Convincing a ML to move in with you

[lonelyfish]

I live alone and have an extra room. What are the chances of you bros who manage to convince the ML to stay with you by offering not to charge for staying and give her a fixed token sum for her company and sex? What's the minimum sum you got her to accept? I don’t mind a relationship either but I know of someone who gave 2k per month to his ML. I think that's too much :eek:.

I have a ML who now offers herself to me. I want to negotiate with her to stay with me. She doesn't need to pay rent, I just want to offer a reasonable token sum to her since I don’t have to head to the spa (can skip the entrance fee :D).

[hannibald]

I live alone and have an extra room. What are the chances of you bros who manage to convince the ML to stay with you by offering not to charge for staying and give her a fixed token sum for her company and sex? What's the minimum sum you got her to accept? I don’t mind a relationship either but I know of someone who gave 2k per month to his ML. I think that's too much :eek:.

I have a ML who now offers herself to me. I want to negotiate with her to stay with me. She doesn't need to pay rent, I just want to offer a reasonable token sum to her since I don’t have to head to the spa (can skip the entrance fee :D).

She should be more than happy to just stay for free. At best, fund her daily transport to work, that is about all.

[lonelyfish]

She should be more than happy to just stay for free. At best, fund her daily transport to work, that is about all.

The ML is from a nearby spa, there is no transport cost to work haha. But if she is willing to stay over, I won't have to go to the spa anymore, then probably still need to give her some token. Of course if she don't want it, will be best :D.

[loneyheart]

Free stay will be more then enough I supposed :)
If u eat the same cai everyday won't u feel bore ? Moreover dum think u will do it everyday
Term n condition to each her own depend how u present it in a nicer words :p

[Northern]

相识容易， 相处难

As above.
Its easy to acquaint on a short time purpose driven basis.
Living together will be the hard part.

Living together, will have a lot of time for friction.
Since it is benefits driven, she will wonder and worry if you tire and want someone else, she will have to look for another place and move.

You hold all the cards, she is at your mercy on lodging.
It also may not turn out as beneficial as you want.

If you are fine with what you are getting now, then just as is.
Changes seemingly for the better may get you more than you bargained for.

[lonelyfish]

Free stay will be more then enough I supposed :)
If u eat the same cai everyday won't u feel bore ? Moreover dum think u will do it everyday
Term n condition to each her own depend how u present it in a nicer words :p

No, I won't feel bored lol. I can eat the same meal everyday but of course not do it everyday. Maybe about 3 times a week is fine. Besides ML working hours is long, I just need company sometimes.

[lonelyfish]

相识容易， 相处难

As above.
Its easy to acquaint on a short time purpose driven basis.
Living together will be the hard part.

Living together, will have a lot of time for friction.
Since it is benefits driven, she will wonder and worry if you tire and want someone else, she will have to look for another place and move.

You hold all the cards, she is at your mercy on lodging.
It also may not turn out as beneficial as you want.

If you are fine with what you are getting now, then just as is.
Changes seemingly for the better may get you more than you bargained for.

As long as my basics are satisfied, I'm fine. Probably she will be the one tired of me lol. Of course currently she treats me very nice, not sure if her mood changes later :D.

There are some benefits and disadvantages now vs moving in. Currently we do it at the spa after hours, but there is always a risk of getting caught. The benefits is of course the cleaning up. Moving in may be messier, but I can always make adjustments. And if she's adventurous, we can play more things like Nuru. Can't do that at the spa.

The time we can spend together may also be more and not limited to the timeslot. No need to pay for the entrance fee too.

[lonelyfish]

Getting her to move in is not the problem. Getting her to move out is the real issue. Some of these bitches are so emo, the whole floor will her screaming at you and throwing shit around in your flat when you ask her to move out.

Haha, haven't got this experience before. Will take note of this. Only had FWB moved out when she RTC. Of course, its because she had to return.

[cestycesty]

or you can rent your room out to a proper student or worker then use that money and fund your visit. you wont have to stick to a certain ML and get stuck with her living with you and not wanting to move out later.

you get the money and the freedom of choice on who and what to spend that money on.

[sexcision]

What if u found a girl that u really like and want to bring her back?

[AaronLeeKwok]

Getting her to move in is not the problem. Getting her to move out is the real issue. Some of these bitches are so emo, the whole floor will her screaming at you and throwing shit around in your flat when you ask her to move out.

