Thai "holiday gf"? Anyone had something like this before?
 

This is going to be long, so it's only for those who have the time to read :)

I go to BKK once every 1.5 to 2 months on average for work (each time for about a week). Other weeks I'm mostly traveling around the region.
On one of the trips, I went to one of the F shops, and RTFed this nice lady (early 30s, slim, no tattoos, quite pretty in my eyes) a few times on 2-3 trips.
She was more passionate than most - a lot of GFE, hugging, DFK blah blah, always did her hardest to give me a good time. Unfortunately she doesn't know much English though, but I got to learn bits and pieces about her through simple words and Google translate.

Eventually I got her contact and invited her for a late mookrata after her work. Following day invited her to my hotel after her work at about 10pm. We basically F-ed like rabbits until 1-2am before I had to leave for my flight, we kissed goodbye and she called her own Grab home. I was expecting her to ask for money after that but she did not, in fact I found it surprising that she was still OK to F after she's had a full day of working as a WL at the shop.

I also started bringing her out to explore the city together. We did a lot of stuff that typical couples do - trying new restaurants, trying street food, bowling, etc, lots of hand-holding/hugging/affection outside. She seemed like a "simple" girl and was honestly happy with whatever I wanted to do or eat, even if it's just simple food that costs under 100 baht. I always ask her to choose what she wants from the menu and she always just chooses the cheaper items. I'm the one who wants to eat better stuff usually. Of course I (took the initiative to) foot all the food bills but I'm happy to (and she makes it a point to thank me after every meal) and anyway it's quite cheap as I never eat at high end places, so I have zero problems.
She is also very polite to everyone she sees - waitstaff, grab drivers, people outside etc, maybe it's how all Thais behave but it's something I really liked.
When we go to a pharmacy etc, she just takes the initiative to pay for her own skincare/hygiene products, and I let her.
Overall it was honestly great.. daytime I either work/meet clients, or go out with her if I'm free, and at night we always have mindblowing sex (one thing - she sometimes tells me no "boom boom" (jokingly? can't tell) when we're in my room, but once I start licking her nips or frenching her, she starts going crazy and becomes a nympho. It's not hard at all to make her go for 2 rounds a night).
On one of the nights I accidentally entered her raw while we were fooling around in the bathtub, and when we progressed to the bed I continued that way. Not sure what happened but when I was about to cum, I asked if I could cum inside her (kind of in the heat of passion but I wasn't expecting a Yes to be honest). She actually said yes. She doesn't know anything much about me so if she got pregnant, I could have disappeared and she couldn't do anything, so at that time it felt weird. Anyway, I eventually found out that she takes those morning-after pills (when we went into a pharmacy and she bought the pills - first time I knew of those pills to be honest, she was rather surprised that I didn't know).

(Yes, I know it's very risky to go raw especially with a WL, I'm going in with both eyes open and I do regular HIV tests. The feeling of cumming inside is really too good to resist especially with her.. it's those kind of highly charged, passionate orgasms when hugging her tightly and cumming hard into her and feeling her quivering together with me).

We went on like this for another of my trips to BKK, then on one of the days while I was in Bangkok, I asked if she was free to meet, and she suddenly told me that she had quit her job at the F shop, and needed time that day to sort things out and couldn't meet on the day itself. She didn't give much details and I didn't probe.. but it seemed like she had totally quit working a regular job at the F shops, because she was basically free to hang out with me the whole day, for my whole trip (albeit a short one). And this continued for the next few trips where she seemed to be able to drop everything to be with me for nearly the entire day and night. She did say she had started an online clothing business... although how much could she earn from there?

I recently brought her on a 4-day trip to Hua Hin and we had such a great time too.. exploring in the day, relaxing by the beach or pool, morning wake-up sex, occasional afternoon sex, and late night sex while on a moderate amount of alcohol (she doesn't drink much but indulges me, we had a lot of fun trying different new drinks from 7-11). We always did it raw and I always finished inside her... in short, we really behaved a lot like regular couples (but never had any long/serious conversations due to language barrier). As usual she never asked for money ever (even paying for moderately expensive meals once in a while like 400-500 baht total when it was more convenient to pay by QR code), and she always says she is doing fine when I ask her about her life and business, though she says she has no real passion and doesn't know what she really wants to do.

Having read a lot of stories online, I've always expected her to start telling me about her sick mother blah blah, but she never did on any of the occasions we've met (I've known her for nearly a year already). In fact she tells me her parents are doing great and they have a decent house and farm in Isan.
Another thing is, we actually hardly text once I'm out of Bangkok, maybe 1 or 2 texts every few days and we could go weeks without texting until I tell her I'm coming "next week".

