Dating a Vietnamese ktv girl

[Farfaraway888]

Hi

How is it like dating a Vietnamese ktv girls ? Is it about buying gifts and giving them money ? If so, what’s the rate like for giving them money for an exclusive relationship ? I know it probably differs from girl to girl and the type of relationship, but just want to get a gauge how much will need to spend on time each month ?

[Chua Soi Lek]

You should ask yourself why would the KTV girl want to have an exclusive relationship with you ?

Their purpose here is to earn money … not to have relationships with you !

[Marmots]

I first saw this from a samster's signature.

For your reference.

https://sbfsg.social/showthread.php?p=13791624#post13791624

[Alantino]

They are endless pit. You have to control on your end.

[bbloveme]

I first saw this from a samster's signature.

For your reference.

https://sbfsg.social/showthread.php?p=13791624#post13791624

thanks for sharing bro. i recall a samster signature as well.
everyone is fishing, you either a fish or you are the one fishing.

my own note: if you dono who you are, then you are the fish no doubt :)

[Xgenre]

This gen of Viet girl is scarier. Last time Viet girl want to hit and run. Earn as much as they can before their social visit pass expire. Many stay in Blk 3 and 4 of Joo Chiat Road. Then come a generation who wants to marry you to get PR so that they can work while squeezing you dry.

The current ones want to marry you, have kids and get Singapore citizenship. Once they get pink ic, divorce you to get monthly alimony plus child maintenance. With pink IC, they can do fs without worry. AV catch also no penalty, won't get sent back home. When they are old, their SG children will take care of them. Old already open nail manicure business.

[Sextus]

Hi

How is it like dating a Vietnamese ktv girls ? Is it about buying gifts and giving them money ? If so, what’s the rate like for giving them money for an exclusive relationship ? I know it probably differs from girl to girl and the type of relationship, but just want to get a gauge how much will need to spend on time each month ?

Do you actually believe in exclusive relationship with Viet girls? In their culture, spreading their legs for monetary gain is pretty normal for most girls. Only a handful are good ones but ktv is not a place to find those. Just find a sb on seeking or sugarbook. Don't be silly. :D

[Tai_zi21]

Let be honest here… u r just one of her many boyfriends around… trust me take the easier way out… pay for them ST fuck and go simple no emotional baggage for u… there will always be a prettier Vietnam gal for u to choose from

[TheIdesOfMarch]

I first saw this from a samster's signature.

For your reference.

https://sbfsg.social/showthread.php?p=13791624#post13791624

Wah CB this is a fucking slap in the face for KTV party animals. But very well written and said.

[TheIdesOfMarch]

This gen of Viet girl is scarier. Last time Viet girl want to hit and run. Earn as much as they can before their social visit pass expire. Many stay in Blk 3 and 4 of Joo Chiat Road. Then come a generation who wants to marry you to get PR so that they can work while squeezing you dry.

The current ones want to marry you, have kids and get Singapore citizenship. Once they get pink ic, divorce you to get monthly alimony plus child maintenance. With pink IC, they can do fs without worry. AV catch also no penalty, won't get sent back home. When they are old, their SG children will take care of them. Old already open nail manicure business.

Basically described OT MLs in a nutshell. And some of the older Viet FLs that used to go to Brix and Ipanema and OT. Succubi one and all.

[Hurricane88]

Hi

How is it like dating a Vietnamese ktv girls ? Is it about buying gifts and giving them money ? If so, what’s the rate like for giving them money for an exclusive relationship ? I know it probably differs from girl to girl and the type of relationship, but just want to get a gauge how much will need to spend on time each month ?

Go ahead try it and come back to tell us your story...:)

Imo will say 3 stages...:)

Stage 1 - heaven elevens including f-raw

Stage 2 - emptiness becos she told you she need to work and no time for you unless you have cash or iPhone 15 to give her

Stage 3 - she going back to Vietnam...bb to you...so either to you contine to visit her in Vietnam....or you move on...:)

There are variations if you intend to marry her...which can result in other stages...:)

[Farfaraway888]

Thanks for all the advice guys!!

[Farfaraway888]

Woh you are spot on for stage 1 and stage 2 now. Oops

Go ahead try it and come back to tell us your story...:)

Imo will say 3 stages...:)

Stage 1 - heaven elevens including f-raw

Stage 2 - emptiness becos she told you she need to work and no time for you unless you have cash or iPhone 15 to give her

Stage 3 - she going back to Vietnam...bb to you...so either to you contine to visit her in Vietnam....or you move on...:)

There are variations if you intend to marry her...which can result in other stages...:)

[Hurricane88]

Woh you are spot on for stage 1 and stage 2 now. Oops

Read this thread if you want to date Vietnamese as wife...:)

https://sammyboyforum.online/showthread.php?t=64297

[Hurricane88]

I first saw this from a samster's signature.

For your reference.

https://sbfsg.social/showthread.php?p=13791624#post13791624

I salute this truth...if they are in Singapore they will milk any guy dry...:)

One real live event at Geylang near lor 39 onwards...was a CNY think year 2007/8....one chio VB dress sexily greeted every guy. inside the pub..most men will give her ang pows...:)

So she can identify who give what...when her hands full and also her small bag full..she will go to one side walk and started tearing open the ang pows...when she saw $2 she will cursed...if she saw $10, she happy...saw guys gave her $50, $100.....easiy one CNY she can fetched $3k ang pow money...heard she had 3 bfs and several ST farks...so imagine her monthly income...guys willingly take her to lunch and dinner...plus free iPhones, ATM, etc...:)

So another words...is this love or love the Yusof Ishak picture only...:)

[onhamotminh]

Read all the comments from bros and many scenarios present, no good come out at the end hahaha 😂

[Hurricane88]

It depends on the location of the Viet of girls. Whether they are in country (i.e. Singapore) or home country. If you go to their home country, they are some of the hardest girls to fuck. Very conservative by nature. Not like in the Philippines or Thailand where you can befriend a normal girl and then fuck them after one or more dates. Viet girls in their home countries are uptight bitches. Unless u go to a massage place or barber shop, or one of those place on Bui Vien street, very hard to fuck them.

But once they in country here, they open their legs and fuck for money. Need to earn as much as possible. Everything is on the table for money. but by nature, their culture is not to open legs for money.

I agreed with you...if you want to look for a Vietnam wife...then must go to Vietnam and look for yourself...I know is difficult becos of language and need to fly there...but those who fly to Singapore to work is not a desirable wife...:)

I wlll not bothered with those to who went overseas...:)

[Farfaraway888]

So we finally got on the topic of money and she is expecting me to pay her $2000 a month ? Omg. Is that even realistic. Do those guys who ganna KC by them pay that kind of money ?

[Marmots]

So we finally got on the topic of money and she is expecting me to pay her $2000 a month ? Omg. Is that even realistic. Do those guys who ganna KC by them pay that kind of money ?

If $2k a month is going to be non exclusive bang all you want, then I say go for it.

But I think 2k a month will not exclude her from continue to work.

Just to let you know. About 10 years ago, a dude did an exclusive on this prc girl, or so he thought, for I think 100-120 per day. It was not an unacceptable sum even in those days, she just shrugged and said oks.
I was banging the girl left right center every week.

[NaughtynSensual]

Hi

How is it like dating a Vietnamese ktv girls ? Is it about buying gifts and giving them money ? If so, what’s the rate like for giving them money for an exclusive relationship ? I know it probably differs from girl to girl and the type of relationship, but just want to get a gauge how much will need to spend on time each month ?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but KTV girls were got exclusive one? 😬 Don't be naive please.

[Farfaraway888]

Sorry I kinda knew this topic about money was going to come out as she kept talking about it but I always just brushed it off. But dint know it will come out so soon.

Fuck lah, why don't u ask this question first, then don't have to waste time on this thread

[ahseng00]

Take each r/s ( be it in a Ktv or other ENTERTAINMENT VENUE ) with a pinch of salt

You go for this type of venue for entertainment right ?

Even though money was not mentioned , be prepared that price / money is on the table .

[Hurricane88]

So we finally got on the topic of money and she is expecting me to pay her $2000 a month ? Omg. Is that even realistic. Do those guys who ganna KC by them pay that kind of money ?

Salary for Vietnamese is averagely 4 to 7mil per month in hcm...:)

So Sgd 2k = 35mil dong per month...rate 17500

A friend of mine can live in hcm base on sgd 1k per month today including accomodation, food, transport...:)

Anyway Viet gal working in overseas will want to max their earnings...becos many are trying to repay family debts etc...:)

IMO, I will not bother...:)

[Chua Soi Lek]

Salary for Vietnamese is averagely 4 to 7mil per month in hcm...:)

So Sgd 2k = 35mil dong per month...rate 17500

A friend of mine can live in hcm base on sgd 1k per month today including accomodation, food, transport...:)

Anyway Viet gal working in overseas will want to max their earnings...becos many are trying to repay family debts etc...:)

IMO, I will not bother...:)
If that’s the average salary a normal girl in Vietnam is earning in proper non-sex job, then bro farfaraway888 should goto Vietnam and offer the local girls there double, say 8 to 14 mil per month to be his exclusive …

That way bro farfaraway888 no need to worry she’s working in ktv and letting other customers bonking her …

[DTCEPL]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but KTV girls were got exclusive one? 😬 Don't be naive please.

KTV is where some Men find 'true' love with Thais, Viets and PRCs etc.:D

[tankawen]

So we finally got on the topic of money and she is expecting me to pay her $2000 a month ? Omg. Is that even realistic. Do those guys who ganna KC by them pay that kind of money ?

I don't know the full context of your relationship with her, but IMO, S$2k will not get her to be exclusive to you and stop sleeping with other customers. She can easily earn 4-5x that by working in a KTV in SG. Why will she settle for just $2k? At best, your $2k will merely ensure that she'll always be available for you whenever you need her.

While it's true that day-to-day expenses in Vietnam are not that high, many such girls are aiming for something much higher (e.g. buy property, buy land, buy car etc) that led them to pursue this line of work in the first place. Unless she's truly in love with you (again, we don't know the full context), it is unlikely that she's suddenly going to give up on all those material aspirations.

[Farfaraway888]

Yes that’s right. This $2000 just ensures that she is available for me when I need it and it won’t be exclusive. And pretty sure she also asks from other men as well. I am still considering if I should fall into this trap. I enjoy her company so I am inclined to do it. But on the other hand, I still find it excessive so I am conflicted as well. She will only be here for a couple of months more so I thought of just paying it and enjoy the company for a few months. I am a sucker for this kind of feel. But just feel that $2000 a month is a stretch for the average Singaporean like me. So not sure if she is just trying to get the best out of it since she knows I might just fall into her trap ?

[Northern]

Up to you to calculate how much you have spent on her and how much it will cost you at the same rate going forward. Hotels, meals, gift, misc will be a constant, 2k or not.

If the sex is that good, why not.
Just one small thing to consider, if you went raw, what are the odds that there are others that did as well.
You want to put yourself to that risk ?

You are below 30, probably below 25.
Go around more.
You'd be surprised at others you may encounter.

Hope you read the post Marmots attached.

[tankawen]

Yes thatÂ’s right. This $2000 just ensures that she is available for me when I need it and it wonÂ’t be exclusive. And pretty sure she also asks from other men as well. I am still considering if I should fall into this trap. I enjoy her company so I am inclined to do it. But on the other hand, I still find it excessive so I am conflicted as well. She will only be here for a couple of months more so I thought of just paying it and enjoy the company for a few months. I am a sucker for this kind of feel. But just feel that $2000 a month is a stretch for the average Singaporean like me. So not sure if she is just trying to get the best out of it since she knows I might just fall into her trap ?

Well, if you are already aware that this isn't exclusive and merely ensures her availability, how is it still a trap? Seems like a transparent case of willing buyer vs willing seller. The only question is whether you think it is worth it. If it is just for the next 2-3 months, and your finances are ok, at least $6k spent shouldn't result in your financial ruin.

Some bros who are out purely for bonking will think that $6k can get you more than 20 bonks with Vietbus from Dome3. That's one bonk every 4-5 days for 3 months. Plus can change girl every time. But other bros will willingly pay the $6k to the same girl because it buys them way more GFE and feels. So it's really up to you to decide la

[Farfaraway888]

Northern Yes sex is good and I do like the GFE feel. We meet up and text quite frequently, so high chance she doesn’t really have chance to meet someone else for sex. So am pretty comfortable she is quite safe. But I also know I probably won’t go for a longer term relationship. This will all end when she goes back to Vietnam so I am not that invested also.