Agreed with Bro Angmolover!

Asking MLs to live with you under rental free conditions is bad idea! MLs are money faced and untrustworthy in disguise! Who knows you will be financially ruined by her one day? :eek:

[SirLance]

Agreed with Bro Angmolover!

Asking MLs to live with you under rental free conditions is bad idea! MLs are money faced and untrustworthy in disguise! Who knows you will be financially ruined by her one day? :eek:

I also agree with you.

[FatSpider]

rent out to msia OL can kill 2 bird with 1 stone

[oxeso]

rent out to msia OL can kill 2 bird with 1 stone

Msia ol sure fuck ah? Yup.. those tenants fucked by landlord porn r nice. :D

Ts needs a partner more la.. who the fuck wants to keep calling the same chicken pls raise ur hand.. i clap for u. :D

[AnnieYJL]

I live alone and have an extra room. What are the chances of you bros who manage to convince the ML to stay with you by offering not to charge for staying and give her a fixed token sum for her company and sex? What's the minimum sum you got her to accept? I don’t mind a relationship either but I know of someone who gave 2k per month to his ML. I think that's too much :eek:.

I have a ML who now offers herself to me. I want to negotiate with her to stay with me. She doesn't need to pay rent, I just want to offer a reasonable token sum to her since I don’t have to head to the spa (can skip the entrance fee :D).

You can ask any decent girl to move in with you, based on what I've read. Why masseuse? Because she offered herself to you?

[lonelyfish]

or you can rent your room out to a proper student or worker then use that money and fund your visit. you wont have to stick to a certain ML and get stuck with her living with you and not wanting to move out later.

you get the money and the freedom of choice on who and what to spend that money on.

I did that for my FWB previously until she RTC.

[lonelyfish]

Msia ol sure fuck ah? Yup.. those tenants fucked by landlord porn r nice. :D

Ts needs a partner more la.. who the fuck wants to keep calling the same chicken pls raise ur hand.. i clap for u. :D

Of course having a partner is better. But now is don't have. Even you go to GL, you still go back to your regular to get your deprives fixed when you get shit experience from another WL.

Building chemistry and maintaining another ML when you already have a good one is a waste of resources and the new one may not offer as much as your current one, end up wasting even more resources to try another one.

[lonelyfish]

You can ask any decent girl to move in with you, based on what I've read. Why masseuse? Because she offered herself to you?

I haven't met the decent girl which I want to bring back. Local girls are NOT my type. I've been hunting overseas, until I found my target, this ML will need to fix my needs. Also, it is possible to get the ML to offer herself to me without bringing her back.

Why bring back the ML? To further reduce cost by omitting the spa fee and minimise the risk of being caught in raids during the time I don't have a partner lol. I've saved a lot ever since I had weekly overnight sessions with my other ML compared to heading to Geylang every week for a potentially lousy session. I don't give her a lot, I get an entire night (about 10 hrs) for less than a 90 min session at Geylang Cat200 without the need to head out lol.

[lonelyfish]

Agreed with Bro Angmolover!

Asking MLs to live with you under rental free conditions is bad idea! MLs are money faced and untrustworthy in disguise! Who knows you will be financially ruined by her one day? :eek:

The main objective is to reduce cost and yet getting more. I will not give her more. I will not take her if the conditions are not to my advantage. If she's not willing to accept it, I'll just keep it at the spa or let her go eventually and move on.

Of course, the risk of having her around is there, it's a gamble. I believe there are many bros around doing it already.

[superstiffy]

u tell her free all her defence will be up... unless she already ur gf then dun say...

i think u step by step better la... tell her u got room want to rent out but dunno whats market rate.. ask her how much she paying... after she tell u say 哇酱好赚 then ask her discount 20% rent to u want a not? make it like a joke la... u tiko also dun show u tiko mah...

After she move in liao then u slowly 发挥

u immediate give pple indecent proposal... wait u like pervert sex how? knn dun scare her away la.. ah boh next time u go massage there also cannot... :D:D

singapore lang really sibei impatient... simi sai also want fast fast.. go carousell jitao ask mei mei sell u her panties... end up tio ban then come here ask for advice.. nia mah...

