SG Spa biz very bad esp after JB reopen

[obscenek2]

Went to a SPA, counter insisted promoting on 88 package but reject her & take on normal 50 massage. ML told me cannot hj on normal massage package need to upgrade to 88.

I tell her nvm, I can go other shop. My standard practice is 50+50. Her face damn black. After the normal standard massaging, when near the end, she start playing with my "little bro" and ask want anot? I tell can I only pay her 50. She say okay.

So after the deed, she say she will need to hand over 38 to counter and herself will kept the 12 for hj. I say that her problem, I already handed 50 to her how she want to use it is her problem.

See. Now ML willing to do HJ for as low as 12. Biz must be very bad for them.
Too many Massage shops liao.

[melltgb11]

If all bros can stay united for this universal rate will be good. IF lah hahaha

[sky_liner2]

So can we just take up the $88 package, and in the room give ML another $12 as tip for HJ?

[morrissey1209]

I think the ML talk cock one lah. Give 38 and keep 12...

[happpy]

i kana one at bugis even more funny, if u take up the normal massage you cannot even take off your shirt.

only if u take up the 88 or what lj offer than you are able to proceed as normal.

i tell u la, there are many options just go elsewhere and try

[KangTuo]

I am actually ok to pay $88 for spa entrance if the facilities have private shower and nice conducive environment. With the $88, the ML should massage and tease building up to the GQ. If pay lowest entrance rate at these spa, the ML will avoid the sensitive area throughout the massage. It spoil the mood, not be aroused to look forward for GQ and mostly will end up mechanical.

The killer to spoil all the fun is the amount the ML quote for GQ these days. Mostly ask $100 for HJ + roaming. It is this reason that I cut down or stop going / exploring new spa and new ML

The total will be high at $188.

Now I go GL if want release or spa/tcm that provide bbbj. Only go spa if really need a good rub

[hybridsystem]

I had 1 encounter before also. Was walking around and venture into a spa, the counter hard sell me $98 package but I said $60 will do. She keep on insisting for 3-4 times, then I told her (directly) its ok... I can walk over to other street to go for $58 package. Then she say ok for $60 package, I told her too late liao. I walk out of the spa.(lucky haven't pass her money)

[taumajid2003]

If all bros can stay united for this universal rate will be good. IF lah hahaha

Yes! I agreed and support this notion.Too bad there are some here who loves to be a carrot head and perhaps to much money to burn.Maybe easy money earn, so when spending it, no need use Big head, small head always overrides.😆😅☺

[lawrene]

I am actually ok to pay $88 for spa entrance if the facilities have private shower and nice conducive environment. With the $88, the ML should massage and tease building up to the GQ. If pay lowest entrance rate at these spa, the ML will avoid the sensitive area throughout the massage. It spoil the mood, not be aroused to look forward for GQ and mostly will end up mechanical.

The killer to spoil all the fun is the amount the ML quote for GQ these days. Mostly ask $100 for HJ + roaming. It is this reason that I cut down or stop going / exploring new spa and new ML

The total will be high at $188.

Now I go GL if want release or spa/tcm that provide bbbj. Only go spa if really need a good rub

No offence. That is the reason why there are many 88 spa now. I don't mind pay 60 for spa with better facility, 88 is too much.

But i do agree that paying 100 for HJ + roam is too much. I did pay 100 before but i can do almost anything except penetration and it is my regular ML.

[Jaycu69]

Ist time hearing HJ @ $50 tips to be shared with boss. That means the boss allows the WL to have additional service not in the menu.

Those collect 150 FJ one time payment that already included the entrance fees to be shared with the boss is understandable.

[Xgenre]

Ist time hearing HJ @ $50 tips to be shared with boss. That means the boss allows the WL to have additional service not in the menu.

To employ 1 ML here, the spa owner needs to employ many Singaporeans. Obviously never really employ them but will need to top up a lot of Singaporeans's CPF accounts to prove that there is 'employment'. These people are normally elderly people who let the Spa owners use their names. These elderly people don't mind as some dumb ass will be topping up their CPF monthly.

But such top ups are a fixed cost to the MP owners so they will collect it back via the $88 fees. I think some spas don't share the $88 fees for like the first 50 customers per month. The hj fees the ML will keep for herself. The ML also cannot under-charge for special services or over-provide special services. If they spoil market, the customers will tell other ML that so and so provide what and what at which price, how come you cannot ah?

I just hope the market will correct itself soon. Too many spas and too many old ladies now. These old ladies can still hide their lack of beauty by wearing masks in the past 2 years. As life increasingly get back to pre-covid days, I hope we can go back to the days where no one wears masks in the spa.

