New to playing MP.. need some help bros

[toukin]

Hello old birds.. I'm new to the MP scene and I would like some help.

I guess it is the fact that I can get an actual massage before any action that makes this form of cheonging so enticing.

The problem is, there are hundreds of "spas" around and countless FL ML around that it's very difficult to navigate these rough seas. I tried a ML from sgl*****guy site. The massage was decent to be honest, but the person giving it was a far cry from her pictures.

I then went to Bl**s along Geylang only to realise that I kena chopped. Albeit, the ML was pretty and the massage was not too bad.

This site is a trove of information but it's very daunting to go through hundreds of pages to gather information.

So I guess I'm looking for a TLDR version of places to go, what I should avoid. and also MLs who have a balance of looks and massage skills.

Thanks in advance.

[timeliness]

Bro you might want to further what kind of service you're looking for, since there's different levels of enjoyment in this scene. I used to visit condo MLs too, but the massage felt too superficial and to some extent, some were as good as playing piano.

For a start, some might say happy = hj, very happy = bbbj/bj, super happy = fj.

But of course, the usual ymmv applies since not every ML provides full suite of services.

[Fappyhands]

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[toukin]

Bro you might want to further what kind of service you're looking for, since there's different levels of enjoyment in this scene. I used to visit condo MLs too, but the massage felt too superficial and to some extent, some were as good as playing piano.

For a start, some might say happy = hj, very happy = bbbj/bj, super happy = fj.

But of course, the usual ymmv applies since not every ML provides full suite of services.

I'm generally fine with happy if there's autoroam. Very happy also can but not a must..

Condo MLs feel less commercial but the land mine hit rate is understandably high.

[timeliness]

I'm generally fine with happy if there's autoroam. Very happy also can but not a must..

Condo MLs feel less commercial but the land mine hit rate is understandably high.

And then for roaming there's different tiers depending on whether can roam inside or outside of the clothes, north or south area, etc..

I generally go for MLs with more emphasis of getting a proper massage so usually they only do a happy release.

So in short, you gotta define what kinda services you're looking for then look for the appropriate posts or threads in this. I do share my exploits sometimes in the hc side so you can take a look there too.

[toukin]

And then for roaming there's different tiers depending on whether can roam inside or outside of the clothes, north or south area, etc..

I generally go for MLs with more emphasis of getting a proper massage so usually they only do a happy release.

So in short, you gotta define what kinda services you're looking for then look for the appropriate posts or threads in this. I do share my exploits sometimes in the hc side so you can take a look there too.

I think I'm kinda looking for the same stuff as you..

Could you advice me as to what I'm expected to pay for the different "tiers" of service too? Like the market rate..

[Keima]

Try the advertisers in this HC Dome.

I’ve been an E3 Wellness, Bee Wellness customer for years. all MLs look mostly like their pics, entry in standard.

[timeliness]

I think I'm kinda looking for the same stuff as you..

Could you advice me as to what I'm expected to pay for the different "tiers" of service too? Like the market rate..

It really depends I guess. But other bros can feel free to add on or correct me if I'm wrong.

Happy: $50 to $60
Very happy: $80 to $100
Super happy: $120 to $150? (Not very sure about this as I rarely try this tier)

Please don't zap me if my info isn't correct, would appreciate a discussion on the rates so we can agree on a market rate to nego with MLs.

[humsupwang]

I also joined this ML playfield early this year and my first time was a $58 entry but I got pushed to pay the $68 entry.

I went with no expectations as it was a curtain joint and I thought nothing naughty will be done. End up it was a 15 mins massage and then the ML popped me the GQ. I was so beginner that I didn’t even ask for the price and it went from HJ, to roaming with clothes, kissing, roaming without clothes, and the next thing was a FJ.

At the end I paid another $80, which is definitely lower than the typical FJ rate but I guess YMMV. I talked to her quite abit during the 15 massage and the last 10 minutes or so she just rested beside me while lying down.

Till now, I’m still exploring and there’s def hits and misses at different ML joints. Good luck bro!

[sladang]

It really depends I guess. But other bros can feel free to add on or correct me if I'm wrong.

Happy: $50 to $60
Very happy: $80 to $100
Super happy: $120 to $150? (Not very sure about this as I rarely try this tier)

Please don't zap me if my info isn't correct, would appreciate a discussion on the rates so we can agree on a market rate to nego with MLs.