[AUDIFANSG]

u tell her free all her defence will be up... unless she already ur gf then dun say...

i think u step by step better la... tell her u got room want to rent out but dunno whats market rate.. ask her how much she paying... after she tell u say 哇酱好赚 then ask her discount 20% rent to u want a not? make it like a joke la... u tiko also dun show u tiko mah...

After she move in liao then u slowly 发挥

u immediate give pple indecent proposal... wait u like pervert sex how? knn dun scare her away la.. ah boh next time u go massage there also cannot... :D:D

singapore lang really sibei impatient... simi sai also want fast fast.. go carousell jitao ask mei mei sell u her panties... end up tio ban then come here ask for advice.. nia mah...

He is a pervert sexual deviant lol….and from the start alrdy offer free and even offer to pay her transport service. This guy prob never been at the negotiation table before. U don show ur hands from the start, u open them slowly while getting the best possible deal for urself. And some bros mention getting in easy getting out nightmare. U better get a legal professional to do the contract for u also lol. She can wreck havoc on ur place if things go sour. Imagine she spray paint ur place, flood the bathroom, bring her clients back?

[lonelyfish]

u tell her free all her defence will be up... unless she already ur gf then dun say...

After she move in liao then u slowly 发挥

u immediate give pple indecent proposal... wait u like pervert sex how? knn dun scare her away la.. ah boh next time u go massage there also cannot... :D:D

singapore lang really sibei impatient... simi sai also want fast fast.. go carousell jitao ask mei mei sell u her panties... end up tio ban then come here ask for advice.. nia mah...

Nothing more to be pervert about lol. We are already doing it raw at the spa after (or before) the massage. It took time, so it is not fast either to build up the chemistry after quite a number of visits ... Besides, she still accepts the same 1B tips which I gave her from the beginning when I got only HJ + roam. It's probably less then many guys giving for full service or just a BJ / full roam with their ML.

I'm just looking at what's the best option to further reduce cost and have a longer time in a private space.

[lonelyfish]

He is a pervert sexual deviant lol….and from the start alrdy offer free and even offer to pay her transport service. This guy prob never been at the negotiation table before. U don show ur hands from the start, u open them slowly while getting the best possible deal for urself. And some bros mention getting in easy getting out nightmare. U better get a legal professional to do the contract for u also lol. She can wreck havoc on ur place if things go sour. Imagine she spray paint ur place, flood the bathroom, bring her clients back?

Lol, I don't have to pay for her transport fee. My previous post should already show the current stage we are in. I will consider about the part able wrecking havoc when it goes sour. At this time I only have a ML who comes occasionally for overnight only and leave in the morning.

[donut88]

You already giving her rent free. And you still want to pay her??

U v big carrot head ah?! No wonder FTs always think SG men are easiest to be conned.




I live alone and have an extra room. What are the chances of you bros who manage to convince the ML to stay with you by offering not to charge for staying and give her a fixed token sum for her company and sex? What's the minimum sum you got her to accept? I don’t mind a relationship either but I know of someone who gave 2k per month to his ML. I think that's too much :eek:.

I have a ML who now offers herself to me. I want to negotiate with her to stay with me. She doesn't need to pay rent, I just want to offer a reasonable token sum to her since I don’t have to head to the spa (can skip the entrance fee :D).

[lonelyfish]

You already giving her rent free. And you still want to pay her??

U v big carrot head ah?! No wonder FTs always think SG men are easiest to be conned.

It's not I want to pay her, of course if is free I'm more than happy. Previously I didn't pay my FWB, but this one is ML, so I don't know. I already said, I want to lower the costs, working towards to pay her nothing is of course the best.

How others think, who con who, seriously, I don't care.

[Wally]

Haiz Bro, don't better.

Even the ML also feel better not to move in.

[Westing]

I have a ML who now offers herself to me. I want to negotiate with her to stay with me.

Offer herself to you ? No need pay ?
Why want her stay with you full time, maybe 2-3 days per week ok.
Can see if have problem that way.

[lonelyfish]

Haiz Bro, don't better.

Even the ML also feel better not to move in.

I prefer overnight sessions and private place than at the spa.

[lonelyfish]

Offer herself to you ? No need pay ?
Why want her stay with you full time, maybe 2-3 days per week ok.
Can see if have problem that way.

