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Old 07-08-2026, 12:06 PM
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Re: What is the endgame?

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Anytime bro!

hope bros in similar situations, when dealing with FLs/ WLs, there will always be " the next girl"

hung up over a FL? find a newer fresher FL to get over the FL! might save you some money and headache. when that FL starts the same games, find a newer one!

from my experience! its like treating a hangover by drinking more.
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Old 07-08-2026, 05:57 PM
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Re: What is the endgame?

I think you got the gist of it. Visit more than 1 lady. This helps me at least not to get con by these whores.


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Anytime bro!

hope bros in similar situations, when dealing with FLs/ WLs, there will always be " the next girl"

hung up over a FL? find a newer fresher FL to get over the FL! might save you some money and headache. when that FL starts the same games, find a newer one!

from my experience! its like treating a hangover by drinking more.
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Re: What is the endgame?

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I think you got the gist of it. Visit more than 1 lady. This helps me at least not to get con by these whores.
Yes bro!

everyone has to kenna gongtao at least once by these whores, just like chickenpox. people kenna once, then they immune liao.

its something u gotta go through to know the hurt and feeling. and just hope the first time isnt too expensive!

girls, many out there! your cock and attention, only got 1!
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Old 11-08-2026, 05:44 PM
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Re: What is the endgame?

Girls many out there. Nothing but the truth.


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Yes bro!

everyone has to kenna gongtao at least once by these whores, just like chickenpox. people kenna once, then they immune liao.

its something u gotta go through to know the hurt and feeling. and just hope the first time isnt too expensive!

girls, many out there! your cock and attention, only got 1!
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Old 16-08-2026, 10:04 AM
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Re: What is the endgame?

TS bro
It’s normal to feel giddy since you don’t chiong much
But remember, it’s just a transaction

She may want temporary companionship, good sex, kind words, just knowing she’s having sex with someone who’s not a client, really like you…etc
Most importantly, you don’t invest KC and think she’s The One
Very clearly, you are not
When time’s up, she will disappear from your life

Even if you do get together, always keep in mind people used to “easier” money will find it very hard to go back to a normal, “honest” living

MLs have introduced me to their family, even bringing their kids to see me, paid for my food, offer to introduce jobs cos her customer is a boss, invite me to her wedding, etc

But we must be clear - we are customers, not husbands
It ends when they go home
Even if they want to stay in touch, one of the things they will almost confirm tell you is “don’t call me by (the name they use here)”
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Old 17-08-2026, 05:59 PM
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TS bro
It’s normal to feel giddy since you don’t chiong much
But remember, it’s just a transaction

She may want temporary companionship, good sex, kind words, just knowing she’s having sex with someone who’s not a client, really like you…etc
Most importantly, you don’t invest KC and think she’s The One
Very clearly, you are not
When time’s up, she will disappear from your life

Even if you do get together, always keep in mind people used to “easier” money will find it very hard to go back to a normal, “honest” living

MLs have introduced me to their family, even bringing their kids to see me, paid for my food, offer to introduce jobs cos her customer is a boss, invite me to her wedding, etc

But we must be clear - we are customers, not husbands
It ends when they go home
Even if they want to stay in touch, one of the things they will almost confirm tell you is “don’t call me by (the name they use here)”
Thank you for your wise words... Yes I'm learning by the week. :P If anyone wants an update, she actually texted me to say, "Sorry we are done... Our relationship is impossible. Even though we met it was not in a good place." (Her exact words.)

I appreciated her honesty even though it came like 2 weeks later. In the meantime I got to know an even lovelier and younger FL who gave me even more perks, without the "baby" or "I love you" crap On her last day here we spent the whole day together and she even showed me that she turned down two customers who wanted to take her to dinner. (One of them was quite salty about being rejected.) Instead she treated me to mookata... What an honour!

Very wild girl... Gave me a huge hickey without warning the next morning, but kindly gave me her makeup to mask it since I had to go straight to work. By then I had truly gotten over the first girl, who was really not that fantastic in hindsight. And this time I was more mentally prepared - it ends when they go home, like you said. Much fonder memories in any case, none of that giddiness or second-guessing. Haiz, I should still take a break though...
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Old 17-08-2026, 06:31 PM
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Thank you for your wise words... Yes I'm learning by the week. :P If anyone wants an update, she actually texted me to say, "Sorry we are done... Our relationship is impossible. Even though we met it was not in a good place." (Her exact words.)

I appreciated her honesty even though it came like 2 weeks later. In the meantime I got to know an even lovelier and younger FL who gave me even more perks, without the "baby" or "I love you" crap On her last day here we spent the whole day together and she even showed me that she turned down two customers who wanted to take her to dinner. (One of them was quite salty about being rejected.) Instead she treated me to mookata... What an honour!

Very wild girl... Gave me a huge hickey without warning the next morning, but kindly gave me her makeup to mask it since I had to go straight to work. By then I had truly gotten over the first girl, who was really not that fantastic in hindsight. And this time I was more mentally prepared - it ends when they go home, like you said. Much fonder memories in any case, none of that giddiness or second-guessing. Haiz, I should still take a break though...
If you’re stressed while chionging, you’re doing something wrong
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Old 23-08-2026, 10:46 AM
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Re: What is the endgame?

to TS,

FLs are meant to take the stress away and not give u stress.

i know how it feels, many years ago, after a FL finished her " work" here, paid for a hotel for her to stay here, brought her out.

then she toldme she had a " good friend" client who wanted to see her one last time and insisted. so because i was young and stupid, allowed the guy to go to the hotel which i paid for to fuck her and then leave.

i cringe at the thought of it now being that " in love" and willing to sit outside a hotel while the girl " i love" gets fuck by another guy.

U gotta fight fire with fire, find another FL to have fun with and just be happy!
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Old 23-08-2026, 11:24 PM
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to TS,

FLs are meant to take the stress away and not give u stress.

i know how it feels, many years ago, after a FL finished her " work" here, paid for a hotel for her to stay here, brought her out.

then she toldme she had a " good friend" client who wanted to see her one last time and insisted. so because i was young and stupid, allowed the guy to go to the hotel which i paid for to fuck her and then leave.

i cringe at the thought of it now being that " in love" and willing to sit outside a hotel while the girl " i love" gets fuck by another guy.

U gotta fight fire with fire, find another FL to have fun with and just be happy!

Not quite the same details as me, but after we had mookata (see my update above) I went back to her hotel room (which she paid for, thankfully). It was around 7pm. Then she sheepishly told me, "I have a customer who wants to see me from 10-11, is that OK? He is going to pay me $200." I felt a strange mix of emotions, but what right did I have to be angry? Still, I was a bit annoyed and confused. I asked her why she didn't tell me earlier and she said she didn't want me to be mad at her in public. In the moment I even stupidly suggested, "Can I pay you $200 and then you tell the guy to bugger off?" (Up till that point it was a 'free' date for me.) Thankfully she didn't take me up on that offer.

Then we took a taxi to go see the Merlion. I still didn't know what to say, so I just said maybe I should go straight home after this and you can take your time with the VIP. She actually looked hurt and said, I want you to come back.... I asked her why. She didn't answer. Then after we did our sightseeing she asked me again if I would come back, with those big doe-like eyes. I just grunted maybe.

Walked her back to her hotel room at around 9.30 and then she grabbed me and asked me to "do me now before he comes". That melted any feelings of resentment I had towards her.... Just before 10pm I went back home and thought hard about whether I should go back to her. Spoiler: I did. The next morning she gave me a giant hickey. And told me I really reminded her of her actual BF in HK. Cringey indeed! I must thank her for helping me get over the first girl. But now I need to get over HER 🤣
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Old 24-08-2026, 11:44 AM
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Re: What is the endgame?

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Not quite the same details as me, but after we had mookata (see my update above) I went back to her hotel room (which she paid for, thankfully). It was around 7pm. Then she sheepishly told me, "I have a customer who wants to see me from 10-11, is that OK? He is going to pay me $200." I felt a strange mix of emotions, but what right did I have to be angry? Still, I was a bit annoyed and confused. I asked her why she didn't tell me earlier and she said she didn't want me to be mad at her in public. In the moment I even stupidly suggested, "Can I pay you $200 and then you tell the guy to bugger off?" (Up till that point it was a 'free' date for me.) Thankfully she didn't take me up on that offer.