[Jabba]

In the first place how does the boss know u did extras during your massage? The ML is just lying to u.Give 38 and keep 12.Really stupid to believe them

[kombust]

they sharpened their knives during covid and now they have lost their competitive edge after borders reopen. they should either reduce their prices or value add their service.

88+50 for no roam hj is just too wtf. might as well book double time at GL. those thais also can give half assed massage.

[qwerty171]

Straight no for me for any package above $60 an hour, be it add oil, prostrate blah blah blah. I pay $50-60 an hour for the room with the ML. Like most of you here, there’s always another shop nearby who will take the $50 entrance. What I’m willing to pay is the extra $50-$$150 depending on the service I choose.

[Xgenre]

In the first place how does the boss know u did extras during your massage? The ML is just lying to u.Give 38 and keep 12.Really stupid to believe them

Receptionist will walk around to check from the 45th minute mark if you take the lower package. If caught giving hj at lower package rates, the ML may be fined $1000. Some spas give the entire $1000 to the receptionist. So the receptionist has added incentive to catch

[loneyheart]

Keep hearing biz very bad but they still remain n price up ... see who can last :)

[Newluck]

Is a turn off for me when the ml starts showing black face playing piano on your back instead of proper msg or give whatever reasons if we do not take up the 88 package.
I will take up the 88 offer when I go to spa with 88 pkg. but before that I will do my homework to ensure :
1) ml is decent and pretty looking and friendly (ymmv)
2) able to do proper massage
3) high playability - good teasing, hj , roaming and if possible allow zhut zhut
4) spa is clean - room with bathroom, new bed sheets , clean towels and ambiance must be conducive for massage

At least I come out a happy man

In between I still go to value for money 58 shops

[Aceluffy88]

I rather go to GL you than play cat and mouse at all these spa

Btw have a good one to share,

20 H40 gal 5

Ever since JM girls dropped in standard I stopped patronizing GL for some time until I saw a FR on gal 5 from this Viet house.

Many details so let’s skip ahead

Looks: 7/10
Attitude: 10/10
Body: 9/10 Solid body that most will not complain. Soft man made boobs
BBBJ: 10/10
FJ: 10/10
GFE: 9/10 Very friendly and doesn’t show attitude

Definitely going to make her my regular as she ticks all the boxes. Was reluctant to share as I do not like long queue but I’m just paying it forward from someone else’s xp, pls take good care of this good gal

[SaintJo]

I rather go to GL you than play cat and mouse at all these spa

Btw have a good one to share,

20 H40 gal 5

Ever since JM girls dropped in standard I stopped patronizing GL for some time until I saw a FR on gal 5 from this Viet house.

Many details so let’s skip ahead

Looks: 7/10
Attitude: 10/10
Body: 9/10 Solid body that most will not complain. Soft man made boobs
BBBJ: 10/10
FJ: 10/10
GFE: 9/10 Very friendly and doesn’t show attitude

Definitely going to make her my regular as she ticks all the boxes. Was reluctant to share as I do not like long queue but I’m just paying it forward from someone else’s xp, pls take good care of this good gal


she looks abit Chinese right? I had a great time with her .

[LurkerLurks]

lol u really believe them? hear abit can alr. is all about the KC

[Sadly]

I think the all economy is bad, retrenchments in several industries already and more to come as we unfortunately enter into a recession.

[HSB2000]

I am actually ok to pay $88 for spa entrance if the facilities have private shower and nice conducive environment. With the $88, the ML should massage and tease building up to the GQ. If pay lowest entrance rate at these spa, the ML will avoid the sensitive area throughout the massage. It spoil the mood, not be aroused to look forward for GQ and mostly will end up mechanical.

The killer to spoil all the fun is the amount the ML quote for GQ these days. Mostly ask $100 for HJ + roaming. It is this reason that I cut down or stop going / exploring new spa and new ML

The total will be high at $188.

Now I go GL if want release or spa/tcm that provide bbbj. Only go spa if really need a good rub

That's the mistake when you start to feel ok with the stupid $88 package, they know that you are willing to pay or a 🥕, logically they will try to earn more from you...

[Heartlandlover]

lol u really believe them? hear abit can alr. is all about the KC

Hahaha. U r right. Listen and forget can liao. Business not as good as before is true. But not bad until cannot survive. Use to earn 10k a mth. Now is 7500. 25% drop in income but still good money mah. More than fresh grads. Lol.

[CrazyKriss]

I think the all economy is bad, retrenchments in several industries already and more to come as we unfortunately enter into a recession.