Haha ok fair to say it’s not a trap. It’s a willing transaction between both parties. Actually I initially just bought some gifts. Not the very expensive kind. We were hanging out for 2 months before I think she realised all her other friends were getting a better deal from the other customer and she decided to ask me about it as well. Thanks tankawen for helping me rationalise it well. Yes I do enjoy the GFE feel and the time with her. I am not sure if she was genuine about it but if she is not, she probably does a good job at acting it out too. Yeah I guess I am probably leaning towards paying her now then.

[outc4st]

Think about how much 2k a month can do for you. You can go for Thais, Viet, Japanese, Russian. It boils down to how much you enjoy the GFE. Remember it's not your girl, it's just your turn.

[KangTuo]

I first saw this from a samster's signature.

For your reference.

https://sbfsg.social/showthread.php?p=13791624#post13791624

so many years in sbf, but first time having a good read. I was quite supportive of Mummy Amy during my chionging days :)

[KangTuo]

Read this thread if you want to date Vietnamese as wife...:)

https://sammyboyforum.online/showthread.php?t=64297

this thread nothing much to read lah :D

long time no read, its quite fun reading my own story.

[KangTuo]

So we finally got on the topic of money and she is expecting me to pay her $2000 a month ? Omg. Is that even realistic. Do those guys who ganna KC by them pay that kind of money ?

she is very clear that she is making a transaction with you. If you willing to buy that gfe then ok go ahead. Don't put in your feeling into it till it hurt you.

I believe it will be $2k+++ by then. Not sure what is your earning power but a normal ktv girls these days easily earn 5 figure per month. Those angpai are earning at least $25k not inclusive of gifts. $2k is peanut to most ktv girls these days as many high rollers are throwing tons of money just to bed the vb.

the only time that she is exclusive to you is when you marry her and subdue her

[NaughtynSensual]

KTV is where some Men find 'true' love with Thais, Viets and PRCs etc.:D

Use $$$ buy one? 🤭 Our SPR v hotcakes one hor! :D

[KangTuo]

Last time Viet girl want to hit and run. Earn as much as they can before their social visit pass expire. Many stay in Blk 3 and 4 of Joo Chiat Road.

that is Haig Road. blk 2,3,4,9,10 and 11 :D

last time viet girl easy to kc and play along.
sometimes really miss those days where every night meet many sbf kakis to cheong pub/ktv and picking up vb to have fun together.

[Hurricane88]

this thread nothing much to read lah :D

long time no read, its quite fun reading my own story.

Then how come you read your own story...:)

Come share your success story...now that you are father and hubby...:)

I still remember vividly your story on No 1, 2 and 3...:)

[Northern]

Your money, your call.

But go read sexual health matters, some bros that worry their souls out after.
Protection so you can go further and longer.

On another note, from my experience is that, its nice to have good feel, but I only found better after good was not around anymore, which kind of got me thinking. Of course, met lemons as well.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Time and money is limited, the choice will always be more of the same vs who's next .

[KangTuo]

Come share your success story...now that you are father and hubby...:)

I still remember vividly your story on No 1, 2 and 3...:)

success stories? so may bro also got success stories.
find the right one, forget about the past, marry and make her exclusive yours lor.

the No. 1, 2, 3 stories lost in the TCSS thread liao :D

Talking about paying for exclusivity in this topic, there is no exclusivity in the world of WL/FL/ML. Maybe only for a time limit.

If you guys are into massage scene and know of a very high maintenance viet ML by the name of L**k* or L*n*. She even opened a Spa (SS8) but already closed down.

Story/rumour is that she was being bao-ed by a rich man. But what she was doing when she was bao-ed? She still in the trade of massage and providing GQ. Seems that they broke up (based on her wechat moment) and another high roller came to bao her. Again, what is she doing now? Still same trade in massage and providing GQ.

[Xgenre]

that is Haig Road. blk 2,3,4,9,10 and 11 :D.

Ya, this area also a lot. What I mentioned previously were the 2 HDB blocks above Joo Chiat Complex. Just beside Joo Chiat Road with the Vietnamese eateries, ktv and hourly hotels.

Now some of them just band together to open a level 2 shophouse spa to provide FS service. Easy for ladies on social visit pass or dependent pass to pop by in their free time to earn a quick buck.

[YoungForever]

Northern Yes sex is good and I do like the GFE feel. We meet up and text quite frequently, so high chance she doesn’t really have chance to meet someone else for sex. So am pretty comfortable she is quite safe. But I also know I probably won’t go for a longer term relationship. This will all end when she goes back to Vietnam so I am not that invested also.

Haha ok fair to say it’s not a trap. It’s a willing transaction between both parties. Actually I initially just bought some gifts. Not the very expensive kind. We were hanging out for 2 months before I think she realised all her other friends were getting a better deal from the other customer and she decided to ask me about it as well. Thanks tankawen for helping me rationalise it well. Yes I do enjoy the GFE feel and the time with her. I am not sure if she was genuine about it but if she is not, she probably does a good job at acting it out too. Yeah I guess I am probably leaning towards paying her now then.

Bro, I kpo a bit. Let me ask you, you have any future plan with her?
Or you just want to enjoy yourself with her during her stay her?

Intro of myself,

I have a beautiful Vietnamese wife who used to work in KTV

Me & my group of friends (All bosses of same trade, we can afford) go Viet KTV 4 - 5 a week before I met my wife.

We know the few bosses of the KTV very well, and their mummy now open their own KTV

My friends (3 of them), normally after the KTV session, they go for free fuck. 1 of my friend always had to pay to fuck the girl :confused:

As for me, so far, I only have 4 Viet girls let me fuck for free, off course one of them is my wife now:)

Telling you, for Viet girls, regardless of trade, if they like you, they don't talk to you about money. in KTV, they will try to dip other guys money, but not yours. You have to let her go out with other guys for lunch, dinner, shopping or even outing. If she is really into you (Yours) she will not go hotel with other guys. KTV girls who don't go out with customers (for most guys), normally will not come KTV to support the girls, naturally she will ask from you. She need to pay her rental, agent fee, etc.
But there are also some ignorant guys, like 1 of my friend, because he always booked the girl the whole session when we are there, the girl treated my friend like her bf, but she never go out with my friend at all, out fetch her to & fro to work for months, now got another Viet KTV still working, but staying with him now, happy for him.

[Hurricane88]

Yes that’s right. This $2000 just ensures that she is available for me when I need it and it won’t be exclusive. And pretty sure she also asks from other men as well. I am still considering if I should fall into this trap. I enjoy her company so I am inclined to do it. But on the other hand, I still find it excessive so I am conflicted as well. She will only be here for a couple of months more so I thought of just paying it and enjoy the company for a few months. I am a sucker for this kind of feel. But just feel that $2000 a month is a stretch for the average Singaporean like me. So not sure if she is just trying to get the best out of it since she knows I might just fall into her trap ?

Before you agreed to give her S$2,000.00...hope you are giving S$2,000.00 or more to your parents...escpecially mom...:)

I cannot agree that men gave money to gal but din give money to parents..:)

[Hurricane88]

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Story/rumour is that she was being bao-ed by a rich man. But what she was doing when she was bao-ed? She still in the trade of massage and providing GQ. Seems that they broke up (based on her wechat moment) and another high roller came to bao her. Again, what is she doing now? Still same trade in massage and providing GQ.

Cannot understand such mentality...anyway if you said so then what else to say...:)

[Marmots]

Come to think of it, that 2k can be put to much better use if you spend it in Vietnam or Thailand itself.

Go firsthand to the source :D:D

You should go check out the international forums.

I myself wished I had gone international rather than mostly restricting myself to Singapore.

[Farfaraway888]

Haha I actually have no future plans with her. Just want to enjoy during these few months while she is here. Yes she is very lazy to text and meet customers outside so she has no chance to milk other customers and I guess that’s why the question came to me eventually. She did say her friends say she is stupid to hang out with me without any benefits. Most of her friends has boyfriends that pay them money so I guess she felt imbalanced.

Hope to see you at the ktv one day bro. Haha

Bro, I kpo a bit. Let me ask you, you have any future plan with her?
Or you just want to enjoy yourself with her during her stay her?

Intro of myself,

I have a beautiful Vietnamese wife who used to work in KTV

Me & my group of friends (All bosses of same trade, we can afford) go Viet KTV 4 - 5 a week before I met my wife.

We know the few bosses of the KTV very well, and their mummy now open their own KTV

My friends (3 of them), normally after the KTV session, they go for free fuck. 1 of my friend always had to pay to fuck the girl :confused:

As for me, so far, I only have 4 Viet girls let me fuck for free, off course one of them is my wife now:)

Telling you, for Viet girls, regardless of trade, if they like you, they don't talk to you about money. in KTV, they will try to dip other guys money, but not yours. You have to let her go out with other guys for lunch, dinner, shopping or even outing. If she is really into you (Yours) she will not go hotel with other guys. KTV girls who don't go out with customers (for most guys), normally will not come KTV to support the girls, naturally she will ask from you. She need to pay her rental, agent fee, etc.
But there are also some ignorant guys, like 1 of my friend, because he always booked the girl the whole session when we are there, the girl treated my friend like her bf, but she never go out with my friend at all, out fetch her to & fro to work for months, now got another Viet KTV still working, but staying with him now, happy for him.

[Farfaraway888]

Haha this is a very good question. Probably would have I think. 😂😂
Before you agreed to give her S$2,000.00...hope you are giving S$2,000.00 or more to your parents...escpecially mom...:)

I cannot agree that men gave money to gal but din give money to parents..:)

[Farfaraway888]

Yes I know. I think we meet and text quite often so I kinda know she probably has no chance to meet other customers for sex. But it’s always hard to tell definitely. I know 2k can get me a lot more. But I am just a sucker for the GFE feeling.

All this is too pathetic for words. For $2k, this guy is chasing after this money grabbing Viet, who god knows how many times a week, her cheebye is being used.

For $2K, I rather go to HCM and have Vietbus chase after me.

[Farfaraway888]

Pretty hard for me to venture overseas so probably have to try it in Singapore for now. Haha

Come to think of it, that 2k can be put to much better use if you spend it in Vietnam or Thailand itself.

Go firsthand to the source :D:D

You should go check out the international forums.

I myself wished I had gone international rather than mostly restricting myself to Singapore.

[Farfaraway888]

Yes I know about the feelings part. I have been trying not to get too invested as I know will just get to hurt in the end. Yes with the gifts meals and hotel definitely will be more than $2k I guess.

Are the ktv girls earning so much now ? At least for some of the ktvs I go to, doesn’t seem like there are a lot of customers. Maybe it’s the day and timing I go to aa well. Are the popular ktvs still having so many customers for them to earn 25k each month ?


she is very clear that she is making a transaction with you. If you willing to buy that gfe then ok go ahead. Don't put in your feeling into it till it hurt you.

I believe it will be $2k+++ by then. Not sure what is your earning power but a normal ktv girls these days easily earn 5 figure per month. Those angpai are earning at least $25k not inclusive of gifts. $2k is peanut to most ktv girls these days as many high rollers are throwing tons of money just to bed the vb.

the only time that she is exclusive to you is when you marry her and subdue her

[Banaber]

We meet up and text quite frequently, so high chance she doesn’t really have chance to meet someone else for sex. So am pretty comfortable she is quite safe.

self deceiving illusion. even if you are beside her every sleeping hour, she can go out during working hours too.

so so so, which ktv is this?

[Chua Soi Lek]

Haha this is a very good question. Probably would have I think. ����

What is there to think ?

It’s either you got give your parents $2,000 per month ! Or didn’t give !

[KangTuo]

self deceiving illusion. even if you are beside her every sleeping hour, she can go out during working hours too.

so so so, which ktv is this?

sounds like me and most of the goody husbands. Night time at home but working hours go eat out.
..... FBI! open the door :D

so so so ah soh...
remind me of the blue cat goodyfeed :p

[KangTuo]

Yes I know. I think we meet and text quite often so I kinda know she probably has no chance to meet other customers for sex. But it’s always hard to tell definitely.

its your guess only. Its hard to tell unless the girl been truthfully and straight tell you she go here there, do this that with customer. Hardly come by such ktv girls.

Yes I know about the feelings part. I have been trying not to get too invested

you already invested your feelings. Enjoy the ride

Are the popular ktvs still having so many customers for them to earn 25k each month ?

with a standard tips of $100 or more and overpriced ST or overnight, coupled with many egoistic customer spending more to bed the popular girls. Yes. the ktv girls can hit this target.

[YoungForever]

Haha I actually have no future plans with her. Just want to enjoy during these few months while she is here. Yes she is very lazy to text and meet customers outside so she has no chance to milk other customers and I guess that’s why the question came to me eventually. She did say her friends say she is stupid to hang out with me without any benefits. Most of her friends has boyfriends that pay them money so I guess she felt imbalanced.

Hope to see you at the ktv one day bro. Haha

In that case, just enjoy within your means.

