True Love or Give Up???

[DO_YOU_BJ]

为自己而生
为自己而死

[slider_72]

Not trying to stir this up, but even though sammyboyfor's post is crude, but the cold hard reality bites, and it really hurt.

If I have a son who wants to marry a whore, how would I feel? Should I be happy for him that he has found his true love? Or should I feel uncomfortable and wants to stop the marriage? What would you have done? Are you able to withstand all the gossips and stares? Are you going to give them blessings?
I dunno the answer to the above man... really... it is sad.... :(

This is not a fair example because they are different issues bro.

If you have a son who wants to marry a whore, you will object knowing that your son will face a lot of difficulties in future, and knowing that the risk of their marriage falling apart is greater due to the problems inherent in such unions. Also, as a father, you will always think that you know the world much better than your son and you will want to shield your son from what you believe will be a tough time ahead.

The father may not give the son his blessings because at that point in time, the son still has the choice whether or not to proceed with the marriage. If this situation happens to me in future, and if my son chooses to proceed notwithstanding my violent objections, then as a father, I think even though I may not give him my blessings, I will try my level best to make life better for him after their marriage (maybe give him some money to start life somewhere else abroad or try to think of some other solutions).

What the boss asked was who wants to be the child of a whore. This is a totally different scenario.

As a child, you have no choice over who your parents are and what they did in the past. If your parents are a loving couple after marriage, provide you with all the love and care in the world, why should you bother too much what was your mum profession in the past? Surely a mother's love far surpasses anything else in this world.

Contrast these two scenarios; (1) a family where both parents are highly paid professionals (eg brain surgeons) but have no time to spend with their children, where their children are probably more conversant in Tagalog or Bahasa Indonesia instead of Chinese, have plenty of money to spend but gets to see the parents for less than 8 hours a week, and (2) a family where they are just getting by, no luxury items but the children gets to spend quality time with their parents, and where the children gets all the love and care from their parents.

I think a child would probably grow up far more balanced with his head and heart in the right place in scenario (2) even though his mother may have been a whore in the past.

Of course the two scenarios are two ends of the spectrum and I am not saying that whores will make good mothers. End of the day, whether a woman was a whore in the past has no bearings on whether she will be a good wife to her husband and a good mother to her children.

The question should not be who wants to be the son of a whore, but rather who wants to be the son of a loving mother. I am sure most people will put their hands up to this question. The follow up question would be if you have a loving mother, do you mind that she used to be a whore? I don't know about the rest but I wouldn't and couldn't.

Why couldn't, some may ask. If you look at all the sacrifices that your mother made and all the love and care that your mother poured on you, can you in good conscience reject your mother's love simply because of what she did before you were born? Can you bear to break her heart?

Now I put the following hypothetical question back to the boss. If you have a loving mother who endured much pain and hardship bringing you into this world and who made so many sacrifices in order to bring you up, would you reject her if she used to be a whore before you were born?

[cablesnwires]

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I'll fix her when she comes in, not my son who cant be fixed...Y...cos then, i'll still be in control.....
I change the environment for me.......i never change for the environment.........my motto la FYI hehehe

Bro DYBJ, precisely my point, I am not sure if I can really accept her as a daughter-in-law, and even if I can, I'm not sure for how long and there will always be a barrier between the 2 of us. Or even if I do accept her, will my wife be able to accept it as well?

[sammyboyfor]

On your own standards, maybe you're rite, but on the REALISTIC side, i dun think what you said is applicable in the REAL world.


If you think pimping ones wife for money is acceptable, go right ahead. Don't let the rest of society stop you. :rolleyes:

Why stop with your wife? Pimp the rest of your female family members too. :eek: After all, it's money before all else.

[jojogigi]

If you have a loving mother who endured much pain and hardship bringing you into this world and who made so many sacrifices in order to bring you up, would you reject her if she used to be a whore before you were born?

this is absolutely beautiful. excellent.

[sammyboyfor]

You can base how to live your life on advices but not how to live it by what others tell you to.

Should be "You can base your life on ADVICE but not how to live it....."

"Advice" is a non countable noun. You do not add an "s" to make it plural.

"Advice" is like "rice". You say... "Please pass me the rice".. not "please pass me the rices" because "rice", like "advice", is a non countable noun.

If i have a son who wants to marry a whore. I'll feel happy for him if that was his true love and they both love each other.

I hope you have the same enthusiasm about your daughter becoming a hooker. :D After all, she'll be making good money!:p

[jojogigi]

If you think pimping ones wife for money is acceptable, go right ahead. Don't let the rest of society stop you. :rolleyes:

Why stop with your wife? Pimp the rest of your female family members too. :eek: After all, it's money before all else.

money before all else is for me ... I would love to pimp my whole family but they have to agree to it right? Personal choice. moral standards differ.

But it all boils down to your 1st question. "
Hands up those of you who want your children to be the offspring of a prostitute?"

my hands are up. so questions about pimping the rest of family members is out of context. Uncle sammy.

[sammyboyfor]

Now I put the following hypothetical question back to the boss. If you have a loving mother who endured much pain and hardship bringing you into this world and who made so many sacrifices in order to bring you up, would you reject her if she used to be a whore before you were born?

It's hypothetical alright because the chances of a whore making sacrifices are very very slim. They went into whoring because they are lazy good for nothings who just want a fast buck. The chance that they could tranform themselves from lazy sluts to a caring mother capable of making sacrifices is one in a million.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

If you think pimping ones wife for money is acceptable, go right ahead. Don't let the rest of society stop you. :rolleyes:

Why stop with your wife? Pimp the rest of your female family members too. :eek: After all, it's money before all else.

Hands up those of you who want your children to be the offspring of a prostitute?

This is what you posted and now you totally go offtrack and whack something totally out of your own point.
This is not about advise or advice.......so maybe go read what you wrote before you start getting to SEXCITED my dear Sam

[colins]

Eh? sammy's answer show a different stand now leh?

The question becomes, will you pimp your wife for money? Or is money your only concern in life? What happened to the original question?

[sammyboyfor]

Hands up those of you who want your children to be the offspring of a prostitute?

This is what you posted and now you totally go offtrack and whack something totally out of your own point.
This is not about advise or advice.......so maybe go read what you wrote before you start getting to SEXCITED my dear Sam

I'm not going off track at all. I'm taking the debate a step further by asking another question and that is would you also be happy to pimp your daughter, your grand daughter, your niece, your aunt etc.

After all, you are the one who made the statement that your values are "money before all else".:rolleyes:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro DYBJ, precisely my point, I am not sure if I can really accept her as a daughter-in-law, and even if I can, I'm not sure for how long and there will always be a barrier between the 2 of us. Or even if I do accept her, will my wife be able to accept it as well?

We all have our own way to decide....
Some decide on fact not biased on anything else
others decide on everything else...peer pressure but no fact
Sounds like wat u read in the papers every other day??????
So who's rite who's wrong???
That's what this topic is all about!
With that question, who judges?
Who can be the judge?

[jojogigi]

After all, you are the one who made the statement that your values are "money before all else".:rolleyes:


it was me not him. Actually its not "money above all else". Its quite a out of pt statement. I said Money dictate my life. Money dictating my life and money above all else is way 2 different thing.

[slider_72]

It's hypothetical alright because the chances of a whore making sacrifices are very very slim. They went into whoring because they are lazy good for nothings who just want a fast buck. The chance that they could tranform themselves from lazy sluts to a caring mother capable of making sacrifices is one in a million.

That is your opinion which I wholly disagree with. A mother's ability to love her child is not restricted to the domain of the non-WLs only. The bond between a mother and child is in my view the strongest bond in the world that can exist between two persons. Husbands and wives may end up divorced and hating each other. Siblings may grow up becoming strangers. Friends may come and friends may go. But everyone in this world, without exception, has only 1 mother and a mother's love for her child transcends time, culture, borders and geographical boundaries, even if she used to be a whore.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

I'm not going off track at all. I'm taking the debate a step further by asking another question and that is would you also be happy to pimp your daughter, your grand daughter, your niece, your aunt etc.

