What's the correct thing to do if we do not like the FL?

[master bate]

Dear everyone.. I have been in this forum for quite sometime now.. and I have tried many FLs under different brothers and sisters...

This question has been on my mind for quite sometime now.. but I cannot find any answer in the forum.. so brothers out there.. can help??

Scenario:
Go up to hotel room.. knock knock... the door open sllightly.. can't see the gal.. peep inside.. then WA LAO!!! Really cannot make it.. not pretty at all.. very different from the pics!!:eek:

What can we do?
Pay the gal and run away?
Don't pay the gal and run away?
Pay half and run away?
Carry on... (this is what I do.. don't dare to run away or don't pay.. but I suffer la.. sometime didi can't even rear its head up.... sigh)

So brothers and OKTs.. can help to answer this question??
I'm sure some brothers out there also have the same experience....

Cheers!

[Bonniesan]

Bro, I think I've answer this before. Choose the gal by photo provided. ask for availability according to your timing. Most importantly, check for the accuracy of the photo vs the real self. And emphasis on your preference, i.e. must not be tanned skin, must be cup 34B and above. If you make it a point, think no one will push someone against your preference to you. As for me, I also want to recommend or intro someone closest to customer's preference. A happy customer mean satisfaction in my job.

Oh! And 1 thing, if you don't know who to go for and ask the OKT to intro, its his choice for you, don't blame anyone if its not to your liking......

[Nuglut]

Please don't "run away". It is am immature way to handle the situation.

I understand the "alamak" reaction you may face. I have also been to rooms where the gal's face / body / attitude are materially different than described as the pictures provided may be months old. In this instance, if you do not wish to proceed further, SMS the OKT, let them know, politely pay the girl $20 for the inconvenience caused, and gracefully exit.

Make the decision in the first two minutes so you don't waste the OKT's or the girls time. Occassionally you'll get an OKT who wants to be an ass about it, but 90% of the time OKT's understand. The girls are also understanding, and you should be a gentleman with them at all times. If declining, say something to the effect of "you're a very pretty lady, but just not what I was looking for today".

Be honest, be upfront, and be polite and you will have stay in OKT's "good books" despite the occasional lobang that doesn't work out.

Obviously, if you are looking for "perfection" and this becomes a frequent occurence, you will quickly become "black faced" in most OKT books. The OKT scene here is a lot tighter than you may think.

Best.

[Midnightiger]

Bro, I think I've answer this before. Choose the gal by photo provided. ask for availability according to your timing. Most importantly, check for the accuracy of the photo vs the real self. And emphasis on your preference, i.e. must not be tanned skin, must be cup 34B and above. If you make it a point, think no one will push someone against your preference to you. As for me, I also want to recommend or intro someone closest to customer's preference. A happy customer mean satisfaction in my job.

Oh! And 1 thing, if you don't know who to go for and ask the OKT to intro, its his choice for you, don't blame anyone if its not to your liking......

Sis Bonnie San,

Sorry, I think this is not what he's asking.

TS is asking that despite all that, if he goes to the room, and the FL is not what he's looking for, what options does he has?

Normally, the only reason I can find whereby a customer decides that he doesn't want the FL is when they FL isn't as pretty as the picture provided both in terms of face and body.

I've face it before too. Whereby the studio pics shows an acceptable standard but in reality, the FL is far from it. Yes FAR from it. There are some pics which showed very sexy, well proportioned FL but in the room it's a different case. FLs have also told me before that the studio pics have been "edited" with their face on someone else body. And I think this is why fellow bros here have been crying for live pics.

To answer TS's question, every OKT may have different policy. Some may just say it's OK. Some may want you to compensate the FL with some money(although I don't see why), some may want to you continue, or some may change any FL for you, whatever.

As for amount to compensate (although I don't see why), how much is another matter. Why $20? Why not $10? or $5?

I think it's best to clear with the respective OKT first. What are the options if you decide you don't want to carry on when you have seen the FL?

And whatever the options given, unless the OKT says it's ok and no compensation is required, I feel it is fair for the affected bro to put out an FR on his encounter and what transpired.