Then we took a taxi to go see the Merlion. I still didn't know what to say, so I just said maybe I should go straight home after this and you can take your time with the VIP. She actually looked hurt and said, I want you to come back.... I asked her why. She didn't answer. Then after we did our sightseeing she asked me again if I would come back, with those big doe-like eyes. I just grunted maybe.

Walked her back to her hotel room at around 9.30 and then she grabbed me and asked me to "do me now before he comes". That melted any feelings of resentment I had towards her.... Just before 10pm I went back home and thought hard about whether I should go back to her. Spoiler: I did. The next morning she gave me a giant hickey. And told me I really reminded her of her actual BF in HK. Cringey indeed! I must thank her for helping me get over the first girl. But now I need to get over HER 🤣
i understand the feeling bro.. these kind of things take time and experience.

once in awhile i find myself in similar situations and get angry.

solution? work harder, earn more money and fuck more girls to get over these kind of emotional roller coaster!
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Old 24-08-2026, 05:41 PM
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Re: What is the endgame?

All you need to remember is that it’s just your turn now with these working ladies. Happened to be at the right time & place. Think of yourself as being a palate cleanser after her having a nasty stinking toufu dish full of garlic sauce. In 20 years time when you put on another 20kg , look haggard there will be another younger guy in that position.

Enjoy it while you can. The longer you are in this the less attractive normal girls will appear to you.
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All you need to remember is that it’s just your turn now with these working ladies. Happened to be at the right time & place. Think of yourself as being a palate cleanser after her having a nasty stinking toufu dish full of garlic sauce. In 20 years time when you put on another 20kg , look haggard there will be another younger guy in that position.

Enjoy it while you can. The longer you are in this the less attractive normal girls will appear to you.
Boy oh boy, I wish I were making it up, but this morning she suddenly texted me to say that she just broke up with her BF (or "BF"). Why? Coz he was seeing other WLs behind her back. She didn't say any more. Stinking tofu... * sad face *

p.s. I've *already* put on 20kg in the last x years and looking haggard. Shudder to think how I'll be in 20 years. Any and all weight loss tips would be highly welcome.
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Boy oh boy, I wish I were making it up, but this morning she suddenly texted me to say that she just broke up with her BF (or "BF"). Why? Coz he was seeing other WLs behind her back. She didn't say any more. Stinking tofu... * sad face *

p.s. I've *already* put on 20kg in the last x years and looking haggard. Shudder to think how I'll be in 20 years. Any and all weight loss tips would be highly welcome.
Eat less carbs
After 8pm don’t eat
Can lose weight quite fast
MLs will come back if they need more money or after breaking up
We don’t need to catch the dish
Got a ML tell me she’s getting married, and also told me if she don’t like married life she will come back
Transaction is transaction
Maybe we are just boy toys, don’t think too much
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Re: What is the endgame?

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Boy oh boy, I wish I were making it up, but this morning she suddenly texted me to say that she just broke up with her BF (or "BF"). Why? Coz he was seeing other WLs behind her back. She didn't say any more. Stinking tofu... * sad face *

p.s. I've *already* put on 20kg in the last x years and looking haggard. Shudder to think how I'll be in 20 years. Any and all weight loss tips would be highly welcome.
hi bro,

learn to manage stress level ( home/ work etc). sleep more, drink more water.

Supper is a killer , try to stop eating after like 8pm.

sweet drinks ( full coke etc) is a main killer. if need be, go with the coke zero options etc.

as for exercise, go for something that sweats and is fast, can be fast walking . how u know the exercise is working? after you exercise and you shit, if your shit smells dam jiatlat, means its working. wishing you all the best!
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Boy oh boy, I wish I were making it up, but this morning she suddenly texted me to say that she just broke up with her BF (or "BF"). Why? Coz he was seeing other WLs behind her back. She didn't say any more. Stinking tofu... * sad face *

p.s. I've *already* put on 20kg in the last x years and looking haggard. Shudder to think how I'll be in 20 years. Any and all weight loss tips would be highly welcome.
Cut out sugar and carbs. Take 1-2hours walk a few times a week
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