I do not agree that the SPA business is impacted. Have some ML's on my Wechat and they all have upgraded to iPhone 14Pro, most of they advertise 1 or 2 slots that they are available during the day, and most of them now ask minimum of $80 and if want roaming then its $100 tips.
Hence i am not sure if this is recession.

[Heartlandlover]

I think the all economy is bad, retrenchments in several industries already and more to come as we unfortunately enter into a recession.

Just sharing my opinion.
The ones affected is only a small portion of the entire sg workforce. So it shld not have such drastic impact for now.

Yes they say biz is bad. Bad as in not as good at the prime time in 2021.

They are not going to drop their price. Maybe the entrance but the service fee will still be the same. Cos ML/FL are business minded. They know the way to run it. Reduce price won't help them in the overall income.

[Heartlandlover]

I think the ML talk cock one lah. Give 38 and keep 12...

I also think ML bullshit. Lol. 装可怜.

[Heartlandlover]

Receptionist will walk around to check from the 45th minute mark if you take the lower package. If caught giving hj at lower package rates, the ML may be fined $1000. Some spas give the entire $1000 to the receptionist. So the receptionist has added incentive to catch

Wahahaha. We always hear this from ML. I really find this regulation funny. $30 more just to allow the ML for HJ in shop. Make it sound legal to do HJ with 88 packages.

[blurblur2032]

I also, last time no choice, LL pay $150 for massage n bj. Now keep asking me why never find her. I say in JB can find cheaper n not rush. Hahaha

[Iceman11]

I do not agree that the SPA business is impacted. Have some ML's on my Wechat and they all have upgraded to iPhone 14Pro, most of they advertise 1 or 2 slots that they are available during the day, and most of them now ask minimum of $80 and if want roaming then its $100 tips.
Hence i am not sure if this is recession.

Well said, I saw similar things in some MLs in my WeChat moment - went to high class dining (apparently with either WK or Roberts as can see man’s arm or leg across the angle of photos sitting on same table), appeared themselves in 5-star hotels dressed nicely, pictures of expensive food they eat, then after that cry again in the moment no money biz bad... hahaha... 鬼才信 👻.

I don’t entertain $88 bullshit and neither would I pay high damage. There are still some good quality ML that accept standard rate with better service. Just need to explore around.

I also faced that $50 - $38 explanation few months ago in amk, after I kept on rejecting and rejecting as the ML appearance really not my cup of tea. Personally I don’t believe it but probably they are under huge competitions with those syt MLs to deliver their targets...

[Iceman11]

I also, last time no choice, LL pay $150 for massage n bj. Now keep asking me why never find her. I say in JB can find cheaper n not rush. Hahaha

Why no choice ? She hold your cock with a knife ? :D

[Todej]

I had 1 encounter before also. Was walking around and venture into a spa, the counter hard sell me $98 package but I said $60 will do. She keep on insisting for 3-4 times, then I told her (directly) its ok... I can walk over to other street to go for $58 package. Then she say ok for $60 package, I told her too late liao. I walk out of the spa.(lucky haven't pass her money)

nice one bro, they always think their rehash formula works on all people:D

[Xgenre]

LL pay $150 for massage n bj. Now keep asking me why never find her.

Actually $150 for massage and BJ is reasonable. I know some of you say $100 can get fj. But BJ can be more shag than FJ. For fj, many girls just lie there like dead fish and let the customers do the hard work. Some guys last 2 to 3 minutes only.

For BJ, it's the girl doing the work. We just enjoy
. 10 -15 minutes of BJ can be quite tiring for the ladies. Somemore $150 includes a 40 minute massage. Not too expensive lah.

[Sadly]

I do not agree that the SPA business is impacted. Have some ML's on my Wechat and they all have upgraded to iPhone 14Pro, most of they advertise 1 or 2 slots that they are available during the day, and most of them now ask minimum of $80 and if want roaming then its $100 tips.
Hence i am not sure if this is recession.

1-2 slot available on Wechat is a marketing gimmick… dont believe!
Most ML have 2 days off a month and spend 12 hours a day on their handphone. No time for hobby/quality time hence all savings go to bags and phones. They need to show they are doing well. It will help them getting even more clients.

[rrr9g]

In the first place how does the boss know u did extras during your massage? The ML is just lying to u.Give 38 and keep 12.Really stupid to believe them

Doubt anyone would believe her.. If really split then the boss if chio shld come in service me first, then the ML finish me off.

50-50 or 70-30 how they share their problem..

