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accurate FR
07-10-2022, 08:46 AM
I posted a jurong east spa, got deleted. Another person posted same place after me, but thread still there, why ? Because he paid advertising? I not even related to that spa, I just want to share good girls

I'm the 1st to post on The bencoolen masseuses, also deleted

Because I never pay advertising to owner of forum? But I don't even get to earn from my FR from the spas leh.

IamGood
07-10-2022, 08:50 AM
But I don't even get to earn from my FR from the spas leh.

That's the problem

deanscott
07-10-2022, 11:42 AM
Well, if a certain spa is paying for advertising and you post information about the same spa using a different post, then why would the advertiser keep paying the forum money?


I'm the 1st to post on The bencoolen masseuses, also deleted
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PS: do PM me info about the bencoolen ones, please!

raigoss
07-10-2022, 12:56 PM
Not sure why but my thread got deleted too . Seem like advertising or promoting other good spa is not allowed here . Do pm me regarding the bugis massage that im reccomanding ! ;)

Jabba
07-10-2022, 12:58 PM
It depends how u word it. This website wants to collect advertising fees as they do not want people to promote their services on their portal

obscenek2
07-10-2022, 01:09 PM
Ya lor. My lup sup TCM thread also tio deleted

virusscan
07-10-2022, 01:25 PM
Ya i also recently notice alot new threads got deleted suddenly. Not sure why is the moderator doing this. I thought having someone open up new thread is a good way to maintain the lively vibe in a forum. Seems like all remaining thread mostly are paid to advertise this might be the reason the moderators are doing this.

raigoss
07-10-2022, 01:26 PM
It depends how u word it. This website wants to collect advertising fees as they do not want people to promote their services on their portal

I think mentioning that im a regular of the famous bugis spa trigger whoever is unhappy about it . Hahahahah but oh well, i never even mention where this place im reccomanding is at . x.x

beginat63
07-10-2022, 01:39 PM
to delete as the thread reach 2 pages & good reason given for a biz model

beginat63
07-10-2022, 02:01 PM
to delete as the thread reach 2 pages & good reason given for a biz model

Smallheadrules
07-10-2022, 05:19 PM
SBF is no longer like previous (many years ago). Many ppl are posting fake FR to chop carrot. The moment u post something that is genuine but u didn't pay, and it sound like advertising, it will he deleted in no time.

Look at those wonderful FR thread, do u really think is such good?

Don't worry, I'm sure this thread will he deleted soon as well

loneyheart
07-10-2022, 05:27 PM
I think u too openly stated the shop unit number wo paying to advertise :)

cassano10
07-10-2022, 08:29 PM
Its a money driven world. What started out as sharing is caring motto cant fight the reality that if you do not change for the better=advertising money:D the forum will not last till today as u need money to maintain it.

afterburn
07-10-2022, 09:00 PM
Sometimes it's the spa boss that ask for the info to be taken down to avoid unwanted attention. When business good enough, why invite trouble?

accurate FR
07-10-2022, 10:53 PM
Sometimes it's the spa boss that ask for the info to be taken down to avoid unwanted attention. When business good enough, why invite trouble?

This could be a more valid reason. The previous reasons mentioned, doubt so, because, the staff of the forum pm me, told me that my thread never gave detailed FR, so he/she deleted mine. ok, next time I will give more detailed FR. If advertising fees are the reasons, the forum will pm me and ask me pay right? what for he deleted my thread, without getting anything in return? Of course i won't pay, i am not a partner of the spa.

accurate FR
07-10-2022, 10:56 PM
' You post is not accurate and not detailed. We delete rubbish to save bandwidth'

He pm me above. Rude ah, said my thread is rubbish

But he said inaccurate, is not true. The ratings I gave for the girls and their heights, anyone who go down to check out, will agree is accurate

Chrisfuryz
07-10-2022, 11:09 PM
Ya lor. My lup sup TCM thread also tio deleted

Your maybe too powerful liao haha:D

Penguin23
08-10-2022, 02:15 PM
Usually Forum mods or Boss Sam will not entertain such queries from free (Samster) accounts.

