Bros need to unite to stop ridiculous inflation

[AlexFerguson1]

Went to a recommended spa (near bugis) for massage. During GQ was quoted $100 for hj, I responded so much just for hj? The exact reply I got was "our shop here all is this price for that and nothing else". This is getting out of hand. Service is getting worse but price is doubling. ML and most KTVs are not serving as well as pre-covid, not even comparing to 10 years or 20 years ago but prices increased at least double (our salary not doubled).

[Cherrypink4940]

Please openly name the shop so we can avoid and boycott

[3someking]

You want people to stop going then u must name the place lah.

Name and shame. So hard meh?

[Chewwsy]

What is the point of posting this without naming the shop and address?

[AlexFerguson1]

so sorry. was too agitated. wanted to name it at the end of the post then forgot.
It is Le Duo spa. Even my timing was eaten. was only served for 40min because shop is closing, admittedly i took the last slot but still grrrrrr

[AlexFerguson1]

anyway i am sure not just this shop, many places and ladies keep decreasing their standards but increasing the price so we all have to stop giving in, else it will only get crazier.

[Chewwsy]

so sorry. was too agitated. wanted to name it at the end of the post then forgot.
It is Le Duo spa. Even my timing was eaten. was only served for 40min because shop is closing, admittedly i took the last slot but still grrrrrr

Is this the address?
14 Bali Lane, Singapore 189850

[AlexFerguson1]

first zap from a supporter of that spa. expected it when i name it.

[AlexFerguson1]

Is this the address?
14 Bali Lane, Singapore 189850

yes you are right

[Chewwsy]

yes you are right

Thanks for the clarification. Added to my list of blacklisted Spa.

Another Spa you need to avoid is Jin Yu Spa at 13 Opal Crescent S328408. I was quoted $150 just for HJ.

[AlexFerguson1]

Thanks for the clarification. Added to my list of blacklisted Spa.

Another Spa you need to avoid is Jin Yu Spa at 13 Opal Crescent S328408. I was quoted $150 just for HJ.

experienced that place too. i got zap thrice after naming the spa. that is fast. haha.

[TheTrader2359]

Went to a recommended spa (near bugis) for massage. During GQ was quoted $100 for hj, I responded so much just for hj? The exact reply I got was "our shop here all is this price for that and nothing else". This is getting out of hand. Service is getting worse but price is doubling. ML and most KTVs are not serving as well as pre-covid, not even comparing to 10 years or 20 years ago but prices increased at least double (our salary not doubled).

always the same story… Why didn’t you walk away when quoted 100 for HJ? previously a ML quoted me 130 for FJ.. but already paid 60 for entrance.. so total 190.

she didn’t even strip naked.. just pull up skirt and shirt. I insisted that she strip for FJ but she still refused..I told her fuck it la… wore my clothes and walked off.. she curse me all the way to the door lol

[TheTrader2359]

experienced that place too. i got zap thrice after naming the spa. that is fast. haha.

upped you for naming the spa

[3someking]

experienced that place too. i got zap thrice after naming the spa. that is fast. haha.

Ups you points for bravery and sharing the joint name.

[deathnitez]

Thanks for the clarification. Added to my list of blacklisted Spa.

Another Spa you need to avoid is Jin Yu Spa at 13 Opal Crescent S328408. I was quoted $150 just for HJ.

Think I did warn about spas around this area including this but guess the thread got delete.....

[talismann]

Sorry to hear about your misadventure.

[HonkyTonkyMan]

Service is getting worse but price is doubling. ML and most KTVs are not serving as well as pre-covid, not even comparing to 10 years or 20 years ago but prices increased at least double (our salary not doubled).

many years ago a masseur told me price increase cos no business, to me that is the stupidest and silliest of excuse to use to justify price increase...to cover a drop in business they hope to top the difference with a hike..