[loneyheart]

No matter how bad their biz r they still make much more better then a avg SGman :)

[Sadly]

No matter how bad their biz r they still make much more better then a avg SGman :)

Dont forget that prostitution is the oldest profession in the world and that it always commanded a premium - rightly so given the physical abuse; , emotional stress and shame it comes along with.

[WildC]

Dont forget that prostitution is the oldest profession in the world and that it always commanded a premium - rightly so given the physical abuse; , emotional stress and shame it comes along with.

Bro, Sadly, but 1 ML once told me that she is not a prostitute, despite doing hj, bj and you know what..... I had to control myself for not laughing out loud.

[Sadly]

Bro, Sadly, but 1 ML once told me that she is not a prostitute, despite doing hj, bj and you know what..... I had to control myself for not laughing out loud.

She must have said she went training to become a therapist yeah 😂😂

[KangTuo]

Well said, I saw similar things in some MLs in my WeChat moment - went to high class dining ..

alot eat Hai Di Lao. every week sure have photos of HDL steam boat.

hope they eat HDL will learn HDLY :D

[weeweeman]

Now I feel very sad . My regular ML can't afford her Europe trip . Can only settle for Japan holiday.

And her Audi already 5 years.

I should have tip her more

[Iceman11]

alot eat Hai Di Lao. every week sure have photos of HDL steam boat.

hope they eat HDL will learn HDLY :D

no wonder one ML that I used to regularly visit so good in HDLY, as she told me her favourite place is Hai Di Lao 😂😂😂

[afterburn]

Dont forget that prostitution is the oldest profession in the world and that it always commanded a premium - rightly so given the physical abuse; , emotional stress and shame it comes along with.

Some ML even get uncomfortable when customers give too graphic FRs here :) Worry that they will get branded as a prostitute. You are right that there's shame attached to it. So they rather not have such "advertising".

[Xgenre]

no wonder one ML that I used to regularly visit so good in HDLY, as she told me her favourite place is Hai Di Lao 😂😂😂

Her Chinese name is Lau Yue（刘月）. Her English name is Heidi.

Heidi Lau Yue. :D

[KangTuo]

Her Chinese name is Lau Yue（刘月）. Her English name is Heidi.

Heidi Lau Yue. :D

Lets see which bro start reply "pls share contact" or pm you ask for Heidi Lau Yue contact :D

[Peacekeeping]

Receptionist will walk around to check from the 45th minute mark if you take the lower package. If caught giving hj at lower package rates, the ML may be fined $1000. Some spas give the entire $1000 to the receptionist. So the receptionist has added incentive to catch

I managed to convince my regular to switch mp after her previous mp forced me to take higher package for special. No 88 no special crap. End up I took entry price $60 and tip her another $20 for her good and strong normal massage. I told her it’s a bad idea for her previous mp to add on the 88 package requirement. She said all the masseuse are angry about this new requirement.

[Iceman11]

Lets see which bro start reply "pls share contact" or pm you ask for Heidi Lau Yue contact :D

Good one... 😂😂😂

“Bro pls share contacts”...

[The Old Nite]

let us all stay united and boycott all sg spa permanently... so much cheaper at jb side there... sg parlours just taking us for carrot... all sg parlours prepared to lose business n even closed down permanently...

[lawrene]

Although I don't like the 88 gimmick shop, but I think it is going to stay for a while. Those brothers who are boycotting 88 gimmick shop are minority. The market has gradually accepted the new price especially in the HDB residential areas. Else how can so many of those spa opening and still surviving.
What i do wish to see is the special price come back to pre-covid time.

[SgBoy86]

Although I don't like the 88 gimmick shop, but I think it is going to stay for a while. Those brothers who are boycotting 88 gimmick shop are minority. The market has gradually accepted the new price especially in the HDB residential areas. Else how can so many of those spa opening and still surviving.
What i do wish to see is the special price come back to pre-covid time.

Why are there soo many 88 shops still around?

Because sbf cheongsters are only a fraction of all the cheongsters out there, dont be surprised that there are more ah hai and robert heads than sbf users lol.

I've never taken an 88 package till date, to each his own. Some people feel that it's justified due to the rising cost, some feel that its pure bs.

There are plenty of good playgrounds out there with 50+50, you just need to know where to find them. :)

[Newluck]

Why are there soo many 88 shops still around?

Because sbf cheongsters are only a fraction of all the cheongsters out there, dont be surprised that there are more ah hai and robert heads than sbf users lol.

I've never taken an 88 package till date, to each his own. Some people feel that it's justified due to the rising cost, some feel that its pure bs.