Which KTV you go or she is from?

[Farfaraway888]

Yes I think I kinda invested some feelings in now. But hopefully not too much to go downhill eventually.

Haha how come some of you guys interested which ktv is it. Isn’t this quite common regardless of which ktv.

[FatSpider]

Yes I know. I think we meet and text quite often so I kinda know she probably has no chance to meet other customers for sex. But it’s always hard to tell definitely. I know 2k can get me a lot more. But I am just a sucker for the GFE feeling.

take just 5 min in toilet
ask j teo

[damon25]

This reminds me of a story. True story.

After F-ing this viet girl for a few times, i told her jokingly (soft of)

Me - Why not you stop working? I support you.

Her - You cannot afford me, I make $18k per month.

Me - In this case, why not you support me?

hahhahaha and we have a good laugh.

[Chua Soi Lek]

take just 5 min in toilet
ask j teo

Haha i don’t remember she commented about the time or duration … lol

I only remember she mentioned about space … haha 😂

[Chua Soi Lek]

Yes I think I kinda invested some feelings in now. But hopefully not too much to go downhill eventually.
Eventually will go downhill and lotsa of heart break … but for now, just enjoy while it last …


Haha how come some of you guys interested which ktv is it. Isn’t this quite common regardless of which ktv.
Bcos bros here want to help you beo your gf … :)

[SirLance]

Eventually will go downhill and lotsa of heart break … but for now, just enjoy while it last …


He need to learned heartbreak before growing up. Also a costly affairs.

[Marmots]

One very important question.

Have you seen her without makeup before ?

On another note, just don’t expect 2k to be exclusive, should be taken as granted that there are others beside you. Doing what you doing.

[Farfaraway888]

Haha nice one. Let me try this on her too 😂

This reminds me of a story. True story.

After F-ing this viet girl for a few times, i told her jokingly (soft of)

Me - Why not you stop working? I support you.

Her - You cannot afford me, I make $18k per month.

Me - In this case, why not you support me?

hahhahaha and we have a good laugh.

[Farfaraway888]

Haha don’t beo now la. Might not even last the next few months 😂
Yeah will probably be heartbroken but hopefully it’s not as bad as I think.

Eventually will go downhill and lotsa of heart break … but for now, just enjoy while it last …


Bcos bros here want to help you beo your gf … :)

[Farfaraway888]

I have gone ktv for a few years. This is the first time I am doing this. But I also told myself it will be the last. Real costly affair monetarily and mentally

He need to learned heartbreak before growing up. Also a costly affairs.

[Farfaraway888]

Yes seen her without makeup. Fair, nice and white skin. Haha thankfully

Yes I think I kinda know that the 2k won’t be exclusive. Will listen to the advice of the bros here :)

One very important question.

Have you seen her without makeup before ?

On another note, just don’t expect 2k to be exclusive, should be taken as granted that there are others beside you. Doing what you doing.

[Farfaraway888]

Haha. Don’t be so harsh bro. My first time so just wanted some
Feedback and field experience from the bros here. :)

Should be upfront about this answer.
The thread starter is a dumbass. End of Story. HAHAHA.

[Northern]

Don't pay full in one time if you are really going ahead.

Maybe 1k mid of month, and another end of month.

Also, you have been with her 2 months+ and she is still around ?
So on something other than tourist visa ?

[damon25]

Bro farfarway888.

Simple. let's talk money and cents (and sense)
$2000 is how many % of your monthly income?

It's 10%, you can take the $2k and splurge on her.
Anything more, you are just digging a huge financial hole to jump in.

After a while, her birthday come, xmas come, v-day come, grandmother go hospital, brother need to go uni, auntie need to give birth. never ending la.

But.. that said, you have already made up your mind. no matter what we say.. you will still proceed.

turn back - the shore is waiting for you.

Haha. Don’t be so harsh bro. My first time so just wanted some
Feedback and field experience from the bros here. :)

[snowcap]

He need to learned heartbreak before growing up. Also a costly affairs.

Bump u back ! Thanks 😊

[tankawen]

I think $2k a month doesn't sound like it'll be a huge financial burden for TS, as long as it lasts for just a couple of months. Anyway it sounds like TS mind is made up, and he is aware that this is not guaranteed to be exclusive, so he is doing this with eyes wide open. So I say just go for it, be as happy as you can during these 2 months, enjoy the GFE, bonk as much as you can, and then end it when the time is up and be happy with the experience.

The danger is if it continues after she goes back to Vietnam, and you are still asked to continue supporting her. Then you may end up digging a hole that you can't get out of. So know your limits and all the best to you.

[KangTuo]

I have gone ktv for a few years. This is the first time I am doing this. But I also told myself it will be the last. Real costly affair monetarily and mentally

It will not be your last if you never stop pubbing and/or going ktv :)
You will grow wiser and mentally stronger in the KC game, hone your skill with the next target :D

In my days of pubbing and going ktv, this is the game played as I got a lot of time to spare... but not $2k :p
Fallen several times, got up and move on. Truthfully, no matter how you hone your skill, there are time when real feeling were put in and it will hurt badly. Just enjoy the ride because it will be sweet memories.

[Farfaraway888]

Thanks for the suggestion. That’s a good idea to break up the payment.
She is on the performing artist work permit from the ktv. It’s the 6 months work permit where you work for 6 months and then you cannot work in Singapore for the next 1 year on this permit.

Don't pay full in one time if you are really going ahead.

Maybe 1k mid of month, and another end of month.

Also, you have been with her 2 months+ and she is still around ?
So on something other than tourist visa ?

[Farfaraway888]

Thanks bro. Unfortunately the 2k is not 10% of my salary. But you are right, more financial obligations might come. I think I just have to take a decision when to stop again should it get too much. I hope I will be of the right mind then :(

Bro farfarway888.

Simple. let's talk money and cents (and sense)
$2000 is how many % of your monthly income?

It's 10%, you can take the $2k and splurge on her.
Anything more, you are just digging a huge financial hole to jump in.

After a while, her birthday come, xmas come, v-day come, grandmother go hospital, brother need to go uni, auntie need to give birth. never ending la.

But.. that said, you have already made up your mind. no matter what we say.. you will still proceed.

turn back - the shore is waiting for you.

[Farfaraway888]

Thanks bro. I think that it wouldn’t last beyond the time she goes back Vietnam. So hopefully this support won’t continue. There would not be any GFE
and bonks for me when she goes back so hopefully I know where to stop.

I think $2k a month doesn't sound like it'll be a huge financial burden for TS, as long as it lasts for just a couple of months. Anyway it sounds like TS mind is made up, and he is aware that this is not guaranteed to be exclusive, so he is doing this with eyes wide open. So I say just go for it, be as happy as you can during these 2 months, enjoy the GFE, bonk as much as you can, and then end it when the time is up and be happy with the experience.

The danger is if it continues after she goes back to Vietnam, and you are still asked to continue supporting her. Then you may end up digging a hole that you can't get out of. So know your limits and all the best to you.

[Farfaraway888]

Haha woh then it’s gotta be tough for me as I don’t think I can stop going to that ktv as I enjoy the drinks and also the teh nei nei 🤣🤣

Looks like should meet up with you to share some experiences together. 😁😁

Do hope it will be sweet memories and doesn’t turn too ugly in the end.
It will not be your last if you never stop pubbing and/or going ktv :)
You will grow wiser and mentally stronger in the KC game, hone your skill with the next target :D

In my days of pubbing and going ktv, this is the game played as I got a lot of time to spare... but not $2k :p
Fallen several times, got up and move on. Truthfully, no matter how you hone your skill, there are time when real feeling were put in and it will hurt badly. Just enjoy the ride because it will be sweet memories.

[Hurricane88]

Looks like should meet up with you to share some experiences together. ����

Do hope it will be sweet memories and doesn’t turn too ugly in the end.

Good if bro KT willing to meet up with you...he speaks tieng viet well and also sings well...his knowledge on Vietnam culture excellent...:)

[Marmots]

Wait.....wait....wait.....

I think I just self-snooked myself with that post ?


On another note, just don’t expect 2k to be exclusive, should be taken as granted that there are others beside you. Doing what you doing.

So, you pay 2k to do something, which is no different from what you are doing now, without paying 2k.

When you ask her out, do you not give her any sort of compensation/monetary benefits ?

There's a cow there, I pay whenever I want to squeeze some milk each time.
Others do the same thing.
So now I pay a high lump sum to do the same thing, while others can still continue to pay piece meal ?

I am a bit confused myself, don't mind me, only slept 4 hours in past 48.

[benjm85]

Wait.....wait....wait.....

I think I just self-snooked myself with that post ?



So, you pay 2k to do something, which is no different from what you are doing now, without paying 2k.

When you ask her out, do you not give her any sort of compensation/monetary benefits ?

There's a cow there, I pay whenever I want to squeeze some milk each time.
Others do the same thing.
So now I pay a high lump sum to do the same thing, while others can still continue to pay piece meal ?

I am a bit confused myself, don't mind me, only slept 4 hours in past 48.

True, its like paying gym membership u pay lump sum can go unlimited times or u pay per entry haha..

[airman]

Wait.....wait....wait.....

I think I just self-snooked myself with that post ?



So, you pay 2k to do something, which is no different from what you are doing now, without paying 2k.

When you ask her out, do you not give her any sort of compensation/monetary benefits ?

There's a cow there, I pay whenever I want to squeeze some milk each time.
Others do the same thing.
So now I pay a high lump sum to do the same thing, while others can still continue to pay piece meal ?

I am a bit confused myself, don't mind me, only slept 4 hours in past 48.

Reminds me of the recent case of this boomer uncle who gave 15k to his favourite ml and she cut contact with him after receiving the money

[Chua Soi Lek]

…. There would not be any GFE
and bonks for me when she goes back so hopefully I know where to stop.

The keyword is HOPEFULLY …you think you can ?

[Farfaraway888]

Haha woh. Looking forward to see him then.

Good if bro KT willing to meet up with you...he speaks tieng viet well and also sings well...his knowledge on Vietnam culture excellent...:)

[Farfaraway888]

When you say squeeze some milk you mean having sex with the girl right ? Haha

I do buy some bags and treat her to meals here and there. Haha but now I guess it’s the 2k plus all this which is much higher costs ?



Wait.....wait....wait.....

I think I just self-snooked myself with that post ?



So, you pay 2k to do something, which is no different from what you are doing now, without paying 2k.

When you ask her out, do you not give her any sort of compensation/monetary benefits ?

There's a cow there, I pay whenever I want to squeeze some milk each time.
Others do the same thing.
So now I pay a high lump sum to do the same thing, while others can still continue to pay piece meal ?

I am a bit confused myself, don't mind me, only slept 4 hours in past 48.

[Farfaraway888]

Hahaha I will come back to the bros here for more advice when it happens hahah

The keyword is HOPEFULLY …you think you can ?

[East]

I do buy some bags and treat her to meals here and there.

I think for working girls like her, money is the most practical, unless you get discount from buying the gift itself. Maybe 1 or 2 item as momento, but cash most of the time will still be better for you and her.

take care and not fall too hard.

[Chua Soi Lek]

Hahaha I will come back to the bros here for more advice when it happens hahah

Sometimes humans are funny, you know you will be hurt badly at the end but then still want to pursue it ...

.... such is life...

[SirLance]

Sometimes humans are funny, you know you will be hurt badly at the end but then still want to pursue it ...

.... such is life...

Process of growing up.

[Offline]

Hahaha I will come back to the bros here for more advice when it happens hahah

I think it has already happened.
I've been down the road before, with a PRC.
Went to China a few times even, screwed non stop.

But easy money thinking got to her, her initial thinking of coming sg to work ktv and to look see play changed.
She got a lot of branded and expensive gifts, watches, necklaces, iphones, ipads as she told me of the people that gave her gifts.
I held my ground and did not try to compete, I was like, I will only do so much, take it or leave it.

I did not get hurt emotionally(I think, pretty long ago) but sure was fucked up tiring and exhausting, and looking back at it, at least I went to China a few times to look see look see.
Otherwise, it would have been total waste of time, energies and effort.

I could have had so much more fun at ktvs if I had not restricted my efforts to her.

Something for you to consider.

[KangTuo]

I think this is a good piece of relationship dvise towards FL/ML.

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSN1d5weE/

[KangTuo]

Good if bro KT willing to meet up with you...he speaks tieng viet well and also sings well...his knowledge on Vietnam culture excellent...:)

aiyo, helping me make appointment ah :)

Haha woh. Looking forward to see him then.

sorry bro, chances maybe real low. :o
too much commitment after work. My possible free time is only during office hour which you maybe working. :D

[Hurricane88]

aiyo, helping me make appointment ah :)



No lah...how can I make appointment for you...is up to you mah...:)

As father to your kids and hubby to wife...then seriously no time after work...go back already happy man...:)

[Farfaraway888]

Yes I agree. Would have saved more money and time and not get hurt emotionally if I had just sticked to chionging ktv! I do hope this is the last time I am doing it as definitely not easy. Sometimes just thought of going back to my chionging ktv days and just relax and chill.