The abv quoted are generally correct & highly acceptable :D ..

[toukin]

It really depends I guess. But other bros can feel free to add on or correct me if I'm wrong.

Happy: $50 to $60
Very happy: $80 to $100
Super happy: $120 to $150? (Not very sure about this as I rarely try this tier)

Please don't zap me if my info isn't correct, would appreciate a discussion on the rates so we can agree on a market rate to nego with MLs.

Is this inclusive of entry fee? I suppose not right?

[Keima]

Is this inclusive of entry fee? I suppose not right?

These are meal options.

Entry fees are separate, as some shops don’t share them with service providers.

Entry fees can go from $50 to $100/hr, but most places that have the standard $55-60 are ok. One shop I go to is $68/hr but the ML gets a share, and her massage is bloody solid.

[Drifter1999]

I'm generally fine with happy if there's autoroam. Very happy also can but not a must..

Condo MLs feel less commercial but the land mine hit rate is understandably high.

Ah. Do note that happy packages don't always come with autoroam hor. Depending on the provider, some will require further top ups （can be as high as another $50. In this situation, my advise is just WALK AWAY.

[Fbtak]

Used to chiong MLs quite a bit many years back but went on hiatus. Now starting to slowly come back.

If your prioritization is for a solid massage over extent of services offered, then these joints aren't too hard to find. As one bro mentioned, most of the sponsored places here are a good place to start. A second one would be on social media platforms, especially tiktok for me.

They tend to be what most bros here nowadays call the "cat A" joints. Entry is usually high 60s to 80s an hour. But MLs tend to be younger and aren't too far from what is advertised. Massage is OK or in some cases, actually pretty good. But it's rare to find piano types. Services tend to be up to 'happy' levels only. I am fine with that. What I look out for is roaming options.

My personal experience is that this is largely dependent on the ML themselves as opposed to the shop.

[Fbtak]

Forgot to add. The so called "owo" joints usually are the ones offering very very happy.

But not sure if it's me or my standards that have changed but I find such experiences to be far less memorable than plain happy. MLs tend to be older, the service rushed, but to me the biggest turn off is the facilities itself. When I was younger, parklane and OT were my go to areas for such joints.

No longer. Very much rather have a young pretty ML that is able to make some conversation give me a good massage (and good roaming access!)

[timeliness]

Forgot to add. The so called "owo" joints usually are the ones offering very very happy.

But not sure if it's me or my standards that have changed but I find such experiences to be far less memorable than plain happy. MLs tend to be older, the service rushed, but to me the biggest turn off is the facilities itself. When I was younger, parklane and OT were my go to areas for such joints.

No longer. Very much rather have a young pretty ML that is able to make some conversation give me a good massage (and good roaming access!)

Oh god you reminded me of that one time I went to a owo shop since I was hanging around with nothing to do. She beckoned me in for massage and I really thought there's massage until she played piano for 10 mins and told me actually nobody expects real massage in there 😂

Needless to say, that was one of my worst post nut clarity and there's zero, yes I say again, zero shower facility. No even those shower pods, I had to wipe my sweat off with tissues from her lol.

So bro toukin there you have it, you need to decide what services you want then try and look at the shops. Some of the sponsored threads are decent and I do post FRs from time to time.

If you want juagen for maintenance, I've got a few MLs to recommend too, just let me know which area you're looking at.

[Fbtak]

Oh god you reminded me of that one time I went to a owo shop since I was hanging around with nothing to do. She beckoned me in for massage and I really thought there's massage until she played piano for 10 mins and told me actually nobody expects real massage in there 😂

Needless to say, that was one of my worst post nut clarity and there's zero, yes I say again, zero shower facility. No even those shower pods, I had to wipe my sweat off with tissues from her lol.

I like to think my post nut clarity has been accumulated over many years to the point it just evolved into me simply changing my filters completely for joints. I previously ONLY go for FJs but nowadays a clear FJ shop scares me!

Another type of joint are the old school spas where you'd have a common lounge area where bros can relax before or after. Those used to have quality Malaysian MLs in the past offering FJ but I don't know where to find them. One of the sponsored facial areas looks like it.

[dk878]

I'm newbie also. May I know what is 3B1R mean?

[timeliness]

I like to think my post nut clarity has been accumulated over many years to the point it just evolved into me simply changing my filters completely for joints. I previously ONLY go for FJs but nowadays a clear FJ shop scares me!