[AlexFerguson1]

many years ago a masseur told me price increase cos no business, to me that is the stupidest and silliest of excuse to use to justify price increase...to cover a drop in business they hope to top the difference with a hike..


they think that 10 x $100 is the same as 5 x $200 but they never consider that the remaining 5 customers will also stop coming because of the price hike. Though it is true there will still be carrots which spoil the market.

[AlexFerguson1]

Recently experienced another disappointment at Wyn Wellness. Quote from the masseur "if $150 only i wont do bj. this amount i can easily cover from doing $100 hj quickly" which in my ears is because she is spoilt by $100 hj from carrots she price her bj much higher.

[18_hands]

Recently experienced another disappointment at Wyn Wellness. Quote from the masseur "if $150 only i wont do bj. this amount i can easily cover from doing $100 hj quickly" which in my ears is because she is spoilt by $100 hj from carrots she price her bj much higher.

Bro add your spa to this thread.
https://sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=985876&page=11

[Peacekeeping]

In Malaysia pay 100 ringgit can grab natural d cup breasts, grab until shiok shiok

[LovesMilktea]

you can nego with them, you can reject the service if price was not right

[YaKunKaya]

Recently experienced another disappointment at Wyn Wellness. Quote from the masseur "if $150 only i wont do bj. this amount i can easily cover from doing $100 hj quickly" which in my ears is because she is spoilt by $100 hj from carrots she price her bj much higher.

Can share which ml? Upped your points for bravery salute.jpg

[AlexFerguson1]

Can share which ml? Upped your points for bravery salute.jpg

Mon. Thanks for the up although u have 0 power :p

[shiroi]

Don’t say massage . Those ktv night club give mummy $100 and $300 for bj already damn stupid liao. Many year dont go night club liao

[orangeredyellow]

Recently experienced another disappointment at Wyn Wellness. Quote from the masseur "if $150 only i wont do bj. this amount i can easily cover from doing $100 hj quickly" which in my ears is because she is spoilt by $100 hj from carrots she price her bj much higher.

Which ML said this? Can PM me?

[AlexFerguson1]

Which ML said this? Can PM me?

Moni** its really a disappointment

[owenfang]

Bro
$100 is ridiculous for HJ
I doubt there GFE

[Autumnsun]

Went to a recommended spa (near bugis) for massage. During GQ was quoted $100 for hj, I responded so much just for hj? The exact reply I got was "our shop here all is this price for that and nothing else". This is getting out of hand. Service is getting worse but price is doubling. ML and most KTVs are not serving as well as pre-covid, not even comparing to 10 years or 20 years ago but prices increased at least double (our salary not doubled).

This is + roaming right? A lot of cat 1 are going at this rate

[YoungLad]

This is + roaming right? A lot of cat 1 are going at this rate

Because of that, this thread was made to spread awareness and unite us

[liketosleep]

Inflation is everywhere after the COVID-19 pandemic, the Russian Ukraine War and supply chain disruptions. In July 2024, MOM has upped the local qualifying salary to SGD 1600 per month .Hence the foreign massage ladies are expected to foot the phantom workers' CPF contributions in order to work here. The costs are passed on to us. The Sg government benefits all the time. One old man told me there is many rich men around and can afford the chop carrot prices. One old man could fork out SGD 800,000 twice while on bail. First one under investigation and second one is to go overseas to attend meetings and medical appointments.

[kuku69]

These days if they ask for $100 for HJ, I will just say thanks but no thanks. Just doesn’t make sense. If you try to bargain to $80 or lesser and if they agree. They will just do it mechanically and tell you no interaction. Gone are the good old days. Sigh.

[Anotherboi]

This is + roaming right? A lot of cat 1 are going at this rate

I think even +roaming 100 for hj is ridiculous. I rather go for bj at that rate and usually it comes with roaming too.

[wphe]

Moni** its really a disappointment

Upped your pts. Bro

[wphe]

These days if they ask for $100 for HJ, I will just say thanks but no thanks. Just doesn’t make sense. If you try to bargain to $80 or lesser and if they agree. They will just do it mechanically and tell you no interaction. Gone are the good old days. Sigh.