I think it has already happened.
I've been down the road before, with a PRC.
Went to China a few times even, screwed non stop.

But easy money thinking got to her, her initial thinking of coming sg to work ktv and to look see play changed.
She got a lot of branded and expensive gifts, watches, necklaces, iphones, ipads as she told me of the people that gave her gifts.
I held my ground and did not try to compete, I was like, I will only do so much, take it or leave it.

I did not get hurt emotionally(I think, pretty long ago) but sure was fucked up tiring and exhausting, and looking back at it, at least I went to China a few times to look see look see.
Otherwise, it would have been total waste of time, energies and effort.

I could have had so much more fun at ktvs if I had not restricted my efforts to her.

Something for you to consider.

[Farfaraway888]

Haha not chionging ktv now already ? But always happy to meet for lunch during your working hours to share experiences together 😀😀

aiyo, helping me make appointment ah :)



sorry bro, chances maybe real low. :o
too much commitment after work. My possible free time is only during office hour which you maybe working. :D

[Banaber]

sounds like me and most of the goody husbands. Night time at home but working hours go eat out.
..... FBI! open the door :D

so so so ah soh...
remind me of the blue cat goodyfeed :p

yeah quoted from blue cat haha~

just spent 2k being tour guide for my ex-boss virgin hcm adventure~
better 2k burnt in hcm than one sg ktv vb!

so so so, hint which ktv leh?

[Farfaraway888]

Haha your adventure sounds fun eh ! Got more details to share ? Hehe

Woh still interested in which ktv eh. Lol I will disclose it further down the road la. Stay tuned to this thread haha. Later going for the same girl how. ��

yeah quoted from blue cat haha~

just spent 2k being tour guide for my ex-boss virgin hcm adventure~
better 2k burnt in hcm than one sg ktv vb!

so so so, hint which ktv leh?

[Marmots]

Sometimes just thought of going back to my chionging ktv days and just relax and chill.

Then why don't you ?

Why pay monthly fee and restrict yourself.
Must be a reason why so many bros tell you otherwise.
Just pay her each time you engage her.

Tell her 2k a month too much for you, you like her but cannot afford her.

Go back to being carefree.

[YoungForever]

Then why don't you ?

Why pay monthly fee and restrict yourself.
Must be a reason why so many bros tell you otherwise.
Just pay her each time you engage her.

Tell her 2k a month too much for you, you like her but cannot afford her.

Go back to being carefree.

Agreed with Bro.

Farfaraway bro, reading all your replied to all the bros here, you are not really into her, why pay her monthly. You should stop giving, and see wether she still go out with you?

[Northern]

悬崖勒马，浪子回头。

小兄弟，还有很多花的，何苦单恋那一朵。

[Naka_Timo]

Then why don't you ?

Why pay monthly fee and restrict yourself.
Must be a reason why so many bros tell you otherwise.
Just pay her each time you engage her.

Tell her 2k a month too much for you, you like her but cannot afford her.

Go back to being carefree.

Upped +156 returned to you,

[sc slayer]

Then why don't you ?

Why pay monthly fee and restrict yourself.
Must be a reason why so many bros tell you otherwise.
Just pay her each time you engage her.

Tell her 2k a month too much for you, you like her but cannot afford her.

Go back to being carefree.
Returned +22:cool:

[Farfaraway888]

Haha woh thanks bro for all the advice of turning back ! But very hard for me now. I promised to pay the $2k now. But yes I do get where you guys are coming from. But then again I am sucked into this now. So probably can only see what I can do to get the best out of this deal.

[Marmots]

Since you already decided to go ahead, then enjoy while it last.
For me, I just do not understand the rationale behind the whole thing.
Already paying her each time, but now want lump sum, which gives you the same as what you are getting now.

Unless she expects each time to have extra also ?

[ckmodel]

Never date a vietnam girl that works in KTV bro unless you have deep pockets.

Even the purest girl will be brainwashed by their friends and money which they have never seen before back in vietnam. Their goal is to earn as much as they can here as they only have 6 months.

Never invest feelings, just pay, play and go. End day we only want to piak them hehehe

[Banaber]

Haha woh thanks bro for all the advice of turning back ! But very hard for me now. I promised to pay the $2k now. But yes I do get where you guys are coming from. But then again I am sucked into this now. So probably can only see what I can do to get the best out of this deal.

so so ah so, let me in on your misery at this ktv. we crash landing together lah~;)

[YoungForever]

Never date a vietnam girl that works in KTV bro unless you have deep pockets.

Even the purest girl will be brainwashed by their friends and money which they have never seen before back in vietnam. Their goal is to earn as much as they can here as they only have 6 months.

Never invest feelings, just pay, play and go. End day we only want to piak them hehehe

Bro ckmodel, no heart feeling, just for laugh


Never date a vietnam girl that works in KTV (Don't agree leh, my wife is a very young beautiful Vietnamese girl who used to worked in KTV)bro unless you have deep pockets (Agreed, I paid off all her family's debth in Vietnam).

Even the purest girl will be brainwashed by their friends (Don't agreed, individual, I wife no leh) and money which they have never seen before back in vietnam (Don't agreed, smart and pretty Vietnamese girls can earn more than in Singapore KTV). Their goal is to earn as much as they can here as they only have 6 months. (6 months her is test water,......GOOD, they will be back for 2 years and 2 years and 2 years)

Never invest feelings(Agreed, not invest, true love) just pay (Have to lah, even you start dating a local girl must pay also mah), play (Off cause lah) and go (Go home together). End day we only want to piak them (Not end of the day, is all day and everyday):D

[ckmodel]

Bro ckmodel, no heart feeling, just for laugh


Never date a vietnam girl that works in KTV (Don't agree leh, my wife is a very young beautiful Vietnamese girl who used to worked in KTV)bro unless you have deep pockets (Agreed, I paid off all her family's debth in Vietnam).

Even the purest girl will be brainwashed by their friends (Don't agreed, individual, I wife no leh) and money which they have never seen before back in vietnam (Don't agreed, smart and pretty Vietnamese girls can earn more than in Singapore KTV). Their goal is to earn as much as they can here as they only have 6 months. (6 months her is test water,......GOOD, they will be back for 2 years and 2 years and 2 years)

Never invest feelings(Agreed, not invest, true love) just pay (Have to lah, even you start dating a local girl must pay also mah), play (Off cause lah) and go (Go home together). End day we only want to piak them (Not end of the day, is all day and everyday):D

Yes bro. I guess the ktv scene now and few years back are very different. For now, just chiong and piak within budget with no feelings attached. Enjoy the ride!

[Bennori]

But nowadays Vietnam girls are so must prettier and hotter than singaporean girls how to resist 🥲

[jazzyhunk1000]

Or sure if this would be the right thread … pre pre Covid time. ( not in chronology, as memory is blur).
Many viet girls used to come just for studying English…there’s a school in RV Road. I had them all young .. and some extremely beautiful. I never booked hotels so it was all in car, beaches in sentosa, condo common area too behind open car park lol

#1 (https://sbf-sg.social/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1) : claimed to be a tv actress in Vietnam …I would believe her - tall, fair, very chic face. She was visiting and moonlighting at Ktv and she told me she’s looking for a paid date. Dated her twice. Both times in the car and then continued on the beach. First date from kisses, to DFK to blow job and 69. Second date was too passionate…fucked on the beach.

#2 (https://sbf-sg.social/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2) : English school student…21 syt. She invited me to meet at her condo common area around 4 in the afternoon. Lived nearby her school and condo (she was staying with her aunt) in those narrow lanes. Ended up talking cock with a coffee and play rock , paper scissors. The residents passing by kept staring seeing a middle aged guy with syt. Fucking good fun and inflates ego. 2nd time met after 8, she wanted to hang out but I usually avoid public places, so ended up sitting in the car chatting. She came braless and it all started with hugs and she was horny. Heavy petting and kissing session. Once sat behind the car and had all possible fun. Met her numerous time after that and it was always very intimate petting and kissing and only once out of many sessions ended up in BJ and pussy licking. Once she asked for money and I helped. Then she said she needs more money and started working at ktv. So far all I used to do was get her chocolates and then that money one time. Suddenly she started demanding if want to meet, pay 150. And that’s when I wished her luck and wrapped up. Lots of gfe..amazing times. I offered my friendship for free and meet as friends….got rejected lol:D
Later on found out one of my acquaintances was living there luckily he or his family never passed by.

#3 (https://sbf-sg.social/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3) : English student again, 21. I pursued her like crazy in the app. She was very pleasant, sexy , beautiful innocent face, big boobs and ass. Oh I remember playing with them for over 6 months. We met as friends and slowly turned into groping sessions under her condo unit (sharing with other viet girls). One time Aunty passing by scolded. I kanna:D, then I realized she was scolding for keeping engine on not for playing with her boobs in public. :p. Then she also started working part time ktv. Said you if are my friend, teach me. Walau ye, I said no hotel but I will teach her and then it was a lot more in the car and beaches lol. She blew me at midnight with waves hitting her knees and my feet. Went for almost a year till she finished her course and went back.

#4 (https://sbf-sg.social/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=4) : the most beautiful of the lot. 22. Sexy, proportionate figure, very fair skin, most shapely boobs and a smile to die for. We would date at beach pubs and take long walks. Had a lot of fun with her in the car and the beach and trails. She was there only for a month, looking to work at ktv. Once she got it, in a couple of days started asking for pay per meet and I called it off. She wanted me to support her at ktv which I refused. She came back again after 3 months, asked me again to support her at ktv and then I had to block her off.



There were a few more of those ktv girls living behind lucky plaza and used to take them for sexy rides at 50/100 each time , dressed to kill and used to have a good time before dropping them off to their ktv.

Sorry for the long story but I hope not the wrong thread.;)

[Farfaraway888]

Some misunderstanding here. Haha actually did not pay in the first 2 months. Just some food and small gifts.

Since you already decided to go ahead, then enjoy while it last.
For me, I just do not understand the rationale behind the whole thing.
Already paying her each time, but now want lump sum, which gives you the same as what you are getting now.

Unless she expects each time to have extra also ?

[Farfaraway888]

Haha I think most bros here are asking me to turn back. Don’t want to drag another person in. 😂

so so ah so, let me in on your misery at this ktv. we crash landing together lah~;)

[Farfaraway888]

Yes I do agree. When I met her she was more innocent and we did not really talk much about money. Really feels like dating. But I guess things change as they talk to more girls working in the ktv

Never date a vietnam girl that works in KTV bro unless you have deep pockets.

Even the purest girl will be brainwashed by their friends and money which they have never seen before back in vietnam. Their goal is to earn as much as they can here as they only have 6 months.

Never invest feelings, just pay, play and go. End day we only want to piak them hehehe

[Farfaraway888]

This is quite a refreshing analysis! I do believe there is true love too. Heard a lot of bros with Vietnamese wife who previously works in the ktv.

Bro ckmodel, no heart feeling, just for laugh


Never date a vietnam girl that works in KTV (Don't agree leh, my wife is a very young beautiful Vietnamese girl who used to worked in KTV)bro unless you have deep pockets (Agreed, I paid off all her family's debth in Vietnam).

Even the purest girl will be brainwashed by their friends (Don't agreed, individual, I wife no leh) and money which they have never seen before back in vietnam (Don't agreed, smart and pretty Vietnamese girls can earn more than in Singapore KTV). Their goal is to earn as much as they can here as they only have 6 months. (6 months her is test water,......GOOD, they will be back for 2 years and 2 years and 2 years)

Never invest feelings(Agreed, not invest, true love) just pay (Have to lah, even you start dating a local girl must pay also mah), play (Off cause lah) and go (Go home together). End day we only want to piak them (Not end of the day, is all day and everyday):D

[Farfaraway888]

I definitely listened to the advice given by all the bros here and considered carefully before I decided to proceed. Haha but not to the extent of burning up the house la bro. Haha

Bro, you are trying too hard.

It's like you are trying to teach a kid how to use the fire for cooking, but he ends up burning your house with it. HAHAHA.

[Turnip]

Some misunderstanding here. Haha actually did not pay in the first 2 months. Just some food and small gifts.

I saw this and I was wtf.
Major social faux pas.
I thought you said you already in KTV few years ?
Feels like blind cat finds dead mouse, you the blind cat for not giving money, she the dead mouse for either don't know what it happening and too shy to ask or just waiting for you to pay.
That is not gfe, its blur like fuck :cool:;)

[YoungForever]

This is quite a refreshing analysis! I do believe there is true love too. Heard a lot of bros with Vietnamese wife who previously works in the ktv.