Another type of joint are the old school spas where you'd have a common lounge area where bros can relax before or after. Those used to have quality Malaysian MLs in the past offering FJ but I don't know where to find them. One of the sponsored facial areas looks like it.

If I remember correctly, those were called health centres. I remember some of them offer free food and drinks in the lounge area.

[ssd3469]

I'm newbie also. May I know what is 3B1R mean?

B means blue note means 50
R means red note means 10

[toukin]

Oh god you reminded me of that one time I went to a owo shop since I was hanging around with nothing to do. She beckoned me in for massage and I really thought there's massage until she played piano for 10 mins and told me actually nobody expects real massage in there 😂

Needless to say, that was one of my worst post nut clarity and there's zero, yes I say again, zero shower facility. No even those shower pods, I had to wipe my sweat off with tissues from her lol.

So bro toukin there you have it, you need to decide what services you want then try and look at the shops. Some of the sponsored threads are decent and I do post FRs from time to time.

If you want juagen for maintenance, I've got a few MLs to recommend too, just let me know which area you're looking at.

now that you mentioned it, i've seen terms like JG and HDLY.. Would you be so kind as to explain what these are? Another term I see a bit is "Dong Guan style"..

I'm so sorry for these noob questions but I've got limited "free" time and I don't want to walk into this mine field blind.

Thanks in advance.

[wahhero]

just walk into any advertised shops, you will probably get all kinds of services...the only thing u need is $$$..just walk in and ask for any ml you know or don't know...just get the cheapest package or second cheapest one, then wait for them to initiate or you initiate, then give them the basic fare of $50 for hj...if u like the service, you can go visit them again, if not just move on....

[CR7toPSG]

OWO and 2WO are where the most fun usually occurs.
For the cat A spas, the MLs are usually too busy looking out of the window and too busy stopping your hand or mouth/tongue from roaming around too much, that u don’t get the feel of what u are paying for.
Just my own experience from the past few years

[Xgenre]

Hello old birds.. I'm new to the MP scene and I would like some help.

So I guess I'm looking for a TLDR version of places to go, what I should avoid. and also MLs who have a balance of looks and massage skills.

You should ask yourself why you wish to do this and then set your own boundaries. Your own red lines that should never be crossed.

Don't bother about which girl is pretty or which MP offers what services at what prices. All these are ever-changing and they are not important over time. You will not remember many of the MLs or MPs you had visited after some time.

For me, I wish to create memories that I can look back when I am old. At least tell myself I had experienced life. Threesome, anal sex, fire/ice bbbj, lesbian/butch sex, juagen, girls of different nationalities, private clubs etc. Enough memories

My red lines are

1. I will not be emotionally involved (no KC)
2. I avoid overspending my money just on a few girls.

Without establishing red lines, you will end up very lost after sometime. Always seeking to validate your own self worth based on how these ML react to you as you can read in some threads.

[Fbtak]

If I remember correctly, those were called health centres. I remember some of them offer free food and drinks in the lounge area.

Ah yessss. Health centres. I remember there was one at the location of one of the advertised joints here but not sure if it's been converted. Fully closed rooms (no glass at the door) and MLs who wear uniforms. The beauty of the HCs were the availability of Malaysian MLs.

[timeliness]

now that you mentioned it, i've seen terms like JG and HDLY.. Would you be so kind as to explain what these are? Another term I see a bit is "Dong Guan style"..

I'm so sorry for these noob questions but I've got limited "free" time and I don't want to walk into this mine field blind.

Thanks in advance.

JG, or juagen, is basically maintenance for your precious tool where the ML will clear blockages and allow for longer sexy times and increased blood flow to the tool. Also helps with urinating in my experience so far.

An addition to this is prostate massage to further compliment this, where the ML usually will wear glove, ask you to get down on all 4 before sticking her finger into your anus area and massage the prostate and you'll feel like liquid flowing out.

Not to be confused by the ML massaging your prostate for a more intense hj or bj though.

HDLY and Dong Guan wise.. I'm not the best person to advise but I know HDLY means hai di lao yue or 海底捞月.

Can the other bros here advise?

[Mobile88]

JG, or juagen, is basically maintenance for your precious tool where the ML will clear blockages and allow for longer sexy times and increased blood flow to the tool. Also helps with urinating in my experience so far.