Upped you bro

[Xyberduke]

Inflation needs to be tackled with your vote during GE.

Was in Taiwan and the prices were just half of SG’s because the daily necessities and food there are 1/3 the prices here.

Now MLs even choose to live illegally in the shop to save rent unlike the past.


Anyway, sometimes they try their luck for $100 HJ. I will say thank you and continue the full massage… they need to choose between getting $50 to cut short the tiring massage or continue their work for $0. My reg at Jurong East whom I follow from the South did the same to me saying her rental higher and her new shop market rate is 2B. I told her I will not drive all the way down to see her anymore if that is the case, and we were back to 1B.

[Tryout888]

Release urge somewhere else, when quote too high for all services :o
End of the day, is their loss for not having business in these competitive scene.

[loudexhaust]

Stick the $50 on your forehead. Masturbate. Collect back your $50. Viola! Money saved and your needs satisfied.

[horny7878]

Inflation needs to be tackled with your vote during GE.

Now MLs even choose to live illegally in the shop to save rent unlike the past.

.

The MLs stay in the shop not to save rent. They stay in the shop so to save time travelling or to do more jobs during the wee hours

They have to pay rent to stay in the shop as well and it’s not really cheap

[WarNut]

Yeah bro! Some people would still be alright to pay the price. But just put the shop name and the service provider so we could at least be informed and decide for ourselves.

[Dddnoob]

Moni** its really a disappointment
All also same same bro tht wyn shop all knife shop shop esp the wendy need 100 for hj n roaming .

[pikachu007]

I engage one of the lady advertised on forum.
Was quoted $300 for 2 hours inclusive of Nuru. After 20 minutes of nuru, was offered second person nuru together @ additional $300.

Last but not least gave tips at the end. Is this normal?

[Acer09]

I agree that we should maintain the market rate. BUT when the ML is my type or quite chio and put more efforts in teasing and more strength during massage, I will tend to tip more. So indirectly up the expectation of the ML.

To me, I appreciate sensual and good teasing instead of just use fingers to touch my butt and inner thigh area. That’s is not teasing. For those, I will strictly keep to market rate.

[AlexFerguson1]

All also same same bro tht wyn shop all knife shop shop esp the wendy need 100 for hj n roaming .


ya. so now just avoiding them altogether. this money can get so much more from girls in ktv

[HornyMan]

As a general rule of thumb, unless you hv deep pocket, those spas which hv two options on their menu, 1st is ~$68 for the so called “normal finger press” which excludes lower part of body and ~$88-$89 which include, should be automatically on the banned list as default.
Use our big heads to think, not our small heads. Small heads are for poking into juicy holes, not for thinking!
Spend a bit of time reading the forum and pay attention, and you will be able to avoid paying 冤枉钱.
There are many SPAs where one could spend <=$68 and get a good whole body massage by skillful and good looking MLs.
$68 should be the upper limit unless it is high class environment which is a diff story.

P/S:
Considering one could still get a very good massage with full service by a ML in her 20s for 2B2R all in, paying $89 just for a massage is just not worth it.

[jttl3080]

As a general rule of thumb, unless you hv deep pocket, those spas which hv two options on their menu, 1st is ~$68 for the so called “normal finger press” which excludes lower part of body and ~$88-$89 which include, should be automatically on the banned list as default.
Use our big heads to think, not our small heads. Small heads are for poking into juicy holes, not for thinking!
Spend a bit of time reading the forum and pay attention, and you will be able to avoid paying 冤枉钱.
There are many SPAs where one could spend <=$68 and get a good whole body massage by skillful and good looking MLs.
$68 should be the upper limit unless it is high class environment which is a diff story.

P/S:
Considering one could still get a very good massage with full service by a ML in her 20s for 2B2R all in, paying $89 just for a massage is just not worth it.
Totally agree with this point, I always avoid $88/$89 spas or those that try to upsell by saying $68 only have upper back no full body massage. When I go MPs and the ML complain to me they lack customers, I always tell them is their boss fault or those $88 spas for setting entry prices too high, until us customers take our money go other playgrounds already.