Yes bro, many of my friends' wife are Viet, even boss (my friend) who own few KTV here married Viet girl who once work as KTV girl

[Marmots]

Some misunderstanding here. Haha actually did not pay in the first 2 months. Just some food and small gifts.

Bro.......Bro......Broooo........

I facepalmed so hard, my dude......, so hard......

613572

You did not pay her for her time and services ? Broooo......


613573


Then there is nothing wrong, and everything normal with her asking for money.
You might as well get her a T shirt that reads -

I Got Banged Raw and All I Got was This Lousy T-Shirt.

SMH, my dude, just......SMH.....

[Farfaraway888]

Haha I normally just go and drink and touch girls. I don’t add the girls previously on the chatting apps. I don’t like to chat. So this is my first time doing this sort of thing.

I saw this and I was wtf.
Major social faux pas.
I thought you said you already in KTV few years ?
Feels like blind cat finds dead mouse, you the blind cat for not giving money, she the dead mouse for either don't know what it happening and too shy to ask or just waiting for you to pay.
That is not gfe, its blur like fuck :cool:;)

[Farfaraway888]

Haha as I just replied another bro. I really thought there was some kind of love between us that I need not pay for it. Yeah maybe she was really blur as well at the start. Haha and also my first time in this kind of game. So don’t know what to expect too.


Bro.......Bro......Broooo........

I facepalmed so hard, my dude......, so hard......

613572

You did not pay her for her time and services ? Broooo......


613573


Then there is nothing wrong, and everything normal with her asking for money.
You might as well get her a T shirt that reads -

I Got Banged Raw and All I Got was This Lousy T-Shirt.

SMH, my dude, just......SMH.....

[Northern]

Just pay her the 2k, it is what you owe her.

They are here to earn a living, not fall in love.
2k for 2 months, you are already getting it on the cheap.

All these pages of wasted discussion, just because you think she could survive and make life better for her and her family back home from the scraps of your meals and affection.

:confused::confused:

[ILoveV]

TS Bro,

you are old enough la to think what you want. $2K is not a fucking big sum of money. Want to give, give. Cannot afford to give, dont give.

This kind of thing, you ask for advice. confirmed all say no. Because that's logic. But only you know how much you want to continue fucking her. Or is there true love. Who else would know.

Ask for advice then continue do what you think is wrong, of course kena gan here. Like a kid purposely do wrong things to attract attention knn

Not all ktv girls are bad. I used to think so. Got money can open their legs. But I was prove wrong. I see some brothers found good viet girls. My gf now is also viet girl who work in ktv for short while. Then I help her and she leave ktv. But it's all individual. I can say 99% only see money. That 1% is rare but is there.

[Chua Soi Lek]

Bro.......Bro......Broooo........

I facepalmed so hard, my dude......, so hard......


You did not pay her for her time and services ? Broooo......



Then there is nothing wrong, and everything normal with her asking for money.
You might as well get her a T shirt that reads -

I Got Banged Raw and All I Got was This Lousy T-Shirt.

SMH, my dude, just......SMH.....

I am thinking TS is a troll, this whole thread is a waste of time …

Btw bro, what is SMH ?

Thanks

[Marmots]

I am thinking TS is a troll, this whole thread is a waste of time …

Btw bro, what is SMH ?

Thanks

Shake/Shaking My Head.

[Chua Soi Lek]

Shake/Shaking My Head.

Thanks bro for the confirmation …

Cheers

[Chua Soi Lek]

This TS troll is quite likeable though, I have to admit he farted pretty hard at page 8. HAHAHA.

Since school holidays is over, this TS troll should be spending time doing school homework leh … 🤷‍♂️😀

[Farfaraway888]

Haha thanks bros. I have learnt my lesson and will do some homework now. 😂
Sorry if it turned out to be wasting everyone’s time here. Just genuinely seeking advice here.

[junior_cannibal]

There are many guys, be it newbie or veteran, consciously or subconsciously going to a ktv or hostess pub or HFJ, hoping to find FOC fxxx or GFE. The girls they get to meet, almost 100% only want to make easier money than working a normal day job. They are not there to find a bf or husband generally.
Of course there are some fairy tales and prince meets Cinderella stories, but those are far and few.
With the costs of living and their visa fees going much higher, they will be even more purposeful in making money.
Hence, go on to have your share of fun but don't try to bring the cow home just because you need some milk for your kopi O.

[mrgaleeo]

There are many guys, be it newbie or veteran, consciously or subconsciously going to a ktv or hostess pub or HFJ, hoping to find FOC fxxx or GFE. The girls they get to meet, almost 100% only want to make easier money than working a normal day job. They are not there to find a bf or husband generally.
Of course there are some fairy tales and prince meets Cinderella stories, but those are far and few.
With the costs of living and their visa fees going much higher, they will be even more purposeful in making money.
Hence, go on to have your share of fun but don't try to bring the cow home just because you need some milk for your kopi O.

Just curious whats the diff between going for ktv/hostess and just engaging a WL/Escort when all we want is FJ

[Northern]

Just curious whats the diff between going for ktv/hostess and just engaging a WL/Escort when all we want is FJ


Ktv/hostess can choose who to go with or if they want to go with anyone after the session. Or if they go at all that is. You don't go to ktv and expect to pay and be able to get laid.

KTV is also for people to tcss with the companionship of ladies, so sex is incidental, not primary.

It does not apply for WL/escort.

[ILoveV]

Just curious whats the diff between going for ktv/hostess and just engaging a WL/Escort when all we want is FJ

the feeling totally different

WL/escort just choose, pay and fuck. No fuss, no frills

once you play the field too long, such pay and fuck sometimes no kick. Men want feeling of hunting and chemistry.

That's why men go to massage trying to unlock different levels

go to ktv to bed the most chio ang pai. best is those that dont want go out hotel type

go to hfj hoping to move the girls enough to go hotel

go to live streaming to give presents to ask the streamer out

it's the hunt before the deed that made the fuck sweeter

[mrgaleeo]

Wah yall seem so experienced :rolleyes::eek: Seems like its all about skills when u go for KTV :eek:

[Offline]

Not skill, experience and knowledge.

KTV girls are highly independent girls.
Consider this, they left their home country to go to another country to engage in illicit work. Some, if not most, already engaged in some type of similar work in home country.

If they appear vulnerable or helpless, you would be very mistaken.
For underneath that veneer are wills of steel.
Your financial well being has no bearing on their concerns for them to achieve their goals on earning money.

Who would if your job entails you accompany people that paw you, gets you drunk and more.
And they do it day after day, away from family with no support.

Just thread lightly around them and don't fall head in.

[Hurricane88]

Not skill, experience and knowledge.

KTV girls are highly independent girls.
Consider this, they left their home country to go to another country to engage in illicit work. Some, if not most, already engaged in some type of similar work in home country.

If they appear vulnerable or helpless, you would be very mistaken.
For underneath that veneer are wills of steel.
Your financial well being has no bearing on their concerns for them to achieve their goals on earning money.

Who would if your job entails you accompany people that paw you, gets you drunk and more.
And they do it day after day, away from family with no support.

Just thread lightly around them and don't fall head in.

This comment is half correct...:)

Gals in Vietnam are tough species even though they are small built...Viet gals are no push overs and can easily stand their ground in any fights and/or quarrels...:)

[mrgaleeo]

Heard inside the KTV can do anything you want if you're skilled enough :eek: is that true never been to one

[Northern]

Once upon a time, the infamous MG.
And then there was other one in JC, viet gals with Mummy.

But that was a long time ago, at least 10 years.
I know MG is long long gone, the JC joint I only went once and got bj in room.
But because not into viets, never did go again.
I guess that place also no longer around.

[Plusvisilk]

Not skill, experience and knowledge.

KTV girls are highly independent girls.
Consider this, they left their home country to go to another country to engage in illicit work. Some, if not most, already engaged in some type of similar work in home country.

If they appear vulnerable or helpless, you would be very mistaken.
For underneath that veneer are wills of steel.
Your financial well being has no bearing on their concerns for them to achieve their goals on earning money.

Who would if your job entails you accompany people that paw you, gets you drunk and more.
And they do it day after day, away from family with no support.

Just thread lightly around them and don't fall head in.

Strongly agree with bro posted here. Money makes the call.

[Tai_zi21]

the feeling totally different

WL/escort just choose, pay and fuck. No fuss, no frills

once you play the field too long, such pay and fuck sometimes no kick. Men want feeling of hunting and chemistry.

That's why men go to massage trying to unlock different levels

go to ktv to bed the most chio ang pai. best is those that dont want go out hotel type

go to hfj hoping to move the girls enough to go hotel

go to live streaming to give presents to ask the streamer out

it's the hunt before the deed that made the fuck sweeter

Agreed with this totally… as I grow older just finding a FL doesn’t give me the thrill anymore…

It the hunt that make the game interesting 😊

[YoungForever]

TS Bro,

you are old enough la to think what you want. $2K is not a fucking big sum of money. Want to give, give. Cannot afford to give, dont give.

This kind of thing, you ask for advice. confirmed all say no. Because that's logic. But only you know how much you want to continue fucking her. Or is there true love. Who else would know.

Ask for advice then continue do what you think is wrong, of course kena gan here. Like a kid purposely do wrong things to attract attention knn

Not all ktv girls are bad. I used to think so. Got money can open their legs. But I was prove wrong. I see some brothers found good viet girls. My gf now is also viet girl who work in ktv for short while. Then I help her and she leave ktv. But it's all individual. I can say 99% only see money. That 1% is rare but is there.
Agree with you bro

[pseudonym]

much wisdom shared by senior bros. newbies should read and learn from here even before attempting ktv dating :D

[WOOHOO]

much wisdom shared by senior bros. newbies should read and learn from here even before attempting ktv dating :D

WOO UPZ 👍 👍 👍

[Chua Soi Lek]

Just curious whats the diff between going for ktv/hostess and just engaging a WL/Escort when all we want is FJ

Basically, in a nut shell, they are all prostitutes if you don’t split hair into whether they can choose they wanna bonk … ktv can have rights not to accept a bonk offer although they still use their body to earn money, let you rub their thigh, hands some let you knead their breast …

[KangTuo]

Agreed with this totally… as I grow older just finding a FL doesn’t give me the thrill anymore…

It the hunt that make the game interesting 😊

when young, being a smooth talker, not bad looking and know Viet language, i like to go JC/GL pub/KTV hunt and play KC games with the Viet FL.

As I grow older now, I have no time for such thrill. Only go look for ML in Cat1 or Cat3 shops for release. Some time due to bad habit of KC game, I try play KC game with ML to get higher tier service but also end up no time for the ECA even when they agree. Basically no night life for me as I have small kids to take care at night. By the time my kids become more independent, I will be much much older Lao kok kok. Bet will not be hunting and play KC game by then.

So to the TS, play the game while you are young and got the time to date many girls :)

[SirLance]

when young, being a smooth talker, not bad looking and know Viet language, i like to go JC/GL pub/KTV hunt and play KC games with the Viet FL.

As I grow older now, I have no time for such thrill. Only go look for ML in Cat1 or Cat3 shops for release. Some time due to bad habit of KC game, I try play KC game with ML to get higher tier service but also end up no time for the ECA even when they agree. Basically no night life for me as I have small kids to take care at night. By the time my kids become more independent, I will be much much older Lao kok kok. Bet will not be hunting and play KC game by then.

So to the TS, play the game while you are young and got the time to date many girls :)

This comments made plenty of sense and I agreed.

[Northern]

Talking about KC, I will share my very corny KC lines.
Its all in chinese but I will translate it to English.

Where are you from ? (Asking the girl)
Ahhs, are there any historical sites, ancient monuments ?
(chat chat chat)
One day I want to go there and look at those places.
(Maybe 1 in 2, or 1 in 3 will say, when you go, contact me and I will bring you around.)
I will then ask, Will you then hold me hostage, tie me up, ravage my body mercilessly till your heart's content ?
(Girl laughs and say of course no)

I will look at the girl with a sad and serious face.
那我去了还有什么意思 ? :D:D

90% success rate of initial KC.(10% of the time)

I do use those lines, it establishes your interest in where she is from, as well as that you are a humorous person.

