My story

[chubbybastard]

Since I always comment on other people thread maybe I should share mine as well. WOT though so be forwarned.

I am in my mid/late 40s, single, chubby, live in my own 4 room resale HDB alone and have a stable job until I was laid off about 9 months ago. Have some savings (about $200k) but that's not the point. Had several relationships in the past but none made it more than 6 months. Had vietnam, thai, malaysian, chinese and indo gf and of course tonnes of paid sex aka hookers but after 2-3 months of relationship and sex I just get bored. Most, if not all are not very fun in bed or maybe i have a warped perception of "fun" in bed. Plus I don't find having penetrative sex particularly exciting after the age of 35. I prefer role play ending with mutual masturbation these days. On the bright side, no risk of unwanted pregancy. Lol.

As I was jobless with too much time on hand and some money, i turned to my fetish now turned obsession with public nudity and BDSM (master slave role play). I drift deeper into the black hole with every passing day. Even paid to watch videos online.

Anyway 6 months ago, while I was holidaying in Bangkok, I come across this thai girl on dating platform (tinder if not mistaken) and got hooked. She was into public nudity and is a submissive. I was like, this can't be real. I can't be this lucky. Some scam maybe. But I took a chance and agreed to meet in a shopping mall in Siam Paragon. So that I can bail out if things don't seem right.

Lo and behold she is real! A fair thai milf in her mid 30s, slender. Chatted with her for a bit in a cafe and found out she is in it for the money. Which is totally fine by me. She wanted to be my sugar baby for $2k per month (that's Singapore dollars btw) not cheap by Thai standards. Gave it a thought but I concluded what the heck, give it a try for a month and see how.

But boy she was everthing I have fantasized about and more. I can't never forget all the daring public nudity she did, like wearing miniskirt with no panties and bra teasing me and on lookers with her fully shaven pussy. Or stripping and running naked in the middle of the night in Lumpini park (not sure if there are cameras). Or stripping naked with a collar and leash when she enters my airbnb house calling me "master" and me walking her around the house on all fours like walking a dog. Just like Japanese AV. Absolutely blew my mind.

Needless to say, what is by right a month long holiday in Bangkok turned to 2 months and then 3 then 4. But the cost is a real killer. $2k per month allowance + airbnb + shopping, eating out, travelling within thailand took its financial toll as my savings depleted much faster than I anticipated. Decided to wake up on the 4th month and end the arrangement with her. Returned to Singapore thereafter.

Its been 2 coming 3 months that I'm in Singapore now. Still have not found a job. Still jobless. Doing grab food to earn a few dollars to buy cai fan. But I can't get her off my mind. I really can't concentrate on anything else. I even dream about the times we had constantly. Its like I am going crazy. Never felt this way about any girls throughout my entire life. I am even contemplating selling off my HDB taking all my money and just live out my life in Bangkok with her but I know its stupid. Its not feasible nor will it last because the money will eventually run out and she gonna leave my broke ass but I can't help thinking and its driving me crazy.

Any bro has experienced something similar and any advise? Please don't ask me to get a decent girl and get married because that just won't work for me. Besides I don't know any decent girl who are into public nudity and BDSM.....

[0541774]

Just go back and continue where u left off. Find a job in Thailand too. How many more years can u afford to waste? Just do it.

[fallen11]

your mistake is thinking $200k is "some money".

what you can do now is make enough money first, so you can play without worries in future with all the time you have left in your life. Still need to make out a play budget to stick to of course.

Have a target savings or passive income to reach for. then just enjoy the fruits for the rest of your life.

your $200k savings could have doubled in 5 years' time, before putting in additional savings. look how it compounds. You could be in early retirement within 10 years if you didnt make that mistake.

[chubbybastard]

Just go back and continue where u left off. Find a job in Thailand too. How many more years can u afford to waste? Just do it.
Is it easy to find a job in Thailand considering I don't speak read or write thai? Hmmm....that never crossed my mind but you make a good point.