One time, I went to a $88 spa only because it’s the only one open at that late hour. Bobian have to pay $88 and was surprised when the ML told me alot of her customers come for $88 option and have no issues with it. So please, we have to do our part and help adjust back the market by deflating the $88 entry fee.

[melloncollied]

Inflation needs to be tackled with your vote during GE.

Was in Taiwan and the prices were just half of SG’s because the daily necessities and food there are 1/3 the prices here.

Now MLs even choose to live illegally in the shop to save rent unlike the past.


Anyway, sometimes they try their luck for $100 HJ. I will say thank you and continue the full massage… they need to choose between getting $50 to cut short the tiring massage or continue their work for $0. My reg at Jurong East whom I follow from the South did the same to me saying her rental higher and her new shop market rate is 2B. I told her I will not drive all the way down to see her anymore if that is the case, and we were back to 1B.

can someone explain what is 1b or 2br or whatever the terms. i rly noob sia haha!

[loneyheart]

can someone explain what is 1b or 2br or whatever the terms. i rly noob sia haha!

Colour of SGD bro
1 Blue $50
1 Red $10
:)

[melloncollied]

Colour of SGD bro
1 Blue $50
1 Red $10
:)

thank u sir hahah!

[nkyc]

I engage one of the lady advertised on forum.
Was quoted $300 for 2 hours inclusive of Nuru. After 20 minutes of nuru, was offered second person nuru together @ additional $300.

Last but not least gave tips at the end. Is this normal?

Omg no.... I paid 250 all in for 2 gals recently at a pretty famous spa in tiong bahru area

[pikachu007]

Omg no.... I paid 250 all in for 2 gals recently at a pretty famous spa in tiong bahru area

Wah I really kena chop carrot. The place I went to are not really a spa but a shophouse or something.

[Autumnsun]

Wah I really kena chop carrot. The place I went to are not really a spa but a shophouse or something.

Confirm chop hard. Like U mention, 2nd person came in so much later, why is it a full 2hr price?

no business, so pull in another "sister" to earn X2. Coming in when your blood is filling the other head, hard to reject them or nego. Not the 1st time hearing such story, some would even try to taunt you if U reject them by calling stringy or cmi

Please give street name/ ml name, so we can avoid too

[necrolim]

Wah I really kena chop carrot. The place I went to are not really a spa but a shophouse or something.

Red flag. PLease tell us so we can avoid..

[bigmannow]

Nowadays I see 60 min already $60 minimum , no more $50

[pikachu007]

Not nice to share leh. Later kena trouble. It’s from one of the many advertisement that you see on the forum. I thought maybe that’s the market rate and just paid without asking much question.

[RedFurBull]

Not nice to share leh. Later kena trouble. It’s from one of the many advertisement that you see on the forum. I thought maybe that’s the market rate and just paid without asking much question.

U mean like the one at Blk 644 Bukit Batok Central? ;)

[bambo]

Was quoted $150 for hj from one of the spa at bukit timah. The massue still can tellnme thats bkt timah rate. Crazy shit. Counter girl still can sell you $10 member fee. 10 times foc 1 time. Lol

[Dddnoob]

Not nice to share leh. Later kena trouble. It’s from one of the many advertisement that you see on the forum. I thought maybe that’s the market rate and just paid without asking much question.

ninki @ east ?

[WongFeiHong]

always the same story… Why didn’t you walk away when quoted 100 for HJ? previously a ML quoted me 130 for FJ.. but already paid 60 for entrance.. so total 190.

she didn’t even strip naked.. just pull up skirt and shirt. I insisted that she strip for FJ but she still refused..I told her fuck it la… wore my clothes and walked off.. she curse me all the way to the door lol

Hmmm not wise for ML to do this because you can always report the shop. So usually smart ML will just suck thumb and move on.