Her background: She is from Isan and she has a child with a Thai husband from fairly long ago.. she used to run a few mookata shops but things turned sour with her husband who was a gaming and gambling addict (who eventually took his own life when she left him - she opened this info up to me recently), and after she closed all the shops, she worked for 4 years in Korea as a WL (something she shared quite early on). She had a BF while working there for a while, but eventually ended the r/s when she was caught in a raid and had to leave Korea.

What's going on here? I'm expecting that she might be freelancing (surely her newly started online clothing business can't be earning her much given there's so much competition), yet she doesn't hide her phone at all while with me (she's mostly just on tiktok/instagram/facebook doomscrolling, calling family sometimes, or texting her friend occasionally in Thai). And she never asks me to buy her anything, and doesn't even want to shop when we're together. I had to force her to buy a swimsuit before we left for Hua Hin, lol.). I feel like I don't want to probe her too much as she might not want me to see her that way (if she's really freelancing), yet if she's really freelancing, I can understand as well. Her background isn't exactly squeaky clean and she's had stints in Korea and Bangkok as a WL.

Am I overthinking this.. is it just because she simply likes being with me and therefore doesn't ask me for anything else... yet? She doesn't see me as a BF (and I know she knows that I don't see her as a GF - because she tells me sometimes that she feels fat as she eats too much when I'm with her, and she needs to slim down as she doesn't have a BF yet - and I didn't counter at all). Though we behave totally like couples outside, lots of hugging, affection etc. I'm not complaining about anything at all but the whole relationship feels a little weird to me.

Sorry for the wall of text.. I didn't have anyone else I could share this with, and wanted to see if anyone had a similar experience to share, or comments and questions are welcome too.

Re: Thai "holiday gf"? Anyone had something like this before?
 

Thanks for the story. it was a good read.

About the rawing= the first time is always the best! and CIP. most of the WLs/ FLs are on the Birth control pill anyway, and the morning after also helps. they more afraid of STD / HIV. spkoe with some of the FLs i rawed, they have the experience to know who can raw and who can.

for your girl, 2 things:

1) She is playing the long game with you and she's not desperate: she has the funds already to sustain herself but of course if u can care for her it would be good. she sounds more lao jiao and definitely could be very familiar with this game. She's waiting for the right time, could be " baby i am pregnant na, its your baby na" to lock yo down.


2) She is like you, enjoying your company without the " complications" of marriage. you said her husband died, so probably marriage is something she will never look into, but she wants that " feeling" .

Either way, you get free raw pussy which is good, just make sure your heart doesnt get carried away. all the best bro!

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As long as you protect your heart and your dick, just go with it. dont think so much.

singapore is a stressful place and to be able to find such sexual and emotional joy is not so easy.

live in the moment

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Honestly I would say just enjoy it. Have had holiday girlfriend arrangements with Thai girls 3 times before, all from Dome 1. Added their LINE while they were working in Singapore, and set up the arrangement when I was planning my trips. All the same arrangement and MO honestly. 6-7 days holidaying in various parts of Thailand, raw CIP always and a person to enjoy my holiday with with no attachments at the end of it. Of course I pay them for their time, but its not a bad arrangement as long as you are clear on the boundaries that they are just temporary travel companions.

Frankly speaking it is not bad if you are single. Good times for all. Just be a gentleman and be respectful, and have a ball of a time.

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Thank you sir. It was very conflicting for me to think of her as a very nice girl (and she behaves as such) but yet with such a coloured past and it makes me shudder (maybe even sad?) that she's probably still freelancing. I really struggle to think of her that way.
Yet I just can't see her getting livable income otherwise unless she had saved up a lot from her Korea days, but I doubt so. She doesn't spend on shopping though and is probably quite low maintenance. Her brother also works in the city (but as a lower end store worker) so I guess at least she doesn't have to support her bro that much.


Yeah, previously I didn't really feel any urge to go back to BKK that soon after I've left, but this time I felt a bit of it, which is dangerous as I still have a life outside of BKK - when I'm in BKK, my life basically freezes. Need to distract myself a bit.

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I think, just set some " boundaries" for yourself. write it down and STICK to it.

when you feel yourself getting carried away, read it. make a video of yourself telling yourself, if you feel like you are getting gongtaoed, leave. if she ask for cow sick money, leave.

then go and enjoy life in thailand if you have no commitments here ( family/ parents) I wish you all the best bro!