[0541774]

Is it easy to find a job in Thailand considering I don't speak read or write thai? Hmmm....that never crossed my mind but you make a good point.

If u can do grab in sg, pretty sure u have no issues finding a job there.

[Needsomeadvice]

Rent out your hdb
Move to Thailand

[Pictionary]

Teaching ts about life

[chubbybastard]

Ok, understand decent job not easy to find. To really survive in sg, need to be handy man cum project cum hands-on_testing cum programmer cum security cum sales. Also having a specialisation in a particular field is not easy.

Need to make plans for myself. I want to find a relaz job to retire well. It takes one slight mistake for early retirement. Sometimes it is really selling oneself life to the company.
I wouldn't put it that way.
If your sole purpose is to look for a job, like any job, it is actually easy to get in Singapore. But good jobs with good culture and good bosses are mighty difficult to get.

I do admit I am abit picky about jobs. But I am not complaining about being jobless, far from it. I'm perfectly happy to do grab coz mental health is more important to me than money.

[Pictionary]

Show ts the way of life

[East]

Rent out your hdb
Move to Thailand

This is the best middle ground isn't it ?

What you do lose is your active income when you are employed in Singapore.

And you should know, a buffet, no matter how good, loses it appeal over time if you have it every day.
But if you only dip in from time to time, then the buffet will always be something for you to look forward to.

[Pictionary]

---Assume u have read, always look w a positive outlook in life. It's v tough down the road. If u happen to survive down the road, just say thanks to god. It's the god's grace that help you, not me. In fact i just lost my bag and found it again. It's god's grace that helps me to understand the cleaning aunties tough hardships. In fact the cleaning aunties are the true heroes, not me.

[expatamerican]

Why dont you get a decent job in Singapore and fly her up here every month or two? You said you stay alone so there is no hotel cost or any other major expense other than a cheap air ticket and whatever you decide to pay her. I bet you could get her to come up one week a month for $500 or so. Long term affordable also.

[havana]

If I am U, I would rent out my M/B and 1 bedroom.. getting around $2k per month:rolleyes: I wont touch my savings. Then I will get a temp job and work for a month or 2. Temp job should be easy to find.. After that I can go Thailand live a few months until the salary & rental delplete then come back SG and repeat the cycle again;)

[chubbybastard]

Why dont you get a decent job in Singapore and fly her up here every month or two? You said you stay alone so there is no hotel cost or any other major expense other than a cheap air ticket and whatever you decide to pay her. I bet you could get her to come up one week a month for $500 or so. Long term affordable also.

That would cost even more, no? I am still looking for a decent job but its hard to come by. I'm in a specialized field so its not that simple.

Besides, she did say that she wants a more "long term" sugar daddy/ sugar baby arrangements i.e. not those 1 week or 1 month kind. Otherwise there are no promises she will be available if she manages to finds another long term sugar daddy.

[chubbybastard]

And you should know, a buffet, no matter how good, loses it appeal over time if you have it every day.
But if you only dip in from time to time, then the buffet will always be something for you to look forward to.
That is indeed true. But right now she's the only thing on my mind. Like the craving of your favourite food. Actually more like addiction to drugs. I'm having withdrawal symtoms!

[Pictionary]

Seeking proper life advices in a dubious sex forum is not a proper way of seeking help. This dubious is what peanadood said. So to seek proper advices, need to talk to v close frens. Yes, there will be conflicts w distance frens. However, there shall not be any consequences. That is the consolidated advice i give to you. Because i made too many cyber enemies here, boy and girl. The cyber girl will definitely not want to meet and know me, even if i private message, I will bet 100% w my life.

I hope u understand what i talking. It's definitely going to cost my life again in this global forum to advise again, and as again the cyber girls and women are going to bar/blacklist me again permenantly, be it online or real meetup. I really have no mood to listen and talk to them. If u still persist to carry on like that /w receiving any grace, then i can say... pray for real miracles to help you. That's the facts of life which i have ex myself, do not expect similar characters w similar life exp to advice you. They do and cannot talk to you in similar fashion.

Never try, n learn.

[Turnip]

I am around your age group. But luckier in that I have someone by my side.
I suggest you just dip in from time to time.
At our age, we cannot afford to make this type of mistake, which can lead to financial insecurity down the road.
Enjoy now, worry later is no longer for us.

Proceed with abundance of thought and caution.

[chubbybastard]

I am around your age group. But luckier in that I have someone by my side.
I suggest you just dip in from time to time.
At our age, we cannot afford to make this type of mistake, which can lead to financial insecurity down the road.
Enjoy now, worry later is no longer for us.

Proceed with abundance of thought and caution.

More like financial ruin. That's why I pulled myself out after month 4 of absolute heavenly bliss and force myself to come back to Singapore and face reality. Because I know if I continue down this rabbit hole to hell, in the next 24 months I'll exhaust all of my $200k savings. And then I'll be forced to sell my flat and its a matter of time I'll end up broke, alone and living on the streets. But I'll be a happy and satisfied broke ass bastard having savoured life to its fullest living my lifetime fantasies.

But I choose being an old, miserable, jobless and lonely bastard but not yet completely broke and still have a flat to live in, in Singapore.

Don't know which is worse....

[Pictionary]

Cleaning my computer now. Actually i trying to do my vs abit. Got my sources, need to extend my screen to go on video training as i code.

I also v tired doing these. U know ah, the malay naysayers and always like to talk cheap and aim me, chio zharbor dun want to hug me chest to chest. What can i do? Act young, cute or innocent in front of chio zharbors?

Just now, got a chio zharbor smile at me. I also think, okay i aldy v tired looking. Dun smile at me, give the smile to others. Most likely she will suck my yin qi instead of me sucking her yang qi. I know ah, these chio zharbor quiet behaviours can attract other potentially young guys. U know ah, they can look at horoscope too. Too exhausted to think about it.

[East]

That is indeed true. But right now she's the only thing on my mind. Like the craving of your favourite food. Actually more like addiction to drugs. I'm having withdrawal symtoms!

Its because you have nothing to occupy your mind right now and you have too much spare time.
You need to fill those time up, brisk walking, jogging, find another part time job, whichever.

The reason you are asking is because you know doing what you want will lead you to ruins.
You know better within you.

[Turnip]

But I choose being an old, miserable, jobless and lonely bastard but not yet completely broke and still have a flat to live in, in Singapore.



At the end of the day, we need to be able and prepared when opportunity comes.

And yours will inevitably come, but not if you keep wallowing in self despair.
If I were in your shoes now, I would rent out some rooms, and go tour China's mountainous regions, particularly 凉山， SiChuan.

I wouldn't go expecting to have encounters, but just to experience something different.
As with going to any foreign places, always with caution.

[samster101]

That is indeed true. But right now she's the only thing on my mind. Like the craving of your favourite food. Actually more like addiction to drugs. I'm having withdrawal symtoms!

I feel you bro. I am slightly older than you. Was into exhibitionism at around your age. Exhibiting her, not me, of course haha. Fortunately (or unfortunately) my partner is my wife. So I can understand your frustration of not being able to scratch that itch. :(

Cant advise you much. Maybe we can pm to share what our partners did

[KangTuo]

Any bro has experienced something similar and any advise?

But right now she's the only thing on my mind. Like the craving of your favourite food. Actually more like addiction to drugs. I'm having withdrawal symtoms!

You have been enjoying for the past 3-4 months with her. Its common that you will keep thinking about it and wanting to continue when you came back to sillypore. Just concentrate on doing other things and carry on the usual life that you have prior the "holiday". The thought of her will diminish in a month or two.

I had withdrawal symptom from emotional detachment as well. Just got to move on.

anyway it is just the lust that you look for in her. Even if continue longer term, you will get bored lah. Everyday eat rice also boring, need to change dishes.

