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Sawadee Krup

Know one Thai coyote use to work in SG last year. During her tour of duty did help her quite alot, like send her to hospital during she sick etc etc. January this year as per promise visit her in Bkk. My trip was a memorable one. After the trip we decided to become couple. Call her up to 5 time a day, send her money as I don't wish her to work as a coyote or penthouse model anymore. Sometime did argue in phone even we didn't see each other as her jealousy level is very high, which make me have more trust in her.

Songkran was my 2nd trip visiting her. As usual before I bid her goodbye at the departure gate we will go to coffee bean to sit down to chat regarding past few days we spend together. Suddenly she pop up this question, she have to work as she don't wish to spend anymore of my money, and to be honest she also to me that the money I send her is not enough (23000 per month) She might be going back to work in SG as her agent keep pestering her to come here to work. I told her actually I trust u working as a coyote in SG but don't wish u to get trouble with the authority. If she get caught she can't enter SG again I told her.

She insisted that the agent will protect her. At that point of time also she know my age, actually I'm younger that her 3 years olds. She ask why I lie to her, I told her that I thai lady don't like to have boyfriend younger than them, thus make me lie to her. She told me that in this case she need to consider back our relationship.

As time is running out I left to catch up my flight. She also hugged me and tell me I wish to see u again in 3 month time. When in SG managed to win her heart back telling her I love truthfully, other then that everything I don't really care.

Again managed to convinced her not to work, telling her that I will try to send more money. This time is 27000.


But during this few days her attitude towards me change. Monday I send her money, but she told me she never received, thus never pick my call for 2 days telling me that im a liar. That night call her many many time, I think i accidentally pick up I heard very noise which make me think that she at outside.Two days later called her and tell her that will send her money again, from there we back to normal. Friday called her, I surprise to heard a man voice pick her phone up. But all I heard is 'BA' line in is 7 second only then when off. Called her again a few time she pick up and tell me I crazy, she now at temple praying. Yesterday she told me that she just have tatoo up her back. Now no money, need me to send again.

So bro here do you think she cheating on me?? Did ask her last Wed, was she serious or just playing. She told me if she playing she won't say 'I love You' to me, she will say 'I miss you'. Alot of customer did say 'I love you' to her but she told me her reply was 'I miss you'.

I really at lost now need so view of bro's here.

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Woah............... a very serious case of kena KC here!

In the first place, you shouldn't even have offered her cash to keep her from working!

Anyway, alot of campers will be coming in here soon! :D

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Bro, give me half of what u gives her, i will get a girl with very sweet voice and tell you I LOVE U 100 times.

Wake up from your idea, she is draining your bank, even if you are really rich, thats not the way to spend, i rather u go find FLs and bonk happily instead of torturing yourself running your though wild thinking of stupid things.

IF you are really rich and dun have place to spend, i believe there are alot of bros here that are willing to show you the "101 GODLY WAYS OF BEING HAPPY".

P.S. 99.99% she is cheating on u~

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99.999% she is cheating on u

23000 per mth!! u mean SGD??

If you can easily earn back this money, then take it as a lesson learn.

If this money is from the 1st prize Totto, 4D or Big Sweep, also take it as a lesson learn.

If this money is from your rich parents or family members, still can take it as a lesson.

If is your hard earned money thru many years.. then you should really sit back and think about the whole scenario. Imagine a friend is telling you the same thing. I bet you will tell him to wake up cos the gal is just conning his $$$..

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Bro Ts,


Just a few small comparisons ok? A Thai graduate working in an office can expect to earn about 15k baht a mth. With that, even rental of a reasonable apartment in a reasonable place will be about 5k baht and food for locals are not all that expensive. Unless you eat at restaurants and so on, a roadside stall will only cost you a few hundred baht a meal.

So if you woman says that 27k baht is not enough, either she is living the life of a princess of she is supporting someone (which will not be surprising).

My recommendation will be to cut loss and get out before you go any further.

Good luck.

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sad to say tis bro, pls "try yr best" to detach any emotional comfort with her asap...although U will not accept our suggestions as for "now"...

$23K baht closed to $1k SGD, now $27K...tis $1K is so important to be your mthly savings...instead now used to maintain her, & I muz say is high-maintenance kinda...

juz "let her go"...

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If rent 5k per month u still need to pay for the utilities bill as well or all included in? Beside then send her money every month when ever I visit her in Bkk I did buy for her gold, HP, branded clothes etc etc.... Ya she supporting her sister which don't work at all. How much it cost does one to see a doctor at bkk?
At 1st she agree to let me meet her mother, but after the state of emergency happen in 12april she told me that the place is not safe to go.

At Hi5 when ever I send her 'I love you' comment 2 days later she will delete it at the pretend that she don't own a computer how can she deleted it.

I'm seriously need help from brother here.

At point I just feel giving up, but those memory were really sweet that hard make me to give up. I think I kena KC deep deep liao.