An addition to this is prostate massage to further compliment this, where the ML usually will wear glove, ask you to get down on all 4 before sticking her finger into your anus area and massage the prostate and you'll feel like liquid flowing out.

Not to be confused by the ML massaging your prostate for a more intense hj or bj though.

HDLY and Dong Guan wise.. I'm not the best person to advise but I know HDLY means hai di lao yue or 海底捞月.

Can the other bros here advise?

HDLY means playing with your tool/balls when facing down. Using her hand and forearm to glide through and massage the groin area.

Dong Guan is a place in China whereby they are famous for sexy sort of things. They have a style of sexy massage that involves teasing, bbbj with hot water and even cold water. I experienced one using ice cube in her mouth as well. then the melted ice will flow down the tool and sack down to the legs. She also will AR with warm water and ice water etc. feathers also come to play

[timeliness]

HDLY means playing with your tool/balls when facing down. Using her hand and forearm to glide through and massage the groin area.

Dong Guan is a place in China whereby they are famous for sexy sort of things. They have a style of sexy massage that involves teasing, bbbj with hot water and even cold water. I experienced one using ice cube in her mouth as well. then the melted ice will flow down the tool and sack down to the legs. She also will AR with warm water and ice water etc. feathers also come to play

I vaguely remember the ice and hot bbbj Chinese term. 冰火霜从天 😂

And then there's other terms like cathbath where the ML will lick all over your body.

But over time one will just get jaded and feel like all pussy is the same if you opt for full service, what makes it different is everything else but the pussy lol.

[Keima]

For me, I wish to create memories that I can look back when I am old. At least tell myself I had experienced life. Threesome, anal sex, fire/ice bbbj, lesbian/butch sex, juagen, girls of different nationalities, private clubs etc. Enough memories.

Me:
Uh nope, tarma too expensive, and no lesbian action, they just take turns playing with your dick.
Anal - yeah, last year I had one FL who was crazy for ass fucking…
Fire/ice - yeah… but not for a long time, seems ‘out of fashion’
Lesbian - not yet
Private clubs - too $$$ for my budget

You left out: sisters and twins.. but I didn’t do them in threesomes - never found any who would fuck each other :rolleyes:

[Keima]

Ah yessss. Health centres. I remember there was one at the location of one of the advertised joints here but not sure if it's been converted. Fully closed rooms (no glass at the door) and MLs who wear uniforms. The beauty of the HCs were the availability of Malaysian MLs.

There is a fuck joint that still has the same HC Malaysian MLs.. the older cheongsters know all about it.

[kombust]

But over time one will just get jaded and feel like all pussy is the same if you opt for full service, what makes it different is everything else but the pussy lol.

same thoughts. i also think the feel of how strongly the ml enjoys the fuck also turns me on.

[timeliness]

Me:
Uh nope, tarma too expensive, and no lesbian action, they just take turns playing with your dick.
Anal - yeah, last year I had one FL who was crazy for ass fucking…
Fire/ice - yeah… but not for a long time, seems ‘out of fashion’
Lesbian - not yet
Private clubs - too $$$ for my budget

You left out: sisters and twins.. but I didn’t do them in threesomes - never found any who would fuck each other :rolleyes:

How about different nationalities like Japanese, Korean, and other western countries etc?


same thoughts. i also think the feel of how strongly the ml enjoys the fuck also turns me on.

Well, I guess both of us love to torture the ML with pleasure :D But nowadays I tend to lean towards JG rather than spend the money to unlock and chase skirts.

[Keima]

How about different nationalities like Japanese, Korean, and other western countries etc? .

Mainly a cost issue.. I actually haven’t fucked a local girl in years as I’d rather pay for a young, pretty Vietbu.

Money unlocks everything, and there’s plenty of Euro and Jap FLs in SG right now.

[Nightzzz]

Guys, how do you deal with situations whereby the Ml looks very different from the pics but you already paid?

[toukin]

There is a fuck joint that still has the same HC Malaysian MLs.. the older cheongsters know all about it.

where is this magical place?

[Keima]

where is this magical place?

Look for the two facial place ads in this dome, note that they mention Malaysian ladies…

[Dddnoob]

Look for the two facial place ads in this dome, note that they mention Malaysian ladies…

Yes the last remaining few. But take note no syt malaysian on the lineup so bro take note and dont kpkb

[Keima]

Yes the last remaining few. But take note no syt malaysian on the lineup so bro take note and dont kpkb

That’s why I highlighted OG HC Malaysians in my first post…:D

[ssd3469]

JG, or juagen, is basically maintenance for your precious tool where the ML will clear blockages and allow for longer sexy times and increased blood flow to the tool. Also helps with urinating in my experience so far.

An addition to this is prostate massage to further compliment this, where the ML usually will wear glove, ask you to get down on all 4 before sticking her finger into your anus area and massage the prostate and you'll feel like liquid flowing out.

Not to be confused by the ML massaging your prostate for a more intense hj or bj though.

HDLY and Dong Guan wise.. I'm not the best person to advise but I know HDLY means hai di lao yue or 海底捞月.

Can the other bros here advise?

Is baoyang and juagen the same thing?

[Dddnoob]

Mainly a cost issue.. I actually haven’t fucked a local girl in years as I’d rather pay for a young, pretty Vietbu.

Money unlocks everything, and there’s plenty of Euro and Jap FLs in SG right now.

Local young gal asking 4 digit … omg

[thethinnestman]

Hello old birds.. I'm new to the MP scene and I would like some help.

I guess it is the fact that I can get an actual massage before any action that makes this form of cheonging so enticing.

The problem is, there are hundreds of "spas" around and countless FL ML around that it's very difficult to navigate these rough seas. I tried a ML from sgl*****guy site. The massage was decent to be honest, but the person giving it was a far cry from her pictures.

I then went to Bl**s along Geylang only to realise that I kena chopped. Albeit, the ML was pretty and the massage was not too bad.

This site is a trove of information but it's very daunting to go through hundreds of pages to gather information.

So I guess I'm looking for a TLDR version of places to go, what I should avoid. and also MLs who have a balance of looks and massage skills.

Thanks in advance.

Hello all very new to this massage thing, just wanna ask all the experienced people what do yall do to them… touch their thighs or just simply relax :)

[komododx]

I think you can always tell.

Shop with single lady, wearing scantily glad, easy HJ, BBBJ, FJ, even BBFJ. I usually straight up ask how much to f...

Spa with multiple girls, it depends. I usually do some reckon online, check the reviews, usually if massage is rated bad, then it's mostly hanky panky. Also can check if they have the highly altered pics. Lastly, use WeChat "People Nearby" function and you can always find the shop receptionist or the MLs themselves and can ask. They will never say yes but will say like "come and discuss".

I think for most Spa, usually can get HJ, max BBBJ, but for those where I know there is chance, I just go shock n awe, no questions, no pricing, nothing, just go munch on cats and FJ... later nego price, usually offer $100-130, of cos plus the $50 for laoban.

[Mobile88]

Hello all very new to this massage thing, just wanna ask all the experienced people what do yall do to them… touch their thighs or just simply relax :)

I suggest you go read other threads. Especially people's field reports. The more you read, the more you get an idea instead of asking here. And last but not least, go try out yourself.

[Mobile88]

Is baoyang and juagen the same thing?

Different. Juagen is a specific massage technique for your tool.
Baoyang is just a generic term. Some places even call HJ baoyang. Maintenance.

[puffp]

Guys, how do you deal with situations whereby the Ml looks very different from the pics but you already paid?

Just walk off ….

[Mister00]

Hello all very new to this massage thing, just wanna ask all the experienced people what do yall do to them… touch their thighs or just simply relax :)

Chat up abit hehe haha first. Don't straight touch la boss haha. Skali kena they bad mood not happy with u threaten call police say molest. Or ask u pay compensation jialat. Respect is a must =)

[ssd3469]

Different. Juagen is a specific massage technique for your tool.
Baoyang is just a generic term. Some places even call HJ baoyang. Maintenance.

Baoyang cannot shoot or release one, hj can, got difference.

[kennese2006]

Guys, how do you deal with situations whereby the Ml looks very different from the pics but you already paid?

just suck it up. lol. otherwise, you can always say no to GQ and move on.

[kennese2006]

same thoughts. i also think the feel of how strongly the ml enjoys the fuck also turns me on.

speaking of which, do you have MLs that really enjoy getting F?

[Keima]

Hello all very new to this massage thing, just wanna ask all the experienced people what do yall do to them… touch their thighs or just simply relax :)

https://sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=23421109&postcount=33