So if an OKT "tricked" me with fake or edited pics, and demands compensation if I decide not to carry on, I'll then pay and write a truthful FR on the incident, stating my reasons for backing out like "looks 30 whereas advertised as 22, sagged body whereas pics showed sexy, and so on and so forth".

My 2 cents worth.
Tiger

[master bate]

Thanks for answering the question...
Sister and brother!
BTW... sis Bonnie.. you are always giving the best gal.. Your recommendation to me so far has been good!!

I will not run away... cos I also have damn good svc from not so good looking FL... I agree la.. Gems are in the eyes of the beholder.. or strictly speaking.. is to be discovered.. under the not so nice surface.. may hide a gem.. to be polished and enjoyed!!

Cheers!!

[Bonniesan]

Please don't "run away". It is am immature way to handle the situation.

if you do not wish to proceed further, SMS the OKT, let them know, politely pay the girl $20 for the inconvenience caused, and gracefully exit.

Make the decision in the first two minutes so you don't waste the OKT's or the girls time.

Be honest, be upfront, and be polite and you will have stay in OKT's "good books" despite the occasional lobang that doesn't work out.

Obviously, if you are looking for "perfection" and this becomes a frequent occurence, you will quickly become "black faced" in most OKT books. The OKT scene here is a lot tighter than you may think.

Best.

Yes, don't need to run away.

Just tell the OKT you don't like, don't even pay a cent if the recommendation is from OKT, but if you choose yourself, better tell the OKT what happen, i.e. great difference from photo/tattoos.

I know my gals, if its so far from the photo, I would not even argue, but if no one complains and you're the only one, it portraits to me you are difficult.

Don't have to get into good book of anyone, a good customer is judge by the gal. Get into the good book of gal, then only good things will happen.

No gal is perfect.

Sis Bonnie San,

Sorry, I think this is not what he's asking.


Tiger

Got it, bro. I'm trying to tell out what to do to prevent.

[oceano]

I don't know about others... But is it I'm suay?

those at opposite mustafa, I always see photos nice, when I go, I saw another side of girl. Photo accuracy less than 60%. tan become fair on photo, fat become thin on photo. Had given up. Even live pictures can be editted. But I have not much to complain. In the end, those okt whose accuracy is low, they lose my trust only

[No[Lan]]

Just to chip in my experience of FLs.

Skin wise Thais are almost all tanned, fair Thais are the exception. This seems to be true in the FL scene, I read it has something to do which part of Thailand the girls come from. So when you see studio pics, always imagine them to be more tanned than the pictures. Some of us cannot accept Malay tanned looks, then i suggest that you go to GL to try out Chinese FL. What You see is What You get.

The other thing is their age, in the photos, it was when they were younger. Most of them look just 20, real person maybe add a few years. I suspect some OKT lied about their age, or forget to update a new age to the photos. Regardless, read the FRs to guage their looks, advertise as SYT because of young age, but looks could be mature.

I do believe you get what you pay for, there is a difference of like $50 to try better stock. Photos may look same, but price can tell the story.:)

[Midnightiger]

;3004918']Just to chip in my experience of FLs.

Skin wise Thais are almost all tanned, fair Thais are the exception. This seems to be true in the FL scene, I read it has something to do which part of Thailand the girls come from. So when you see studio pics, always imagine them to be more tanned than the pictures. Some of us cannot accept Malay tanned looks, then i suggest that you go to GL to try out Chinese FL. What You see is What You get.

The other thing is their age, in the photos, it was when they were younger. Most of them look just 20, real person maybe add a few years. I suspect some OKT lied about their age, or forget to update a new age to the photos. Regardless, read the FRs to guage their looks, advertise as SYT because of young age, but looks could be mature.

I do believe you get what you pay for, there is a difference of like $50 to try better stock. Photos may look same, but price can tell the story.:)
Maybe the profiles of the FLS can state which part of Thailand the Girls come from. But always remember, there are fair girls in South Thailand too.

As pictures taken, they are always almost recently taken. It's the studio that makes them look younger than some actually are. Anyway, if we already know that, then book the girls with a pinch of salt as far as age is concerned.