You are all participating in this forum as free accounts - so the forum mods/bosses do not owe you any obligation to be "fair", or to to provide any minimum standards of service. If they start giving answers, then it opens the floodgates to having idiots opening new free accounts just to ask frivolous questions.

Please be mindful of this simple fact - you can't expect to go around demanding answers and fairness when all you have done in the last 16 years is to lurk and post once in a while......all for free.

This website is first and foremost a business, and therefore it is only proper that they accord a higher status, plus extra privileges to those who understand this simple fact, and choose to upgrade their accounts accordingly. That is what Premium/Advertiser/Donor/Big Donor accounts do.

If you want to engage in this type of "customer feedback" conversation and actually expect an answer - I would suggest you upgrade to at least a Premium Account (I did more - I paid a one-time donation for lifetime Donor status).

From what I understand, Premium Accounts can post new threads about new places without fear of being deleted, and even if you delete, you can ask the mods/Boss Sam about it and you will get an answer. In some instances, mod deletions can be reversed, if you bring this to boss Sam's attention. Bear in mind that mods are human too and they do make mistakes.

I hope you all learnt something today and learn to scale your expectations of this forum, according to what you choose to contribute to the business. FRs and all that are undoubtedly valuable, but do not think for a second that this means you have can override the interests of paying members.

Inconvenient truths, huh.

accurate FR
08-10-2022, 09:08 PM
Usually Forum mods or Boss Sam will not entertain such queries from free (Samster) accounts.

You are all participating in this forum as free accounts - so the forum mods/bosses do not owe you any obligation to be "fair", or to to provide any minimum standards of service. If they start giving answers, then it opens the floodgates to having idiots opening new free accounts just to ask frivolous questions.

Please be mindful of this simple fact - you can't expect to go around demanding answers and fairness when all you have done in the last 16 years is to lurk and post once in a while......all for free.

This website is first and foremost a business, and therefore it is only proper that they accord a higher status, plus extra privileges to those who understand this simple fact, and choose to upgrade their accounts accordingly. That is what Premium/Advertiser/Donor/Big Donor accounts do.

If you want to engage in this type of "customer feedback" conversation and actually expect an answer - I would suggest you upgrade to at least a Premium Account (I did more - I paid a one-time donation for lifetime Donor status).

From what I understand, Premium Accounts can post new threads about new places without fear of being deleted, and even if you delete, you can ask the mods/Boss Sam about it and you will get an answer. In some instances, mod deletions can be reversed, if you bring this to boss Sam's attention. Bear in mind that mods are human too and they do make mistakes.

I hope you all learnt something today and learn to scale your expectations of this forum, according to what you choose to contribute to the business. FRs and all that are undoubtedly valuable, but do not think for a second that this means you have can override the interests of paying members.

Inconvenient truths, huh.

Good points

betaparticle
09-10-2022, 12:03 AM
Ya i also recently notice alot new threads got deleted suddenly. Not sure why is the moderator doing this. I thought having someone open up new thread is a good way to maintain the lively vibe in a forum. Seems like all remaining thread mostly are paid to advertise this might be the reason the moderators are doing this.

Yeah don’t feel much vibes anymore

RWBYSanctum98
09-10-2022, 12:34 AM
I posted a jurong east spa, got deleted. Another person posted same place after me, but thread still there, why ? Because he paid advertising? I not even related to that spa, I just want to share good girls

I'm the 1st to post on The bencoolen masseuses, also deleted

Because I never pay advertising to owner of forum? But I don't even get to earn from my FR from the spas leh.

Bruh I saw your Bencoolen post also and even commented before it got deleted :( Reckon you could PM me the details about it though?

sithu209
09-10-2022, 01:56 AM
:rolleyes: :p

nkyc
09-10-2022, 05:51 AM
Maybe mod scared seen as too free and need to show sam boss he/she got work and on the ball deleting...

superstiffy
09-10-2022, 09:52 AM
Usually Forum mods or Boss Sam will not entertain such queries from free (Samster) accounts.

You are all participating in this forum as free accounts - so the forum mods/bosses do not owe you any obligation to be "fair", or to to provide any minimum standards of service. If they start giving answers, then it opens the floodgates to having idiots opening new free accounts just to ask frivolous questions.