After all, you are the one who made the statement that your values are "money before all else".:rolleyes:

Finish wat u started 1st then run.....
Sorry, wont oblige chicken shit!
Yes, i am replying that based on the initial.....so finish it like a man...the ENTIRE FORUM IS WATCHING MR ADVISE OR ADVICE
Give em a good show matey

[sammyboyfor]

Eh? sammy's answer show a different stand now leh?

The question becomes, will you pimp your wife for money? Or is money your only concern in life? What happened to the original question?

The original question was "who would want to be the son of a whore?".

The reply was. "I have no problems pimping my wife as I rank money before all else".

My response is "Why stop with the wife?:rolleyes: Pimp the whole family!".

His response is "I'm going off track"??? :rolleyes:

I knew this forum was full of people with no moral standards. It seems that some have no brains either. :rolleyes: Small wonder the country is becoming nothing more than a huge whorehouse!:eek:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

It's hypothetical alright because the chances of a whore making sacrifices are very very slim. They went into whoring because they are lazy good for nothings who just want a fast buck. The chance that they could tranform themselves from lazy sluts to a caring mother capable of making sacrifices is one in a million.

Poor child, by this statement, you must have something you tried to bury REALLLL deep in ya....let it out dude, you'll feel better!

[EtherC]

Social stratification has existed since the earliest days of human existence. Frankly I don't think it can be gotten rid of. Men just aren't born equals nor do they remain equals. There are always the smart & strong , the average and the weak & foolish ones.

In communist-republican settings we see dictators who bend the laws to their own favor, becoming bloated while their people suffer from malnutrition. In democratic/captitalist settings we see power brokers trying to monopolise the various markets so that they can claim dominance and get away with bleeding money off the populace. Warmongering to secure resources that made them filthy rich and to showcase their high tech weaponry so that other political powers may spend billions to acquire the technological advantage. Men of power sit and watch as lives vanish to become a numeral in a death toll in their plans of power acquisition. This is life. It was never fair and the strongest take the cake. Even nerds like Bill Gates seek domination.

Birthright does have a very great impact on our lives. Monarchies still exist all over the world. Why? Its because there is a difference between the nobles and the peasants. And there is also a difference between peasants and slaves. Sexual slavery still exists because men like us still patronise hookers. We contribute to part to the cycle. The rich can despise the poor because they simply can. Its not a matter of right or wrong. Do we need 2 million dollar defamation suits? No, a representative $1 will signify a win as well. Is it a necessity to cripple one's enemy?We do that because we can't withstand resistance in the slightest form.

True we are no better than the hookers we use but we abuse them as sex toys because we have the money to do so. If you cheong and claim you dun abuse hookers I'm sorry you're simply lying to yourself. You paid and fucked her. The hooker did it for a living. A livelihood built around your carnal desire to bed different women and your willingness to pay to do the deed. One day if their GDP surpasses ours or if their country manages to subjugate ours it may be our fate to be sold as slaves to serve them.

The Stanford prison experiment 1971 has shown us that power corrupts. It is not a claim it is a certainty. We are animals when the facade of civility is dismantled. Understand yourselves. Lesson to take away from this stark passage:Cherish the happiness in front of you while it lasts.

Like what Heath Ledger said: Why the sad face?

[sammyboyfor]

That is your opinion which I wholly disagree with. A mother's ability to love her child is not restricted to the domain of the non-WLs only. The bond between a mother and child is in my view the strongest bond in the world that can exist between two persons. Husbands and wives may end up divorced and hating each other. Siblings may grow up becoming strangers. Friends may come and friends may go. But everyone in this world, without exception, has only 1 mother and a mother's love for her child transcends time, culture, borders and geographical boundaries, even if she used to be a whore.

Yeah right.. I'm sure this mother loves her 7 year old daughter to death.

Mother Pimps Out 7 Year Old Daughter - Video (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/511457/mother_pimps_out_7_year_old_daughter/)

[jojogigi]

The original question was "who would want to be the son of a whore?".

The reply was. "I have no problems pimping my wife as I rank money before all else".

My response is "Why stop with the wife?:rolleyes: Pimp the whole family!".

His response is "I'm going off track"??? :rolleyes:

I knew this forum was full of people with no moral standards. It seems that some have no brains either. :rolleyes: Small wonder the country is becoming nothing more than a huge whorehouse!:eek:

dude you lose out on discussion and start calling pple no brains. That shows much about you too. Uncle sammy. So in order to say us no moral standards and no brains. You must have full of them i presume.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

The original question was "who would want to be the son of a whore?".

The reply was. "I have no problems pimping my wife as I rank money before all else".

My response is "Why stop with the wife?:rolleyes: Pimp the whole family!".

His response is "I'm going off track"??? :rolleyes:

I knew this forum was full of people with no moral standards. It seems that some have no brains either. :rolleyes: Small wonder the country is becoming nothing more than a huge whorehouse!:eek:

Wow, show hand liao...now machiam the whole island offended you like that......
Dig one hole not enuff, still wanna dig more holes.....
Ok ok...pls get back to the original point.....and stop diverting
We all would like to be enlightened by the GREAT ONE!

[DO_YOU_BJ]

[QUOTE=sammyboyfor;3207420]Yeah right.. I'm sure this mother loves her 7 year old daughter to death.

1 stupid clip does not represent the whole universe dude......
When was the last time you went out to the REAL world?
1 clip like this can decide on everything, shows how open minded u r.
U r not trying the cant convince them, confuse them tactic are you?????;)

[sammyboyfor]

Poor child, by this statement, you must have something you tried to bury REALLLL deep in ya....let it out dude, you'll feel better!

There's nothing buried. I'm just sick and tired of having to pick up the pieces when people I know mess up perfectly good lives for a freakin hooker!

All this "true love" will conquer all garbage does nobody any good either. I'd believe it was true love if the hooker weighed 130kg, had bad breath, a moustache and cunt that smelt like dead fish.

The reality of the matter is that married men who have grown tired of their out of shape wives (usually from carrying their children) are simply overcome with lust for a pretty young whore chick who is out to milk them dry.

True love? Gimme a break! :rolleyes: It was "true love" when they married their wives too and look what happened.

[colins]

The original question was "who would want to be the son of a whore?".

The reply was. "I have no problems pimping my wife as I rank money before all else".

My response is "Why stop with the wife?:rolleyes: Pimp the whole family!".

His response is "I'm going off track"??? :rolleyes:

I knew this forum was full of people with no moral standards. It seems that some have no brains either. :rolleyes: Small wonder the country is becoming nothing more than a huge whorehouse!:eek:

The issue is judging people, we're not talking about what choices people make, we're talking about our rights in judging them. We're not talking about statistics on how many whores make good mothers, we're talking about when they are your mother. What moral standards are there if we dun have a father or a mother? What moral standards do we adhere to if our own mother was a whore? Yours or mine?

[jojogigi]

Uncle sam you have your own prostitute mom video....

I have mine.

YouTube - TINA: Prostitute Becomes Multi-Million Dollar Realtor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBV8CuWnVqo)

[colins]

True love? Gimme a break! :rolleyes: It was "true love" when they married their wives too and look what happened.

I'm quite sure it wasn't true love that we were talking about, mate.

[sammyboyfor]

[QUOTE=sammyboyfor;3207420]Yeah right.. I'm sure this mother loves her 7 year old daughter to death.

1 stupid clip does not represent the whole universe dude......
When was the last time you went out to the REAL world?
1 clip like this can decide on everything, shows how open minded u r.
U r not trying the cant convince them, confuse them tactic are you?????;)

There are very good mothers and there are very bad mothers. The rest fall somewhere in between. The clip shows just how bad mothers can be.