[DannyW]

Recently there are some viet ladies advertised here or in telegram group and their price is quite reasonable. Ticket + fj all in 150 - 200$, the quality of course cannot be compared with ktv girls but i think it’s still acceptable especially for some with decent massage skills.

[ToTo1985]

I agree that we should maintain the market rate. BUT when the ML is my type or quite chio and put more efforts in teasing and more strength during massage, I will tend to tip more. So indirectly up the expectation of the ML.

Bro, if the ml is your type, should be market rate then add tip
But sometime their pricing abit fk up like 2b3r sometime i just give 3b

[Madhatter15]

support this thread! i caught up with the earlier posts and realise a lot of fake FRs in some MP advertisement threads, even from some senior bros. jialat. tread with caution. too many landmines now

[CBTanHanWei]

Went to a recommended spa (near bugis) for massage. During GQ was quoted $100 for hj, I responded so much just for hj? The exact reply I got was "our shop here all is this price for that and nothing else". This is getting out of hand. Service is getting worse but price is doubling. ML and most KTVs are not serving as well as pre-covid, not even comparing to 10 years or 20 years ago but prices increased at least double (our salary not doubled).

$100 for HJ? Might as you whank yourself & save $100.

[superstiffy]

if you do before $30 hj.. u think $50 expensive liao.. u hear $100 u will walk out... but this one for lao jiao cheongster....

those cheongster kkj hair just come out.. virgin experience already $100... to them this is market price... so ok mah... where got expensive?

i ask u all how to unite leh? this overpay for greedy ml topic keep saying saying but got use meh? no use one la... save the energy go and look for those reasonable price spa better.. :D

[HSB2000]

Recently there are some viet ladies advertised here or in telegram group and their price is quite reasonable. Ticket + fj all in 150 - 200$, the quality of course cannot be compared with ktv girls but i think it’s still acceptable especially for some with decent massage skills.

$150-200 for viet you considered acceptable? GL way cheaper lah

[jsmith1212]

Not possible to unite one haha. This kind of thing needs experience. At one point I also frequented $88 shop, cause I thought that was the only option.

Took some time to explore a bit more then realize that oh, there are much more other options out there.

End of the day also depend on the lady no? I've gotten full svc from MLs for $50 (they themselves want), think max I've went is $120 tips, but maybe because I'm a bit pickier. But if don't want you offer $300 they also consider, heng suay one la, just learn from it.

End of the day, there is demand for that kinda vanilla $100 hj, if not they won't be popping up like mushrooms in housing estates.

[sladang]

if you do before $30 hj.. u think $50 expensive liao.. u hear $100 u will walk out... but this one for lao jiao cheongster....

those cheongster kkj hair just come out.. virgin experience already $100... to them this is market price... so ok mah... where got expensive?

i ask u all how to unite leh? this overpay for greedy ml topic keep saying saying but got use meh? no use one la... save the energy go and look for those reasonable price spa better.. :D

Yeah, juz like saying:

COE up & up so we need to unite together and dun buy car?

GST up & up so we need to unite together and dun buy anything?

Houses up & up so we need to unite together and dun buy house?

Chicken prize up & up so we need to unite together and dun call chicken?

Like that can arh? cannot lah, why? very simple, u dun, others do, tio bo?:D ..

[superstiffy]

Yeah, juz like saying:

COE up & up so we need to unite together and dun buy car?

GST up & up so we need to unite together and dun buy anything?

Houses up & up so we need to unite together and dun buy house?

Chicken prize up & up so we need to unite together and dun call chicken?

Like that can arh? cannot lah, why? very simple, u dun, others do, tio bo?:D ..

dun like say leh... this one is singaporean special skill hor... something dun like just kpkb.. after kpkb liao still pay and pay...

off topic... u know which spa can use NS credit? :D

[ToTo1985]

off topic... u know which spa can use NS credit? :D

Bro, you referring to the $200 one ah?
Best draw out and use cash
Can use youtrip account, full 200 out

[ceeko]

My tactic is $30... u want u HJ

If not I walk off ownself HJ.