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Bro Diamond,

Knowing when to let go is just the beginning. Really letting go is the most difficult thing to do. She's draining you both mentally and financially. In financial terms, I believe you are able to afford it. The mental torture is one of the most severe challenges in your life.

Break off all communications with her at once. I know it is difficult, but you have to find your own way to keep yourself occupied.

Like Bro DYBJ said, learned to love yourself, and not to give up yourself for the sake of her. Is she really worth it?

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Bro, if u have time, find the group of "buddies" here that chiong ktv regularly, i bet they can teach u a trick or 2 :D

Once u session liao, u will start to KC the girls instead ^^

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bro whenever u enter into a love relationship with a girl always rem this: what can she gives u? in this case frm what u have shared i see what she can gives u are only financial burdens and feeling of insecurity. ( god knws what she's been doing behind yr back in LOS ) as 4 what u can give her think we all can see is this: $$$$$. if u intend to go long term relationship with her r u sure u r able to carry her financial burdens, what worse, her whole family's financial burdens 4 her?

2ndly, alot of these girls r actually quite naive and wildful. on one hand they can open mouth ask for $$$ frm their KC lovers, on the other hand they could be spending them on shopping spree, partying, drinks and bad boy lovers. if u want to 'help' must make sure u r helping those that deserve the help if nt u will only be the one at the losing end. Yes, LOS girls are very loving, passionate and wild when bonk but also rem u might nt be the only one enjoying these treatments and sharing the sweet memories. i believe this is also what u actually feared which is y u r at a dilemma nw whether to carry on with her or nt. think rationally bro, and try to think long term: if u were to marry her, what can she gives u? is she a wife material? will she be an asset or a burden to u?

think abt it bro.

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Reading your post reminds me of the day I fell for a thai FL some 10 years ago. Sweet memories for me too! Now 10 years later, she still writes to me and calls me every 3 to 4 months asking me to help her younger sister apply visa, help her pay her bank loan, buy her a property in Bkk etc etc... blah blah blah... 10 years!! Thaz how persistent and determined these WLs can be! :eek: I think I can start a new thread call "Letters from a WL" liao... haha.

So bro, u are right to say that you have been KC-ed big time. And what you're going thru is just the beginning... I can assure u more nightmares to follow. But the very fact that you've admitted it is a good sign. You have to be brutally honest with yourself on this: Are the sweet memories of an illusionary love worth all the burdens u are going to bear?? These girls are well-trained in the art of KC. If u would like to know more about thai WLs and how they think and operate, you should read Stephen Leather's "Private Dancer".

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er, braddah you got scammed. you say you wire 27 to her and she not rec'd so you wire 27 more? that makes 54. and you still dont know the truth. she play with you braddah. i bet she have that bf and they are laughing at you from high class apt they rent with your money and the money of many others. braddah, best to quit now when you still have the power to come here to ask for advice. you have been KC they working you braddah. please for your own sanity quite now. call her and tell her to f off. do it for us and yourself and your family.

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Right now I not too sure should I carry on with relationship...
Ya I read the story by Stephen Leather's "Private Dancer" before.
Back in Bkk I did test her like try to ask her go to Siam and bring her to Club21. Upon seeing the price of the clothes she told me very expensive. She don't need one. Those street one will do.

But now after she know my age, I feel she totally change. Last time can miss call me up to 10 time if i never return her call. Now call me also seldom, Im the one who need to do the calling.Today it has been 2 days leaw I try to reach her but keep rejecting my phone call. She only call me when those important thing happened.

I really love her very much, at point I did tell myself those are just negative side of mine think. Totally can't bear to give up the relationship and so much effort I have put in. Up to now I support her going for 6 month. I not too sure what really she want from me. She also told me that she hate Thai man, I heard alot of bro's here mention that all coyote did say the same thing.

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So it's been a 10 year long HARVEST for her? :D

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Bro TS:

All the signs are telling you that you are in a royally big KC, she even acts like what you give her is not enough when it is more than most other people get. You mentioned that rent have to pay utilities and so on... but others can do it for so much less.

Why many men get caught is because they confuse love with the feeling of being loved. And also they just do not want to cut and let go. Isn't it like if you bought some shares and after a little profit, the shares tumble? You had the high, you remember it, and now that it is in the low, you are just unwilling to let go?

Bro, I ask you this, 6 months of money and effort.... is it worth it to carry on and let the lady laugh all the way to the bank? Do you own homework lah, go to Bkk and not test her, go and ask others how much they are earning and yet they can support their own families. Don keep giving yourself reason to give to her. You must walk away because she is just as ready to walk away from you and tell you thank you for a good meal.

Even a KTV gal will tell you how silly and easy to trap men of Singapore are.. tickle them a bit and they will give you their whole. Go to a KTV club called Claudia in Rachada, tell them you are from Singapore and get the Sawadee Kruup treatment.