Please be mindful of this simple fact - you can't expect to go around demanding answers and fairness when all you have done in the last 16 years is to lurk and post once in a while......all for free.

This website is first and foremost a business, and therefore it is only proper that they accord a higher status, plus extra privileges to those who understand this simple fact, and choose to upgrade their accounts accordingly. That is what Premium/Advertiser/Donor/Big Donor accounts do.

If you want to engage in this type of "customer feedback" conversation and actually expect an answer - I would suggest you upgrade to at least a Premium Account (I did more - I paid a one-time donation for lifetime Donor status).

From what I understand, Premium Accounts can post new threads about new places without fear of being deleted, and even if you delete, you can ask the mods/Boss Sam about it and you will get an answer. In some instances, mod deletions can be reversed, if you bring this to boss Sam's attention. Bear in mind that mods are human too and they do make mistakes.

I hope you all learnt something today and learn to scale your expectations of this forum, according to what you choose to contribute to the business. FRs and all that are undoubtedly valuable, but do not think for a second that this means you have can override the interests of paying members.

Inconvenient truths, huh.

Brother... u leave out 1 very important thing....

Paying members is only very very small part of traffic... the thousands and thousand of pple that come here everyday dun pay...

because of these thousands and thousand of the people... then got people want to advertise.. then they can collect money... if the website got nobody come then who want to advertise? this is basic of website... no traffic no money.. more traffic more money...

when sbf just start... no such thing like ads because not many traffic.. after many years got traffic liao then they start the ads..

yes we are the cheapo people that dun pay but we are also important... we dun contribute money but we give them numbers so they can sell the space to advertisers.. without us coming here they can also close shop... but sbf is theirs la... they happy then ok.. i just passerby nia.. :D

Penguin23
10-10-2022, 01:36 AM
Brother... u leave out 1 very important thing....

Paying members is only very very small part of traffic... the thousands and thousand of pple that come here everyday dun pay...

because of these thousands and thousand of the people... then got people want to advertise.. then they can collect money... if the website got nobody come then who want to advertise? this is basic of website... no traffic no money.. more traffic more money...

when sbf just start... no such thing like ads because not many traffic.. after many years got traffic liao then they start the ads..

yes we are the cheapo people that dun pay but we are also important... we dun contribute money but we give them numbers so they can sell the space to advertisers.. without us coming here they can also close shop... but sbf is theirs la... they happy then ok.. i just passerby nia.. :D

And I agree with everything you say.

I think we are talking about 2 different things. I am NOT saying that free accounts aren't important

I am saying, that SBF chose a business model where they want to have paying members vs non-paying members. This was true since Delphi forum days, if I remember correctly. This explicit choice, drives the necessity for differentiated services - if a free account can expect the same level of service as paid account holders, then it becomes a disincentive for those who already paid and they will simply stop paying

So it becomes a simple business necessity, that some level of service are accorded only to paying members. This started out with simple things like having a higher Power, 200 points when you become a Premium member. Also, immunity to zapping (which I do not care much about but I know many free cheapo Samsters who seem to care a shitload about points), and stuff like double power for Premium Accounts, triple power for Donors. The last one is quite useful - I do appreciate having enough power to zap someone to negative, or at least remove a massive chunk of his points and see him go back to points exchange forums begging for more, lol.

TS started this thread complaining about the lack of response from mods/admin for thread deletions. I simply responded by saying that, it is understandable that Advertisers and Paying members get accorded a higher level of service than random free accounts, so if TS and others want this level of service then please be prepared to pay for it.

This is a different point, from saying that free accounts aren't important. They form the majority of the forum's ecosystem, that is sure. However, any business owner of a sex forum like SBF would surely want more (and will surely encourage) members to covert into Paying accounts instead of mere anonymous nicks who treat their accounts like throwaway identity masks that can be discarded at a moment's notice.

In case you have not noticed - it is very very seldom that a paying account (Premium/Donor/Big Donor) starts spewing out rubbish, and this is driven by sheer necessity - as paying accounts we do not have the luxury of being a fucking idiot, attract zaps and simply discard and use a new account after a little while. Our payment is tied to one nick only, and it stays with us so we treat our postings a lot more seriously than anonymous free Samsters.