I normally don't care how old the FL is. To me it doesn't matter if the FL is 28 but profile state 23. As if I see the real package and like it, I go for it. So if the FL is really old looking, then I will probably call the OKT and give a miss.

Regards
Tiger

[Horsepower]

If I go to the FL hotel/place or fetch the FL, I will tell the FL sorry, not suitable. Then I go off.

If I book the hotel and when the FL show up CMI, I will either close 2 eyes and get it over and done with, or pay FL $20 to take cab home. Then I will take pcc, take a nap and then eat instant noodle and drink milo (only applicable for H81)....:p

[kronthos]

I'd agree. It's not nice to run away. I would politely tell the girl that this isn't what I have expected and wish her all the best and then go away - after informing the guy who sent me there.

Most of the times, the ladies respect that, of course I've had some bad faces - but it's after all my money ... and d***.

[kronthos]

And I must say, this does not happen often. With me atleast :-)

[XiaoHei]

i kana twice before,i just pay them $20 for cab fare....dun have to run away lah :p

[xtremsproz]

Also happen to me before. But just go in hug and bonk her and thinking u bonking another chio FL that u have bonk before.

But no tips given at the end of the day. :p

But got a few time, i encounter that the gal look better than what is in the pic. So in this case, does we thanks the OKT?:confused:

For my case, i never thanks the okt b4, think next time i should SMS $100000 to them for bringing in a chio chick. :cool:

[Link]

Pay 20 and leave lor... unless you so kiam siap dun even want to spare the 20 :p

But some cases are really bad... hair color/length, face and boobs all diff from pic! This case maybe I don't even want to give a cent cos I get disappointed.... it's not an issue of the money.
=> It's the disappointment~~!

So I think live pics really prove somewhat the "sincerity" of the OKT. Some juz put 10% similarity studio pics... I guess they are not really banking on returning customers.

[Link]

Also don't worry about those kind of studio-pic-cheat-you OKT blacklist you... you don't even want to go back to them.

Worst case... they come here use their clone zap you till -ve lor.

[Kikollo]

;3004918'

I do believe you get what you pay for, there is a difference of like $50 to try better stock. Photos may look same, but price can tell the story.:)

sadly I just bonked a $160 which looks like any normal one in the GL fish tank or maybe even nicer than the one I bonked :o

[master bate]

If I book the hotel and when the FL show up CMI, I will either close 2 eyes and get it over and done with, or pay FL $20 to take cab home. Then I will take pcc, take a nap and then eat instant noodle and drink milo (only applicable for H81)....:p


I reeally like what brother horsepower has just said... HAHAHAHA...
Thanks for all these advice.. I think although I am not new to this FL scene.. I don't have the heart to turn the gals down.. cos I also know that they are here to work and get some money.. I can only blame it on my 'eye light' (yan guang in chinese)...

I hope this thread will help everyone out there..
I am really happy that brothers out there can share these things on this forum..

Cheers!:D

[u_kaypoh_u]

Sis Bonnie San,

Sorry, I think this is not what he's asking.

TS is asking that despite all that, if he goes to the room, and the FL is not what he's looking for, what options does he has?

Normally, the only reason I can find whereby a customer decides that he doesn't want the FL is when they FL isn't as pretty as the picture provided both in terms of face and body.

I've face it before too. Whereby the studio pics shows an acceptable standard but in reality, the FL is far from it. Yes FAR from it. There are some pics which showed very sexy, well proportioned FL but in the room it's a different case. FLs have also told me before that the studio pics have been "edited" with their face on someone else body. And I think this is why fellow bros here have been crying for live pics.

To answer TS's question, every OKT may have different policy. Some may just say it's OK. Some may want you to compensate the FL with some money(although I don't see why), some may want to you continue, or some may change any FL for you, whatever.

As for amount to compensate (although I don't see why), how much is another matter. Why $20? Why not $10? or $5?

I think it's best to clear with the respective OKT first. What are the options if you decide you don't want to carry on when you have seen the FL?

And whatever the options given, unless the OKT says it's ok and no compensation is required, I feel it is fair for the affected bro to put out an FR on his encounter and what transpired.