While there may be some hookers who would make good mothers, the majority would not. Hookers have a character flaw. That's why they became hookers.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

It was "true love" when they married their wives too and look what happened.

What gave you this idea?
Man, think you really need to learn what marraige is all about.
You think all of it is based on love?
Man, you really need to get out of cyber world and to the real world more often........

[sammyboyfor]

I'm quite sure it wasn't true love that we were talking about, mate.

Huh? Can't you read?

If i have a son who wants to marry a whore. I'll feel happy for him if that was his true love and they both love each other.

[colins]

There's nothing buried. I'm just sick and tired of having to pick up the pieces when people I know mess up perfectly good lives for a freakin hooker!


Sorry ever since I started reading the forum, there was only advice/advise and you-fucking-moron-for-wanting-to-marry-a-whore type of 'help'. I dun see why there is a reason on being sick and tired of having to pick up the pieces. You were raising a point, issuing a challenge to all. Pls go back to the main point.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

[QUOTE=DO_YOU_BJ;3207434]

There are very good mothers and there are very bad mothers. The rest fall somewhere in between. The clip shows just how bad mothers can be.

While there may be some hookers who would make good mothers, the majority would not. Hookers have a character flaw. That's why they became hookers.

This one i agree but not all choose to become hookers in case you dun already know.
Like wat you said, there are some who are forced against their will too.......but what gives you the right to judge all under 1 category like the clip you posted and you posted this later to close up the other cans of worms u opened accidentally?
That's what i am driving at, it's so easy to point outwards.....try pointing inwards and all the flaws will surface......get it?
People who are easy in spitting poison outwards are actually showing how poisoned they are internally.

But back to topic pls cos we're diverting again;)

[jojogigi]

There's nothing buried. I'm just sick and tired of having to pick up the pieces when people I know mess up perfectly good lives for a freakin hooker!

All this "true love" will conquer all garbage does nobody any good either. I'd believe it was true love if the hooker weighed 130kg, had bad breath, a moustache and cunt that smelt like dead fish.

The reality of the matter is that married men who have grown tired of their out of shape wives (usually from carrying their children) are simply overcome with lust for a pretty young whore chick who is out to milk them dry.

True love? Gimme a break! :rolleyes: It was "true love" when they married their wives too and look what happened.

You are of point. I just agree i don't mind having a prostitute as a wife. U posed the question. I answer. Simple.
this is getting out of point. From Offspring of prostitute, to moral standards to true love..... Uncle sammy u jump topic as fast as i choose my girlfriends. And don't pick out a small point from my answers and blew it to become the main topic.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Exactly, so got a point to make, make it! So that we can all agree and move on...rather than running around in circles avoiding what you started in the 1st place.

[jojogigi]

Exactly, so got a point to make, make it! So that we can all agree and move on...rather than running around in circles avoiding what you started in the 1st place.

so it goes back to the 1st question....

[colins]

Huh? Can't you read?

Those words were from jojogigi, your rely was to DYBJ. I'm reading your postings in reply to mine BECAUSE I answered your original challenge and till now there was nothing in reply, only sidetracking on different issues to prove things that you did not contribute meaningfully.

[sammyboyfor]

Sorry ever since I started reading the forum, there was only advice/advise and you-fucking-moron-for-wanting-to-marry-a-whore type of 'help'. I dun see why there is a reason on being sick and tired of having to pick up the pieces. You were raising a point, issuing a challenge to all. Pls go back to the main point.

All members here are free to bring up whatever points they choose. I see no reason why the host should be an exception.

I asked a very simple question.. how many would want to the offspring of a prostitute? Very few have responded with a simple "YES". One member responded with "I'd pimp my wife for money". Others have responded with motherhood statements. Yet another thinks he's some kind of psychologist:rolleyes:

Perhaps I should simply have started a poll. :rolleyes:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

All members here are free to bring up whatever points they choose. I see no reason why the host should be an exception.

I asked a very simple question.. how many would want to the offspring of a prostitute? Very few have responded with a simple "YES". One member responded with "I'd pimp my wife for money". Others have responded with motherhood statements. Yet another thinks he's some kind of psychologist:rolleyes:

Perhaps I should simply have started a poll. :rolleyes:

Freedom of expression...this i agree.......and i embrace that
We are discussing something here, from point to totally out of point....
Now felt it wud have been better to have made a poll...i reckon too
But that didnt happen.....so.............................we're back to where you began my friend

[colins]

Tell me, who is the worse lot? The people who got ridicule for their birth or the people who make their life happier by ridiculing these people? Hands up now?

Man, now I have quote myself...

Your Post:
The "bros" here should thank their lucky stars their father belongs to the first category. Otherwise, they'd officially be sons of WHORES!

Hands up those of you who want your children to be the offspring of a prostitute?

My question is there.

[jojogigi]

Perhaps I should simply have started a poll. :rolleyes:

if you wanted to have poll... you wouldn't be making this statement.


What a sorry specimen of a human being you must be!


You contradict yourself. A poll doesn't consider of your opinions of other voters.

[sammyboyfor]

Those words were from jojogigi, your rely was to DYBJ. I'm reading your postings in reply to mine BECAUSE I answered your original challenge and till now there was nothing in reply, only sidetracking on different issues to prove things that you did not contribute meaningfully.

I concede defeat!:eek: Those who want to marry prostitutes, pimp their daughters, leave their wives for hookers, transfer all their wealth to some cheap PRC whores... BE MY GUEST! It's your life, your money and your destiny.

I thought I was contributing meaningfully by setting up this section to help knock some sense into people who seem to have sperm leaking from their testicles to their brains. It seems I have failed miserably.

All I can say is I'm extremely disappointed. I set up this forum so that Singaporeans could discuss commercial sex the way they discuss computers, cellphones, hi fi etc.

I don't see anyone starting a thread in a hi fi forum proclaiming that they want to marry their amplifiers or speakers. Why the hell would anyone ever dream of marrying a sex worker? I've been to internationalsexguide.org and adultforums.co.nz and hardly ever come across these "i want to marry my favourite hooker" threads. Why do they keep popping up in every section of this forum????:eek: Is there something wrong with Sinkie men or what? Are they that deprived of love and affection that they have to find solace in the arms and between the legs of a freakin WHORE! What's happening to the country!??????

[EtherC]

Relax Sam you're doing a fine job running the forum. There's only so much you can do, you're not God.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Those who want to marry prostitutes, pimp their daughters, leave their wives for hookers, transfer all their wealth to some cheap PRC whore... BE MY GUEST! It's your life, your money and your destiny.
If you continue this stand, which i knew you wud, this wud never end.......

I thought I was contributing meaningfully by setting up this section to help knock some sense into people who seem to have sperm leaking from their testicles to their brains. It seems I have failed miserably.
No you have not my friend, actually, thru this section, several have been, being and will be saved........so good on ya mate

All I can say is I'm extremely disappointed. I set up this forum so that Singaporeans could discuss commercial sex the way they discuss computers, cellphones, hi fi etc.
Every coin has 2 sides.......everyone falls...just that maybe those that fell elsewhere dun have this place to seek help like you've created....ever tot abt that...you da pioneer......another good on ya mate

I don't see anyone starting a thread in a hi fi forum proclaiming that they want to marry their amplifiers or speakers.
Cos you cant fuck the vacuum tubes and transistors and not many has the diameter to fill the bass duct on those cannot make it speakers neither can those high fidelity equip CMI, AR, BBBJ and most importantly, give da feeling

Why the hell would anyone ever dream of marrying a sex worker? I've been to internationalsexguide.org and adultforums.co.nz and hardly ever come across these "i want to marry my favourite hooker" threads. Why do they keep popping up in every section of this forum????:eek:
This is something one can never understand till he or she falls into the pit.....its a scary cycle and it will never be lack of new entrees

Is there something wrong with Sinkie men or what? Are they that deprived of love and affection that they have to find solace in the arms and between the legs of a freakin WHORE! What's happening to the country!
Becos of the CONTROLLED environment, and lack of activities in society, people got nottin better to do.
In oz, the weekends, you can take your 4X4 go to the lake, have a barbi, go get some real solid fishing etc.....but here.....what's there to do???????
So, again, many factors are linked to government regulations and environment.

I concede defeat!:eek:
I rest my case....Gday mate:D

[colins]

I concede defeat!:eek: Those who want to marry prostitutes, pimp their daughters, leave their wives for hookers, transfer all their wealth to some cheap PRC whore... BE MY GUEST! It's your life, your money and your destiny.

I thought I was contributing meaningfully by setting up this section to help knock some sense into people who seem to have sperm leaking from their testicles to their brains. It seems I have failed miserably.

All I can say is I'm extremely disappointed. I set up this forum so that Singaporeans could discuss commercial sex the way they discuss computers, cellphones, hi fi etc.

I don't see anyone starting a thread in a hi fi forum proclaiming that they want to marry their amplifiers or speakers. Why the hell would anyone ever dream of marrying a sex worker? I've been to internationalsexguide.org and adultforums.co.nz and hardly ever come across these "i want to marry my favourite hooker" threads. Why do they keep popping up in every section of this forum????:eek: Is there something wrong with Sinkie men or what? Are they that deprived of love and affection that they have to find solace in the arms and between the legs of a freakin WHORE! What's happening to the country!

Bro, you set up a good forum, it addresses real social issues. We're here to address them as well. Without all of us, such issues are always kept in the cardboard until someone burst and kill everybody in sight.

If there is a definition for a whore, there is also a definition for 'good mothers'. But the link between them should NEVER be biased. We can always say bastardy things in a forum, but contributors should always check their bias, if not we perpectuate more harm than help.

You separate this section away from the rest, this is a good move becos you recognised that such trend exist. Why dun you just admit that it is thru your own goodness that you haven't shut all of this down permanently? Yes it generates advert sales but you can similarly generate the same or more amount by putting more 'interesting' sections. If something is wrong with everybody and you can't see why everybody is seemingly stupid except you, there must a reason behind it, isn't it?

Thank you bro, you've answered all my challenges.

[jojogigi]

i also have nothing to say liao. thank you for your answers uncle sam.

obama/biden '09

[sammyboyfor]

Cos you cant fuck the vacuum tubes and transistors and not many has the diameter to fill the bass duct on those cannot make it speakers neither can those high fidelity equip CMI, AR, BBBJ and most importantly, give da feeling


I had to respond to this one.... The joy of listening to a state of the art tube amp through high quality speakers is better than sex with a cheap hooker!

i'm sure that BBBJ, AR and CMI feel pretty good too. However those are basic human responses built into the central nervous system and should not be cause for wanting to marry the cheap slut that provides them.

http://www.regonaudio.com/ongaku2.jpg

[DO_YOU_BJ]

[QUOTE=sammyboyfor;3207569]I had to respond to this one.... The joy of listening to a state of the art tube amp through high quality speakers is better than sex with a cheap hooker!

Dude, I've been an audiophile for over 15yrs......yes pure class A vacuums are the way to go.......
Maybe u can create a audiophile section then i'll sure participate...
Not trying to brag but my last setup was actually featured in HI-END magazine...the SG version la;)

[sammyboyfor]

but contributors should always check their bias, if not we perpectuate more harm than help.



Am I biased? the hell I am!!!!! I'm hate stupidity and I can't think of anything more stupid than marrying a hooker!

And while some here will proudly proclaim that they have no problems with this, you'll notice that they do so from a position of ANONYMITY hiding behind an internet moniker.

Perhaps they're a bit more concerned about what society thinks of their activities and choice of partners than they would like to admit. :rolleyes:

[cablesnwires]

This is not a fair example because they are different issues bro.

I know we are comparing apples to oranges, I am just expanding the scenario and that society is difficult to accept certain moral values.

If you have a son who wants to marry a whore, you will object knowing that your son will face a lot of difficulties in future, and knowing that the risk of their marriage falling apart is greater due to the problems inherent in such unions. Also, as a father, you will always think that you know the world much better than your son and you will want to shield your son from what you believe will be a tough time ahead.

Absolutely agree with you on this.

The father may not give the son his blessings because at that point in time, the son still has the choice whether or not to proceed with the marriage. If this situation happens to me in future, and if my son chooses to proceed notwithstanding my violent objections, then as a father, I think even though I may not give him my blessings, I will try my level best to make life better for him after their marriage (maybe give him some money to start life somewhere else abroad or try to think of some other solutions).

Why the need to start life somewhere else? Is it because of the fear that society might reject them?

What the boss asked was who wants to be the child of a whore. This is a totally different scenario.

I know, but I am expanding it to include society acceptance. Can society really accepts this?

As a child, you have no choice over who your parents are and what they did in the past. If your parents are a loving couple after marriage, provide you with all the love and care in the world, why should you bother too much what was your mum profession in the past? Surely a mother's love far surpasses anything else in this world.

Agreed, all child borne regardless of what their parents past, are all innocent parties. They will be subjected to snide remarks and even at times abuses from these people.

Contrast these two scenarios; (1) a family where both parents are highly paid professionals (eg brain surgeons) but have no time to spend with their children, where their children are probably more conversant in Tagalog or Bahasa Indonesia instead of Chinese, have plenty of money to spend but gets to see the parents for less than 8 hours a week, and (2) a family where they are just getting by, no luxury items but the children gets to spend quality time with their parents, and where the children gets all the love and care from their parents.

I am in agreement with this as well, quality time with children cannot equate to wealth, nor to the parents past.

I think a child would probably grow up far more balanced with his head and heart in the right place in scenario (2) even though his mother may have been a whore in the past.

The past does not matter to the child, but be prepared to face all the pressures from the society

Of course the two scenarios are two ends of the spectrum and I am not saying that whores will make good mothers. End of the day, whether a woman was a whore in the past has no bearings on whether she will be a good wife to her husband and a good mother to her children.

Yes, as mentioned before, but like I said, be prepared to face the harsh reality from society.

The question should not be who wants to be the son of a whore, but rather who wants to be the son of a loving mother. I am sure most people will put their hands up to this question. The follow up question would be if you have a loving mother, do you mind that she used to be a whore? I don't know about the rest but I wouldn't and couldn't.

Why couldn't, some may ask. If you look at all the sacrifices that your mother made and all the love and care that your mother poured on you, can you in good conscience reject your mother's love simply because of what she did before you were born? Can you bear to break her heart?

Definitely not, but that is an adult's point of view. What about the growing part? Can the child bear the brunt of the society's view? Mind you that they are still growing up and they want to be accepted by the society as well. I cannot imagine the trauma they had to go through while growing up.


One thing is for sure, if one is prepared to marry a WL, he should be prepared to face the consequences of the future. And if he decides to have children, he will have to make sure their children are well protected.

[colins]

Am I biased? the hell I am!!!!! I'm hate stupidity and I can't think of anything more stupid than marrying a hooker!

And while some here will proudly proclaim that they have no problems with this, you'll notice that they do so from a position of ANONYMITY hiding behind an internet moniker.

Perhaps they're a bit more concerned about what society thinks of their activities and choice of partners than they would like to admit. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I guess if its something we hate we won't have the motivation to understand it. Then it remains a black hole and turn out a bias everytime you give a comment.

When people reach out, the first step is always puny. But the significance is great, even with anonymity. Nobody wants to subject themselves to scrutiny what, esp when they have families. But if you immediately say that they are stupid to love a whore without considering that they might be cheated or confused, they will just shrink back again. The spirit of the forum dies along with it.

Cheers :)

[uiop]

Small wonder the country is becoming nothing more than a huge whorehouse!:eek:

What's happening to the country!??????

That the downfall of singapore because of this bunch of moron. :rolleyes:

[jojogigi]

wrong post.....

[ekemono]

http://www.regonaudio.com/ongaku2.jpg

Is that an AudioNote Ongaku? It can buy you many many many bonk...

[sammyboyfor]

The spirit of the forum dies along with it.

Cheers :)

The spirit of the forum is supposed to revolve around discussing whores for the sex objects that they are.

This "agony aunt" section is something I was forced to introduce in an attempt to remove this inane pollution from other sections of the forum.:(

[sammyboyfor]

Is that an AudioNote Ongaku? It can buy you many many many bonk...

I stand corrected. Someone on this earth HAS fallen in love with his amplifier!

My Torrid Love Affair With The Ongaku! (http://www.positive-feedback.com/pfbackissues/0701/rochlin.ongaku.7n1.html)

My Torrid Love Affair With The Ongaku!
Steve Rochlin

Ya know, it took me two days just to come up with that title. After all, what kinda kook buys an integrated amplifier instead of a home to live in... literally?! And why does such an amplifier transcend time and space in such a way as to make even the most die hard naysayers concede to its seduction? Furthermore, how do ya tell your mom you bought audio exotica instead of a home?!?!?! Enter into my fantasy world, where you too might find yourself being seduced by the music.

After reading a review in a UK based magazine about the Audio Note Oto, i decided to buy it. It was a few grand, and my other amps were getting kinda old anyway. So off goes a call to Leonard Norwitz, Audio Note’s USA distributor at the time. At the end of the conversation i told ‘em that the Ongaku is really what i’d like but... SH’ YEAH, me and my big mouth. Leonard was waxing lyrically of how good the Ongaku is. Leonard, being the cool dude he is, sent me some literature. You could just hear how he truly loved the Ongaku for musical reasons. Being unsure of spending this kinda fundage on an amplifier, some reassurance from a local close friend of mine — we’ll call ‘Jim’ — was in order.

Now Jim was a music lover himself. When i mentioned the Ongaku he said "Ongakwhat?". It took a while to explain it to him. Now Jim is one of my closest, dearest, most kindest dudes i know who loves music. Sure, he himself delves deeply into this hobby. He listened patiently then asked a few questions. Things were going great until he asked "Well, how many watts is it?" Now you tell me, how does one explain that you’re gonna buy a piece of gear instead of a home, let alone one with only 27 watts per channel? "Twenty seven watts!" Jim exclaimed. Nowadays, 27 watts is a lot in single-ended land, but this was way before single-ended stuff was really known here in America as mainstream high-end audio. To make a long story short, i bought it sound unheard, though i did make sure i could return it just in case!

So that magical day came. Like a kid on Christmas morning i opened her up. After sorting through things and setting it up i was ready. "Ooooh!" i said as those big GE VT4C (211) tubes light up, like a really cool night light. Truly mesmerizing. At first listen it sounded really good; not totally awesome, but really good. Still was kinda depressed because it was just not ‘happening’. For what now costs 90 grand, this thing should make me sit up and beg for more! Called Leonard to tell him the Ongaku arrived safely, worked, and stuff. Leonard said to me that it takes about 10 days of nonstop music for a ticket to happyville. Well, dunno about you, but instant gratification is on my list.

Ok, so the 10 days passed... Seemed more like forever.

Time to sit down and put on one of my favorite recordings (Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon). Hmmm... Ok, now let’s try some classical music. This was, by now, a Saturday night. There’s a ritual we got here on Sunday mornings. That is to play Chesky’s recording of O Magnum Mysterium. It was during this recording it all made sense to me. Though this music is spiritual, for the first time was truly spiritual. One could feel the hall. The way the pipe organ filled the hall with its presence placed about 45 feet behind the choir. Sure the music sounded good before the Ongaku, but not like this. It was as if they were there to the extent that even the feelings of the performance transcended the recording and into my home. This was my first deeply spiritual experience with reproduced music...

But not my last.

Time and time again, the Ongaku gives all who partake the feeling of being there. Awestruck, i called Jim to tell him the good news. Jim was skeptical. So he played one CD after another, not giving me any clue as to what he was feeling. After he was done, he turned to me and said "It’s amazing Steve."

i replied "Yeah, it is."

The glow on my face was like the glow of the Ongaku’s output tubes. Sure, my music reproduction system has had solid state units galore, other tube designs, and even some hybrids. But just one good listen to the Ongaku and you’re hooked like a junkie. It’s more than the way it soundstages, which is quite good. It’s more than its speed, which is faster then a Ferrari F50. Its transparency... the way it reproduces music … is just that good.

Remember how you felt after your first time making love? That deeper satisfaction that just defies words? Or if you’re nuts like me, remember your first, er, um, LSD trip? Ah, the stupidity of youth! Anyway, it’s awe inspiring. There’s just more there there, ya know? For weeks folks came from around the State to hear it. Each time they left with the look of higher enlightenment on their faces. If there’s one component capable of deeply satisfying your audio erotica — er, um, exotica — it’s the Ongaku.

The way massed violins are reproduced is unlike anything else i’ve ever heard, except during live music performances. One can not only "see" the musicians, you can feel the way the string vibrated the body of the instrument. Being a percussionist myself, we just have to discuss the way it reproduces the recording of the All-Star Percussion Ensemble (Golden Strings GS CD005). Ya see, the vibraphone is a very hard instrument to reproduce, in my humble opinion. There are overtones, various phasing of the tones as the sound is allowed to pass through the lower pipes, or not pass through the pipes. So how did the Ongaku do? Startlingly well. This was the first time i felt that there was actually a vibraphone in my listening room! So all is well and good — but can she rock?!?!?

Being a big Rush fan myself, it was time to hear the album Moving Pictures and crank the volume to 11!!! YEP, it rocked SOLID, while my neighbors went for their guns!

Sure, all the above is just an unadulterated, no-holds-barred glowing report, yet i haven’t even discussed how music on vinyl sounds. Ok, well, just imagine all the above and add to it. Even now, as i need to sell it due to personal financial situations, my girlfriend even wants to keep it. Yeah, she has heard other toys in my system, but she always seems to say something like "Well Steve, that new amp here for review is nice, but can we put the Ongaku back where it belongs now?" Even she’s hooked!!! How many of you can say that about a piece of your equipment?

Well, now comes the negatives. More power. Sure, there’s the Audio Note Gako-On, which is roughly double the power of the Ongaku. SH’YEAH, if you got $250,000 gathering dust. Still, i’ve actually heard the Gaku-On, though not in my system. Didn’t like it. Not as transparent as the Ongaku used in the same system, to my ears. i’d still like a bit more transparency too. When i bought the Ongaku the standard rectifier tubes were the Mullard GZ34’s. Now standard is the Mullard CV378. Gotta agree, the CV378’s are more transparent, yet they also take away some of the dynamics. Choose your poison.

The Ongaku is a 90 pound beast! Thank goodness little to no real maintenance has been needed over the past two years. The only other gripe i have is that i really wish it was — well — more attractive. Maybe some nice Italian wood side pieces? C’mon, for 90 grand this thing should not only seduce you audibly, but also visually too!

As i read through the previous Positive Feedback review of the Ongaku (Volume 5, Number 1), it doesn’t amaze me that the reviewers still loved it, even with the bad buzzing. Since that review, Audio Note had added a few dB of feedback and some other minor modifications. May i humbly suggest you ask — no, DEMAND — that if you buy the Ongaku they take those few dB of feedback out of it. These few dB of feedback are claimed by Audio Note to help the amp and... Still, i hated it. For 90 grand i believe that no feedback should be accomplished. Sure, this paragraph might make Peter Q. of Audio Note write me a nasty letter. i don’t mind. C’mon Peter, even you can hear the difference between the few dB standard and the zero dB that should be there — or not there, shall we say. Taking away those few dB really opens up the soundstage to give a clearer picture into the music. Also, the instrument tonality is taken to a higher level. The Ongaku Positive Feedback had probably had zero feedback in it.

So what more can i say? With the Ongaku you get a preamplifier with one direct input, three standard inputs, and a tape loop as well. No XLR balanced inputs, no fancy lights (other then the tubes themselves). You get pounds and pounds of silver and one heck of a workout when you move it. Though when you play music through it in the right system, your rewards are many.

Give me Ongaku or give me death!

[yongzhen]

The spirit of the forum is supposed to revolve around discussing whores for the sex objects that they are.

This "agony aunt" section is something I was forced to introduce in an attempt to remove this inane pollution from other sections of the forum.:(

No need to b so 'ji dong' lah, there will always b different ppl with different thinking fr us. Whether right or wrong, we will hv to bare the outcome later.

[sammyboyfor]

No need to b so 'ji dong' lah, there will always b different ppl with different thinking fr us. Whether right or wrong, we will hv to bare the outcome later.

I don't mind different opinions and moral standards. It's the INFERIOR points of view that I don't tolerate very well. :rolleyes:

Example of a different opinion "I prefer doggie to mish.".

Example of an inferior opinion "whores are forced by circumstance to sell their cunts.".;)

[DTCEPL]

Are they that deprived of love and affection that they have to find solace in the arms and between the legs of a freakin WHORE!

There is your answer Boss.....:D You knew it all along:cool:

In the heart of the man who kena KCed by a whore, he don't see the woman as a whore, but rather painted a nice picture infront or around her, a picture that he wants to see in her, camouflaging her, hoping not or never to see or realised her true state. But when the paint got washed off thru time and numerous incidents.....there goes the truth, there goes the 'Pretty Woman' dream, and comes a broken heart and another richer happier woman.

[sammyboyfor]

In the heart of the man who kena KCed by a whore, he don't see the woman as a whore, but rather painted a nice picture infront or around her,

Another one bites the dust!!!! :eek: Damned!!! they're falling thick and fast! :( It used to be one a week. Now it seems to be one "I fell in love with a prostitute's cheebye" post a day along with the usual inability to distinguish a noun from a verb and the standard "I find this prostitute to be different from ALL OTHER prostitutes in the whole wide world" explanatory clause!

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/matters-heart/101088-love-china-girl-pls-advise.html#post3209409

Probably the only way to break the cycle is a bullet to the head!:rolleyes:

[DTCEPL]

they're falling thick and fast! :( It used to be one a week. Now it seems to be one "I fell in love with a prostitute's cheebye" post a day along.

Probably the only way to break the cycle is a bullet to the head!:rolleyes:


I guess the PRC Gals are just too attractive and powderful, too many selections, too much for the Singkie Man......and the PRC Gals just loved our Country because no language barrier and 1 to 4.6 exchange rate, they will keep coming and coming in tons and tons until all the Singkie Woman go married Ang Mos and Singkie Man married PRC Gals.

[sammyboyfor]

I guess the PRC Gals are just too attractive and powderful,

PRC girls suck! Most of them have freakin brillo pads between their legs and the most grotesque armpit growth the world has ever known.

They also have awful bad breath caused by a combination of smoking and poor dental hygiene. :rolleyes: I guess dental floss hasn't made it's appearance in most of China yet!

http://www.asiangirlsnextdoor.com/adultcheck/idximages/August01%202007b%20040.jpg

[DTCEPL]

Boss you have nevered failed to make the pussy looks:eek: puke puke......there goes my breakfast and tonite's PRC pussy treat, after looking to PICs that you post.....at least few days no pussy for me:D

[DHL8888]

PRC girls suck! Most of them have freakin brillo pads between their legs and the most grotesque armpit growth the world has ever known.

They also have awful bad breath caused by a combination of smoking and poor dental hygiene. :rolleyes: I guess dental floss hasn't made it's appearance in most of China yet!



Sam, I don't agree with you at all as NOT all PRC girls have freakin brillo pads between their legs neither got their armpit hair shaved. Not all PRC girls are smokers and I knew many have good hygiene habits too. Perhaps those you had known and bonked have very poor health issues OR otherwise you are anti PRC girls :D

But one thing I got to agree with you NEVER trust a PRC girls when they come to work here. 98% go for your money other than true love. 2% exceptional. So don't RULE them out :D

[uiop]

PRC girls suck!

[/CENTER]

That picture really gross!!!:p

[Cheonging101]

I stand corrected. Someone on this earth HAS fallen in love with his amplifier!

I was about to say that I've heard of people screwing the exhaust pipes of their automobiles (http://www.autofiends.com/index.php/2008/09/man-humps-his-vw-brags-about-it/) in a bid to beget Transformer-like offsprings. (Who wants to have a Transformer as your child? Show of hands!:p) But your beat me to it.

I had to respond to this one.... The joy of listening to a state of the art tube amp through high quality speakers is better than sex with a cheap hooker!

How about expensive social escorts? :D

i'm sure that BBBJ, AR and CMI feel pretty good too. However those are basic human responses built into the central nervous system and should not be cause for wanting to marry the cheap slut that provides them.

I'm sure the joy of listening to "a state-of-the-art tube amplifier through high-quality speakers" is... well... joyful... but I also don't see the cause for wanting to purchase the inexorably expensive piece of equipment and place it back home. Then again, I'm sure there are many bros who would think otherwise but at least, I don't call them "stupid", "moronic" and many other debilitating labels...

*Huge-ass pic of amp that is not supposed to be in this section*


According to the unwritten doctrines of this forum, this picture warrants at least a zap for just being here!:p

[DTCEPL]

2% exceptional. So don't RULE them out :D

The balance 2% have not learn the trick from their seniors yet....let them stay a while or when they are back on their 2nd tour.....there goes the 2%:rolleyes:

KNN there two weeks, I am getting more and more anti PRC Gals........what have gone into me!!!

[Peggie83]

Very heated debate on pro-prostitutes marriage & those who against it :D

[newbadass]

Am I biased? the hell I am!!!!! I'm hate stupidity and I can't think of anything more stupid than marrying a hooker!


Should be "I hate stupidity". Your sentence, in the long form, reads "I am hate stupidity".

This sentence would only be correct if you are "hate stupidity", in which case you would be the lack of intelligence associated with hatred.

How's this for going out of point? :D

[newbadass]

PRC girls suck!


Yes they do... some of them swallow too! :D


Most of them have freakin brillo pads between their legs and the most grotesque armpit growth the world has ever known.


Damn it man! What have you got against armpit hair? It turns ME on!


They also have awful bad breath caused by a combination of smoking and poor dental hygiene.

You neglected to mention swallowing tons of semen :D

[sammyboyfor]

Sam, I don't agree with you at all as NOT all PRC girls have freakin brillo pads between their legs neither got their armpit hair shaved. Not all PRC girls are smokers and I knew many have good hygiene habits too. Perhaps those you had known and bonked have very poor health issues OR otherwise you are anti PRC girls :D


I don't do whores just as I hate using public toilets:p. I find the very thought of commercial sex extremely distasteful. :eek:

Data on PRC whores is from my most reliable source of info :D at http://www.sammyboyforum.com/pictures-our-sexual-escapades-private-section/48977-hero-china.html

[sammyboyfor]

I'm sure the joy of listening to "a state-of-the-art tube amplifier through high-quality speakers" is... well... joyful... but I also don't see the cause for wanting to purchase the inexorably expensive piece of equipment and place it back home. Then again, I'm sure there are many bros who would think otherwise but at least, I don't call them "stupid", "moronic" and many other debilitating labels...


The Audionote Ongaku costs USD79,000. Anyone who has that sort of money to burn cannot be stupid!;)

The Audionote Ongaku will give many years of FAITHFUL trouble free pleasure. it is literally worth it's weight in SILVER!:)

DAGOGO Review: Audio Note Ongaku integrated amplifier: REVIEW (http://www.dagogo.com/AudioNoteONGAKU-Review.html)

[colins]

Anyone who has that sort of money to burn cannot be stupid!


Heard that somewhere before, but in a completely different light! hahaha :D

[sammyboyfor]

Heard that somewhere before, but in a completely different light! hahaha :D

Let's look at it this way then.

An Audionote Ongaku costs $79,000. It produces superlative sound. It will bring new meaning to your entire CD collection. You'll hear instruments you never knew were there and you'll be able to pinpoint exactly where they are on the soundstage!

Play your favourite hot number and you'll be all fired up. Slot in music that inspires you and you'll achieve new heights. Put on your favourite relaxation tracks and your soul will be soothed and your mind purged of all things bad.

On the other hand, marrying a PRC whore will cost you a hellava lot more. She'll screw your dick, she'll fuck with your mind, she'll pass you her Herpes and Genital Wart virus collection for sure and her HIV cesspool if you happen to be unlucky.

When that's done and dusted, she'll help herself to half of everything you own courtesy of the women's charter and run off with her next sorry victim.

Who's the stupid one? You tell me!:rolleyes:

[DHL8888]

The balance 2% have not learn the trick from their seniors yet....let them stay a while or when they are back on their 2nd tour.....there goes the 2%:rolleyes:

KNN there two weeks, I am getting more and more anti PRC Gals........what have gone into me!!!

From your past postings , your impression toward PRC girls the other way round 2% against 98% :D

[DHL8888]

Let's look at it this way then.

An Audionote Ongaku costs $79,000. It produces superlative sound. It will bring new meaning to your entire CD collection. You'll hear instruments you never knew were there and you'll be able to pinpoint exactly where they are on the soundstage!

Play your favourite hot number and you'll be all fired up. Slot in music that inspires you and you'll achieve new heights. Put on your favourite relaxation tracks and your soul will be soothed and your mind purged of all things bad.

On the other hand, marrying a PRC whore will cost you a hellava lot more. She'll screw your dick, she'll fuck with your mind, she'll pass you here Herpes and Genital Wart virus collection for sure and her HIV cesspool if you happen to be unlucky.

When that's done and dusted, she'll help herself to half of everything you own courtesy of the women's charter and run off with her next sorry victim.

Who's the stupid one? You tell me!:rolleyes:

Listening your hit from Audionote Ongaku and fucking a PRC whore is completely different type of pleasure. One satisfy your mind while the later your desire. How nice to have both at the same time... :p

[Cheonging101]

The Audionote Ongaku costs USD79,000. Anyone who has that sort of money to burn cannot be stupid!

The Audionote Ongaku will give many years of FAITHFUL trouble free pleasure. it is literally worth it's weight in SILVER!


Many pardons for having a totally differing opinion here, but I would not spend more than 0.1 Million dollars on a machine that does nothing but provides sound. I prefer to hear the real thing. With that kind of money, I could fly around the world to attend the concerts of said singers/performers. :D

Let's look at it this way then.

An Audionote Ongaku costs US$79,000. It produces superlative sound. It will bring new meaning to your entire CD collection. You'll hear instruments you never knew were there and you'll be able to pinpoint exactly where they are on the soundstage!

Play your favourite hot number and you'll be all fired up. Slot in music that inspires you and you'll achieve new heights. Put on your favourite relaxation tracks and your soul will be soothed and your mind purged of all things bad.

On the other hand, marrying a PRC whore will cost you a hellava lot more. She'll screw your dick, she'll fuck with your mind, she'll pass you her Herpes and Genital Wart virus collection for sure and her HIV cesspool if you happen to be unlucky.

When that's done and dusted, she'll help herself to half of everything you own courtesy of the women's charter and run off with her next sorry victim.

Who's the stupid one? You tell me!

Again, subjective, boss. Once this amplifier could start giving head, please do inform us. :p Come to think of it, why did you buy off Sammyboy forum instead of some other forums with similar interests (http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl) as yours? I'm sure you'd be a happier (albeit poorer) man. Hey, but at least, in this case, money CAN buy happiness!:D When you do not need to go through all these threads and posts that irks you, I don't think you will need a machine to make you feel good anymore.:rolleyes:

[sammyboyfor]

Again, subjective, boss. Once this amplifier could start giving head, please do inform us. :p Come to think of it, why did you buy off Sammyboy forum instead of some other forums with similar interests (http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl) as yours? I'm sure you'd be a happier (albeit poorer) man. Hey, but at least, in this case, money CAN buy happiness!:D When you do not need to go through all these threads and posts that irks you, I don't think you will need a machine to make you feel good anymore.:rolleyes:

I'm not at all interested in Hi Fi equipment. I'm just using this obscenely priced tube amp as an example.

My hobby is photography.

And don't get me wrong. I enjoy a good blow job and a heavenly fuck. However, I would prefer to have sex within a monogamous, loving relationship with her girl who sees me as a person and not a cash machine.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Here's my 2 cents worth on my very limited knowledge on high fidelity audio

Let's look at it this way then.

An Audionote Ongaku costs $79,000. It produces superlative sound. It will bring new meaning to your entire CD collection.
No 1 amp can produce music of all wavebands to please every ear.
All amps are designed to be SOLID in one spectrum of the audio band....
i.e, vocal, high, low....but there's no all rounder in the market place even now as we discuss about this. Price is not a relative topic in being an audiophile...it's how you mix n match the entire setup.
Do not forget, how you mix everything up will also determine the entire outcome of the music it reproduces. In audio, specs are never important cos sound u hear will not match specs.......
In audio setups, you got interlink, interconnect plugs, source, power amps, pres, speaker cables and finally the speakers.....also not forgetting, you also got the recording quality of the CD....so....
Assuming i have a pair of QUAD ESL63signature power speakers running on your amps and some good cd players, and i play some pop like depeche mode cd, i'll prolly feel depeche mode feels so dead...damn, where did the bass go for people are people...etc......so it's a mix and match and most importantly, the match is to suit your listening taste...so again...audiophiles are the most selfish bunch of people!

You'll hear instruments you never knew were there and you'll be able to pinpoint exactly where they are on the soundstage!
This can be done even on PC speakers and also on a basic pioneer stereo system la......just the details arent as clear and crisp only......

Play your favourite hot number and you'll be all fired up.
Like what i mentioned above........i know people like people sucks on audiophile setups but somebody is sweet...

[walabis]

I'm not at all interested in Hi Fi equipment. I'm just using this obscenely priced tube amp as an example.

My hobby is photography.

I thought you like cycling :D

[sammyboyfor]

I thought you like cycling :D

Cycling is a "sport".:rolleyes:

[sammyboyfor]

Here's my 2 cents worth on my very limited knowledge on high fidelity audio


You know a lot more about hi fi than I do. I think people who pay anything more than $400 for a sound system are nuts.

However, they're still a lot smarter than morons who want to marry hookers. :rolleyes:

[DTCEPL]

You know a lot more about hi fi than I do. I think people who pay anything more than $400 for a sound system are nuts.



I brought my set for only $170 dollars at Harvey Norman, its a JVC.....I bo money, so can onli afford a cheapo set....but I am very happy with it....can play DVD, VCD, CD and Radio:D

If I got $XX,XXX, I will use those money to invest in Forex or Stock Market, and maybe leave $1k for cheonging purpose:rolleyes:

[Cheonging101]

You know a lot more about hi fi than I do. I think people who pay anything more than $400 for a sound system are nuts.