[Samanthanaughty]

Yea, do try to move on.

[havana]

I am curious to know how much did U spend in total for these 4mths?:confused:
Did she move in with U in the AirBnB? Do U need to feed her daily?
I hope I can get a sugarbaby when I retired:rolleyes:

[GrapeFruit]

I agree with bros that you have too much time on hand.
Go take a course to upgrade or maybe learn to cook, anything to reduce your downtime.
If you take a new career path, then all your energies will be on it.

Wish you well.

[chubbybastard]

I am curious to know how much did U spend in total for these 4mths?:confused:
Did she move in with U in the AirBnB? Do U need to feed her daily?
I hope I can get a sugarbaby when I retired:rolleyes:

Bro, I recently plucked up the courage to tally up the sum. Previously don't even dare to look at my bank balance as I know it is quite abit.

To your question does she live with me? Yes. Well kind off. She takes 2 days off to go back to her kampong. And yes, i feed her, buy clothes for her - except for panties and bra - those I will never buy for her and never allow her to wear unless she on menses :), buy stuff for her family occationally make "donations" to her family members who "are in hospital/police station/owe ahlong money" the usual excuses she try to get away with. Like I say its a transactional thing, but I'm actually ok with the arrangement only thing is it burns a big hole in my small savings...

Total 4 months including airbnb rental, utilities, her "allowance", shopping, buying stuff for her, holidays with her, etc close to $40k. Or about $10k p.m. :(

[chubbybastard]

I feel you bro. I am slightly older than you. Was into exhibitionism at around your age. Exhibiting her, not me, of course haha. Fortunately (or unfortunately) my partner is my wife. So I can understand your frustration of not being able to scratch that itch. :(

Cant advise you much. Maybe we can pm to share what our partners did

I always remembered this particular daring act she did. It was etched in my mind and it was one of the best exhibitionism i experienced

It was evening time around 5 or 6pm. We were heading somewhere (can't remember for what) and we need to walk across a small park in Bangkok. She was wearing a short pink dress. Those type that barely covered her ass. No bra, no panties of course. Full commando.

Anyway as we were walking across this park, it was quiet with not many people but there were 3 or 4 Thai school boys in uniform probably around 16 or 17 years old sitting on a park bench in front of us talking to each other and I noticed them constantly gwaking at my girl.

I told my girl to give them something to remember. As we were walking towards and past them, my girl lifted up her dress to reveal her juicy bubble butt and clean shaven pussy in all its glory in front of the school boys. She has a smoking hot tight and tonned body.

Damn, you should have seem the look on those school boys faces. Their jaw literally dropped to the floor. I still remember the look on their faces. All of them stared with mouth wide open for like a good 2-3 mins before we walked past. It turns me on so much that I remembered fucking her in the toilet when we reached our destination. And this coming from me who don't enjoy penetrative sex as much these days much less in a public toilet! Shot quite abit into her pussy as well. She was literally walking around with no panties and cum in her pussy after that. The thought of that also turns me on so much

I still keep thinking about it today. Those boys might have had the greatest day and experience of their lifetime, something i only wish i had at their age. :)

[fallen11]

Bro, I recently plucked up the courage to tally up the sum. Previously don't even dare to look at my bank balance as I know it is quite abit.

To your question does she live with me? Yes. Well kind off. She takes 2 days off to go back to her kampong. And yes, i feed her, buy clothes for her - except for panties and bra - those I will never buy for her and never allow her to wear unless she on menses :), buy stuff for her family occationally make "donations" to her family members who "are in hospital/police station/owe ahlong money" the usual excuses she try to get away with. Like I say its a transactional thing, but I'm actually ok with the arrangement only thing is it burns a big hole in my small savings...