So if an OKT "tricked" me with fake or edited pics, and demands compensation if I decide not to carry on, I'll then pay and write a truthful FR on the incident, stating my reasons for backing out like "looks 30 whereas advertised as 22, sagged body whereas pics showed sexy, and so on and so forth".

My 2 cents worth.
Tiger

Yeah, TIGER, I agree with you. OKT always put up fake studio picture to trick the customer into booking their girls.



Bro, I think I've answer this before. Most importantly, check for the accuracy of the photo vs the real self. And emphasis on your preference, i.e. must not be tanned skin, must be cup 34B and above.

Oh! And 1 thing, if you don't know who to go for and ask the OKT to intro, its his choice for you, don't blame anyone if its not to your liking......


Why make until so difficult, just put up their LIVE PICTURE, as easy as ABC, guaranteed no dispute from the customer, why put up those studio pic again & again for what ?

Either your girls' look cannot make it that's why OKT dare not put up their LIVE PICTURE or their intention is to trick customer to book those not so beautiful girls, either one.

[firefox79]

Thanks for all buddies to have share their opinions and experiences. I used to be the one who will close my eyes and get over it asap then pay and go type.

At least nw i knw wat to do.

But I got a question here. It happened quite a few times le, but I also bobian abt this. Hope all bros and sis can help giving sme advise.

From the frs here, the FLs seemed very good, giving GFE, etc. But, smetimes, those attitude of the FLs not really that good. Like sme bros mentioned earlier, even those in GL is better. Then how? Complain to OKT? Get refund??

[Assassin]

Frm my own experience, i will continue to have the session even if i am disappointed with the FL's look coz i am the one who chose her so can only blame myself for it. Nowadays, i try not to have too much expectation before the bonking session esp for a Thai FL who looks great on photo. But i do encounter a few Thai FLs who looks so much greater than the pics.

Another experience was whereby after a bonking session with a Thai FL, she had a chat with me and told me that her Thai FL friend was rejected by her customer the day before for being v.different from the pic and not pretty at all. This customer called the okt immediately to complain and the okt offered him a change of FL. This pathetic Thai FL then cried for over an hour bcoz of this incident. :(

[inspurion]

same as eating durian in GL....

you don't know how good is it. the durian seller keep on whacking the durian with his knive, and he shout, "HO AH"! pleassantly, you decided to trust him for his experience in choosing durian as u are a newbie. When open, u press the meat as ordered by durian seller, soft, hmmmmm...maybe good?

Then you sit down, you begin to take a bite. "OH MY GOD!" how come so terrible taste??? What do you do..........

1) pay and stop eating
2) run away without paying
3) complain to durian seller (but he will fuck u up instead)
4) finish everything and leave peacefully. but will never return again


I think option 4 will be feasible. Of cos' don't expect to pay peanuts for a quality durian. Right?:)

[smutts]

Nowadays, i try not to have too much expectation before the bonking session esp for a Thai FL who looks great on photo.

This customer called the okt immediately to complain and the okt offered him a change of FL. This pathetic Thai FL then cried for over an hour bcoz of this incident.


I think bro Assassin said something really true, not to get our expectations up too high before bonking sessions. Even though the pics might show some really hot babe, we need to try to control ourselves to prevent disappointments of not liking the FLs.


Please don't "run away". It is am immature way to handle the situation.

The girls are also understanding, and you should be a gentleman with them at all times. If declining, say something to the effect of "you're a very pretty lady, but just not what I was looking for today".


FLs are human too and not all of them are doing this cuz they want to, but mostly cuz of the need to. So like bro Nuglut said, lets be the gentleman and decline with courtesy towards both OKTs and the FLs. :) Although sometimes it can be quite frustrating cuz your bonking session has been ruined, there's no need to complain to the OKT in front of the girls. ;)

[beauthaiful]

Another experience was whereby after a bonking session with a Thai FL, she had a chat with me and told me that her Thai FL friend was rejected by her customer the day before for being v.different from the pic and not pretty at all. This customer called the okt immediately to complain and the okt offered him a change of FL. This pathetic Thai FL then cried for over an hour bcoz of this incident. :(

Yes, this is true. Rejection breaks the girl's self-esteem as much as her faith.
If got no trust in the OKT, don't book, better than go and reject. Do no good for all parties. :)

1) Customer waste travelling time
2) Girl lose potential slot
3) OKT lose potential slot

How many OKT still do Quality Control??? like the old school where only selected good ones will come? At least I know, I seen/interviewed my own. :)

[goodpartner]

Me think depending on the price (relative to the market average) I may reject on the spot or close 2 eyes to get it over with.