There are plenty of good playgrounds out there with 50+50, you just need to know where to find them. :)


Yes, a lot of locals are not aware of sbf and most will think that 88 is the norm since there are so many out there
Plus the foreigners are supporting these 88 spas just like rental market
There are still a big pool of customers for these 88 spas
That is why more and more 88 are opening up

[SgBoy86]

Yes, a lot of locals are not aware of sbf and most will think that 88 is the norm since there are so many out there
Plus the foreigners are supporting these 88 spas just like rental market
There are still a big pool of customers for these 88 spas
That is why more and more 88 are opening up

Yup, that's why some say knowledge is power. The more you know the wiser you become.

My mindset is still stuck at the health centre days, anything that doesnt fall within the category of 50/80/100 is a no go for me.

When there are ML who hang up to sell, there will definitely be ML who provide value service at a lower cost.

[knilon]

Yup, that's why some say knowledge is power. The more you know the wiser you become.

My mindset is still stuck at the health centre days, anything that doesnt fall within the category of 50/80/100 is a no go for me.

When there are ML who hang up to sell, there will definitely be ML who provide value service at a lower cost.

I really don't mind paying a bit more (say if service is good, 10-20 more) since everything went up due to inflation. The idea I don't like is I gotta pay 38 more to the shop that didn't provide me the hj. Well not like the one at the counter will give me part of the handjob right? Then why should I pay for it? It's pure greed and downright extortion. Till todate I paid 0 times of such 88 bullshit.

[69sex]

With foreigners snapping up shophouses at record prices, the landlord will have to rent their property at record prices. Since most massage shops are in shophouse, therefore prices wont be cheap anymore in order for the massage operator to pay the skyrocket rental prices!

With older shopping malls being enbloc, hence forcing out the massage shops to oblivion or shopping malls banning massage businesses...

So seem pretty bad in Singapore, now borders open we should look elsewhere for better values for our hard earn money.

All thanks to our strong SGD we should sexplore overseas market more often

[Odyssey123]

let us all stay united and boycott all sg spa permanently... so much cheaper at jb side there... sg parlours just taking us for carrot... all sg parlours prepared to lose business n even closed down permanently...

How much is it over in JB bro? Just curious what’s the pricing there like. Haven’t been there to try before.

[obscenek2]

With foreigners snapping up shophouses at record prices, the landlord will have to rent their property at record prices. Since most massage shops are in shophouse, therefore prices wont be cheap anymore in order for the massage operator to pay the skyrocket rental prices!

With older shopping malls being enbloc, hence forcing out the massage shops to oblivion or shopping malls banning massage businesses...

So seem pretty bad in Singapore, now borders open we should look elsewhere for better values for our hard earn money.

All thanks to our strong SGD we should sexplore overseas market more often

I remember before covid-19 period, a lot of cheongster chiong Batam one. Almost every weekend, ferry confirm full. JB or Batam, sure more value for money than SG one.

[KangTuo]

With foreigners snapping up shophouses at record prices, the landlord will have to rent their property at record prices. Since most massage shops are in shophouse, therefore prices wont be cheap anymore in order for the massage operator to pay the skyrocket rental prices!

can still visit shophouses for budget release. It is Geylang shophouses housing fish tank :D

[Mewtwo]

With foreigners snapping up shophouses at record prices, the landlord will have to rent their property at record prices. Since most massage shops are in shophouse, therefore prices wont be cheap anymore in order for the massage operator to pay the skyrocket rental prices!

With older shopping malls being enbloc, hence forcing out the massage shops to oblivion or shopping malls banning massage businesses...

So seem pretty bad in Singapore, now borders open we should look elsewhere for better values for our hard earn money.

All thanks to our strong SGD we should sexplore overseas market more often

Yup, that's right, SGD is strong thus we need to take advantage of overseas market.

[kwaychup]

considering the amount you need to pay for a 1hr session with topups,
the money spent can easily get a 1 hr massage and another 1hr fj with spare change in pocket in JB.

for me i also stopped going to local massages and going to JB every 2 weeks or so. :D

[Odyssey123]

considering the amount you need to pay for a 1hr session with topups,
the money spent can easily get a 1 hr massage and another 1hr fj with spare change in pocket in JB.

for me i also stopped going to local massages and going to JB every 2 weeks or so. :D

Quality of the ML is better over there?

[Jaycu69]

Agreed with some bros that with strong S$, probably can get 1 for 2. Will be heading to JB for my regular FL & new FL for a total price of RM 350 or slightly S$110. Only JB can spend that kind of money. Some more better quality.

[Heartlandlover]

Recently my recent regular ML who only do HJ+roam+zhut told me business bad. Chat abit on wechat for a few weeks liao.

2 weeks ago told her I am trying to look for a fixed sexual partner since nowadays I hated to try out unknown FL. Ask her any ML friend from shop with good attitude to intro $150 per shot. She say dun have.

Then finally I told her got 1 ML in another spa willing to be my weekly regular @$300 per shot. She joking say she will take me at $1000 per shot. The conversation lead to nego rates with her. And it ended. No agreed price. No sound no picture.

1 week later. I ask her if I can go massage without HJ. She ask why? I said need good massage. And told her I wana spend $$$ on FJ with the other ML. Cos $300+++ abit abv my weekly budget so save abit. Suddenly she told me let other ppl end why not let her earn. The rest u guys know. But worth it or not. I say no. Just wana experience once nia. So ........

She willing to take FJ becos business not as good as in the past? Need money to cover her China commitment? I dunno. Maybe.

I guess we might see that more ML might wana open legs. However price is still over priced.

- Fuck ML with spa uniform on in sg. Checked.


Of cos go malaysia can get even better ROI.
Sg many not bad FL at 150 to 200 range. So bros really not worth it. Not value for money.

[69sex]

Recently my recent regular ML who only do HJ+roam+zhut told me business bad. Chat abit on wechat for a few weeks liao.

2 weeks ago told her I am trying to look for a fixed sexual partner since nowadays I hated to try out unknown FL. Ask her any ML friend from shop with good attitude to intro $150 per shot. She say dun have.

Then finally I told her got 1 ML in another spa willing to be my weekly regular @$300 per shot. She joking say she will take me at $1000 per shot. The conversation lead to nego rates with her. And it ended. No agreed price. No sound no picture.

1 week later. I ask her if I can go massage without HJ. She ask why? I said need good massage. And told her I wana spend $$$ on FJ with the other ML. Cos $300+++ abit abv my weekly budget so save abit. Suddenly she told me let other ppl end why not let her earn. The rest u guys know. But worth it or not. I say no. Just wana experience once nia. So ........

She willing to take FJ becos business not as good as in the past? Need money to cover her China commitment? I dunno. Maybe.

I guess we might see that more ML might wana open legs. However price is still over priced.

- Fuck ML with spa uniform on in sg. Checked.


Of cos go malaysia can get even better ROI.
Sg many not bad FL at 150 to 200 range. So bros really not worth it. Not value for money.

It's a sense of victory over mind games, definitely another form of sexperience instead of purely buying sex!

Congrats, maybe u can open more ML legs once u conquer one! :D :D

[peregrene]

let us all stay united and boycott all sg spa permanently... so much cheaper at jb side there... sg parlours just taking us for carrot... all sg parlours prepared to lose business n even closed down permanently...

Totally agree. They had a free reign when the borders were closed. They already made their money!

[Heartlandlover]

Actually no sense of victory. Just an experience. It's also buying sex. Just that it's like a off normal menu thing.
Cos I also know I am not the 1st and last one that can bed her. Just a coincidence that my offer match her needs.

Hotel and Shop very different. Hotel lights bright bright. See very clearly. Lol.
Eh body not nice lah. Not syt. I think 30yrs to 35yrs old. Face not bad.
Got faint mark on tummy. C SECTION.
Small chest. Heavy bottom. Tattoo on back center.

Only things I enjoy is ram doggie cos meaty ass, her slurppy bbj kneel down, she bit her lips, scream during hard sex. Condom FJ. I nvr lick cb even though she try to press my head south. Cos I dunno how clean. And hairy and I dun like. But she like her nips lick and squeeze. Got studs of armpit hair and leg hair. Lol. Unlike Pro FL, CB mostly short trim or clean shaven.

[kwaychup]

Quality of the ML is better over there?

quantity and quality if u ask me :D

[SadLoser]

Agreed with some bros that with strong S$, probably can get 1 for 2. Will be heading to JB for my regular FL & new FL for a total price of RM 350 or slightly S$110. Only JB can spend that kind of money. Some more better quality.

Agreed. Found a trusted agent who provided local M'sian chi fls. Tried a couple of the gals & the prices ranges btw RM400-500. When I converted back, it's only $150. Super worth it. Gona save all my bullets & fulfill my dreams of bonking M'sian syts.

Here in SG, the local FLs are demanding for $1K per shot now. Ridiculous & crazy price.

[loneyheart]

Actually no sense of victory. Just an experience. It's also buying sex. Just that it's like a off normal menu thing.
Cos I also know I am not the 1st and last one that can bed her. Just a coincidence that my offer match her needs.

Hotel and Shop very different. Hotel lights bright bright. See very clearly. Lol.
Eh body not nice lah. Not syt. I think 30yrs to 35yrs old. Face not bad.
Got faint mark on tummy. C SECTION.
Small chest. Heavy bottom. Tattoo on back center.

Only things I enjoy is ram doggie cos meaty ass, her slurppy bbj kneel down, she bit her lips, scream during hard sex. Condom FJ. I nvr lick cb even though she try to press my head south. Cos I dunno how clean. And hairy and I dun like. But she like her nips lick and squeeze. Got studs of armpit hair and leg hair. Lol. Unlike Pro FL, CB mostly short trim or clean shaven.

Wow this type still call for 300 arrr salute u bro for yr deep pocket :)

[Kenkenkenchan]

Lets see which bro start reply "pls share contact" or pm you ask for Heidi Lau Yue contact :D

Pm contact please thanks

[darkness4311]

Rental kept on rising how business keep afloat

[Heartlandlover]

Wow this type still call for 300 arrr salute u bro for yr deep pocket :)

Nothing to be proud of. Cos not worth it.
I won't do it again. Money not well spent.
Just to clear a "to do item" in my checking list.
Sometime it just a one time off experience.
Actually nothing fantastic.

I just got a list of things to do before I get really old and cannot fuck anymore. Hahahaha.

[Usagi88]

Agreed. Found a trusted agent who provided local M'sian chi fls. Tried a couple of the gals & the prices ranges btw RM400-500. When I converted back, it's only $150. Super worth it. Gona save all my bullets & fulfill my dreams of bonking M'sian syts.

Here in SG, the local FLs are demanding for $1K per shot now. Ridiculous & crazy price.

Wow bro mind to share? Yet to fulfil this in my list

[carrotcake45]

mind to share pls, thank you!

[Odyssey123]

Agreed. Found a trusted agent who provided local M'sian chi fls. Tried a couple of the gals & the prices ranges btw RM400-500. When I converted back, it's only $150. Super worth it. Gona save all my bullets & fulfill my dreams of bonking M'sian syts.

Here in SG, the local FLs are demanding for $1K per shot now. Ridiculous & crazy price. i see a lot in the FL dome, ranging $300 onwards.

[LurkerLurks]

I do not agree that the SPA business is impacted. Have some ML's on my Wechat and they all have upgraded to iPhone 14Pro, most of they advertise 1 or 2 slots that they are available during the day, and most of them now ask minimum of $80 and if want roaming then its $100 tips.
Hence i am not sure if this is recession.

what if , the 14pro is gifted one, dont be surprised ah, their kc lvl v high some ppl willing to bao them lol

[paulcum2sooon]

I think it's a mix bag.

MLs and FLs charging exorbitant rates are facing high cost of living here. And they may not have high volume to begin with.

There are also those very few who can demand the high fees but only want low volume customers for whatever reason.

There are those who are maintaining pre covid rates... They are probably playing a different game, hoping to keep lower rates to pull in customers and also ensure existing customers don't leave.

Just my view.

[fs1036le]

Agreed. Found a trusted agent who provided local M'sian chi fls. Tried a couple of the gals & the prices ranges btw RM400-500. When I converted back, it's only $150. Super worth it. Gona save all my bullets & fulfill my dreams of bonking M'sian syts.

Here in SG, the local FLs are demanding for $1K per shot now. Ridiculous & crazy price.

Bro may share the agent contact :) thanks in advance

[Shooter99]

I think many bros know that west side now all must take 88 to hv GQ.

One ML share wiv me that the boss told her if all shop charge 88, customer will be lan lan pay 88 if wan GQ...
See even spa owner start to unite together liao.

I told her, actually ML is the one at the losing end. We can always find other spa with reasonable price. At the end ML less customer also.

So biz bad not really due to JB reopen..their sales strategy killing themselves.

[soonbeng]

Or we can go to licensed Geylang houses since they are re-opening. All spa girls should really up their game. I feel I shouldn't RTM spa girls who gave me bad service. They are too many for me to list here. Most of them are from PRC.

[Heartlandlover]

what if , the 14pro is gifted one, dont be surprised ah, their kc lvl v high some ppl willing to bao them lol

Hahaha. Bingo u r right. Mostly those quite good looking ML/FL is gifted one. These girls got many sponsors one lah. Some guys just give hoping to get something in return but end up in disappointment. Talk terms and condition 1st before giving.

[obscenek2]

I think it's a mix bag.