[chaoslord]

It is important to separate emotions when it comes to KTV girls. The thread title has the word "dating" which is the wrong approach in my view. What you have is a physical transaction mixed in with GFE. Seldom is this long term as the realities of life sets in. Enjoy the company for what it is worth - you are young and having such experiences is worth it. The amount of $$$ is subjective as each bro has a different level of spending power. My advice

- Keep things transactional. Always a monetary transaction where you have a willing buyer and seller. I go by the saying "Free things I cannot afford". To those that say they get free fucks and all that, all I can say is that eventually the debt needs to be repaid and you might not be able to afford it when it comes calling

- Enjoy the company and the experiences that comes with it. But do not imagine there is a happily ever after to things. Remember that these girls come here for money. They are human too and can fall in love but that is going down a rabbit hole that few of us here have the emotional strength and maturity to overcome. Remember that they see over 100 men in a month which equates to 1,000 men in a year. What makes you so special? And even if you are, are you accepting of multiple men banging the brains out of your girl EVEN if it is in the past. A leering stare from a stranger would make you think that the john has banged your girl and before you know it jealousy rears its ugly head. We mind fuck ourself to a state of paranoia.

- I have had my fair share of KTV girls that are in committed relationships (real marriage not fake) with SG guys and I still get to bang them. I am sure they love their husbands and all but it's monetary at the end of the day.

Don't get entangled up in the emotional cobweb of girls in nightlife. Enjoy the ride but remember that they are called ladies of the night for a reason. Always, always put yourself and your needs first.

[junior_cannibal]

Very wise and good advice.
However, even the so called veteran cheongsters might one day meet their match that could get them deep in the rabbit hole you mentioned, or the gongtao thingy one might not believe exists.
When young, have some money, not too bad looking and speak well, might get more GFE from the hostesses or GL, but once go overboard, the consequence can be detrimental and damaging, especially if attached or married, with or without kids.
These foreigners that come to Singapore are here to make money. It's bad karma even if we try to kc them to let them think we can marry them or give them and their families back home a good life.
What goes around comes around, it's only a matter of when and how.

[naemlo]

So to the TS, play the game while you are young and got the time to date many girls :)

Those were the good old days... :D

[KangTuo]

Those were the good old days... :D

the good old days...
this place pop up as Heritage in my fb :D
616073

[Chua Soi Lek]

I have had my fair share of KTV girls that are in committed relationships (real marriage not fake) with SG guys and I still get to bang them. I am sure they love their husbands and all but it's monetary at the end of the day.
Actually, we are all human beings, i have also seen some veteran cheongster giving advice to younger youngsters not to fall in love and how to play the game only for them to meet their match & also fall in the trap.

Once you started to have abit of jealousy feelings when she’s being bonked by others or going to work to be bonked or raba by others, then it’s a sign that you are beginning to lose the game …


Don't get entangled up in the emotional cobweb of girls in nightlife. Enjoy the ride but remember that they are called ladies of the night for a reason. Always, always put yourself and your needs first.
Correct, they are in this line for a certain purpose and falling in love with you is certainly not one of them but making you think she is, is one of them … remember, whatever she says to you, she will say to other 1,000 men …

My 2 cents …

[KangTuo]

Don't get entangled up in the emotional cobweb of girls in nightlife.

Easier said than done when you really met a viet girl that checks all the boxes

Very wise and good advice.
However, even the so called veteran cheongsters might one day meet their match

Actually, we are all human beings, i have also seen some veteran cheongster giving advice to younger youngsters not to fall in love and how to play the game only for them to meet their match & also fall in the trap.

Can say that I being a veteran or old hand in KC and dating viet girls from pub/ktv do also meet my match several times. There are few viet girls I was crazy about. Luckily during the cheonging days, I had a whole big group of SBF bros from the All Vietnam Related TCSS thread that we support each other.

[KangTuo]

With the costs of living and their visa fees going much higher, they will be even more purposeful in making money.


Though not in ktv scence for very long already. I believe these days all the girls who work in ktv are on work passes. They paid for the expensive passes so it make them more purposeful in making money.

Not like the good old days where most come on social visit pass 1-2 month. Low cost to date them. Bring them to the beach after their round of pub hopping, they are very happy liao :)

Good luck to those who cheong these days. I think it should not be so easy to date a ktv girl if you do not have the $$$ these days.

[Rarestofrare]

the good old days...
this place pop up as Heritage in my fb :D
616073

Legendary place :D One of the best times of my life

[Chua Soi Lek]

Easier said than done when you really met a viet girl that checks all the boxes

Agreed, it’s easier said than done … that’s why must try to cut off communication once there are signs that you are going to lose it bcos it’s like drugs …



Can say that I being a veteran or old hand in KC and dating viet girls from pub/ktv do also meet my match several times. There are few viet girls I was crazy about. Luckily during the cheonging days, I had a whole big group of SBF bros from the All Vietnam Related TCSS thread that we support each other.
Yes, once you are crazy about her & start to have feelings for her, logic doesn’t come into place anymore & you’ll do incredible things just win her …

[Amor]

the good old days...
this place pop up as Heritage in my fb :D
616073

The very first ktv I went to, ended up prefer ssh.
Those times until 2am+, go down coffeeshop to have supper, or walk a bit to have the hor fun or frogs legs.

Only later did I hear of stories of the legendary MG, but no longer around.

[Hurricane88]

Those were the good old days... :D

You still thinking of good old days.

In Xiamen thread you admitted you ageing.

the good old days...
this place pop up as Heritage in my fb :D
616073

A ktv that started bbbj within 30 mins for all 3 of us...:)

[junior_cannibal]

Easier said than done when you really met a viet girl that checks all the boxes





Can say that I being a veteran or old hand in KC and dating viet girls from pub/ktv do also meet my match several times. There are few viet girls I was crazy about. Luckily during the cheonging days, I had a whole big group of SBF bros from the All Vietnam Related TCSS thread that we support each other.

That's good. Brotherhood is important, also to remind each other about the KC trap.
We all need to pay some fees in kind to smarten up. Most importantly, we remain as one piece and not cui.

[junior_cannibal]

The very first ktv I went to, ended up prefer ssh.
Those times until 2am+, go down coffeeshop to have supper, or walk a bit to have the hor fun or frogs legs.

Only later did I hear of stories of the legendary MG, but no longer around.

I also prefer SSG. Not quite a Viet fan. Too Commando for me. The life of cheonging, my Viet encounter well within 10 fingers. Whereas the ATB, should be 百人斩＋

[Amor]

I also prefer SSG. Not quite a Viet fan. Too Commando for me. The life of cheonging, my Viet encounter well within 10 fingers. Whereas the ATB, should be 百人斩＋

Viets are ok for me, but being unable to communicate smoothly was a barrier.
Once met a viet at another small ktv at geylang, she was a chinese translator. Besides can tell chinese is not her first language, her chinese was very good. She was in full length dress, told me I was her first customer in sg, and she was very nervous.
Later brought her for supper, after go 7-11. She see everything say very expensive, ask me if can buy a $6 chocolate for her.
Bought for her and she was very happy.

Days later she called me and I met up with her again.
All I can say, she adapted very quickly to new life.

[junior_cannibal]

Viets are ok for me, but being unable to communicate smoothly was a barrier.
Once met a viet at another small ktv at geylang, she was a chinese translator. Besides can tell chinese is not her first language, her chinese was very good. She was in full length dress, told me I was her first customer in sg, and she was very nervous.
Later brought her for supper, after go 7-11. She see everything say very expensive, ask me if can buy a $6 chocolate for her.
Bought for her and she was very happy.

Days later she called me and I met up with her again.
All I can say, she adapted very quickly to new life.
You just missed a gem if you didn't makan her on her day 1.
She either needed to adapt super fast or she would be either miserable or found her way home. Most would adapt fast as they carried a big load of debts to pay off.

[Banaber]

Not like the good old days where most come on social visit pass 1-2 month. Low cost to date them. Bring them to the beach after their round of pub hopping, they are very happy liao :)


heng ah, bring them to beach still very happy haa~

[Northern]

Long time have not been to Geylang KTVs, stopped even before covid.

Maybe time to step back into the scene.

Farfaraway888 Which KTV was your girl from ? :D

[junior_cannibal]

Though not in ktv scence for very long already. I believe these days all the girls who work in ktv are on work passes. They paid for the expensive passes so it make them more purposeful in making money.

Not like the good old days where most come on social visit pass 1-2 month. Low cost to date them. Bring them to the beach after their round of pub hopping, they are very happy liao :)

Good luck to those who cheong these days. I think it should not be so easy to date a ktv girl if you do not have the $$$ these days.

Not sure about Viet, the PRC ones are either on those business visa that tagged to ghostly companies or singer visa tagged to certain HFJ. Even the latter ones may moonlight in HH in ktv to make more money.
You are right their coats not low, need to work very hard, so impossible to provide GFE, needless to say, FOC sex. Now even butterfly costs $150 at joints that have mms or $300+ for booking. Crazy fees, yet unlikely to have home run or happy ending without now damage to wallet.

[Rarestofrare]

Not sure about Viet, the PRC ones are either on those business visa that tagged to ghostly companies or singer visa tagged to certain HFJ. Even the latter ones may moonlight in HH in ktv to make more money.
You are right their coats not low, need to work very hard, so impossible to provide GFE, needless to say, FOC sex. Now even butterfly costs $150 at joints that have mms or $300+ for booking. Crazy fees, yet unlikely to have home run or happy ending without now damage to wallet.

What to do... best is to go vietnam to enjoy the scene got more STUFF you can do there :rolleyes:

[Chua Soi Lek]

What to do... best is to go vietnam to enjoy the scene got more STUFF you can do there :rolleyes:

What are the “more STUFF” that you can do in Vietnam that other countries cannot ?

Vietnam already have a handicapped because according to their law, the local girls cannot go in to the hotel room and stay with a foreigner, which makes tarbao the girl as flouting their law …

… so such restrictions in Bangkok or China …

[Rarestofrare]

What are the “more STUFF” that you can do in Vietnam that other countries cannot ?

Vietnam already have a handicapped because according to their law, the local girls cannot go in to the hotel room and stay with a foreigner, which makes tarbao the girl as flouting their law …

… so such restrictions in Bangkok or China …

Stuff that makes you fly high high....but staying with foreigner im pretty sure there are ways around it :D

[KangTuo]

What are the “more STUFF” that you can do in Vietnam that other countries cannot ?

Vietnam already have a handicapped because according to their law, the local girls cannot go in to the hotel room and stay with a foreigner, which makes tarbao the girl as flouting their law …

… so such restrictions in Bangkok or China …

Airbnb alot of condo. Why need book hotel?

[Banaber]

get drunk & high at vb house or air bnb with few vbs surely. hotel is no go.

[SirLance]

get drunk & high at vb house or air bnb with few vbs surely. hotel is no go.

Seems like very shiokiiiing!!!

[YoungForever]

What are the “more STUFF” that you can do in Vietnam that other countries cannot ?

Vietnam already have a handicapped because according to their law, the local girls cannot go in to the hotel room and stay with a foreigner, which makes tarbao the girl as flouting their law …

… so such restrictions in Bangkok or China …

Bro, not true leh, I had Tabao in Vietnam, BBK and China so many times liao

[Chua Soi Lek]

Airbnb alot of condo. Why need book hotel?

So, Vietnam’s law to eradicate prostitution only stipulates that Vietnamese girls cannot be in the hotel room with foreigner (unless married). This law doesn’t apply to private residence, condos & Airbnb ?

Thanks

[KangTuo]

So, Vietnam’s law to eradicate prostitution only stipulates that Vietnamese girls cannot be in the hotel room with foreigner (unless married). This law doesn’t apply to private residence, condos & Airbnb ?

Thanks

Vietnam got law? can bribe then no law.
Alot of 3 star hotel can bring girls in lah.
My preference is Airbnb condo compare to hotel

Though I have not whoring in VN for many years. Everytime i go VN with family, i will book condo with pool for stay. Can see girls in bikini taking photos at the pool, can also see many girls high on drug

[Amor]

You just missed a gem if you didn't makan her on her day 1.
She either needed to adapt super fast or she would be either miserable or found her way home. Most would adapt fast as they carried a big load of debts to pay off.

Thats why went to 7-11, have to buy protection.
Too bad it was at a busy period in life, or else would have met her more often before her adaptability kicked into high gear.

Except that she was very wet, don't remember much else, must have been nice tho :)

[Banaber]

So, Vietnam’s law to eradicate prostitution only stipulates that Vietnamese girls cannot be in the hotel room with foreigner (unless married). This law doesn’t apply to private residence, condos & Airbnb ?

Thanks

it takes cong an much more effort to tackle these apartments than a hotel with a readily available register. hence where to fish?

[junior_cannibal]

Thats why went to 7-11, have to buy protection.
Too bad it was at a busy period in life, or else would have met her more often before her adaptability kicked into high gear.

Except that she was very wet, don't remember much else, must have been nice tho :)

Nice.
Always great to draw the 1st blood from this kind who's new to the trade. Anyway, also not that innocent lor, first few days of work already went hotel for bonk.
If nice should have some collection de.
Very wet either cause she's easily wet, she's horny or you're good in bed lor. 👍👍

[Chua Soi Lek]

Vietnam got law? can bribe then no law.

Hahaha


Alot of 3 star hotel can bring girls in lah.
My preference is Airbnb condo compare to hotel

Though I have not whoring in VN for many years. Everytime i go VN with family, i will book condo with pool for stay. Can see girls in bikini taking photos at the pool, can also see many girls high on drug

Looks like condo is the way to go if wanna tarbao 24 hours …

[Chua Soi Lek]

it takes cong an much more effort to tackle these apartments than a hotel with a readily available register. hence where to fish?

Why the Vietnamese girl very difficult to get into the condo leh ?

Thanks

[KangTuo]

Why the Vietnamese girl very difficult to get into the condo leh ?

Thanks
he mean police (cong an). not the girls

[Amor]

Nice.
Always great to draw the 1st blood from this kind who's new to the trade. Anyway, also not that innocent lor, first few days of work already went hotel for bonk.
If nice should have some collection de.
Very wet either cause she's easily wet, she's horny or you're good in bed lor. 👍👍

Very wet maybe cause long time dry ?
I'm not bad, but not that good until normal touch touch can be that moist.

Honestly miss those days of SSH, until towards the end not so good.
Girls got room don't go in, sit outside at the sofa, quite often find my mia 1-2 hours girls there.

[Chua Soi Lek]

he mean police (cong an). not the girls

Oh, oops my bad 🤦‍♂️

Thanks for correcting me …

[sc slayer]

Very wet maybe cause long time dry ?
I'm not bad, but not that good until normal touch touch can be that moist.

Honestly miss those days of SSH, until towards the end not so good.
Girls got room don't go in, sit outside at the sofa, quite often find my mia 1-2 hours girls there.
Returned +22:cool:

[Chua Soi Lek]

HCM or Hanoi more happening ?

[naemlo]

the good old days...
this place pop up as Heritage in my fb :D

BS and NSH, spent too much in term or $$ and tadpoles there. :D


You still thinking of good old days.

In Xiamen thread you admitted you ageing.


Ya old, I still travel around regularly but like Cinderella, need to go back hotel to sleep early. :D

[naemlo]

HCM or Hanoi more happening ?

HCMC without guide but if u have a guide then Hanoi is good.

[Farfaraway888]

Haha still interested to know after so long. Lol it’s not a popular ktv.

Long time have not been to Geylang KTVs, stopped even before covid.

Maybe time to step back into the scene.

Farfaraway888 Which KTV was your girl from ? :D

[Chua Soi Lek]

HCMC without guide but if u have a guide then Hanoi is good.

How much do you have to pay the guide in Hanoi ? Will the guide find girls for you ?

Thanks

[Hurricane88]

Ya old, I still travel around regularly but like Cinderella, need to go back hotel to sleep early. :D

Process of gracious aging...:)

HCMC without guide but if u have a guide then Hanoi is good.

You still volunteer your guide..:)

How much do you have to pay the guide in Hanoi ? Will the guide find girls for you ?

Thanks

[KangTuo]

another good piece of advice.
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNY3nuV4/

[Chua Soi Lek]

How much do you have to pay the guide in Hanoi ? Will the guide find girls for you ?

Thanks

Anyone oldbird can help with this, thanks so much …

Thanks again

[Xster]

Anyone oldbird can help with this, thanks so much …

Thanks again

Better off reading and asking in international domes.

or this
https://sbfsg.social/showthread.php?t=145734

I have been planning a short solo escape and looking through myself.

[Hurricane88]

Anyone oldbird can help with this, thanks so much …

Thanks again

Dun think there is any guide in Hanoi...unless you register for local tours...but that was fro sight seeing...:)

[KangTuo]

How much do you have to pay the guide in Hanoi ? Will the guide find girls for you ?

Thanks

The way we used to find a guide is go ktv/pub to hook up a vb. When they go back to vn, we follow or plan a date to visit them in vn. They will be the 24 hour guide. Don't need find girls :D

[voram93]

visit them in their county

[YoungForever]

The way we used to find a guide is go ktv/pub to hook up a vb. When they go back to vn, we follow or plan a date to visit them in vn. They will be the 24 hour guide. Don't need find girls :D

Go back from Singapore with her, buy her air ticket, and she will be your free tour guide

[WinterMelonTree]

Hi

How is it like dating a Vietnamese ktv girls ? Is it about buying gifts and giving them money ? If so, what’s the rate like for giving them money for an exclusive relationship ? I know it probably differs from girl to girl and the type of relationship, but just want to get a gauge how much will need to spend on time each month ?

First you need a good hard slap to wake up from this gongtao.

Second, you need to look into the mirror and ask yourself, do you look like Andy Lau or a kpop star? If the answer is neither, then you don't need the answer to your original questions.

[WinterMelonTree]

The way we used to find a guide is go ktv/pub to hook up a vb. When they go back to vn, we follow or plan a date to visit them in vn. They will be the 24 hour guide. Don't need find girls :D

But with so many pho shops, you don't want to just keep eating one shop only mah ;)

[KangTuo]

But with so many pho shops, you don't want to just keep eating one shop only mah ;)

saw your nice FR and photos in the vn tcss thread.
different people different stroke

Yours is just pay, fcuk and go. I prefer got kc and gfe. You change girl daily, I change girl seasonally, so it is not eating at 1 shop only :D

but at 1 shop, i can eat mutiple meals in a day. Younger days when visit vb in vn, can clocked 13 shots in a day. shoot till no cum :p

1 wake up
2 before breakfast
3 after breakfast
4 before lunch
5 after lunch
6 before teabreak
7 after teabreak
8 before dinner
9 after dinner
10 before supper
11 after supper
12 before sleep
13 middle of sleep

[WinterMelonTree]

saw your nice FR and photos in the vn tcss thread.
different people different stroke

Yours is just pay, fcuk and go. I prefer got kc and gfe. You change girl daily, I change girl seasonally, so it is not eating at 1 shop only :D

but at 1 shop, i can eat mutiple meals in a day. Younger days when visit vb in vn, can clocked 13 shots in a day. shoot till no cum :p

1 wake up
2 before breakfast
3 after breakfast
4 before lunch
5 after lunch
6 before teabreak
7 after teabreak
8 before dinner
9 after dinner
10 before supper
11 after supper
12 before sleep
13 middle of sleep

Wow 13 shots in 1 day!! you are master Ip in sex hahaha but actually i understand what you mean. issue is i find them too sticky. esp the type that picks you up from airport. once they pick you up from airport, they designated themselves as wife liao. upside is got a buddy to do non-sexual stuff together. cos not everything is about sex too hahaha:p

[KangTuo]

Wow 13 shots in 1 day!! you are master Ip in sex hahaha but actually i understand what you mean. issue is i find them too sticky.

now old is 13 days 1 shot :p
you find sticky is you hook up students. I hook up FL in pub/ktv.

[junior_cannibal]

First you need a good hard slap to wake up from this gongtao.

Second, you need to look into the mirror and ask yourself, do you look like Andy Lau or a kpop star? If the answer is neither, then you don't need the answer to your original questions.

Never short of those guys who thought they could find a real gf or wife to be in a ktv or night club. When they kenna the gongtao, they thought it ain't the looks or money that matter.
Even if the lady is a normal OL or MILF, just that that doctor who got involved with the foreign lady for the latter to be a mistress. When things turned foul, all hell break lose.
Want to play, be smart.

[damong777]

Hi

How is it like dating a Vietnamese ktv girls ? Is it about buying gifts and giving them money ? If so, what’s the rate like for giving them money for an exclusive relationship ? I know it probably differs from girl to girl and the type of relationship, but just want to get a gauge how much will need to spend on time each month ?

Exclusive relationship? Below are some fixed or variable costs

Basic expenses
Permit - 1500 to 3800 which ktv and what pass monthly
Living (accomodation) - 800 to 1500 depending on point 1 permit inclusive or not
Living (food / amenities / hp) - 800 to 1500 depending on gal

So min is 3100 to 6800

Variables
Shopping - nil to 10k a month
Pocket money = nil to 5k a month

For Shopping, then u be paying for her cosmetics (not cheap for some vb), new iPhone etc

Pocket money very subjective later I explain.

Then back to ur key qn of exclusively. Even you pay her basic and variable needs, she still have to work unless u going to settle with ktv boss on buy out. Otherwise she will still work see other men etc. Unless u go every day last session or send her home after work. Work permit 6 months and spass 2 years u can tahan or not every day till 3am. If u going down every day or 5 days a week, the cost of drinks add up is also not cheap. Furthermore she may not take your tips that day and spend the session as booking by you. In end the booking fee goes back to the Pocket money you going to give her. Alot of lao jiao dun add the booking fee or tips fee into the basic needs or Pocket money.

Honest when I hear so called gf no need tips, I just listen becuase u still need to pay in end.

Even u so call trust her, she go home message you or video call at 3am to u. U can be how sure she will not go out after wards.


If you want to bao yang better find a prc better. A vb ktv demands is too high nowdayz unless u get 1 who just come. But how much u willing to trust her.

By experience, you may be new to the scene and kena kc by a gal. Do know you may be the one or one of many guys behind her. So just take with a pinch of salt dun committ anything. Open your eyes and see.

Go vn monthly is cheaper option honestly.

[WinterMelonTree]

now old is 13 days 1 shot :p
you find sticky is you hook up students. I hook up FL in pub/ktv.

bo bian lah bro, my flavour is to eat skinny young bones that are still "under training" hehehe. but wah, hooking up fl in ktv is an expensive hobby leh :eek:

[WinterMelonTree]

Never short of those guys who thought they could find a real gf or wife to be in a ktv or night club. When they kenna the gongtao, they thought it ain't the looks or money that matter.
Even if the lady is a normal OL or MILF, just that that doctor who got involved with the foreign lady for the latter to be a mistress. When things turned foul, all hell break lose.
Want to play, be smart.

totally agree bro. maybe i'm just being altruistic, i think this dude is very misguided. if he got sense he will read all these advice and wake up automatically.

[KangTuo]

hooking up fl in ktv is an expensive hobby leh :eek:

quit the hobby very long liao :D
old liao, no more x-factor and also no time.
now want hook, is use alot $ to hook. i better spend it elsewhere since i also no time for the game anymore.

[ckmodel]

Imagine spending time and energy to xian the girl. Finally can up her then the cb got smell.

[KangTuo]

Imagine spending time and energy to xian the girl. Finally can up her then the cb got smell.

I encountered before :eek:
wasted time, 2 hour hotel and my own personal favorite pendant as gift.

[KangTuo]

Just spend money in one of the domes, F pay and Forget.
No Strings Attached.

I spend on massage and fish tank

[Chua Soi Lek]

Just spend money in one of the domes, F pay and Forget.
No Strings Attached.

Good idea, bro

[Chua Soi Lek]

Imagine spending time and energy to xian the girl. Finally can up her then the cb got smell.

I ganna once smelly cb from a prc ... walao the kkj straight away went to sleep ...

[ckmodel]

I kana a few times also. Don't know is it their lifestyle, sleep late keep drink or kana piak until got smell 🤣🤣

[benjm85]

Haha still interested to know after so long. Lol it’s not a popular ktv.

Bro is the ktv name have castle in it? Haha..

[junior_cannibal]

Got those super strong fishy smell is either some infection or the lady simply can't be bothered with their basic hygiene, or both.
The best bit is, if you ask them, they might tell you ain't all pussies smell the same.
Faint!

[dragontank]

TS.. Trust me.. It wun be just 2k a month.. 2k is just the beginning. She will ask more for more eventually and slowly suck u dry.

Once u cant give anymore.. She will dump u. Time to do damage control. Take care buddy.

[Rarestofrare]

TS.. Trust me.. It wun be just 2k a month.. 2k is just the beginning. She will ask more for more eventually and slowly suck u dry.

Once u cant give anymore.. She will dump u. Time to do damage control. Take care buddy.

Yes suddenly her parents will sick, buffalo/cow fainted, house no electricity back home :confused::eek::rolleyes:

[kt88_2]

In this world all abt monies, in real life all abt monies,if u arecgmfamillee no issues

[stunlikeveg]

Hi

How is it like dating a Vietnamese ktv girls ? Is it about buying gifts and giving them money ? If so, what’s the rate like for giving them money for an exclusive relationship ? I know it probably differs from girl to girl and the type of relationship, but just want to get a gauge how much will need to spend on time each month ?

Hi bro, how did it go? I am curious.

[Northern]

Hi bro, how did it go? I am curious.

Click on his name, select Find All Posts, and then you can see all his latest ongoings.