I'll have higher expectation on photo accuracy if it's marketed above $150. Anything less is a good value by itself given the duration, compare to GL50.

Service-wise, we can't blame anyone or even those fake FR, since we can't eat and demand refund even if it taste bad - just as in the legal GL scene. Afterall, a lot of it depends on chemistry between two human being.

Looks and Stats-wise, someone gotta get the blame if it's way out of league from the photo/description. It's a judgement call how far off it is, but I think we can tell if it's an outright cheat. Since it cannot be the gal's fault, it's nice to leave behind a token.

For "cheating" cases, just be brave to write an honest FR as you'll more likely to gain a +ve balance of rep points even if you kanna zapped (if that's your concern).

Can't say I should try to support my favorite/reliable agent as a safe bet, since that's not how my [our] little bro think. Therefore, this is still a good thread to trash it out & share our experience/suggested action.

I'm happy to see more live pics nowadays which usually is a strong vote of confident on the gal's look if any. Still, I look forward to the day when youtube videos is harnessed for selection of stocks :D

I know it'll cum one day and in fact have seen the "body clips" of some FL (no face) - to me body is more important than face as I can always adopt a position to avoid the face. Just waiting for the day when the technology is widely embraced and become a standard :rolleyes:

[levisex]

We are being spoilt too much, with so much choices n so much innovative stuff from these online agents providing us. Other countries dont even have photos for sale.

Even sex141's picture so heavily touched up, but customers still willing to try, and be disappointed. After disappointment, no one to complain too. Even if complain, also never get any discounts. Here in SG, you complain, you get discount next trip???

I am happy to be a singaporean. Keep the good stuff coming in! I'm not too fussy either.. Above average in all areas, will be good. not need perfect :)

[Midnightiger]

Another experience was whereby after a bonking session with a Thai FL, she had a chat with me and told me that her Thai FL friend was rejected by her customer the day before for being v.different from the pic and not pretty at all. This customer called the okt immediately to complain and the okt offered him a change of FL. This pathetic Thai FL then cried for over an hour bcoz of this incident.
Yes, this is true. Rejection breaks the girl's self-esteem as much as her faith.

1) Customer waste travelling time
2) Girl lose potential slot
3) OKT lose potential slot

And in such a case, whose fault will that be? Could this have been prevented? Yes it could.

All that needs to be done is not to put up "fake" picture of the FLs. As what ALL bros here have been advocating, "live" pics is the way to go. What you see is what you get. Simple as that.

Regards
Tiger

[Midnightiger]

I know it'll cum one day and in fact have seen the "body clips" of some FL (no face) - to me body is more important than face as I can always adopt a position to avoid the face. Just waiting for the day when the technology is widely embraced and become a standard :rolleyes:
I agree with you that body is more important that face (provided face must still be OK looking. Just hope that if we take an FL based on body clip without face, it is the same FL when we go into the room.

I now tend not to pick any FL who don't have bikini pics cos the tight Tees and shorts will "hide" whatever defects there are in the body like fats, etc, etc. By the way, even with bikini pics, I still had taken some FLs whose body is far from what is shown in her pics. But at least the precentage of "cock ups" are less.

Like what bros here say, "live" pics is the way to go.

Regards
tiger

[goodpartner]

Wah bro tiger u bery straight forward with ur comments, wish I could be as direct.... haha.... ;) I enjoy ur style, need more bros like u :D

So one other thing in answering TS's question is that the correct thing to do is to do what's suggested above AND to write an honest FR on why you reject/felt disappointed about the FL. That's what missing in the spirit of FR-ing nowadays. Shit, I myself am guilting of it as I've that can't beat'em join'em mentality.

