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Grandzenq
06-07-2024, 08:39 AM
Recently had BBBJ by a ML at Opal Crescent whom was previously promoted in the CIM thread, and noticed there’s a white growth on my penis. I also feel pain while urinating. Is there any chance it is STD?

the_e_ones
06-07-2024, 08:44 AM
Bro Grandzenq, just go and see a doctor.

HiFive
06-07-2024, 08:57 AM
Bro Grandzenq, just go and see a doctor.


Agreed, just go and see a doctor. And perhaps post at the health forum here to get more specific answer.

sladang
06-07-2024, 09:40 AM
Yeah, juz go see a doctor, thereafter mayb can post your test result too, positive or negative? :D ..

Showerboi
06-07-2024, 09:58 AM
If you are wandering where to go:
https://www.nsc.com.sg/dsc/Pages/Home.aspx

It strategically located at Jalan Besar.

Grandzenq
06-07-2024, 12:40 PM
Those who are wondering I went to COCO at 13 Opal Crescent. I urging all bros who visited her for BBBJ to go for check up. I have scheduled an appointment to test and check tomorrow.

tritonyeah666
06-07-2024, 01:00 PM
Probably hpv

Grandzenq
06-07-2024, 01:15 PM
Probably hpv

what is hpv?

Keima
06-07-2024, 01:19 PM
what is hpv?

Just go see the doc, let a medical professional diagnose your issue :rolleyes:

Most things are now curable with some antibiotics.

sladang
06-07-2024, 02:25 PM
Those who are wondering I went to COCO at 13 Opal Crescent. I urging all bros who visited her for BBBJ to go for check up. I have scheduled an appointment to test and check tomorrow.

Are u sure? tomorrow Sunday leh

Anywhere, are u able to post your test result here? :D ..

Keima
06-07-2024, 02:38 PM
Are u sure? tomorrow Sunday leh

Anywhere, are u able to post your test result here? :D ..

Most likely weekend shift or they have a schedule. My regular GP opens on weekend mornings.

Newsasap
06-07-2024, 02:41 PM
Recently had BBBJ by a ML at Opal Crescent whom was previously promoted in the CIM thread, and noticed there’s a white growth on my penis. I also feel pain while urinating. Is there any chance it is STD?

Bro, this is just fungus growth. No need panic.
Medical terms called balanitis.
Go to boon Keng mrt and look for lui surgery.
He had special cream for this.

kombust
06-07-2024, 11:47 PM
Those who are wondering I went to COCO at 13 Opal Crescent. I urging all bros who visited her for BBBJ to go for check up. I have scheduled an appointment to test and check tomorrow.

hmm you gave bad reviews of that shop more than a month back then you went to visit recently? that ml must be pretty good to entice you.

never went to that place. too out of the way for me.

Mobile88
07-07-2024, 05:58 AM
hmm you gave bad reviews of that shop more than a month back then you went to visit recently? that ml must be pretty good to entice you.

never went to that place. too out of the way for me.

Looking further, he visited that place more than once. Shrug.

Just curious usually symptoms take how long to appear?

spartanecvip512
07-07-2024, 10:39 AM
Recently had BBBJ by a ML at Opal Crescent whom was previously promoted in the CIM thread, and noticed there’s a white growth on my penis, (https://phimhentaiz.net/) I also feel pain while urinating. Is there any chance it is STD?

Hello, Grandzenq! What are the test results and the doctor's diagnosis? Please share them so everyone can be informed.

spermy
07-07-2024, 12:56 PM
Bro, this is just fungus growth. No need panic.
Medical terms called balanitis.


One treatment is circumcision so I would panic. Haha

Good luck to the OP!

Grandzenq
07-07-2024, 03:36 PM
Just an update. I went to clinic earlier today and just got my result that show i am HSV 1 positive.

I am so worried. Need to tell my wife?

chobo
07-07-2024, 04:02 PM
Just an update. I went to clinic earlier today and just got my result that show i am HSV 1 positive.

I am so worried. Need to tell my wife?
Don't panic bro. A lot of people shared their experience here and info on HSV.

https://sbf.today/showthread.php?t=21670

Zzun
07-07-2024, 04:05 PM
Just an update. I went to clinic earlier today and just got my result that show i am HSV 1 positive.

I am so worried. Need to tell my wife?
Thats unfortunate man as chances from bj is low.

WOOHOO
07-07-2024, 04:07 PM
Thats unfortunate man as chances from bj is low.

WOO UPZ 👍 👍 👍

WOOHOO
07-07-2024, 04:08 PM
Don't panic bro. A lot of people shared their experience here and info on HSV.

https://sbf.today/showthread.php?t=21670

WOO UPZ 👍 👍 👍

Autumnsun
07-07-2024, 04:14 PM
Recently had BBBJ by a ML at Opal Crescent whom was previously promoted in the CIM thread, and noticed there’s a white growth on my penis. I also feel pain while urinating. Is there any chance it is STD?

Don't wait liao. Arrange for your appt.

If U wanna be discreet, check out dtapclinic.com

Autumnsun
07-07-2024, 04:15 PM
Not HPV for sure. HPV infection where got so fast for signs liao...

Wee0502
07-07-2024, 04:27 PM
Thats unfortunate man as chances from bj is low.

I think the ML never rinse before she performed BBBJ which greatly increase the chance.

bignehneh
07-07-2024, 05:28 PM
This is for life right? It is a virus that stays with you

Wee0502
07-07-2024, 07:48 PM
This is for life right? It is a virus that stays with you

Can self heal if immune system strong. Same for HPV virus. Sometimes husband transmit to wife, husband self heal after a while, but wife develop serious symptoms. Funny part is husband health check all clear.

Grandzenq
07-07-2024, 08:07 PM
Hello, Grandzenq! What are the test results and the doctor's diagnosis? Please share them so everyone can be informed.
I went to clinic earlier today and just got my result that show i am HSV 1 positive.

Oldbox
07-07-2024, 08:45 PM
Thats unfortunate man as chances from bj is low.

I also had a sti scare not too long ago after a bbbj.
Itching and redness. Went to test for everything that can be tested. Everything negative, so the doctor say it’s fungal balanitis.
Apply cream and was better after 3 weeks.

At that time, I asked the doctor about the risks as it was only my second bbbj ever. He said - what do you expect? How many dicks is the ML sucking everyday…. He also said chlymadia is very common and easily transmitted via bbbj. He sees at least one case every week at his clinic.

Chlong4fun
07-07-2024, 09:54 PM
Bro, wish you faster recover and please share this to the relevant thread to increase awareness of chiongster. If not will be endless cycles within the industry le

Wee0502
07-07-2024, 09:58 PM
I also had a sti scare not too long ago after a bbbj.
Itching and redness. Went to test for everything that can be tested. Everything negative, so the doctor say it’s fungal balanitis.
Apply cream and was better after 3 weeks.

At that time, I asked the doctor about the risks as it was only my second bbbj ever. He said - what do you expect? How many dicks is the ML sucking everyday…. He also said chlymadia is very common and easily transmitted via bbbj. He sees at least one case every week at his clinic.

I normally take doxycline if I suspect ML never rinse their mouth before performing BBBJ on me. For the FL that I engaged, all of them rinse their mouth before the deed started.

bignehneh
07-07-2024, 10:20 PM
I normally take doxycline if I suspect ML never rinse their mouth before performing BBBJ on me. For the FL that I engaged, all of them rinse their mouth before the deed started.

If rinsing mouth works, do we still need doxycline? Why not rinse our cock head inside mouth wash?

bignehneh
07-07-2024, 10:25 PM
Can self heal if immune system strong. Same for HPV virus. Sometimes husband transmit to wife, husband self heal after a while, but wife develop serious symptoms. Funny part is husband health check all clear.

Strong immune system probably suppressed the symptom but virus still in you. The unfair thing is wife will get it if she bbbj you. And have unprotected sex. If you insist on caps, then wife will suspect something

At some point, you will wonder whether it makes sense to cheong because

(1) These ML/ FL all treating us like carrot. For example $150 for HJ, $220 for body and $250 for sucking tits. I think if we save these money and build present for wife and kids, imagine how much joy they will bring

(2) Spreading all these STD to wife. Some like Chamydia may have serious implications if left untreated and eventually spread to baby. Sigh….quite unfair if wife remains faithful then get it from unfaithful husband.

Wee0502
07-07-2024, 10:28 PM
If rinsing mouth works, do we still need doxycline? Why not rinse our cock head inside mouth wash?

You can do that actually, I not sure if the ML still willing to blow you.
Mouth rinsing can kill some bacteria or virus, it is much safer for the girls if you do painting on them.
Doxycycline is to protect against bacteria and syphilis. I usually take 1 pill after the deed.

Wee0502
07-07-2024, 10:31 PM
Strong immune system probably suppressed the symptom but virus still in you. The unfair thing is wife will get it if she bbbj you. And have unprotected sex. If you insist on caps, then wife will suspect something

At some point, you will wonder whether it makes sense to cheong because

(1) These ML/ FL all treating us like carrot. For example $150 for HJ, $220 for body and $250 for sucking tits. I think if we save these money and build present for wife and kids, imagine how much joy they will bring

(2) Spreading all these STD to wife. Some like Chamydia may have serious implications if left untreated and eventually spread to baby. Sigh….quite unfair if wife remains faithful then get it from unfaithful husband.

Body really can kill HPV and HSV virus on its own d, need time and strong immune system. Almost all STDs have much more severe symptoms and effects on females. That’s why you must wear protection, use mouth rinse and eat antibiotics after engaging FL or ML

Newsasap
07-07-2024, 11:49 PM
You can do that actually, I not sure if the ML still willing to blow you.
Mouth rinsing can kill some bacteria or virus, it is much safer for the girls if you do painting on them.
Doxycycline is to protect against bacteria and syphilis. I usually take 1 pill after the deed.
1 pill of doxy 500g doesn't work, you need to take 1 course, 3 days minimum plus 1 cipro. The cipro kills virus and bacteria passed down from the lady.

Wee0502
07-07-2024, 11:54 PM
1 pill of doxy 500g doesn't work, you need to take 1 course, 3 days minimum plus 1 cipro. The cipro kills virus and bacteria passed down from the lady.

Take a single dose of doxycycline as soon as possible but no more than 72 hours after having condomless sex to reduce the risk of three STIs: syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia. Doxy-PEP is usually given as two,100-milligram pills or one 200-milligrams tablet.

Newsasap
08-07-2024, 12:04 AM
I also had a sti scare not too long ago after a bbbj.
Itching and redness. Went to test for everything that can be tested. Everything negative, so the doctor say it’s fungal balanitis.
Apply cream and was better after 3 weeks.

At that time, I asked the doctor about the risks as it was only my second bbbj ever. He said - what do you expect? How many dicks is the ML sucking everyday…. He also said chlymadia is very common and easily transmitted via bbbj. He sees at least one case every week at his clinic.

If your ml went back home town for a period of time then you need to find out what is the reason she go back home. Some ladies contracted sti and they are afraid to get treatment here, the report may affect their permit. So they go back hometown to do treatment until their results turn negative then they come back. Sometime hospital give antibiotic thru hand by blood stream circulation and they do it for continuous 7 days. Some patients cannot swallow pills thru mouth.

Newsasap
08-07-2024, 12:05 AM
Take a single dose of doxycycline as soon as possible but no more than 72 hours after having condomless sex to reduce the risk of three STIs: syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia. Doxy-PEP is usually given as two,100-milligram pills or one 200-milligrams tablet.
Yes, sorry my typo error of 500g.

rambutarn
08-07-2024, 01:49 AM
Hi OP, I do follow the sexual health thread and read up on STDs due to previous scares before. So would like to share my few cents worth.

The bad news is that HSV-1 (or 2 for that matter) is for life... When you have it, it's just either you have outbreaks of cold sores or not, but whenever you go for test, it will forever show positive. During outbreak of sores is when transmission rate is the highest, but doesn't mean that no outbreak means wont transmit.

The good news I have for you is that based on research (i believe in US), majority of people actually do have HSV-1 as it is very easily transmitted even from kissing. If this is the first time you have actually tested, specifically for HSV-1, based on the statistics, there is actually quite a high chance that you already had HSV-1 before but you just didn't know cos the symptoms never exhibited before, which means highly likely your partner(s) may have it also. Best course of action for you is just to keep quiet about it and hope nobody ever shows any symptoms at all. If one day one of you might need to do test and it comes out positive, there are quite differing articles online some saying that herpes can be spread by sharing food, some say cannot, some say most people get it from getting kissed by relatives when young or whatever not, so just keep those as your back up plan. It's actually also possible that you might have even gotten it from your partner lol.

My advice is don't worry so much about it. Until it is something to be worried about... If your conscience is telling you to be a man and own up to your mistakes, let me remind you that owning up is putting the pain and burden on your partner even though it relieves you of the guilt. Just be better, try to quit (probably impossible) or at least stick to the less risky means for the sake of your partner.

spermy
08-07-2024, 06:07 AM
Hi OP, I do follow the sexual health thread and read up on STDs due to previous scares before. So would like to share my few cents worth.

The bad news is that HSV-1 (or 2 for that matter) is for life... When you have it, it's just either you have outbreaks of cold sores or not, but whenever you go for test, it will forever show positive. During outbreak of sores is when transmission rate is the highest, but doesn't mean that no outbreak means wont transmit.

The good news I have for you is that based on research (i believe in US), majority of people actually do have HSV-1 as it is very easily transmitted even from kissing. If this is the first time you have actually tested, specifically for HSV-1, based on the statistics, there is actually quite a high chance that you already had HSV-1 before but you just didn't know cos the symptoms never exhibited before, which means highly likely your partner(s) may have it also. Best course of action for you is just to keep quiet about it and hope nobody ever shows any symptoms at all. If one day one of you might need to do test and it comes out positive, there are quite differing articles online some saying that herpes can be spread by sharing food, some say cannot, some say most people get it from getting kissed by relatives when young or whatever not, so just keep those as your back up plan. It's actually also possible that you might have even gotten it from your partner lol.

My advice is don't worry so much about it. Until it is something to be worried about... If your conscience is telling you to be a man and own up to your mistakes, let me remind you that owning up is putting the pain and burden on your partner even though it relieves you of the guilt. Just be better, try to quit (probably impossible) or at least stick to the less risky means for the sake of your partner.

The above is good info/advice.

Keima
08-07-2024, 08:45 AM
Just an update. I went to clinic earlier today and just got my result that show i am HSV 1 positive.

I am so worried. Need to tell my wife?

A lot of people have HSV-1, 67% of the world’s population.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/herpes-simplex-virus

I had it when I was studying in University overseas during winter, it’s also called cold sores.

How you explain this to your wife is another matter. Hope things work out for you.

Mobile88
08-07-2024, 10:19 AM
If rinsing mouth works, do we still need doxycline? Why not rinse our cock head inside mouth wash?

Oooph that image sounds very painful. The burn.

sgpiggybank
08-07-2024, 12:56 PM
Being ignorant seems better...I read this post now I start to worried already...I think most spa I better settle for HJ will do..BBBJ so low chances also kana...nowadays so many Viet RAW ML.....really scary...Guess really need to practice CBJ from now onwards...

tournedos
08-07-2024, 01:31 PM
Being ignorant seems better...I read this post now I start to worried already...I think most spa I better settle for HJ will do..BBBJ so low chances also kana...nowadays so many Viet RAW ML.....really scary...Guess really need to practice CBJ from now onwards...

Yes, better safe than sorry. CBJ is the way to go

sgpiggybank
08-07-2024, 02:17 PM
Take a single dose of doxycycline as soon as possible but no more than 72 hours after having condomless sex to reduce the risk of three STIs: syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia. Doxy-PEP is usually given as two,100-milligram pills or one 200-milligrams tablet.

I think need to prepare this pill. Where can get? I though only thru doc prescription? If not positive how to buy. LOL

Wee0502
08-07-2024, 02:37 PM
I think need to prepare this pill. Where can get? I though only thru doc prescription? If not positive how to buy. LOL

I bought it online, ordered through shoppee, China version.

sgpiggybank
08-07-2024, 04:01 PM
I bought it online, ordered through shoppee, China version.

China version. Later go thru custom will kana jam anot. Cos it prescript medi wor.

Newsasap
08-07-2024, 04:06 PM
Visit this friendly doctor lui, boon Keng mrt nearby clinic.
Lui surgery.

Wee0502
08-07-2024, 04:12 PM
China version. Later go thru custom will kana jam anot. Cos it prescript medi wor.

No jam for me. I bought one. It can be used for throat infection too, very powerful generic antibiotic.

CollectStamp
08-07-2024, 04:36 PM
Recently had BBBJ by a ML at Opal Crescent whom was previously promoted in the CIM thread, and noticed there’s a white growth on my penis. I also feel pain while urinating. Is there any chance it is STD?

Opal cresent spa is she from JIn Yu spa?

sgpiggybank
08-07-2024, 04:38 PM
No jam for me. I bought one. It can be used for throat infection too, very powerful generic antibiotic.

Visit this friendly doctor lui, boon Keng mrt nearby clinic.
Lui surgery.

Thanks for the info. Stay and play safe bros.

Hope bro Grandezq have a speedy recovery. I guess the hardiest part is how to tell the wife.....Any suggestion here to help him?

Newsasap
08-07-2024, 05:28 PM
Thanks for the info. Stay and play safe bros.

Hope bro Grandezq have a speedy recovery. I guess the hardiest part is how to tell the wife.....Any suggestion here to help him?

this issue will bring another issue is end up with divorce.

Oldbox
08-07-2024, 06:24 PM
If your ml went back home town for a period of time then you need to find out what is the reason she go back home. Some ladies contracted sti and they are afraid to get treatment here, the report may affect their permit. So they go back hometown to do treatment until their results turn negative then they come back. Sometime hospital give antibiotic thru hand by blood stream circulation and they do it for continuous 7 days. Some patients cannot swallow pills thru mouth.

If STI is the reason, I seriously doubt the ML will tell me honestly.

Newsasap
08-07-2024, 06:35 PM
If STI is the reason, I seriously doubt the ML will tell me honestly.
She had no choice I found out she reported to hospital continuous for 7 days until she finally give me the reason she was having antibiotic into her blood stream. From there I stop asking and I do my homework.
She had photograph herself with a needle on her hand hoping I no asking the next day.

gunkytown
09-07-2024, 12:37 AM
Recently had BBBJ by a ML at Opal Crescent whom was previously promoted in the CIM thread, and noticed there’s a white growth on my penis. I also feel pain while urinating. Is there any chance it is STD?
Is it coc*?

Stassyb0b
09-07-2024, 12:50 AM
Does the risk for ML increase when she allows CIM? Or doesn't matter as the virus is equally present in pre-cum?

Bizsta
09-07-2024, 01:25 AM
Being ignorant seems better...I read this post now I start to worried already...I think most spa I better settle for HJ will do..BBBJ so low chances also kana...nowadays so many Viet RAW ML.....really scary...Guess really need to practice CBJ from now onwards...u are right bro,so many are playing Russian roulette n talk so highly abt their conquest or adventure when kena alrdy then regret.So chiong safely

Anycall
09-07-2024, 02:12 AM
u are right bro,so many are playing Russian roulette n talk so highly abt their conquest or adventure when kena alrdy then regret.So chiong safely

It also highly dependant on luck. Have visited famous bbbj queens like Cheryl and Miu Miu 2 years ago who probably sucked more than 1000 dicks and rimmed 1000 assholes in their careers. Hard to believe that they haven't sucked an HSV infected dick. Got myself tested of chlamydia, ghonnorhea, herpes and tricomondas last year and was negative for all. I still continue to count my lucky stars and have been chionging safe ever since with cbj or bbbj only if FL shows health screening report, after reading on all the risks and unfortunate stories shared by bros here.

Autumnsun
09-07-2024, 06:52 AM
It also highly dependant on luck. Have visited famous bbbj queens like Cheryl and Miu Miu 2 years ago who probably sucked more than 1000 dicks and rimmed 1000 assholes in their careers. Hard to believe that they haven't sucked an HSV infected dick. Got myself tested of chlamydia, ghonnorhea, herpes and tricomondas last year and was negative for all. I still continue to count my lucky stars and have been chionging safe ever since with cbj or bbbj only if FL shows health screening report, after reading on all the risks and unfortunate stories shared by bros here.

HPV in the mouths and dicks are getting common these days too. There are different types are HPVs, some get warts or worse cancer years later, yes CB cancer happening on throat or anus.

meshpenstand
09-07-2024, 09:37 AM
No jam for me. I bought one. It can be used for throat infection too, very powerful generic antibiotic.

Yeah, I got doxycycline myself too. But, I would refrain taking them for anything else other than a Doxy-pep.

(Not medically backed, but just personal opinion). Medicine usually becomes less effective when the body gets used to them. So, I use it sparingly. Haha

An article on doxycycline for the bros reading.

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2023/02/424861/doxycycline-sti-prevention-highly-effective-minimal-drug-resistance

meshpenstand
09-07-2024, 09:40 AM
u are right bro,so many are playing Russian roulette n talk so highly abt their conquest or adventure when kena alrdy then regret.So chiong safely

Exactly, but sometimes in the heat of the moment, really hard to detach from the temptations.
After that then regrets....
I got worried when a ML does a pussy rub... Doesn't that kind of equates to raw... Now I hesitate going again.

Wee0502
09-07-2024, 10:08 AM
It also highly dependant on luck. Have visited famous bbbj queens like Cheryl and Miu Miu 2 years ago who probably sucked more than 1000 dicks and rimmed 1000 assholes in their careers. Hard to believe that they haven't sucked an HSV infected dick. Got myself tested of chlamydia, ghonnorhea, herpes and tricomondas last year and was negative for all. I still continue to count my lucky stars and have been chionging safe ever since with cbj or bbbj only if FL shows health screening report, after reading on all the risks and unfortunate stories shared by bros here.

You do know that mouth rinse can kill bacteria and virus right? Stick to using it before and after the blowjob and painting, you can reduce the amount of virus and bacteria to insignificant level.
Some MLs are not aware of this, we have to insist they rinse it before and after BBBJ.

Wee0502
09-07-2024, 10:12 AM
Exactly, but sometimes in the heat of the moment, really hard to detach from the temptations.
After that then regrets....
I got worried when a ML does a pussy rub... Doesn't that kind of equates to raw... Now I hesitate going again.

Not until your dick fully go in and the head of penis fully covered.
In order for HIV transmission to occur:
1. Vagina fluid must have sufficiently high viral load
2. Wound on either party
3. Presence of other STDs significantly increase the risk.

Anyway, I don’t think you should over worry about HIV because of the ultra low incidence rate in Singapore and more than 75 % are druggie or gays. Other STDs cannot be stopped by using condom anyway, so worry also no use. Hahaha ��

Wee0502
09-07-2024, 10:13 AM
Exactly, but sometimes in the heat of the moment, really hard to detach from the temptations.
After that then regrets....
I got worried when a ML does a pussy rub... Doesn't that kind of equates to raw... Now I hesitate going again.

A list for you all to keep:

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meshpenstand
09-07-2024, 10:27 AM
You do know that mouth rinse can kill bacteria and virus right? Stick to using it before and after the blowjob and painting, you can reduce the amount of virus and bacteria to insignificant level.
Some MLs are not aware of this, we have to insist they rinse it before and after BBBJ.

Sometimes I wonder how high risk painting is, given that it's "raw" and you might have a sore throat (open wound) without you really knowing.
Haha... But a mouth wash is definitely a must after.

sgpiggybank
09-07-2024, 11:26 AM
Sometimes I wonder how high risk painting is, given that it's "raw" and you might have a sore throat (open wound) without you really knowing.
Haha... But a mouth wash is definitely a must after.

I heard of this also. Dunno if it is true, a bro msg me mentioning some viet ML in Area J. She is very famous and I think all know who I am mentioning. He painted her and have sore throat next day. After a week, when urinating he got some hot feeling and test later positive for chlamydia. Seem painting can get throat Chlamydia too....from there on I never paint any ML anymore...

The more I read this post I lose mood to chiong now. LOL. Like playing with luck factors. 上的山多终遇虎。。。

SuperHumJiKid
09-07-2024, 11:32 AM
Same, the fear of getting STDs are lurching deep inside.
Hence i usually go for HJ only, detesting actions that encourage fluid exchange.

Unless someday in the future, these STDs got cure or vaccine, else chances of getting caught up in them is greater than 0. One kena, "forever" kena.

Also for those with confirmed STD, tighten ur belts and dont go spreading around anonymously. Really spoil the game.

I heard of this also. Dunno if it is true, a bro msg me mentioning some viet ML in Area J. She is very famous and I think all know who I am mentioning. He painted her and have sore throat next day. After a week, when urinating he got some hot feeling and test later positive for chlamydia. Seem painting can get throat Chlamydia too....from there on I never paint any ML anymore...

The more I read this post I lose mood to chiong now. LOL. Like playing with luck factors. 上的山多终遇虎。。。

sgpiggybank
09-07-2024, 11:39 AM
Same, the fear of getting STDs are lurching deep inside.
Hence i usually go for HJ only, detesting actions that encourage fluid exchange.

Unless someday in the future, these STDs got cure or vaccine, else chances of getting caught up in them is greater than 0. One kena, "forever" kena.

Also for those with confirmed STD, tighten ur belts and dont go spreading around anonymously. Really spoil the game.

Eh,,, I hope everyone thinks like you. Even ML knows they are positive they still go around rawing everyone. Sibei jialat, too bad there are too much restrictions on posting. If not we can create a Hall of Shame for RAW ML/FL...again it will be double edge knife which true and false accusation going on. White knights will all appear again...

meshpenstand
09-07-2024, 11:48 AM
Eh,,, I hope everyone thinks like you. Even ML knows they are positive they still go around rawing everyone. Sibei jialat, too bad there are too much restrictions on posting. If not we can create a Hall of Shame for RAW ML/FL...again it will be double edge knife which true and false accusation going on. White knights will all appear again...


Yeah,I think FR (positive and negative) are somewhat, "take it with a pinch of salt "read. Either one could be fake. Negative reviews could be fake from competitors to derail business or just a matter of opinions.
I am no white knight, but I think FRs are only valid and relevant when you "knew" that person trustworthiness.
Above just my opinion, I was previously zapped for saying out loud. 🤣

Wee0502
09-07-2024, 11:56 AM
Same, the fear of getting STDs are lurching deep inside.
Hence i usually go for HJ only, detesting actions that encourage fluid exchange.

Unless someday in the future, these STDs got cure or vaccine, else chances of getting caught up in them is greater than 0. One kena, "forever" kena.

Also for those with confirmed STD, tighten ur belts and dont go spreading around anonymously. Really spoil the game.

1 popular VP FL told me before too many HJ will spoil your KKJ. She told me to stop PCC and taking HJ if I want to save my bed performance. :D
:D:D Don't say I never warn you before, last time i wonder why so many people opt for HJ or BJ even though FJ is much more enjoyable, after chatting with a few FLs, I understand why. :o:o:o

gorillaz
09-07-2024, 11:56 AM
A lot of people have HSV-1, 67% of the world’s population.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/herpes-simplex-virus

I had it when I was studying in University overseas during winter, it’s also called cold sores.

How you explain this to your wife is another matter. Hope things work out for you.

if u can make it fast with medical u don't tell ur wife

Newsasap
09-07-2024, 12:00 PM
Painting also have risk. Some brother go geylang painting the wl then go spa paint another lady. Is just like kena covit, spread here and there. No one is safe out there. Want to do don't scare. Safest still handjob.

SuperHumJiKid
09-07-2024, 12:02 PM
Erm, I understand the part about too much HJ will be detrimental to bed performance.
But I'm not sure what u meant by the 'warning'?
You encourage fluid exchange???:D

1 popular VP FL told me before too many HJ will spoil your KKJ. She told me to stop PCC and taking HJ if I want to save my bed performance. :D
:D:D Don't say I never warn you before, last time i wonder why so many people opt for HJ or BJ even though FJ is much more enjoyable, after chatting with a few FLs, I understand why. :o:o:o

Wee0502
09-07-2024, 12:04 PM
Erm, I understand the part about too much HJ will be detrimental to bed performance.
But I'm not sure what u meant by the 'warning'?
You encourage fluid exchange???:D

too many HJ/BJ will lead to cannot sustain erection with Cap on and PE. :(:(:(

SuperHumJiKid
09-07-2024, 12:09 PM
Should be fact.
HJ and BJ over-stimulate the penile.
Once cap-on and FJ, all felt numb.
I'm guessing just by weaning off HJ and BJ for a period will increase the sensitivity lah.

too many HJ/BJ will lead to cannot sustain erection with Cap on and PE. :(:(:(

Nightzzz
09-07-2024, 12:11 PM
too many HJ/BJ will lead to cannot sustain erection with Cap on and PE. :(:(:(

How long no hj then can back to performance?😂

Wee0502
09-07-2024, 12:13 PM
Should be fact.
HJ and BJ over-stimulate the penile.
Once cap-on and FJ, all felt numb.
I'm guessing just by weaning off HJ and BJ for a period will increase the sensitivity lah.

It happened during one of my first few sessions. I went soft after a change in position. Then she gave me a blow job again and said in those cute cute voice:打飞机打太多,坏掉了啊!
I guess I will remember that forever.;)

spermy
09-07-2024, 12:22 PM
1 popular VP FL told me before too many HJ will spoil your KKJ. She told me to stop PCC and taking HJ if I want to save my bed performance. :D


What's "too many HJ"?

SuperHumJiKid
09-07-2024, 12:25 PM
10x HJ daily for 10 consecutive years.
:D:D:D
What's "too many HJ"?

spermy
09-07-2024, 12:25 PM
Medicine usually becomes less effective when the body gets used to them.

It's not because the body gets used to them, it is because the bacteria becomes resistant to the drug.

spermy
09-07-2024, 12:27 PM
Haha...I would be worried about friction burns.

10x HJ daily for 10 consecutive years.
:D:D:D

Mobile88
09-07-2024, 12:51 PM
Haha...I would be worried about friction burns.

There might be callouses instead :D
on both the palm and tool.

kcpro
09-07-2024, 01:12 PM
Did OP find out what the white patch was? HSV 1 will cause blisters the same as fever blisters around the mouth.
The blisters are small bumps that weep and painful to touch. Anyone who has fever blisters around the mouth will know.

Poxyt
09-07-2024, 09:36 PM
Those who are wondering I went to COCO at 13 Opal Crescent. I urging all bros who visited her for BBBJ to go for check up. I have scheduled an appointment to test and check tomorrow.

This coco suck 10 cocks a day. She no kena anything then I worry.

grandpasin
09-07-2024, 10:15 PM
How to answer to OC when the white growth is spotted?

gunkytown
09-07-2024, 10:26 PM
Side track. Can anyone recommend cheap clinic for hsv test?

omgso
10-07-2024, 02:04 AM
Is DFK counted as safe as i read saliva cannot transmit HIV but still susceptible to other STD/STI?

aquaregia
10-07-2024, 09:29 AM
Its not a big deal, 2/3 of the world’s population has HSV 1 (67%, hell its 80% in the Americas)

Its so common people prob dont even realise their own family are carriers

You can even get it from simple kissing, condoms cant prevent it 100%

All a matter of time if u are sexually active, even if u dun chiong

aquaregia
10-07-2024, 09:33 AM
Is DFK counted as safe as i read saliva cannot transmit HIV but still susceptible to other STD/STI?

Of course its not safe

Nothing is fully safe, even condoms cant protect 100% from all STIs

You simply hedge ur bets, use condoms for intercourse for HIV. Oral’s HIV chance is negligible but u can get other STIs which antibiotics can deal with

If super scared, then eat PREP or PEP for HIV

The old adage applies

Chiong dont scared, scared dont chiong

kennethmak
10-07-2024, 10:42 AM
If the guy infected and pass on to gf
What symptoms the gk kena?
Can any bros enlighten me on this ?

GRUNGANOVA
10-07-2024, 10:57 AM
If the guy infected and pass on to gf
What symptoms the gk kena?
Can any bros enlighten me on this ?

Depends on the STI that was transmitted to her. But the most common symptom is her breaking up with you.

Wee0502
10-07-2024, 11:02 AM
Is DFK counted as safe as i read saliva cannot transmit HIV but still susceptible to other STD/STI?

DFK easy to transmit flu and covid, that’s why a lot of ML or FL ban it.

Wee0502
10-07-2024, 11:03 AM
Of course its not safe

Nothing is fully safe, even condoms cant protect 100% from all STIs

You simply hedge ur bets, use condoms for intercourse for HIV. Oral’s HIV chance is negligible but u can get other STIs which antibiotics can deal with

If super scared, then eat PREP or PEP for HIV

The old adage applies

Chiong dont scared, scared dont chiong
Singapore HIV population so low, if still scared, better stay at home PCC

Wee0502
10-07-2024, 11:05 AM
If the guy infected and pass on to gf
What symptoms the gk kena?
Can any bros enlighten me on this ?

You can bluff her by saying let us go to hospital for a check up, I pretty sure your report will return all negative while hers is positive. I have read about it over and over again on Chinese forum. Guys no symptoms, not tested positive at all but girls get infected and kena jialat. If you love your gf, do not fuck her if you fuck around.

kennethmak
10-07-2024, 11:35 AM
You can bluff her by saying let us go to hospital for a check up, I pretty sure your report will return all negative while hers is positive. I have read about it over and over again on Chinese forum. Guys no symptoms, not tested positive at all but girls get infected and kena jialat. If you love your gf, do not fuck her if you fuck around.
Kena jialat means what symptoms or std they get?

Wee0502
10-07-2024, 11:43 AM
Kena jialat means what symptoms or std they get?

Certain HPV can be quite serious for girls, the worst part is HPV cannot be detected through a blood test.

HSV may cause blisters and may have symptoms when the body immune system is low.

That’s why even if the guy transmits to his gf, he still can be all clear but his gf may have positive result.

tangerinesex
10-07-2024, 03:01 PM
Certain HPV can be quite serious for girls, the worst part is HPV cannot be detected through a blood test.

HSV may cause blisters and may have symptoms when the body immune system is low.

That’s why even if the guy transmits to his gf, he still can be all clear but his gf may have positive result.

Wrong. hPV can be picked up with a test kit just like any other viruses.

Bizsta
11-07-2024, 01:23 AM
It also highly dependant on luck. Have visited famous bbbj queens like Cheryl and Miu Miu 2 years ago who probably sucked more than 1000 dicks and rimmed 1000 assholes in their careers. Hard to believe that they haven't sucked an HSV infected dick. Got myself tested of chlamydia, ghonnorhea, herpes and tricomondas last year and was negative for all. I still continue to count my lucky stars and have been chionging safe ever since with cbj or bbbj only if FL shows health screening report, after reading on all the risks and unfortunate stories shared by bros here.Yes cheong with safety,if single nvrmind but if married big problem how to explain to spouse.

biostar
11-07-2024, 08:51 AM
Those who are wondering I went to COCO at 13 Opal Crescent. I urging all bros who visited her for BBBJ to go for check up. I have scheduled an appointment to test and check tomorrow.

Erm... i thought you previously warned bros to avoid rose and that infamous spa in general? What made you go back there? Better seek medical treatment and chiong safe moving on.

Wee0502
11-07-2024, 09:11 AM
Yes cheong with safety,if single nvrmind but if married big problem how to explain to spouse.

Just stop making love with your wife. Use excuses and pretend sick.

Wee0502
11-07-2024, 09:13 AM
Wrong. hPV can be picked up with a test kit just like any other viruses.

Test kit? That is only if you have symptoms. If you do a blood test, they cannot detect any HPV. You have to do a swab after symptoms appears. I followed this famous doctor for treating HPV many months, normally gays get it, on anal. Then he had to do a swab test.

MeetYourFapper
11-07-2024, 02:32 PM
What about kissing? Kissing can get STD? Not French kiss just like kissing

loneyheart
11-07-2024, 02:38 PM
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/lifestyle/health/story20240711-4181026

loneyheart
11-07-2024, 02:42 PM
What about kissing? Kissing can get STD? Not French kiss just like kissing

As long as any form of exchange body fluids may get u infected especially u have open wound :)

Newsasap
11-07-2024, 02:46 PM
Just stop making love with your wife. Use excuses and pretend sick.

must learn qi gong. My wife rub my cock and I never wakes up for 5 years.

Wee0502
11-07-2024, 02:48 PM
What about kissing? Kissing can get STD? Not French kiss just like kissing

Like what I said, if you scared just stay at home PCC. Haha. 😜

tangerinesex
11-07-2024, 10:07 PM
Test kit? That is only if you have symptoms. If you do a blood test, they cannot detect any HPV. You have to do a swab after symptoms appears. I followed this famous doctor for treating HPV many months, normally gays get it, on anal. Then he had to do a swab test.

The swab will only pick up the viral load if your condition flares up. Especially in women. But blood work can’t lie. Positive is positive whether or not your condition flares

PieceOfMeat
12-07-2024, 01:34 AM
Hmm.. I recall a doc shared that us guys receiving bbbj actually not that easy to get STD unless there's open wound.

Had a growth of a single white spot (no pain) on my small bro before which didn't recover for a month or 2. Had checkup and everything was fine. Just took some antibiotic and it was gone after a while.

Anyway, stay safe bros

hp2k
12-07-2024, 10:02 AM
Singapore HIV population so low, if still scared, better stay at home PCC

Bro tourist, foreigner, short term visit how?

Wee0502
12-07-2024, 11:41 AM
Bro tourist, foreigner, short term visit how?

This is the probability of you getting HIV if you do RAW with a HIV+ person, if you use condom, the probability = 0. If the other party is HIV -, probability also = 0.

Those FL/ML that provide RAW, you thought they are not scared of HIV? They did some research before, they knew the probability game, that’s why they are willing to risk.

As long as you don’t raw the prostitute, you should be fine.
727007

Wee0502
12-07-2024, 11:43 AM
The swab will only pick up the viral load if your condition flares up. Especially in women. But blood work can’t lie. Positive is positive whether or not your condition flares

Bro, I lazy to argue with you further. You do a simple search using this phase:
“Blood test can detect HPV?”

Hope you are clear after that.

Wee0502
12-07-2024, 11:46 AM
Hmm.. I recall a doc shared that us guys receiving bbbj actually not that easy to get STD unless there's open wound.

Had a growth of a single white spot (no pain) on my small bro before which didn't recover for a month or 2. Had checkup and everything was fine. Just took some antibiotic and it was gone after a while.

Anyway, stay safe bros

Ask the ML or FL to rinse before and after, we educate them and say it is for their own good. Those Xmm will listen d. I chatted with most of them on this before. Mouth rinse can kill most of the bacteria and virus in mouth and make it much harder to reach the load needed for transmissions. This is a simple logic.

Nightzzz
12-07-2024, 02:39 PM
What if the girl squirt? Will it increase chance of std?

GRUNGANOVA
12-07-2024, 03:07 PM
What if the girl squirt? Will it increase chance of std?

You must be referring to the two legendary China ladies in this forum right? The ones that like to squirt in guys' mouth one. For what it's worth, and no cap, I actually contracted chlamydia shortly after a tarma session with them. That was a while ago, but I've been scared to visit them ever since.

SuperHumJiKid
12-07-2024, 03:35 PM
You must be referring to the two legendary China ladies in this forum right? The ones that like to squirt in guys' mouth one. For what it's worth, and no cap, I actually contracted chlamydia shortly after a tarma session with them. That was a while ago, but I've been scared to visit them ever since.

FR? dun play play leh, i think many ppl here visited the famous squirt house and tarma them b4.
If that's the case, then many ppl would be potential carrier liao eh.

Newsasap
12-07-2024, 04:04 PM
You must be referring to the two legendary China ladies in this forum right? The ones that like to squirt in guys' mouth one. For what it's worth, and no cap, I actually contracted chlamydia shortly after a tarma session with them. That was a while ago, but I've been scared to visit them ever since.
If the girls contracted std it will spread to few guys, then these guys also spreads to others ladies. It's beyond control, other ladies also not safe too. Like spreading COVID.

Res2Dent
12-07-2024, 04:05 PM
sometimes i wonder why still go for raw when you obviously know there is a chance of getting disease. Especially those married guys.

Nightzzz
12-07-2024, 04:10 PM
You must be referring to the two legendary China ladies in this forum right? The ones that like to squirt in guys' mouth one. For what it's worth, and no cap, I actually contracted chlamydia shortly after a tarma session with them. That was a while ago, but I've been scared to visit them ever since.

Yea I was curious cause I saw some squirters in the forum

GRUNGANOVA
12-07-2024, 04:19 PM
FR? dun play play leh, i think many ppl here visited the famous squirt house and tarma them b4.
If that's the case, then many ppl would be potential carrier liao eh.

FR bruh. I did a tarma with one ML that's still here, and one that's RTC alr. But again, it was a while back. Almost 1 year ago liao.

Newsasap
12-07-2024, 04:30 PM
sometimes i wonder why still go for raw when you obviously know there is a chance of getting disease. Especially those married guys.

Uncapped feeling very nice

Wee0502
12-07-2024, 04:46 PM
sometimes i wonder why still go for raw when you obviously know there is a chance of getting disease. Especially those married guys.

You thought capped no risk? Cap only reduces chance and totally eliminate HIV transmission. Anyway, I don’t play RAW d.

Oldbox
12-07-2024, 10:03 PM
You thought capped no risk? Cap only reduces chance and totally eliminate HIV transmission. Anyway, I don’t play RAW d.

Of course still have risk, but the reduction of risk is huge.
Each person has to weigh the cost benefit for himself.

aliwangwang
13-07-2024, 08:22 AM
FR bruh. I did a tarma with one ML that's still here, and one that's RTC alr. But again, it was a while back. Almost 1 year ago liao.

Is one of them MM?

Wee0502
13-07-2024, 10:42 AM
If the girls contracted std it will spread to few guys, then these guys also spreads to others ladies. It's beyond control, other ladies also not safe too. Like spreading COVID.

Most are asymptomatic carriers. I feel the easiest to spread still COVID and Flu. I get quite a number of times before.

Chewwsy
14-07-2024, 02:18 AM
Usually the MLs working in Spas don't go for regular check ups unlike the legal ones in Geylang. There are lots of risks involved. Better to go see a doctor and get a full body check up.

hp2k
14-07-2024, 09:45 PM
Ask the ML or FL to rinse before and after, we educate them and say it is for their own good. Those Xmm will listen d. I chatted with most of them on this before. Mouth rinse can kill most of the bacteria and virus in mouth and make it much harder to reach the load needed for transmissions. This is a simple logic.

Bro can share your FJ STD prevention plan. Like is there special spray or cream to apply at groin area that kills virus or bacterial. Maybe got special thing can wear.

For BJ everyone say cap bj is safer. The risk is breakage and depend where the FL lick.

bignehneh
14-07-2024, 10:14 PM
Bro can share your FJ STD prevention plan. Like is there special spray or cream to apply at groin area that kills virus or bacterial. Maybe got special thing can wear.

For BJ everyone say cap bj is safer. The risk is breakage and depend where the FL lick.

Seriously I don’t know whether that bro is talking cock or he wants many others to join his STD camps.

Antibacterial wash/ rinse are designed to reduce the number of bacteria on the skin or surfaces. Antibiotics is used to treat bacterial infection. They work by interfering with bacterial processes, such as cell wall synthesis, protein production, or DNA replication. You need to use different antibiotics to treat different bacteria infection. For example, Augmentin doesn’t treat Chlamydia.

If so easy and you tio Chlamydia, just dip lj into bacterial wash before let wife bbbj? Wa lan eh! No wonder STD spread like siao la. One FL even tell me her CB hair can help to prevent STD. It helps to filter virus/ bacteria. Win already lo

Wee0502
15-07-2024, 08:03 AM
Seriously I don’t know whether that bro is talking cock or he wants many others to join his STD camps.

Antibacterial wash/ rinse are designed to reduce the number of bacteria on the skin or surfaces. Antibiotics is used to treat bacterial infection. They work by interfering with bacterial processes, such as cell wall synthesis, protein production, or DNA replication. You need to use different antibiotics to treat different bacteria infection. For example, Augmentin doesn’t treat Chlamydia.

If so easy and you tio Chlamydia, just dip lj into bacterial wash before let wife bbbj? Wa lan eh! No wonder STD spread like siao la. One FL even tell me her CB hair can help to prevent STD. It helps to filter virus/ bacteria. Win already lo
Read this.
https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/about-us/news-centre/could-antiseptic-mouthwash-reduce-sexually-transmitted-infections-and-improve-sex-life-australians

Wee0502
15-07-2024, 08:06 AM
Bro can share your FJ STD prevention plan. Like is there special spray or cream to apply at groin area that kills virus or bacterial. Maybe got special thing can wear.

For BJ everyone say cap bj is safer. The risk is breakage and depend where the FL lick.

I always do very risky behaviors like BBBJ and painting. Never really do any FJ STD prevention. Use mouth rinse to reduce amount of virus and bacteria in mouth then take antibiotics, Doxypep.

GRUNGANOVA
15-07-2024, 09:12 AM
Is one of them MM?

That's right. The famous one.

spermy
15-07-2024, 09:59 AM
There's nothing definitive in that:

"'My previous work has shown that antiseptic mouthwash could be a potential preventive strategy for throat gonorrhoea and if mouthwash is shown to be effective, we can reduce the use of antibiotics in the era of multidrug resistance,'"


Read this.
https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/about-us/news-centre/could-antiseptic-mouthwash-reduce-sexually-transmitted-infections-and-improve-sex-life-australians

Wee0502
15-07-2024, 10:03 AM
There's nothing definitive in that:

"'My previous work has shown that antiseptic mouthwash could be a potential preventive strategy for throat gonorrhoea and if mouthwash is shown to be effective, we can reduce the use of antibiotics in the era of multidrug resistance,'"

Up to you to believe. I stick to asking every FL or ML to rinse before they do BBBJ on me. I am a firm believer of requirement of sufficient viral/bacteria load before any transmission can occur.

727978

spermy
15-07-2024, 10:18 AM
Up to you to believe. I stick to asking every FL or ML to rinse before they do BBBJ on me. I am a firm believer of requirement of sufficient viral/bacteria load before any transmission can occur.



You're basing your health on something that is not definitive and it's over four years ago. If his studies were successful, we would be hearing a lot more about it by now.

Wee0502
15-07-2024, 10:28 AM
You're basing your health on something that is not definitive and it's over four years ago. If his studies were successful, we would be hearing a lot more about it by now.

No lah, I based it on my own experience as well. Last time before I Cheong, I had a gf. Then that time still young, so not really aware of this. I always paint her, occasionally she contracted urethritis. After that, I changed to using mouth rinse every time before the deed, she had no reoccurrence of urethritis.

Those high class FL that I engaged, they also stick to this method. If it is not effective, why would they stick to this? Like what I said, you can opt for capped BJ, no painting, no frenching to minimize your risk, but what is the fun of that? Most of the STDs are highly treatable with antibiotics.

I have come to an age that I am willing to take risk to have as much fun as possible.

Fanatic
15-07-2024, 10:49 AM
Just throwing it out there for you people to consider, when you do CBJ, do you change the condom or use the same one to have sex.

Wee0502
15-07-2024, 10:55 AM
Just throwing it out there for you people to consider, when you do CBJ, do you change the condom or use the same one to have sex.

I will ask her to throw away the condom, rinse her mouth and perform a BBBJ followed by a capped FJ. If you do a capped BJ, might as well don’t do, no feeling at all d.

Ray06
15-07-2024, 01:58 PM
I will ask her to throw away the condom, rinse her mouth and perform a BBBJ followed by a capped FJ. If you do a capped BJ, might as well don’t do, no feeling at all d.

Why is capped BJ got no feeling and capped FJ can have feeling?

aliwangwang
16-07-2024, 01:26 AM
That's right. The famous one.

Still being actively advertised here 😱

spermy
21-07-2024, 04:11 PM
Why is capped BJ got no feeling and capped FJ can have feeling?

Good question.

Recon3
27-07-2024, 11:38 PM
Good question.

Still have feeling, just lesser. You'll feel less heat/warm, especially if the giver gargled warm/cold water just prior to the bj.

kinkyguy22
28-07-2024, 08:10 AM
Being ignorant seems better...I read this post now I start to worried already...I think most spa I better settle for HJ will do..BBBJ so low chances also kana...nowadays so many Viet RAW ML.....really scary...Guess really need to practice CBJ from now onwards...

Damn…. Really many viet ML offer raw?

sladang
28-07-2024, 09:15 AM
Still have feeling, just lesser. You'll feel less heat/warm, especially if the giver gargled warm/cold water just prior to the bj.

That's to say capped HJ, capped BJ, capped FJ, capped AJ all still hv feeling la :D ..

Recon3
29-07-2024, 01:16 PM
That's to say capped HJ, capped BJ, capped FJ, capped AJ all still hv feeling la :D ..

你赢。

Then imagine it like Mala. 微辣,小辣,中辣,大辣,火辣,超级辣

NottyMonkey
29-07-2024, 04:11 PM
你赢。

Then imagine it like Mala. 微辣,小辣,中辣,大辣,火辣,超级辣

55555 good one. upz you my humble 19s :D:D:D

timeliness
29-07-2024, 06:57 PM
你赢。

Then imagine it like Mala. 微辣,小辣,中辣,大辣,火辣,超级辣

And then there's also 变态辣 for those who like to play other stuff too 🤣