Total 4 months including airbnb rental, utilities, her "allowance", shopping, buying stuff for her, holidays with her, etc close to $40k. Or about $10k p.m. :(

your gongtao really very serious
just take it as an expensive lesson and move on. dont make the same mistake again

[demonhunter]

I always remembered this particular daring act she did. It was etched in my mind and it was one of the best exhibitionism i experienced

It was evening time around 5 or 6pm. We were heading somewhere (can't remember for what) and we need to walk across a small park in Bangkok. She was wearing a short pink dress. Those type that barely covered her ass. No bra, no panties of course. Full commando.

Anyway as we were walking across this park, it was quiet with not many people but there were 3 or 4 Thai school boys in uniform probably around 16 or 17 years old sitting on a park bench in front of us talking to each other and I noticed them constantly gwaking at my girl.

I told my girl to give them something to remember. As we were walking towards and past them, my girl lifted up her dress to reveal her juicy bubble butt and clean shaven pussy in all its glory in front of the school boys. She has a smoking hot tight and tonned body.

Damn, you should have seem the look on those school boys faces. Their jaw literally dropped to the floor. I still remember the look on their faces. All of them stared with mouth wide open for like a good 2-3 mins before we walked past. It turns me on so much that I remembered fucking her in the toilet when we reached our destination. And this coming from me who don't enjoy penetrative sex as much these days much less in a public toilet! Shot quite abit into her pussy as well. She was literally walking around with no panties and cum in her pussy after that. The thought of that also turns me on so much

I still keep thinking about it today. Those boys might have had the greatest day and experience of their lifetime, something i only wish i had at their age. :)


Bro can PM me contact ....

I promise to return you when you saved enough money .....

:)

[CookCrew]

More like financial ruin. That's why I pulled myself out after month 4 of absolute heavenly bliss and force myself to come back to Singapore and face reality. Because I know if I continue down this rabbit hole to hell, in the next 24 months I'll exhaust all of my $200k savings. And then I'll be forced to sell my flat and its a matter of time I'll end up broke, alone and living on the streets. But I'll be a happy and satisfied broke ass bastard having savoured life to its fullest living my lifetime fantasies.

But I choose being an old, miserable, jobless and lonely bastard but not yet completely broke and still have a flat to live in, in Singapore.

Don't know which is worse....

Sounds like you can speak a decent level of thai to live there for 4 months, why not use your free time to master and turn it into a professional language skill, can open up more job opportunities in bangkok..

[0541774]

I always remembered this particular daring act she did. It was etched in my mind and it was one of the best exhibitionism i experienced

It was evening time around 5 or 6pm. We were heading somewhere (can't remember for what) and we need to walk across a small park in Bangkok. She was wearing a short pink dress. Those type that barely covered her ass. No bra, no panties of course. Full commando.

Anyway as we were walking across this park, it was quiet with not many people but there were 3 or 4 Thai school boys in uniform probably around 16 or 17 years old sitting on a park bench in front of us talking to each other and I noticed them constantly gwaking at my girl.

I told my girl to give them something to remember. As we were walking towards and past them, my girl lifted up her dress to reveal her juicy bubble butt and clean shaven pussy in all its glory in front of the school boys. She has a smoking hot tight and tonned body.

Damn, you should have seem the look on those school boys faces. Their jaw literally dropped to the floor. I still remember the look on their faces. All of them stared with mouth wide open for like a good 2-3 mins before we walked past. It turns me on so much that I remembered fucking her in the toilet when we reached our destination. And this coming from me who don't enjoy penetrative sex as much these days much less in a public toilet! Shot quite abit into her pussy as well. She was literally walking around with no panties and cum in her pussy after that. The thought of that also turns me on so much

I still keep thinking about it today. Those boys might have had the greatest day and experience of their lifetime, something i only wish i had at their age. :)

U need to strike while the iron is hot. A lady like her is hard to come by again. Just follow my earlier advice.

[East]

Total 4 months including airbnb rental, utilities, her "allowance", shopping, buying stuff for her, holidays with her, etc close to $40k. Or about $10k p.m. :(

That's quite a big chunk of change, including living expenses.

Bro, hope you are keeping yourself busy and doing better now.