Usually it gets the job done.

I don't succumb to $100 HJ. U all are too fucking loaded and thinking with your kkj!

[RedFurBull]

U mean like the one at Blk 644 Bukit Batok Central? ;)

Since we are on 644 BB Central - here’s my FR on one of the popular shops there, honest FR dun worry:

Saw a fake FR saying this shop has tarma bbbj, of course I dun believe but I went there to verify anyway.

Look for whom the advertiser suggested : Lucky
She’s quite pretty n genuine. Massage started off well, she knows how to care for the accupoints quite on the spot. I know she’s desperate for money cos I was sweaty n she didn’t even bother to ask me to bathe, just put a towel over my body to hide my sweat. After about 30min, she whispered in my ear telling me her colleague had no business, how about tarma, very nice one.

It didn’t come as a shock cos I was there to verify that no such things exist, not in SG n not in a curtain joint. More so for MLs who are desperate to make quick buck, they’ll just make sure u shoot quick n collect money n out u go.

So the second ML came in, I just see how they ‘wayang’ - trust enough, lucky just HJ me as fast as she could as if I’m not worth her time - the friend just breathe into my ear whispering sweet nothings - Ge Ge do u feel good? In Chinese of course, I dun expect GFE, but treating us like fools is what irks me.

I wanted to ask them to stop the wayang but the HJ was so ferocious that I just shoot in a short time - I’m so glad cos I just want to get out asap.

Charged 4B n I was told it’s a discounted price - I just laughed it off cos well, at least I debunked the fake FR that there’s such a thing as tarma bbbj at curtain joint.

I dun even remember what the 2nd ML looks like, at least she has no bad breathe, heng ah ;)

Lucky is still quite pleasant looking in my opinion, just dun be tricked into thinking that u can get a tarma bbbj there.

Enjoy.

[shibuyastreet]

Went to a recommended spa (near bugis) for massage. During GQ was quoted $100 for hj, I responded so much just for hj? The exact reply I got was "our shop here all is this price for that and nothing else". This is getting out of hand. Service is getting worse but price is doubling. ML and most KTVs are not serving as well as pre-covid, not even comparing to 10 years or 20 years ago but prices increased at least double (our salary not doubled).

My stand has always been $50 for a HJ including top roaming. Nothing more.

If the ML insists on $100 for HJ and top roaming, I will just reject the extras altogether and not let her earn anything extra from the session.

With regards to the massage price - yes for many places $88/$89 oil massages have become the norm, but there are still $55 massages in town. And the MLs there still charge $50 for HJ and top roaming. Total damage $105.

The trick is to continue going back as a regular to the $55 + $50 shops and not give business to the $89 + $100 shops.

[piichai]

My stand has always been $50 for a HJ including top roaming. Nothing more.


Fine, What if you want something more (other than standard menu) from this particular regular ML? Are you willing to fork out little more?

[sladang]

My stand has always been $50 for a HJ including top roaming. Nothing more. .

$50 for HJ including top roaming is merely for roaming from outside, if u put your hand inside her bra or she lifts up her bra for u to roam inside, mostly it's 80 for inside roaming, the MLs noe how much they are worth :D ..

[paulcum2sooon]

It's a free market - prices will always be all over the place, it's always about the willing customer.

I fully agree, there are some MLS that can provide an amazing massage and what follows after can also be amazing, however 'happy' the package offered.

For myself, it's about the massage first. Anything after, If the price offered doesn't match what's standing Infront of me and how the proposition is made, I will simply wrap my session and head over to geylang for a proper release.

[shibuyastreet]

Fine, What if you want something more (other than standard menu) from this particular regular ML? Are you willing to fork out little more?

For the spas and MLs that I frequent, it's $50 for HJ and $80 for BBBJ. Includes top roaming. Price hasn't changed for years.

When I want something other than the standard menu - e.g. I want to DFK the ML, would like to lick her tits, would like her to lick my nipples - as her regular customer it has been provided all inclusive. So in the end I still pay the same $50 tips for HJ and everything else.

$50 for HJ including top roaming is merely for roaming from outside, if u put your hand inside her bra or she lifts up her bra for u to roam inside, mostly it's 80 for inside roaming, the MLs noe how much they are worth :D ..

For the spas and MLs that I frequent at least, when I do top roaming my hand is always inside her clothes touching her breasts directly. Bra will also be lifted up. If an ML wants to charge me for top roaming only outside over clothes I will just reject.

Ultimately many other customers here don't go to the same shops and same MLs that I go to so they may not agree. But the reality is that many of the MLs (PRC especially) have a WeChat group where they all agree to a price collusion and agree to insist on newly inflated prices that applies to their entire shop.

So eventually, the market rate for me is different from the market rate for someone else because I'm willing to reject price increases but probably other bros do not.

[lothariokim]

$50 for HJ including top roaming is merely for roaming from outside, if u put your hand inside her bra or she lifts up her bra for u to roam inside, mostly it's 80 for inside roaming, the MLs noe how much they are worth :D ..

This is so not true.

[nyxes]

It really depends, YMMV. I can get away with $80 extra for 5G roaming including touching under her bra and touching/tickling her kitty under her panties but no finger penetration with my usual ML but it took me months of building up "professional relationship" .

I am sure there are bros who can get to finger their regular ML for $80. It takes building up "professional relationship" over a period of time.

Try to be a regular with a ML you fancy and try at least engaging them once a month and build some "professional relationship" with her and work from there.

Of cos if you try a new ML and they try to scam you like 2B for HJ, 3B for HJ + roaming etc... just cut loss reject them and just pay for the massage. Learn to ignore their black face and rude treatment after that.

[rundevilrun87]

$50 for HJ including top roaming is merely for roaming from outside, if u put your hand inside her bra or she lifts up her bra for u to roam inside, mostly it's 80 for inside roaming, the MLs noe how much they are worth :D ..

It really depends, YMMV. I can get away with $80 extra for 5G roaming including touching under her bra and touching/tickling her kitty under her panties but no finger penetration with my usual ML but it took me months of building up "professional relationship" .

I am sure there are bros who can get to finger their regular ML for $80. It takes building up "professional relationship" over a period of time.

Try to be a regular with a ML you fancy and try at least engaging them once a month and build some "professional relationship" with her and work from there.

Of cos if you try a new ML and they try to scam you like 2B for HJ, 3B for HJ + roaming etc... just cut loss reject them and just pay for the massage. Learn to ignore their black face and rude treatment after that.

agreed 2B for basic HJ and nothing else is a bit wtf, 3B for roam is double wtf

of course there will be 1B FJs out there but (likely) some fat washed up ML and u better have CD

this is a sane balanced view. MLs who have good tits for zhut zhut probably gonna command 1b2r to 1b3r and believe me im a big tits guy who dont mind exploring untested MLs. sometimes unfortunately compromise a bit for quality

on a side note, if any bros got good tits for 1B sucking pls intro:(

[samsung2292]

Always small head think big

[nyxes]

agreed 2B for basic HJ and nothing else is a bit wtf, 3B for roam is double wtf

of course there will be 1B FJs out there but (likely) some fat washed up ML and u better have CD

this is a sane balanced view. MLs who have good tits for zhut zhut probably gonna command 1b2r to 1b3r and believe me im a big tits guy who dont mind exploring untested MLs. sometimes unfortunately compromise a bit for quality

on a side note, if any bros got good tits for 1B sucking pls intro:(

I am not a fan of zhut zhut tits due to hygiene reasons... from my KTV days back then... they don't wipe and clean their titties as often as their kitty due to UTI...