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I had a similar experience with a thai lady from a F joint in BKK near the hotel where I am always checked into during business trips. It was great while it lasted, but yes, it is confusing as hell so I can relate to how you are feeling. Ultimately I deleted her LINE contact because she was always engaging me in conversations all day, I was married then and I didn't want this to develop into anything serious.

Your girl probably has a very pragmatic and also very fluid view on your "relationship status" with her. She clearly enjoys being with you, enjoys the raw sex and she probably regards time spent with you to be emotionally satisfying, though probably not monetarily rewarding part of her life. I am guessing that she lives a rather disciplined lifestyle, doesn't blow her money unnecessarily on silly goods like the latest iPhone and expensive designer bags - most of her money probably goes to her parents who are, I guess, taking care of her child. This is a positive thing, being a single mum but still responsible for her child is the mark of a decent human being.

She also probably thinks someone with her background (single mum, ex-WL, farmgirl from Isaan) has an ice-cube chance in hell ending up with a "high value" single man so she is quite open to whatever "good things" chooses to come her way.

Just wondering if your girl has ever been curious about your background, did she ever ask or probe whether you are married and whether you have kids. If she has never broached the subject, volunteer something about your family situation and see her response. If her conversations turn serious, then you know what is on her mind. If she always keeps the conversations light, this in itself is already the answer.

You need to be realistic too - if you are yourself married with kids, then there is no realistic chance of a happy ending. Even if you are single, being a step-parent is probably one of the hardest, most thankless thing that you can ever try to do. With single mums, your ability to bond with the kid is like facing the final boss, but this stage seems to be still far away so just take things one step at a time.

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wow, that's a very good reply and touched many good points.To TS, I guess sooner or later, you'll see the more complicated side of this r/s and like bro penguin said, you need to be realistic too.

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From personal experience, enjoy this ambiguous r/s while it last.
Doesn't hurt to give her a token sum for her accompaniment sometimes. For now, she doesn't mind your presence in her life. Maybe she sees you as a "gik" too. But if she ever find a BF and wants to settle down, she will confirm cut it off with you.
Last time I also got 1, can raw, can travel together, even ate with her family a few times too. Then one day she tell me she is seeing this guy, serious r/s. Then subsequently she just MIA. Line her no reply. IG no updates. Became like a ghost.

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Wow, I really appreciate your reply bro. How long did your "relationship" last?

In my case, she really hardly texts me at all. Actually, we don't have much conversation topics at all, she speaks nearly 0 English and obviously me 0 Thai. How about your girl last time, did she speak some English?
It seems that we just enjoy each other's company and we are very affectionate towards each other both outside and in the bedroom, and we do activities together like walking around etc although she actually hates walking haha. She always surprises me with her hidden talents.. like when I brought her bowling and she freaking beat me in the 1st and only game even though it's her first time bowling (she can't be faking this haha, her grip and posture all wrong). And then at the resort I taught her table tennis and she was able to return shots quite consistently within 5 minutes. But I digress.

I agree with you, she probably does have a very pragmatic view of the relationship. She clearly doesn't see me as a BF (or she's waiting for me to say that I would like her to be my GF...), and when she finds someone eventually (quite sure it'd be a Thai person or at least Thai-speaking person), she'll likely cut me off. I guess I have to be prepared for that.

She did ask me about my background, and yeah I told her I'm single and free. But I'm actually married with a child, though I really live like a single person for the most part (leading a double life, yes).
I know I'm morally ambiguous/bad and that's probably why I am not going to blame her if she is also not going to be truthful about what she's doing.

Actually, on the last trip, after this girl went back home on Friday, I happened to get a proper no-nonsense massage at a proper place (those places with lots of tourists and real google reviews) - I was totally not expecting this kind of encounter because I've gotten so many massages at proper places before, and never ever got prepositioned before to meet after the session (but golden Q/HJ/boom-boom at the place itself, obviously very common la as you know).
But somehow this masseuse (quite cute actually) seemed really interested in me (kept giggling etc), asked where I was going/staying, and asked if she could stay with me for the night (not so directly but asked in a roundabout way). We exchanged contacts and she really showed up at my hotel. This is a full story for another day, but in summary, after some quick conversation we started making out heavily in the room, I got a little too heated and wanted to F her but she stopped me - she said she didn't mind giving me a HJ but she didn't want to F on the 1st time as it should not be the way. Not sure why but I rejected her HJ as I originally wanted to go all the way, and her actions gave me the idea that she wanted a good time herself (who the heck would suggest going to your hotel room otherwise? And she wasn't asking for money either).
But anyway after we both calmed down, she said she was really sorry and had to go home as she still had to work the next day, but she promised to stay over the next time if I told her in advance and she would then pack her bag with sleeping clothes etc. I thought that would be the end of it because maybe I was a little too aggressive, but turns out she continued to text me and we're still texting quite a bit now (more than the 1st girl actually). She seems like a fun genuine girl but honestly, all these girls are confusing the hell out of me and I really have no idea if they are playing these games with 5 other guys to see who bites, or if they actually really like me.