[chubbybastard]

Sounds like you can speak a decent level of thai to live there for 4 months, why not use your free time to master and turn it into a professional language skill, can open up more job opportunities in bangkok..

Bro, i can hardly speak thai.

[chubbybastard]

If u can afford it, then go for it since u only lived once.
How many ppl can really live happy?

But if u need to struggle for money to feed that addiction, then its best to try get out of it.
Coz eventually if u realise u are in deep debt or deep hole in the pocket and u have nothing, the girl might not stay with u still and u will lose everything.

Ya, I can't afford it as I am still jobless even till today. No income. All I have left is $150k savings and a 4 room flat. Still got $250k loan not yet settle on the flat. That's why I ended the arrangement and come back Singapore to find a job. But no luck le

[chubbybastard]

That's quite a big chunk of change, including living expenses.

Bro, hope you are keeping yourself busy and doing better now.

Thanks. Keeping busy by applying jobs, cleaning up the flat, watching porn, pcc and occasionally heading down to geylang to release....:(

[maxsee]

Thanks. Keeping busy by applying jobs, cleaning up the flat, watching porn, pcc and occasionally heading down to geylang to release....:(

Your money is going to dry up eventually. Good luck getting a job. :p

[benjm85]

Bro your situation is not bad la considered you still have some savings, is single and not much family commitment, and have a flat that you can rely on for income.
I would suggest rent out your empty rooms for income, and do some part time work, cos full time job not so easy to take leave. Then u can still go thailand and enjoy.

[chubbybastard]

Bro your situation is not bad la considered you still have some savings, is single and not much family commitment, and have a flat that you can rely on for income.
I would suggest rent out your empty rooms for income, and do some part time work, cos full time job not so easy to take leave. Then u can still go thailand and enjoy.

I considered renting out rooms but I have OCD and find it hard to live with others. I am delivering grab food now. Not much but enough to cover cai png lunch and dinner.

Now need a way to find some substantial money to go back Thailand

[Banaber]

seemed like you have two available rooms for rent. that will be substantial income liao~

[fallen11]

I considered renting out rooms but I have OCD and find it hard to live with others. I am delivering grab food now. Not much but enough to cover cai png lunch and dinner.

Now need a way to find some substantial money to go back Thailand

rent out the whole flat and move to thailand to live
your 4 room flat should be able to fetch S$4k a month rental before maintainence and taxes, in this market.

should be able to rent in thailand and live a decent life there.
If want better quality of life, move to chiangmai instead. a lot more cheaper and still have girls more than you can ever play in your lifetime.
remember you need own trannsport in thailand outside of bangkok. a new car easily cost S$20k only.

[norib]

to be honest 2k a month not much at all for sugar baby especially if she giving such good service. because my ML wanted 4k a month to be exclusive lol hahaha. maybe if I can upgrade my income to 10K or more a month I will try it for a while.

If I was in your position, just rent out flat, meet a normal girl (not in sex industry) then live in isaan. can rent house and land there for like 300/month.

[chubbybastard]

to be honest 2k a month not much at all for sugar baby especially if she giving such good service. because my ML wanted 4k a month to be exclusive lol hahaha. maybe if I can upgrade my income to 10K or more a month I will try it for a while.

If I was in your position, just rent out flat, meet a normal girl (not in sex industry) then live in isaan. can rent house and land there for like 300/month.

I can't live with others. I have OCD. That's why as much as I want to rent out my rooms I can't coz I know I'll be the landlord from hell most likely will appear on ST.

Also I don't even know what normal means anymore. To me exhibitionism, flashing, public nudity, BDSM, master slave relationship is normal. I don't think its normal to others

[Yirkin]

I can't live with others. I have OCD. That's why as much as I want to rent out my rooms I can't coz I know I'll be the landlord from hell most likely will appear on ST.

Also I don't even know what normal means anymore. To me exhibitionism, flashing, public nudity, BDSM, master slave relationship is normal. I don't think its normal to others

True, everyone has his/her own definition of normal :D