Most every1 adopting that "Write FR only if good, No FR if bad" attitude, which is wise to the extend of avoiding conflicts but doesn't help to shape the market positively.

I am happy to be a singaporean. Keep the good stuff coming in! I'm not too fussy either.. Above average in all areas, will be good. not need perfect

No lah bro we're not being spoilt - what is Sillypore good at? We want Sillypore to have the BEST FL market, so don't just compare with overseas & be contented easily. This is one thing we can help put Sillypore in the global map - in support of the garment's effort to boost up our entertainment industry. When the two casino opens, all the OKT here will be laughing to the banks :cool:

Juz hope price will not jet up by then, given higher demand and more buying power by these farang gamblers; then all the locals here like us will whine more... :( So enjoy while it last....

[master bate]

I am really grateful that so many brothers had shared their experience and thoughts...
Thanks brother goodpartner, midnight tiger... of cos brother beauthaiful and sister bonnie.... and the rest of the contributors..

I do agree that live pic is probably the best...
Live Clip.. wow! will be the next thing la.. maybe SBF can start a 'you tube' like place.. where video clip can be uploaded.... (no porns stuff.. ya? ahaha)

GFE.. talking about GFE is very individual.. between the FL and you.. sometimes got spark.. somtimes no spark only dead fish.. for the same FL.. it takes 2 hands to clap la.. I suppose...

So I think.. I must use the usual phrase.. one's man poison is another man's meat...??

Cheers!!:p

[Midnightiger]

GFE.. talking about GFE is very individual.. between the FL and you.. sometimes got spark.. somtimes no spark only dead fish.. for the same FL.. it takes 2 hands to clap la.. I suppose...

So I think.. I must use the usual phrase.. one's man poison is another man's meat...??

Cheers!!:p

Personally, I don't agree with this.

For your info, I know there are many FLs who do not have chemistry with their customers. But being professional, they "acted" out their part and thus make their customers enjoy the sessions, some even RTF. Even non-professional FLs, knowing that they are here to make money, does that.

"Dead" fishes.. should not be here at all.

Regards
Tiger

[FRMao]

Yea... I agreed. Dead fishes should be in market, not here. Gems should be here. Haha. I tried a few FL from stables and independants. I agreed that sometimes when I saw the FL i booked, I wonder did I enter the right room. Haha... But the looks are still acceptable for me up till now. Sometimes, even live pics can have difference. Certain angle has different view also. But, live pics is always better compared to studio-ed.
No fish, prawn also ok lah... :D

[Bora]

For your info, I know there are many FLs who do not have chemistry with their customers. But being professional, they "acted" out their part and thus make their customers enjoy the sessions, some even RTF. Even non-professional FLs, knowing that they are here to make money, does that.

"Dead" fishes.. should not be here at all.


This one I like. I totally agree with you.

[smutts]

Personally, I don't agree with this.

But being professional, they "acted" out their part and thus make their customers enjoy the sessions, some even RTF. Even non-professional FLs, knowing that they are here to make money, does that.

Tiger

Good one Bro tiger! What you said is indeed very true! :) There are no FLs that I've met so far who are "dead fishes". I guess only place we can find the "dead fishes" would be in GL, though I've never been that unfortunate to meet one! :D

[Midnightiger]

I am really grateful that so many brothers had shared their experience and thoughts...
Thanks brother goodpartner, midnight tiger... of cos brother beauthaiful and sister bonnie.... and the rest of the contributors..



Received a "wake up" call from a fellow bro so better start "up" bros who have "up" me. LOL!

So you first. Thanks

Regards
Tiger

[yinyang]

..cum one day and in fact have seen the "body clips" of some FL (no face) - to me body is more important than face as I can always adopt a position to avoid the face.
..body is more important that face (provided face must still be OK looking. Just hope that if we take an FL based on body clip without face, it is the same FL when we go into the room.
If face not langgar 1, fire base station?:p

Horny jokes aside, rule of thumb is to discount studio pics >20% (sure there are some whose studio pics not do justice). And mostly, they come more tanned..

On QA, I know some okts do a "physical" on newbies on 1st tour of duty. All for the better, scary if kena LB even if post op:eek: