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crazytiger
04-10-2008, 01:54 PM
Xiao Hong's sister has arrived!!!

She will be in town for 2 months. Below is her stats.

Name: Yang Yang, PRC
Age: 25
Ht: 1.61m
Wt: 45kg
Slim build (According to Xiao Hong)
Price: $70/hr for massage and HJ

According to XH, Yang Yang used to work in a Sauna back in her hometown, so she knows her massage skill.

For those bros who have supported XYZ previously, Yang Yang will be using the number of Xiao Yan Zi. For those who have not, please PM me for her number.

Please post FR after you've tried, so that other bros will have a better picture of her skill.

Note: I have not tried her service yet. The above information is provided by Xiao Hong. She will only serve Mandarin speaking customers.

crazytiger
04-10-2008, 02:22 PM
Just received a call from Xiao Hong, someone 快手快腳 has made a booking at 4pm. Please do not miss this chance, Yang Yang will only be here for 2 months.

crazytiger
04-10-2008, 02:56 PM
Bro Owen10, I tried to PM you but your mailbox is full.

jayboy
04-10-2008, 03:49 PM
bro, i did pass u rachel, now can i try this one pls ?

akaza24
04-10-2008, 07:07 PM
Just received a call from Xiao Hong, someone 快手快腳 has made a booking at 4pm. Please do not miss this chance, Yang Yang will only be here for 2 months.

Fast hand fast leg... I am the one ;), very lucky to be her veri first customer the moment she touched down our shore. She first time here, so she need Xiao Hong to even bring her to the designated hotel. below is my short FR, hope it helps

Looks : 7/10
Pleasant looking wif black long hair, wif slight resemblance to taiwan singer 侯湘婷, her looks belongs to those can bonk type lah so dun worry.

Boobs: 6/10
Small A wif brown nips, not for boobs lover. Allow auto roaming during HJ session.

Body: 7.3/10
Overall slim wif slight tummy waist fats only. Only managed to raba her top half as she wearing black pants during the massage.

Massage: 7/10
I think she new so sh give her some time to improve on this area, but can see she putting in effort to please. start from neck massage, followed by back, butt and then ur special area. Her 海底捞月 is somehow similar to Xiao hong but she got 1 added feature which include teasing ur nipple during the process. This upper n lower carassing really damn electrifying shiok. Mi didi was hard rod thruout, if she continue longer, I might explode in tat position! Anyway, was ask to turn over and she hJ me till I explode a massive cum on her hands. She slowly help me clean up b4 wash up. Following that is leg n hands massage before the hour is upped!

Attitude/Service: 8.3/10
She friendly and chatty enuff, like friends friend type. Keep asking if her massage is good enuff a not, strong enuff etc

Damage: $70 for massage+HJ, rm not include.

RTF: I think she worth it. YOu will feel very relax n comfortable wif her.

crazytiger
04-10-2008, 07:37 PM
Thanks bro akaza24 for putting up such a detailed FR. Appreciate your effort. Cheers!!!!:D

strategic
04-10-2008, 08:55 PM
get the contact from xiao hong and arrange to meet her at 6. first look not bad la. :) procced to bed and start her massage, her massage skill is not as good as xiao hong but consider she is first time here can consider good. give her some time i think she will be as good as xiao hong.:p come to the special is quite similar to xiao hong, very shiok and steam nearly explode during her hai ti lau yue. turn to front and start her hj. i start to unhook her bra and start to give her a good sucking and licking, she seem to enjoy it and start to let out nice moaning. hearing her moaning made me even more steam and she qicken her pace offload lot of cum onto her hand. wash up massage for big head which is very soothing for rest of the hour. overall is money well spend and i think she fully deserve it. :D

looks : 6.5+0.5 for her nice long silky hair
boobs : not big but is ok for me :)
hj : 7
altitude : 8.5 very friendly like long lost friend
damage : 70+tips + room
rtf : of course

fuckfuck
04-10-2008, 11:28 PM
can any bro pm her no. to me? would like to try her out. THX!:)

AK_Sam
05-10-2008, 06:21 AM
can any bro pm her no. to me? would like to try her out. THX!:)

Could not sleep well this morning, wake up this morning at 5.15 this morning still thinking of the massage session I has last nite with Yang Yang....:eek::eek

Call at 7.30 pm last nite, was very supprise I manage i can get a slot at 8pm.
Manage to get a room at 8.15pm and meet up.
Later found out that she has just touch at 5 + and I was he first customer to call..... did not know that there were 2 bro infont of me... maybe the massage was done in the aeroplane....:p

The massage was really a let down, I was getting an OJT ( On-the-job-training) session from her , can see she was very new .

She start off with back massage with oil, for about 15 minutes, ( the so so type, no strength) and attempt to do JG from behind.Ask me to turn over after 10 minutes and did some rubbing over my front and start pumping my didi, already.
At this point told very politely that she need to brush up , otherwsie she will not be able to survive, cause they are so many good one around.

Paid her $80 for a 50 mins session, after I off loaded. She hug me and say sorry, that she will pick up fast .

Stats

Look - 6, plain
Body - skinny about 1.6 m
Massage -- so so
BoB --- A very small.

Overall
She need to brush up man....

RTN
No lah , give our brothers a chance loh.


AK Sam

crazytiger
05-10-2008, 03:17 PM
Bro AK_Sam, thanks for the FR. Apologise for the unsatisfactory. Please give her sometimes to brush up her skill, I'm sure she will be as good as XH if not, better than what she has given you. Cheers!!!

fcuksam
06-10-2008, 10:04 AM
met YY & XH yesterday evening, YY's massage not too bad, of course can also improve further.

ruchucky
06-10-2008, 11:52 AM
get the contact from xiao hong and arrange to meet her at 6. first look not bad la. :) procced to bed and start her massage, her massage skill is not as good as xiao hong but consider she is first time here can consider good. give her some time i think she will be as good as xiao hong.:p come to the special is quite similar to xiao hong, very shiok and steam nearly explode during her hai ti lau yue. turn to front and start her hj. i start to unhook her bra and start to give her a good sucking and licking, she seem to enjoy it and start to let out nice moaning. hearing her moaning made me even more steam and she qicken her pace offload lot of cum onto her hand. wash up massage for big head which is very soothing for rest of the hour. overall is money well spend and i think she fully deserve it. :D

looks : 6.5+0.5 for her nice long silky hair
boobs : not big but is ok for me :)
hj : 7
altitude : 8.5 very friendly like long lost friend
damage : 70+tips + room
rtf : of course

hai, bro strategic
can pm me the YY contact number, sure will post after try, btw where to book the hotel to let her easy to come?

sumi
09-10-2008, 08:35 PM
tried YY & XH 2day n i can say the service is 2 gd to be true. Knew tat YY is trying hard but give her some time to impprove as XH is teachin her very hard.

Both service attitude: 8.5/10
Massage: XH @ 9/10, YY @ 7.5/10
Look: Both is a gd looker, 7/10
Figure: XH @ 8/10, YY @ 8/10

Damage: $140 for both, room not include

RTF: Will do so if my didi allow

Any bro need the contact can ask from the threadstarter as i got XH no, but i respect TS status so dun blame me

zheng
09-10-2008, 11:07 PM
Bro, can give me YY contact. Thanks:)

mike38
10-10-2008, 05:41 AM
tried YY & XH 2day n i can say the service is 2 gd to be true. Knew tat YY is trying hard but give her some time to impprove as XH is teachin her very hard.

Both service attitude: 8.5/10
Massage: XH @ 9/10, YY @ 7.5/10
Look: Both is a gd looker, 7/10
Figure: XH @ 8/10, YY @ 8/10

Damage: $140 for both, room not include

RTF: Will do so if my didi allow

Any bro need the contact can ask from the threadstarter as i got XH no, but i respect TS status so dun blame me

Good Morning all bros.
Good of you to have give XH a chance to teach her sister YY on you the technique of under water catch the moon ( ohh should be balls keke, joke )
any I have tried XH & XYZ and waiting for YY to season before I will get them.

enjoy as much as you can life is short.

crazytiger
10-10-2008, 06:40 PM
XH called me yesterday, she asked me whether I've given out Yang Yang's number because she said business is poor. I'm finding it funny because I've given out the number to more than 10 bros, but I only saw a few FRs on Yang Yang.

For those number collectors, I'm not sure what you can get out of it by enquiring and not booking.

For those interested, please PM me for number and better hurry up because she is only here for 2 months.

Thanks again for those who have supported Yang Yang and put up FRs on her service. For XH's regulars, while supporting Yang Yang,don't forget to support XH also.

Cheers!!!!!

cordon
10-10-2008, 09:12 PM
Sorry bro, got the no from u but no time to book a session with her...will find time to book this coming next week...I promise!!;)

cassanova
11-10-2008, 06:10 PM
get the contact from bro crazytiger. look not bad but her hair long sia.. procced to bed and she start to massage, her skill not bad..thumbs up. the killer stunt "hai ti lau yue" sibei song:D. after that turn to the front let her hj n she also touch my nipples. after a while off came my bullets.....:D

looks : 6.5
boobs : not big
hj : 8
damage : 70 + room
rtf : will try XH next rd;)

fungoer
12-10-2008, 12:01 PM
thanks bro crazytiger for the contact. managed to book her at L81.

Look: 6.5/10. Nice & pleasant. Slim but little fat at tummy.

Atitude: Nice & friendly. Chatty. Sweet smiles & cheerful.

Boobs: 6/10.

Massage: 7.5/10. Quite enjoyed her massage. Put in lots of effort. Felt relieved.

Hj: 8/10. It was the signature HDLY. Shiok!

Damage: $70 + $10 tips + room

RTM: maybe another GST Credit :D

Shi San
13-10-2008, 12:58 AM
thnx bro ts for yy's contact. in fact, i tried xyz last time & hence got yy's contact since it's same. had a session w her today & my fr on yy

looks : 6.5
boobs : a cup, small but soft
massage: soothing & strength just nice
hj : 7 (grab frm behind was nice)
rtf : see how

fjqpzm
13-10-2008, 03:38 PM
Any bor can post no to me thx a lot:p

crazytiger
13-10-2008, 07:06 PM
Thanks to those bros who have put up FR. For those who are interested, please PM me for contact. Don't miss it!!!!!

ahniu_7
14-10-2008, 08:48 PM
Hi.. can i have their contacts pls?? thks :)

Jerryt81
15-10-2008, 01:00 PM
Bro,
Pls pm me her contact

bowlerXX
15-10-2008, 02:06 PM
Hi Bro,

Pse PM Yang Yang contact, thks

:)

cordon
15-10-2008, 10:31 PM
Yo TS,

as promise, this is my FR for YY...

Called her yesterday to book this morning 9am.. called her 8:15am to confirm again, she never pick up.. but within 5 mins called back and keep apologise she juz wake up, thats why missed my call..Wah, very courteous gal.

Proceed to room and sms her, she reached within 10 mins.. 1st impression, her look ok to me and quite slim, hair really long sia.. but was very happy with her attitude, very friendly, feel like already know her for long time.

Massage wise, strength juz nice, but can be harder.. didn't blame her cos she had not taken her bfast as my booking is 9am:p. We been chatting and found that she very open in conversation. She also mention her business so-so only, maybe due to stock market:o

After massage, proceed with hai-di-lao my didi, fingernails a bit long, but overall experience quite shiok.. keep asking me "shuang ma??"

When asked to turn over, she will sit beside me when HJing me with left hand, tune my 93.3 with my right hand. Of course cannot lose to her,m my hand keep touching her from top to bottom (too bad with cloths on).. Abt 10 mins, my protein all defeated by her and explode...

Rating:
Massage:6.5/10 (have not eat breakfast, so never blame her;))
Look:6/10
Body: 6/10 Slim but with clothes on, difficult to judge
Attitude:9/10 (always smile and very friendly lah)
Overall: 7.5/10

She is here for 2 months only, and for bros who are interested pls pm TS for her contact..Pls call her as she say business is bad..getting slot from her shouldn't be any problem.:)

ml1138
16-10-2008, 05:57 AM
[QUOTE=cordon;3149925]Yo TS,

as promise, this is my FR for YY...

Called her yesterday to book this morning 9am.. called her 8:15am to confirm again, she never pick up.. but within 5 mins called back and keep apologise she juz wake up, thats why missed my call..Wah, very courteous gal.

wah you really kun chong and call her so early, you are lucky she will accept you at this hour as most girls will sleep until the sun shine on their buttock before they will just get and brush their teeth.
yah as XH said her sis is not doing too well, just her luck with the world stock tumble...

crazytiger
16-10-2008, 06:56 PM
Like what bro Cordon has said, business has not been good for XH and her sister Yang Yang. Interested parties, please PM me for her number to book a slot with her. She will only be here for 2 months, so hurry up, don't miss this one and only chance.

cordon
16-10-2008, 08:27 PM
[QUOTE]

wah you really kun chong and call her so early, you are lucky she will accept you at this hour as most girls will sleep until the sun shine on their buttock before they will just get and brush their teeth.
yah as XH said her sis is not doing too well, just her luck with the world stock tumble...

No lah, i did check with her and she say no problem...her attitude good and she really come here to earn more...But i feel bad when she told me haven't eat breakfast:o

ruchucky
17-10-2008, 06:34 PM
thanks bro crazytiger for the contact. managed to book her at L81.

Look: 6.5/10. Nice & pleasant. Slim but little fat at tummy.

Atitude: Nice & friendly. Chatty. Sweet smiles & cheerful.

Boobs: 6/10.

Massage: 7.5/10. Quite enjoyed her massage. Put in lots of effort. Felt relieved.

Hj: 8/10. It was the signature HDLY. Shiok!

Damage: $70 + $10 tips + room

RTM: maybe another GST Credit :D

bro, can pm me the contact? sure will post after try.
thank

crazytiger
22-10-2008, 07:03 PM
The same thing that happened to XYZ is happening to Yang Yang. That is, many bros have asked for her number but according to XH, there isn't any call for appointment. Yang Yang only survives on those regulars of XH.

Bros who have her number and interested to make booking, please do so before she flies back home. Those who do not and interested, please PM me.

gummyboy
23-10-2008, 12:21 AM
The same thing that happened to XYZ is happening to Yang Yang. That is, many bros have asked for her number but according to XH, there isn't any call for appointment. Yang Yang only survives on those regulars of XH.

Bros who have her number and interested to make booking, please do so before she flies back home. Those who do not and interested, please PM me.

Bro. I donno should say this or not....

I tried Messaging her last week. She preferred Lavander area (which I don't like. Its ok, to each its own). But somehow, YY tone in her SMS doesn't seemed friendly. She can return message me something like "You want just get a place then message me" . I was like, HUH? What does this mean? No appointment fix just get a room near the area and call you? What if you don't turn up? :confused:

Personally, I gave her a pass and immediately called some other new contacts that very evening.

strategic
23-10-2008, 01:55 AM
juz have a session with her at 8. she looks better in skirt and her skill have certainly improve compare to my last visit 2 weeks ago.bro who like to have a gd and relaxing massage can try her. overall is money well spend. happy bonking, cheers :p

crazytiger
23-10-2008, 08:14 PM
Bro. I donno should say this or not....

I tried Messaging her last week. She preferred Lavander area (which I don't like. Its ok, to each its own). But somehow, YY tone in her SMS doesn't seemed friendly. She can return message me something like "You want just get a place then message me" . I was like, HUH? What does this mean? No appointment fix just get a room near the area and call you? What if you don't turn up? :confused:

Personally, I gave her a pass and immediately called some other new contacts that very evening.

Bro gummyboy, I hope you understand this. Firstly, this is her first time here and do not know how to get around except to Lavender where XH has shown her. Secondly, if she take a cab and if the driver lost his way, I don't think she knows how to bring the driver. So, if Lavender is inconvenient for you, then I guess its ok if you give her a miss.

mike38
24-10-2008, 05:14 AM
juz have a session with her at 8. she looks better in skirt and her skill have certainly improve compare to my last visit 2 weeks ago.bro who like to have a gd and relaxing massage can try her. overall is money well spend. happy bonking, cheers :p

hey bro strategic are you sure when you said that, or you just type just for fun, is it for real that we can bonk her?...:confused::)

strategic
24-10-2008, 12:38 PM
no la bro,i aslo hope can bonk her but the most she offer is only hj , i juz type it casully, sorry for the misunderstanding :D:p:o happy massage cheers

becker759
25-10-2008, 09:52 AM
yesterday try to call xiao hong for a a massage.She could not make it for she had appointment recommend her sister yang yang to me.Ask her the price she told me $90 for 90min.Do bro here think the price a bit high for this recession peroid.

shua
26-10-2008, 11:07 AM
Im sure tat includes the special service bah... if not if its jus the massage... its $1/min... tats abit ex leh...

crazytiger
26-10-2008, 01:22 PM
yesterday try to call xiao hong for a a massage.She could not make it for she had appointment recommend her sister yang yang to me.Ask her the price she told me $90 for 90min.Do bro here think the price a bit high for this recession peroid.

Her actual rate is $70 per hour. If she quoted you $90 for 90 min that means you earn lah, pay extra $20 for extra half hour. Of course that includes the Hai Di Lao Yue lah.

mike38
27-10-2008, 05:08 AM
Her actual rate is $70 per hour. If she quoted you $90 for 90 min that means you earn lah, pay extra $20 for extra half hour. Of course that includes the Hai Di Lao Yue lah.


bro crazytiger, just to clarify with you as last time you say XH massage price is $60 inclusive of HDLY. it was $80 previously right?...

crazytiger
27-10-2008, 03:47 PM
bro crazytiger, just to clarify with you as last time you say XH massage price is $60 inclusive of HDLY. it was $80 previously right?...

Yes!!!! But for Yang Yang is $70 per hour.

complicated1983
28-10-2008, 12:26 AM
Hi can share the contact wif me ? thanks

fcuksam
28-10-2008, 03:45 AM
Just had my RTM with YY early Monday morning, together with XH too. Both ladies' massage were excellent, YY has improved quite a bit the last time I tried her massage.

YY will be going back around the 3rd week of Nov, so those numbers collector, you may want to contact her.

ml1138
28-10-2008, 03:59 AM
Yes!!!! But for Yang Yang is $70 per hour.


thanks bro crazytiger for d update, should give YY support as she will going back and not sure to return.

Accord_JDM
28-10-2008, 03:44 PM
thks to TS for her contact...
decided to give her and here is my FR on Yang Yang

Name: Yang Yang (claimed she is a farmer in PRC)
Looks: 6/10 (looks like she is in her mid 30s... not my type)
Figure: 6.5/10 (not my type... runway size tits)
Massage: 7.5/10 (acceptable but not as good as her sister XH)
BJ: n/a
FJ: n/a
HJ: 6.5/10 (robotic... not interesting)
Attitude: 7.5/10 (chatty, and cheerful)
Damage: $70 + rm
RTF: unlikely

:D

AccentSunny
28-10-2008, 10:21 PM
Looks: 6/10 (looks like she is in her mid 30s... not my type)
Damage: $70 + rm

:D

How old is YY. Your $70 + rm mean u go to her house? Thanks.

tomcat007
28-10-2008, 11:05 PM
How old is YY. Your $70 + rm mean u go to her house? Thanks.

No, plus room means room is not included in the $70. The normal practice with freelance WLs is that you arrange a timing with them first, get proceed to get a room. Once you have a room number, let them know and miraculously, they will appear within the next 10 - 15 mins, sometime faster.

Accord_JDM
29-10-2008, 03:55 PM
How old is YY. Your $70 + rm mean u go to her house? Thanks.

IMHO, I think she is in her 30s...
can see wrinkles on the side of her eyes...

$70 is her charges and room charge is not included.

AccentSunny
29-10-2008, 11:00 PM
Thanks Bro tomcat007 and Bro Accord_JDM for clearified.

mike38
30-10-2008, 04:32 PM
IMHO, I think she is in her 30s...
can see wrinkles on the side of her eyes...

$70 is her charges and room charge is not included.

you are right about her age, her yob is 1979....
wrinkles means she is have a hard time back home please forgive me if I am wrong.

shoulder
04-11-2008, 06:34 PM
Thanks to TS for the contact.

My FR on YY as promised.

Called YY earlier this week for a 730pm session. As I was able to finish my appt earlier. Managed to push it down to 645pm.. YY came at 7pm.

Massage strength was initially light. Felt like piano. But just as I was having this thought she ask if I need her to increase her strength, I told her I like it hard and strong. She increase her strength but still not as hard as I would have expected.

I have to clarify that at other session, I will ask her to increase her strength but when arrived she told me that she fell while crossing the road. There was some redness in her palm. I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I give her the option if she is able to proceed with the massage. I am prepared to forego the session without giving her a negative report for such circumstances. She said she is able to proceed.

Her massage covered the neck, arms, back, legs and feet. One thing I have to comment is her back massage. She uses her elbow on the muscle group near to the spine. Not sure if she knows that the way she does it with her force is quite closed to the bone. Luckily her strength isn’t that strong otherwise, I would have a terrible backache. Her feet massage was quite good. Good if your feet is very tired.

The best is her 海底捞月。She sit with her leg spread and lift your leg and rest it over her leg while she does her massage. The strength is just nice. She use her hand to massage your balls and dick. Sometime swirling round the dick head. Shiok. :p On top of that she uses her nails to stimulate the bum and bum line. Good combination.

She ask me to turn over as she did her HJ with oil. :rolleyes:

Massage skill: 6.5
Massage strength: 6.5
海底捞月: 7.3
Attitude: 6.5
HJ: 6.0
BJ: nil
FJ: nil
Damage: $70/60 +

gummyboy
05-11-2008, 09:07 PM
Bro gummyboy, I hope you understand this. Firstly, this is her first time here and do not know how to get around except to Lavender where XH has shown her. Secondly, if she take a cab and if the driver lost his way, I don't think she knows how to bring the driver. So, if Lavender is inconvenient for you, then I guess its ok if you give her a miss.

Yup, no worries. I understand perfectly.

I am only commenting on the way she answers me, esp the: "If you want you just get a room then call me". So what kinda of answer is this? I get room already call her, she busy how? No appointment, no nothing. Just get room and call? :confused:

milkyred
07-11-2008, 10:56 PM
FR on YY

Thanks to crazytiger for CTC. Met YY at 3pm. Below is my FR:

Looks:6/10
Massage Skill: 6.2/10
Massage Strength: 6/10
Attitude: 6.7/10
HJ: 7/10

Overall a positive experience as I think her attitude quite ok.:)

milkyred
07-11-2008, 11:05 PM
Firstly, thanks to crazytiger for the CTC.

FR:
Looks: 6.2/10
Massage Strength: 6.4/10
Massage Skill: 6/10
Attitude: 7/10
HJ: 6.6/10

Overall a positive experience as YY had good attitude.

Damage: $70+room+tips

fcuksam
09-11-2008, 05:37 PM
RTM with YY this Sunday morning. Spent nearly 1.5 to 2 hrs with her, even Xiao Hong called up & asked her why take so long.

Since she will be going back soon, will see & support her a little more.

usmjordan2
09-11-2008, 06:10 PM
another good finding :D

crazytiger
11-11-2008, 07:09 PM
Thanks to those bros who have given Yang Yang your supports and for putting up FRs on her service.

Yang Yang is going back at the end of this month, if I'm not wrong, it should be 29th Nov. If you think her service is up to standard please continue to support her before she goes back.

For those bros who are interested, you can PM me for her number.

Hurry Up!!! Don't Miss it!!!

fcuksam
24-11-2008, 05:16 AM
Met YY on Sun afternoon. Bros., please note that she has 5 days left before going home.

john_hougang
24-11-2008, 08:40 AM
Met YY on Sun afternoon. Bros., please note that she has 5 days left before going home.

Wahhh bro, you realyy know your way :)

ruchucky
24-11-2008, 09:58 AM
FR on YY

Thanks to crazytiger for CTC. Met YY at 3pm. Below is my FR:

Looks:6/10
Massage Skill: 6.2/10
Massage Strength: 6/10
Attitude: 6.7/10
HJ: 7/10

Overall a positive experience as I think her attitude quite ok.:)

hai, bro milkyred.
can pm the contact, want to try her before she going back. hope can try tomorrow afternoon, as my back pain.

conjurer
24-11-2008, 10:25 AM
Seems like a number of good gems are leaving our shores.

crazytiger
25-11-2008, 02:25 AM
Yang yang will be leaving our shore on the 29th Nov in the afternoon. Bros who like to try this gem before she leaves, please PM me for her number.

HURRY!!!! Don't miss this final call.

cimino
04-10-2013, 01:28 PM
Do anyone know what happened to xiao hong? I was trying to contact her but no reply.

Missed her massage

johnn
09-10-2013, 02:54 AM
telephone no. Not in Use.
How to reply u?.
Maybe those bro know her well.
Can update us.
Hope she is in good health,
she working in shenzhen?? Just Guess.