[rundevilrun87]

I am not a fan of zhut zhut tits due to hygiene reasons... from my KTV days back then... they don't wipe and clean their titties as often as their kitty due to UTI...

can understand your view bro but im too much of a sucker(literally) lol

but i agree with you on building chemistry, feels like an art of chionging MLs vs straight paying at FJ joints

[GilbertHx]

Everytime I go spa I always bring zhun zhun $50-$80 just in case my small head took over so I don’t overpaid. Just tell the ML I didn’t bring enough I only bring max $80 , if you want you accept this amount if not don’t do.. sometimes they LL also just do unable to chop me.. but then of course there are moments ML also will don’t do don’t do loh

[sladang]

This is so not true.

Then what is true? u pay 100 or 150 juz for top roaming inside oni, excluding the entrance fee izzit? :D ..

[lothariokim]

Then what is true? u pay 100 or 150 juz for top roaming inside oni, excluding the entrance fee izzit? :D ..


$50 for HJ including top roaming is merely for roaming from outside, if u put your hand inside her bra or she lifts up her bra for u to roam inside, mostly it's 80 for inside roaming, the MLs noe how much they are worth

What I don't agree is this quote above. We don't have to pay more than $50 just to roam inside her clothes. Is true that some ML will demand more if you want to dig down there, but roaming inside her bra is almost automatic if she allow you to roam to begin with.

Maybe you go to high class places that peasants like me can't afford, I don't know.

[SGBJ2016]

It really depends, YMMV. I can get away with $80 extra for 5G roaming including touching under her bra and touching/tickling her kitty under her panties but no finger penetration with my usual ML but it took me months of building up "professional relationship" .

I am sure there are bros who can get to finger their regular ML for $80. It takes building up "professional relationship" over a period of time.

Try to be a regular with a ML you fancy and try at least engaging them once a month and build some "professional relationship" with her and work from there.

Of cos if you try a new ML and they try to scam you like 2B for HJ, 3B for HJ + roaming etc... just cut loss reject them and just pay for the massage. Learn to ignore their black face and rude treatment after that.

Agree. My rules are similar.
On first visit if the ML rate is reasonable, she is friendly and hygienic and allows basic touching I’ll return. I’ll try to build relationship from there and hope it improves by third/fourth visit. It is understandable that a woman won’t be comfortable with touch of an unknown man on first visit. Actually these are often the MLs who later turn out to be sweeter and provide better gfe later on vs those who are very open on first visit.

However, if the ML still doesn’t become open to my advances on 3rd/4th visit I’ll simply drop her no matter how great her massage is. I need more than just massage.

If an ML asks for 2B / 3B for HJ without roaming on first visit, I never visit her again.

[javasql]

Agree. My rules are similar.
On first visit if the ML rate is reasonable, she is friendly and hygienic and allows basic touching I’ll return. I’ll try to build relationship from there and hope it improves by third/fourth visit. It is understandable that a woman won’t be comfortable with touch of an unknown man on first visit. Actually these are often the MLs who later turn out to be sweeter and provide better gfe later on vs those who are very open on first visit.

However, if the ML still doesn’t become open to my advances on 3rd/4th visit I’ll simply drop her no matter how great her massage is. I need more than just massage.

If an ML asks for 2B / 3B for HJ without roaming on first visit, I never visit her again.

Couldnt agree more with you bro. Have upped u for sharing ctcs with me.

[SadLoser]

Sometimes its not about the ML but rather the joint.

Some of the newer spas which are advertising aggressively here, all the MLs will request for $100 HJ with roam. They all collude and insist on a high price to drive the general prices up.

The older spas under like X-Wellness, M*M* spa are the best. Reasonable entrance fees and extras only $50


It really depends, YMMV. I can get away with $80 extra for 5G roaming including touching under her bra and touching/tickling her kitty under her panties but no finger penetration with my usual ML but it took me months of building up "professional relationship" .

I am sure there are bros who can get to finger their regular ML for $80. It takes building up "professional relationship" over a period of time.

Try to be a regular with a ML you fancy and try at least engaging them once a month and build some "professional relationship" with her and work from there.