I still give her 1B for extra while at the spa together with the unavoidable entrance fee. I'm already doing it with her at the spa about 3 times a week, so it's not like I'm having a fresh start with this ML, I just want to change the venue, remove unnecessary costs like spa fee and have overnight.

I'm considering the 2 - 3 times a week for overnight like how I did with my PRC ML previously. Just that the PRC ML generally wants more $ + need to pay for her transport since she moved to a further spa. After we did it raw for awhile, she is not comfortable to continue cuz we keep miscalculate. Not open to period sex too.

[Bangster]

Getting her to move in is not the problem. Getting her to move out is the real issue. Some of these bitches are so emo, the whole floor will her screaming at you and throwing shit around in your flat when you ask her to move out.

Best advice

[TheSpyingPerv]

Getting her to move in is not the problem. Getting her to move out is the real issue. Some of these bitches are so emo, the whole floor will her screaming at you and throwing shit around in your flat when you ask her to move out.

this is the best advice given already and the consequences stated is very REAL. What I would personally do is proper rent my room out to a couple or a single male/female tenant of my choice. I can then use all the proceeds of the rent to go visit this ML as many times as I want, I can always find other MLs when i get bored of her.

There's so many ways your idea could go wrong.
1. You eventually get bored of her, but she's stuck with u in ur house.
2. She brings guys back, totally disrespecting u.
3. You want the massage as promised, but everytime u ask, she keeps coming up with excuses saying she's tired etc.
4. She does the massage reluctantly as she has to do it as an obligation.

[lonelyfish]

this is the best advice given already and the consequences stated is very REAL. What I would personally do is proper rent my room out to a couple or a single male/female tenant of my choice. I can then use all the proceeds of the rent to go visit this ML as many times as I want, I can always find other MLs when i get bored of her.

There's so many ways your idea could go wrong.
1. You eventually get bored of her, but she's stuck with u in ur house.
2. She brings guys back, totally disrespecting u.
3. You want the massage as promised, but everytime u ask, she keeps coming up with excuses saying she's tired etc.
4. She does the massage reluctantly as she has to do it as an obligation.

Will probably at most just get her for overnights then. So far, she doesn't reject me, there is plus point doing it at the spa, no need to clean up, but I prefer overnights. And there's always a risk doing it at the spa. The spa fee is also unnecessary cost, will be good not to pay it if I want 2 - 3 times a week. Soon she may agree to come over every now and then. Actually, I thought to minimise the chance to catch funky stuff by keeping her.

Tbh, your "find other MLs" is somewhat true. I still have a very good PRC ML who will occasionally sleep overnight with me, I have her for several months already. If I keep this one here, then she can't come over anymore.

[donut88]

It's not I want to pay her, of course if is free I'm more than happy. Previously I didn't pay my FWB, but this one is ML, so I don't know. I already said, I want to lower the costs, working towards to pay her nothing is of course the best.

How others think, who con who, seriously, I don't care.


The only way not to pay her is never to pay her in the first place. U start to pay her, and u hope that later on, she will tell you no need to pay her anymore? Wait long long.

Once u start paying her, it's forever paying her. Will only go up, not go down.

The way to negotiation is offer nothing at the start. U let her stay for free is already v good for her. Don't open mouth to offer pay her.

If she ask for money, tell her that rent is free already. Let her decide

The way u think ah, v dangerous, bro. One day she will have your house ownership change to her name.

[Westing]

Tbh, your "find other MLs" is somewhat true. I still have a very good PRC ML who will occasionally sleep overnight with me, I have her for several months already. If I keep this one here, then she can't come over anymore.

Problem solved ?
Stay occasionally way better than perm stay at your place.
One day if perm stay at your place get caught, you will very likely get implicated.

[Laopizhui]

TS bro has already set his mind to let the ML stay in his house

so many bros given him good advice, yet he chose not to listen and repeat his sentences

one advice for u bro, woman working is this area of work has many levels of mask she put on. u havent see the real her yet. dont be naive

if u want to go ahead. nobody can stop u, but remember this, when things go south, nobody can help u

best prepare agreement with English and the language she knows how to read. state the terms n conditions clearly.