Life is so complicated... I feel like maybe I'm not getting enough excitement in my life, that's why I'm letting these things happen to me. :rolleyes:

BTW if anyone is interested in their photos, I'm happy to share here too. Both really look like very decent proper girls. Not super stunning but a bit of the GND look.

Re: Thai "holiday gf"? Anyone had something like this before?
 

Mine lasted a few months - it came to a point where I was always looking for a reason to go to BKK. I even switched my business flights to indirect, and chose Thai Airways as a preferred airline so that I can break the journey home with a free stopover on BKK and come back with my balls completely dry. At that stage of my career, I always had a gazillion hotel points from business travel, so the bangkok stopover only made a small dent in my hotel point balance. However, in the end, reality bites - the sex became somewhat routine and I honestly got a bit bored of her.

She spoke fairly good english, and liked to chat with me all day and to me, that was the dangerous part. She was really interested in a relationship. The sexual chemistry between us was electric, once we were out from the F shop and back at the hotel I just couldn't get enough of fucking her juicy pussy and she just loved the feeling of having my cum filling her up. We fucked everywhere - in the shower, on the hotel suite dining table, on the sofa until her juices soaked and stained the seat cushions, and her favourite was fucking doggy over the full-length hotel window overlooking the bangkok skyline. Great memories.

I can understand your natural "suspicion" that your girl will have multiple guys in play at all times. This is probably the easiest emotional state to be in, it helps you cope with the inconvenient truth that she works in a F shop and she will get fucked by some other guy, at some point. As they say, ignorance is bliss. In my view the truth is often much more mundane. Women are generally not wired to play the field, some more if the sex is always raw. I have this theory that sex raw messes up the girls' feelings much more than the guys' so most girls maintain fucking raw with multiple guys (unless you're a porn star)

With regards to your new ML adventure, just have fun while it lasts - you said it yourself, that you are married with a kid so neither one of your adventures can ever have a happy ending. Try to also understand life from the girl's point of view - for someone working in a massage shop or a F joint, there aren't a long line of high value Thai men who will pick them as a long term life partner - what more if they are already single mum so they aren't exactly marriage material either and they know it.

And don't think too much about how the girls are feeling - Thais tend to live in the moment, not think too hard about the future and they are super focused in going through life lurching from one crisis to the next. Just enjoy the journey while it lasts, and try not to be too sad when it ends.

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Oh man. I got so bored after my recent business trip that I just texted the 1st girl to go to Phuket next weekend (~5 days), and she just said yes straightaway (this is after we haven't had a single text in a week...)
She's no longer working in a F shop and I guess I believe that, since she can't possibly drop her business just to go somewhere else right? I'm not sure how it works, but usually those girls have to pay the shop if they want to take extra leave?
Also I'm not sure if I read your post right, but your girl was still working in a F shop while you guys were together that few months? If so, I feel that's quite "clear cut", cos in my case I really have no idea what my girl is doing for work (last she just said she was trying out some online clothing business, maybe TikTok), and sometimes I feel like I don't really want to know. But it's nice that she speaks fairly good English. Mine is 0 English lol.

It does feel like I'm slipping dangerously into this so yes, I think I need to be a bit careful.
Again I appreciate your perspectives and wisdom, looks like you've been there seen/done that and whatever you're saying makes a lot of sense.

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Not sure why you are so intensely interested in her job, when she hasn't shown much of an interest in yours.

You hope that she is exclusive with you, when clearly you are not exclusive with her? You know what I'm driving at, and I understand your desire to "possess" this girl

But life from her viewpoint may not be half as complicated as the way you think it. Something along the lines ofm, there is this nice guy in my life, feels good to make love to, knows I am a single mum and seems to enjoy spending time with me despite the language barrier. See how. Something as simple as that.

So, why overcomplicate your life? As I've said before, bro - enjoy it while it lasts.

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No yeah you're right bro. It could just be as simple as that. I'm likely overthinking it. I also haven't been truthful with her so I shouldn't expect her to be truthful with me as well.
Do you still have any such things going on, or you've stepped out from the scene?

I'll enjoy it while it lasts, going to Phuket with her this weekend!

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Enjoy your trip bro! get a nice villa, fuck by the pool ! Just enjoy!