MLs and FLs charging exorbitant rates are facing high cost of living here. And they may not have high volume to begin with.

There are also those very few who can demand the high fees but only want low volume customers for whatever reason.

There are those who are maintaining pre covid rates... They are probably playing a different game, hoping to keep lower rates to pull in customers and also ensure existing customers don't leave.

Just my view.

Just let the market force decide. If SG a lot of ah hai and willing to spend this kind of exorbitant pricing, massage palors and Spa will surely blossom around. Ironically this is what we are seeing now, every other neighbourhood sure have at least 5 or more such shops.

If nobody willing to spend on them and they can't maintain their upkeep, surely one by one they will close shop.

[Heartlandlover]

Just let the market force decide. If SG a lot of ah hai and willing to spend this kind of exorbitant pricing, massage palors and Spa will surely blossom around. Ironically this is what we are seeing now, every other neighbourhood sure have at least 5 or more such shops.

If nobody willing to spend on them and they can't maintain their upkeep, surely one by one they will close shop.

Eh. Really got ppl pay such pricing leh. I went to a spa in hougang just 3 days ago. The 2 bros (they know each other) infront of me easily agreed to $88 for an hours. Think only a small grp of ppl more dollar and sense cautious.

[peksync]

Maybe the strategy is indeed to price those still bent on paying 50/55 out of the market. $$$ talks so if the higher pricing isn't viable the market will somehow find some equilibrium.

That said I do think many ppl are indeed rich and willing to pay 88++

Just saw a JW spa indicating that their minimum price is 60 now lol.

[afterburn]

Just saw a JW spa indicating that their minimum price is 60 now lol.

Pay the ML $40 tips and say the remaining $10 now taken over by her boss :D

[SgBoy86]

I think many bros know that west side now all must take 88 to hv GQ.

One ML share wiv me that the boss told her if all shop charge 88, customer will be lan lan pay 88 if wan GQ...
See even spa owner start to unite together liao.


I told her, actually ML is the one at the losing end. We can always find other spa with reasonable price. At the end ML less customer also.

So biz bad not really due to JB reopen..their sales strategy killing themselves.

Im not sure if we're living in the same west or you only go to places that are being recommended here or on social media platforms.

But from the back of my head I can name 3 places where they do not offer 88 bs and all have GQ with one blue note, can zhut zhut touch below somemore.

1 nearest to clementi mrt while the other 2 is at Jurong East area. That's all I can say, gonna protect the playgrounds.

Cheers :)

[tamatiger]

Agreed. Found a trusted agent who provided local M'sian chi fls. Tried a couple of the gals & the prices ranges btw RM400-500. When I converted back, it's only $150. Super worth it. Gona save all my bullets & fulfill my dreams of bonking M'sian syts.

Here in SG, the local FLs are demanding for $1K per shot now. Ridiculous & crazy price.

hi bro, can share. thanks in advance

[obscenek2]

Surprise surprise.

Now biz so bad until ML willing to take just 3 red notes for "extra"

[sky_liner2]

Surprise surprise.

Now biz so bad until ML willing to take just 3 red notes for "extra"

Sure bo bro, still able to find such good deed? Please share......

[Erickh]

Went JB 2 weeks back, they offer 199RM Massage + HJ. :D

[Happyboy888]

Went JB 2 weeks back, they offer 199RM Massage + HJ. :D

Can intro pls

[Wee0502]

Agreed. Found a trusted agent who provided local M'sian chi fls. Tried a couple of the gals & the prices ranges btw RM400-500. When I converted back, it's only $150. Super worth it. Gona save all my bullets & fulfill my dreams of bonking M'sian syts.

Here in SG, the local FLs are demanding for $1K per shot now. Ridiculous & crazy price.

Can share contact? Thanks.

[edwardgreene]

I've never been to JB but have heard a mix bag of stories. Would love to explore but the news on traffic jams at the border crossing and targeted crime, car jacking etc... huge deterrent for me.

[unkl]

Went JB 2 weeks back, they offer 199RM Massage + HJ. :D

bro share ctc pls, jb usually full package one. those places massage piano and if want hj is really robot one.

[Sixth]

Visited one super syt viet fl in JB about a month back. 200rm only. Unfortunately the feel was very commercial.

[faceboo]

Visited one super syt viet fl in JB about a month back. 200rm only. Unfortunately the feel was very commercial.

care to share ctc via pm? yes jb fls all very commercial but very worth it. unlike in sg where i prefer to build up gfe because of the high price spent, i prefer go jb to give these commercial fls a hard rough fuck. always treated them as sex slaves and fuck till they begging me for mercy haha :D