[zeusfist]

or you can rent your room out to a proper student or worker then use that money and fund your visit. you wont have to stick to a certain ML and get stuck with her living with you and not wanting to move out later.

you get the money and the freedom of choice on who and what to spend that money on.

solid advice. coz getting ML to move in is easy... but to move out... and eat the same cai every time like no variety also :D

[NightRun]

I understand your main intentions, can save money, have more time, which will be better quality.
But those are also things that the ML looks forward to end session.
Whether they really like us or not, they will put on show to make us feel welcome, cos they only need to entertain us for 1 hour or so.
Stay together become totally different.
That's why she is resistant.

Like many other bros, I do not recommend that you do it.
Too many serious potential downsides that any upsides is not worth.

[sammyboyfor]

I live alone and have an extra room. What are the chances of you bros who manage to convince the ML to stay with you by offering not to charge for staying and give her a fixed token sum for her company and sex? What's the minimum sum you got her to accept? I don’t mind a relationship either but I know of someone who gave 2k per month to his ML. I think that's too much :eek:.

I have a ML who now offers herself to me. I want to negotiate with her to stay with me. She doesn't need to pay rent, I just want to offer a reasonable token sum to her since I don’t have to head to the spa (can skip the entrance fee :D).

I can't think of anything more boring!!!!! :D

[tpylor8]

Keep it commercial.
Keep it legal.
Once become fwb, then the path to girl friend and wife is not far..
Like others said, you have plans for her but do you know what are her plans for you.
The reluctance may be a facade to lure you.
Don't let the little bro rule over your brain ..
Step gently into the dark

[lonelyfish]

I understand your main intentions, can save money, have more time, which will be better quality.
But those are also things that the ML looks forward to end session.
Whether they really like us or not, they will put on show to make us feel welcome, cos they only need to entertain us for 1 hour or so.
Stay together become totally different.
That's why she is resistant.

Like many other bros, I do not recommend that you do it.
Too many serious potential downsides that any upsides is not worth.

Decided to have her for overnight sessions instead. I still like to have longer time to slowly enjoy as well as a morning round. Of course, reducing the cost is part of the requirement, so gotta negotiate for that. Currently we not only fuck at the spa, sometimes it is just alcohol meetup there to drink (no need pay, just bring drinks).

[lonelyfish]

I can't think of anything more boring!!!!! :D

Haha :D. Actually, I'm quite tired to waste a lot of time and money on the landmines when I went on to explore by myself. I don't wait for FRs and ask for contacts sharing. I walked in and tried plenty of places overseas and in GL / spas. Now I rather have an enjoyable session if the same girl can satisfy me, especially if she is willing to play new stuff. Why not?

[lonelyfish]

Keep it commercial.
Keep it legal.
Once become fwb, then the path to girl friend and wife is not far..
Like others said, you have plans for her but do you know what are her plans for you.
The reluctance may be a facade to lure you.
Don't let the little bro rule over your brain ..
Step gently into the dark

Commercial, currently it is. But legal? Dono haha. Of course, I want to avoid trouble with the law. Cost and frequency wise, I would like to have a FWB again, but haven't found a replacement. This ML can currently satisfy me on a regular basis, so I'll probably use her first.

The risk of trouble is there, but isn't it the same even with gf/wife? We all have a facade, I still went to GL recently to try the soapy service and also chiong during overseas trips.

[JasonJG]

As long as my basics are satisfied, I'm fine. Probably she will be the one tired of me lol. Of course currently she treats me very nice, not sure if her mood changes later :D.

There are some benefits and disadvantages now vs moving in. Currently we do it at the spa after hours, but there is always a risk of getting caught. The benefits is of course the cleaning up. Moving in may be messier, but I can always make adjustments. And if she's adventurous, we can play more things like Nuru. Can't do that at the spa.

The time we can spend together may also be more and not limited to the timeslot. No need to pay for the entrance fee too.

If this arrangement actually happens, you can expect that after a while, the ML will be offering excuses not to do it with you. Can imagine her saying, "我上班已经那么累，下了班只想好好休息，我没有精力陪你慢慢玩这个哪个的。‘’

So there goes your wish of 3 times a week. At most you can imagine her obliging occasionally, but rushing you to quickly do it and get it over with, "我明天还要上班呢！"

[NightRun]

Decided to have her for overnight sessions instead. I still like to have longer time to slowly enjoy as well as a morning round.

Good to see you working around your original intentions.
Who knows what the future brings, maybe meet a nice girl that you can bring back and all the time you want/have.
No complications on others living in your place then.