[Farfaraway888]

Hi bro, how did it go? I am curious.

Haha her work permit ended so she had to go back to Vietnam.we are still in contact now. Just waiting for her to come back to Singapore for a holiday so we can see each other again.

[Penguin23]

Haha her work permit ended so she had to go back to Vietnam.we are still in contact now. Just waiting for her to come back to Singapore for a holiday so we can see each other again.

Any particular reason why she did not apply for S-pass?

[Farfaraway888]

Any particular reason why she did not apply for S-pass?

I forgot what’s the amount she said but for S-pass she has to pay a lot more money compared to the work permit so she will need to earn a lot more to make money. And she doesn’t go to hotel after we got into this “relationship”, as so she claim. And so doesn’t seem easy to make money now

[Penguin23]

I forgot what’s the amount she said but for S-pass she has to pay a lot more money compared to the work permit so she will need to earn a lot more to make money. And she doesn’t go to hotel after we got into this “relationship”, as so she claim. And so doesn’t seem easy to make money now

Some realize that Singapore is really too competitive for them, so they stay in VN for a while and head for other pastures.....

If you want to know where you really stand, head over to VN to visit her and see how she welcomes you. Things become a lot clearer after that.

[SirLance]

Some realize that Singapore is really too competitive for them, so they stay in VN for a while and head for other pastures.....

If you want to know where you really stand, head over to VN to visit her and see how she welcomes you. Things become a lot clearer after that.

This I fully agree.

[Tovreo]

Going to vn to visit her is a good idea, should go. Just control the expenses.

[Farfaraway888]

Yes I am also thinking of planning a trip there. But have been quite busy with work so a bit hard to go. But hopefully can happen in the next few months ! :)

[Farfaraway888]

Some realize that Singapore is really too competitive for them, so they stay in VN for a while and head for other pastures.....

If you want to know where you really stand, head over to VN to visit her and see how she welcomes you. Things become a lot clearer after that.

Just on this topic - I think Singapore ktv tips is still high compared to other places? Feels like the ktv in other south East Asian countries has got lower tips ? But Singapore ktv is more competitive is it which is why it’s hard to earn a lot of money ?

[Hurricane88]

Yes I am also thinking of planning a trip there. But have been quite busy with work so a bit hard to go. But hopefully can happen in the next few months ! :)

Only a tree will be rooted...any others will fly there often...:)

Anybody think Vietnam is ulu place will be wrong...HCM is very modern and liberal city...:)

[pumpypump]

Just on this topic - I think Singapore ktv tips is still high compared to other places? Feels like the ktv in other south East Asian countries has got lower tips ? But Singapore ktv is more competitive is it which is why it’s hard to earn a lot of money ?

Singapore cost of living also the highest in SEA if not the World, so naturally KTV tips will be higher. Duh.

Competition will always be high when there are a lot of KTVs and girls, especially in big cities but the Ang Pai can always make a lot of money.

[junior_cannibal]

Just on this topic - I think Singapore ktv tips is still high compared to other places? Feels like the ktv in other south East Asian countries has got lower tips ? But Singapore ktv is more competitive is it which is why it’s hard to earn a lot of money ?not that Singapore ktv is more competitive, but rather for the hostesses to work here, not being Singaporean or PR, the agents charge them high visa fees that they need to recover otherwise their trip here is wasted

Singapore cost of living also the highest in SEA if not the World, so naturally KTV tips will be higher. Duh.

Competition will always be high when there are a lot of KTVs and girls, especially in big cities but the Ang Pai can always make a lot of money.costs of living and the amount of tips are related but not fully the cause. Anyway, China while it's costs of living are lower than Singapore, at least in terms of housing and cars, the ktv tips there, especially in big cities are not low. Worst, if you want to dabao the hostess back for ST or overnight.
At the end, who determines the amount of tips? It's a matter of demand and supply and depends on who's more desperate, the client or the hostess.

[stunlikeveg]

Only a tree will be rooted...any others will fly there often...:)

Anybody think Vietnam is ulu place will be wrong...HCM is very modern and liberal city...:)

I personally don't like HCM, I like Hanoi and Danang better for the cold weather. Hanoi girls are prettier too

[stunlikeveg]

Haha her work permit ended so she had to go back to Vietnam.we are still in contact now. Just waiting for her to come back to Singapore for a holiday so we can see each other again.

Thanks for the update bro. Sounds like you are almost there, I am rooting for you.

You should totally visit her like how the other bros said. I think her not being able to be back is not entirely bad news. That means she is for now out of the ktv job, and also means not so expensive for you now since her income dropped like a ton of brick

[Chua Soi Lek]

Yes I am also thinking of planning a trip there. But have been quite busy with work so a bit hard to go. But hopefully can happen in the next few months ! :)

Vietnam is so near, just go over the weekend ... tickets are cheap too ...

[Doric]

Yes I am also thinking of planning a trip there. But have been quite busy with work so a bit hard to go. But hopefully can happen in the next few months ! :)

If and when you go, just go around play play first then look for her, don't know what you may encounter :D

Why stick to 1 flower ;)

[Farfaraway888]

Thanks for all the encouragement bros. She is intending to come visit me in January. And let’s see how that goes. :) will keep you guys updated

[nothxbai]

Thanks for all the encouragement bros. She is intending to come visit me in January. And let’s see how that goes. :) will keep you guys updated

January ending soon, did she keep her promise?

[kaixiang]

I personally don't like HCM, I like Hanoi and Danang better for the cold weather. Hanoi girls are prettier too

sapport! agree with you~~ been to hanoi but not danang but i read n heard abt the middle often (settled with a hanoi wifey ;P)

lai, OP, waiting for your updates also

[SirLance]

sapport! agree with you~~ been to hanoi but not danang but i read n heard abt the middle often (settled with a hanoi wifey ;P)

lai, OP, waiting for your updates also

If you like or dislike is really up to you. Nothing can change your mind and others.

[stunlikeveg]

If you like or dislike is really up to you. Nothing can change your mind and others.

These are just conversations normal people have, sharing opinions and experiences. I don't see anyone trying to change anyone.

Just like how you are sharing your opinion right now? the only difference is you are trying to be on a high horse on SBF forum

[Penguin23]

Thanks for all the encouragement bros. She is intending to come visit me in January. And let’s see how that goes. :) will keep you guys updated

So, has she confirmed her dates for the visit?

I read from other threads ans posts, that you are not a young fella and new in this game. Surely you know by now what a Viet lady means when she says she will come to Singapore one week before Tet

For the benefit of the other readers, Tet (CNY) is extremely important for them, as much as it is for us. A girl who comes to work and earn money just one week before Tet is either in really bad financial shape, or she isn't going back for Tet at all.

Those who choose to stay in Singapore during their moat important holiday period are either not close to their families anymore or they have no more family to speak of. There are a few, who know that Tet is probably the best time to earn money in KTV. The competition are mostly gone, and chiongsters have fewer choices.

I wish you the best, whatever the outcome.

[Farfaraway888]

Hi bros. Thanks for keeping this thread alive. Haha. Yes she did come 2 weeks ago and spend a few days with me. On my side, I think my interest level also drop after she went back for that 2 months. 😬 so thinking of next steps now……..

[pumpypump]

Hi bros. Thanks for keeping this thread alive. Haha. Yes she did come 2 weeks ago and spend a few days with me. On my side, I think my interest level also drop after she went back for that 2 months. 😬 so thinking of next steps now……..

Maybe it's just not meant to be. Good, now you can move on, have fun with many people, and don't get KC so easily.

[Smee]

So you are like over her then ?
good for you, more out there.

[Farfaraway888]

Yes i have moved on from this now. And yes more things out there. Haha

[fillerup]

Hi bros. Thanks for keeping this thread alive. Haha. Yes she did come 2 weeks ago and spend a few days with me. On my side, I think my interest level also drop after she went back for that 2 months. 😬 so thinking of next steps now……..

Did you bang her or not?

[Penguin23]

Did you bang her or not?

Warao, can read between the lines right

"Spent a few days with me" = fucked her raw a few times

"No longer so interested" = feeling no longer the same, other pussies are juicier and better

[Coolhuhu]

I have dated a few ktv viet girls, first one is totally con type, not even a single word from her mouth can be trusted.
Second one is ktv/massage girl, won’t go for milt-bf but very emo, and when emo will just keep Mia. Once started relationship she stopped working.
Third one is massage girl, really a gem. Quite different from the other viet girls. But even though is a gem, I still caught her once behind my back and but I gave her one more chance. She stopped working once started relationship. So I agree with some bro here saying that maybe that culture in Vietnam is that girls can easily open legs, they dun see it too seriously.

All 3 very high maintenance, extremely high.

[deathnitez]

I have dated a few ktv viet girls, first one is totally con type, not even a single word from her mouth can be trusted.
Second one is ktv/massage girl, won’t go for milt-bf but very emo, and when emo will just keep Mia. Once started relationship she stopped working.
Third one is massage girl, really a gem. Quite different from the other viet girls. But even though is a gem, I still caught her once behind my back and but I gave her one more chance. She stopped working once started relationship. So I agree with some bro here saying that maybe that culture in Vietnam is that girls can easily open legs, they dun see it too seriously.

All 3 very high maintenance, extremely high.

So far the few I dated seems okay. In my mind i know this girls come out to work don't expect them to be saints and not f other guys for money. I dated one went to hcm find her. See all the condos she herself and her daddies bought for her. Even get to follow her buy new properties with big bag of cash..... another I dated also house damn big. So from this you know never get too serious with them just have fun while it last. Learn a lot from them actually other then sex....hahaha

[Hurricane88]

I have dated a few ktv viet girls, first one is totally con type, not even a single word from her mouth can be trusted.
Second one is ktv/massage girl, won’t go for milt-bf but very emo, and when emo will just keep Mia. Once started relationship she stopped working.
Third one is massage girl, really a gem. Quite different from the other viet girls. But even though is a gem, I still caught her once behind my back and but I gave her one more chance. She stopped working once started relationship. So I agree with some bro here saying that maybe that culture in Vietnam is that girls can easily open legs, they dun see it too seriously.

All 3 very high maintenance, extremely high.

Even non WL in hcm can fark around like nothing so nothing to those WL in Sinkapore...:)

Knew one with bf and yet can go f at night with others...then few months later married liao...hahaha...:)

[junior_cannibal]

I have dated a few ktv viet girls, first one is totally con type, not even a single word from her mouth can be trusted.
Second one is ktv/massage girl, won’t go for milt-bf but very emo, and when emo will just keep Mia. Once started relationship she stopped working.
Third one is massage girl, really a gem. Quite different from the other viet girls. But even though is a gem, I still caught her once behind my back and but I gave her one more chance. She stopped working once started relationship. So I agree with some bro here saying that maybe that culture in Vietnam is that girls can easily open legs, they dun see it too seriously.

All 3 very high maintenance, extremely high.

One thing in common, they found a AGM, why would they still wanted to work?
They could be single, married, widowed or divorced back home. Here to work to make more money to go home build new homes, buy cars or to start a business. They are not here looking for love.
So, it's rather silly or dio KC trap or GT to offer them money and gifts and think you are getting a exclusive, you only pussy. If you were them, would you want a sugar daddy ATM or several?

[Flight]

A lot of fl ktv girls in singapore already married in their homeland, they just tell their hubby that they part time waitress or factory work here.
Their hubbies also close one eye, and some really believe.

[junior_cannibal]

A lot of fl ktv girls in singapore already married in their homeland, they just tell their hubby that they part time waitress or factory work here.
Their hubbies also close one eye, and some really believe.

Alot of these foreigners who work in Singapore, their spouses probably know what the women are working as, especially if they know the amount of money they make here.
Those men are either incapable of making the similar amount or are plain lazy, if the wives or gf can make good money, they just laze around at home.

[Flight]

Alot of these foreigners who work in Singapore, their spouses probably know what the women are working as, especially if they know the amount of money they make here.
Those men are either incapable of making the similar amount or are plain lazy, if the wives or gf can make good money, they just laze around at home.

Actually tho, when I find out that fl is still married one, session always feel extra shiok, don't know why :o

[junior_cannibal]

Actually tho, when I find out that fl is still married one, session always feel extra shiok, don't know why :o

Unless the FL is very young, otherwise, they are likely to be Married, Attached, Divorced or Widowed. Hence, you will always excited. Lol

[Hurricane88]

Actually tho, when I find out that fl is still married one, session always feel extra shiok, don't know why :o

Unless the FL is very young, otherwise, they are likely to be Married, Attached, Divorced or Widowed. Hence, you will always excited. Lol

In 2016...one gal selling peanuts and quail eggs in hcm was 15 yo with 2 kids...:)

So how young is too young...never underestimate the Viet...:)