However, they're still a lot smarter than morons who want to marry hookers. :rolleyes:

Awww... come on, boss! Not again...:( Like you said:


The Audionote Ongaku costs USD79,000. Anyone who has that sort of money to burn cannot be stupid!

There are guys out there who can easily afford these things (and maybe they do!) but got into a relationship with a prostitue either willingly or unwittingly. Bro TS blew at least SGD 20K for his infatuation without flinching (and still willing to pay more!). He probably earns twice of what you make, boss. I don't think these guys are morons. Unwise, probably, but definitely not mentally-challenged.

Instead of putting these unfortunate bros down, why can't we just keep caustic and unhelpful name-calling remarks to ourselves while thanking our own lucky stars that this, at least, did not happen to us?;)

[sammyboyfor]

Instead of putting these unfortunate bros down, why can't we just keep caustic and unhelpful name-calling remarks to ourselves while thanking our own lucky stars that this, at least, did not happen to us?;)

I have no problems giving assistance to the unfortunate. However, I see no reason why people need to be saved from their own stupidity!!!

It's so freakin obvious that as far as whores are concerned, money counts above all else. That's why they chose whoring as a profession in the first place.

Whores have a serious character defect. Think about it. How many females are willing to get fucked by strangers in return for $$$$. The answer : a very small % of the total female population. Anyone who can't see beyond their dastardly scheming minds needs a lobotomy.

[DTCEPL]

It's so freakin obvious that as far as whores are concerned, money counts above all else. That's why they chose whoring as a profession in the first place.

Whores have a serious character defect. Think about it. How many females are willing to get fucked by strangers in return for $$$$. The answer : a very small % of the total female population.

There is only one reason I can think off why Gals chose such as a profession: Quick and Good but not Easy Money.

[jojogigi]

Whores have a serious character defect. Think about it. How many females are willing to get fucked by strangers in return for $$$$. The answer : a very small % of the total female population. Anyone who can't see beyond their dastardly scheming minds needs a lobotomy.

Calling whores character defect is like calling mentally ill patients character defect. how does character defect depicts one's occupation? Catholic priests that molest altar boys. thats character defect! Prostitutes who scam people out of their money. thats character defect! Gamblers who used up all their families money for their addiction. that character defect. But prostitutes selling their body for money, character defect?
If prostitutes are character defects. Men who looks for them. what are they? that includes you my friend.

why do ladies wanna be prostitutes?
Some have been sexually abused as either children or adults, and see sex in exchange for money as the fair deal. They feel that if they are going to be be mistreated or used by people, they think it's better to get paid for it. (example. Annabelle Chong)

Some have drug habits, left at a young age from bad home situations or are manipulated into working as prostitutes by boyfriends or other people in order to support that person's parasitic lifestyle.

Some are regular people who enjoy sex and don't have an issue with earning money for it. Obviously no one was forced to work in Geylang or some KTVs.


Sometimes this is their best option for making money because they are seriously impoverished or in some way unemployable (addiction etc).
Its sad but its their choice.

and some just want fast cash. Just like us gamblers.

so in my opinion everybody has a little character defect in one way or another.
And don't jump on me because im defending prostitution or something. I'm looking from another perspective.
Its always easy to criticise characters on moral grounds but we never see ourselves in moral grounds also. By promoting prostitution using this sammyboyforum. You have an indirect part to play in character defecting. uncle sammy.

[sammyboyfor]

By promoting prostitution using this sammyboyforum. You have an indirect part to play in character defecting. uncle sammy.

I have absolutely no problems with prostitution. I set up the forum so that Singaporeans could get the best bang for their buck. (pun intended).

Nor am I claiming that apart from whores, the rest of the world are saints.

All I have is a very simple and straightforward message. Whores are for fucking. They are NOT for marrying. They have a mindset and attitude towards life that precludes their being suitable wife material. People may quote examples of so-and-so marrying a whore and living happily ever after but I can assure you that such instances are few and far between. The vast majority end in disaster for the MAN while the whore goes on to enrich herself further from the gullibility of her next victim.

People who can't get that into their thick skulls deserve all the misery that befalls them. :rolleyes:

[jojogigi]

I have absolutely no problems with prostitution. I set up the forum so that Singaporeans could get the best bang for their buck. (pun intended).

Nor am I claiming that apart from whores, the rest of the world are saints.

All I have is a very simple and straightforward message. Whores are for fucking. They are NOT for marrying. They have a mindset and attitude towards life that precludes their being suitable wife material. People may quote examples of so-and-so marrying a whore and living happily ever after but I can assure you that such instances are few and far between. The vast majority end in disaster for the MAN while the whore goes on to enrich herself further from the gullibility of her next victim.

People who can't get that into their thick skulls deserve all the misery that befalls them. :rolleyes:

ok this i agree with you. well said.

[porscheclub]

PRC girls suck! Most of them have freakin brillo pads between their legs and the most grotesque armpit growth the world has ever known.

They also have awful bad breath caused by a combination of smoking and poor dental hygiene. :rolleyes: I guess dental floss hasn't made it's appearance in most of China yet!

http://www.asiangirlsnextdoor.com/adultcheck/idximages/August01%202007b%20040.jpg

Wow another week & another drama.

Dear Uncle Sam,
That's a freaking sweeping statement & in fact a few as u dished out. When was the last time you were in China & having a proper conversation with intelligent, urban Chinese PRC females that's not in this sex trade?

The prostitute is a job by choice but how about the thousands & perhaps millions of those forced into it? Poverty, abducted, raped, war etc & again the thousands born out of it? Do they have a choice & will they not be good mothers? Again, these cases are not exactly isolated but they are facts of daily life.

Let me give a real life eg. I have a relative who do not know who's his real father. The Singaporean mother was not a hooker but a 5-figured professional who screwed around & the poor father brought up, not just him but two other sisters only to find out that they aren't his after a dozen years. In the DNA reports, the 2 gals belong to 2 men & the father refused to do any further check on the son because he love the boy & it doesn't matter anymore. The mother may not be a hooker but she slept around & gave birth to children from different men. Today, the boy is with the father but they still have an on going bitter court case over custody.

Now, I'm no angel either & I visit prostitutes, lived with them but does that make me an immoral person or a lesser being?

No, I will not pimp my loved ones & nor will I allow my son to marry a hooker but I'm definitely worried about my daughter cos when u look @ what our teens are doing today. I am very worried.

I think Jesus & Buddha said something like, "before you take out the dust in your brother's eye, first take out the plank in yours"

I have not been able practise that as well. So, peace everyone.

[porscheclub]

Dude, I've been an audiophile for over 15yrs......yes pure class A vacuums are the way to go.......
Maybe u can create a audiophile section then i'll sure participate...
Not trying to brag but my last setup was actually featured in HI-END magazine...the SG version la;)

Bro, looks like we have another common hobby. Bought anything from that shop below LP? ;)

[porscheclub]

There's nothing buried. I'm just sick and tired of having to pick up the pieces when people I know mess up perfectly good lives for a freakin hooker!

All this "true love" will conquer all garbage does nobody any good either. I'd believe it was true love if the hooker weighed 130kg, had bad breath, a moustache and cunt that smelt like dead fish.

The reality of the matter is that married men who have grown tired of their out of shape wives (usually from carrying their children) are simply overcome with lust for a pretty young whore chick who is out to milk them dry.

True love? Gimme a break! :rolleyes: It was "true love" when they married their wives too and look what happened.


Now, this I agree. So, I gather from what you've said is that you are monogamy despite easy access to this "pornhouse" & remainig absolutely faithful? Kudos to u, sir! My highest respect.

[justl00king]

Gotta agree with boss for this one- Whores are for banging only...period. :rolleyes: :p

[uiop]

this picture warrants at least a zap for just being here!

I did my part, what about you? :p

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro, looks like we have another common hobby. Bought anything from that shop below LP? ;)

Stopped investing in this for a few years liao...dun even know now got on the set once a month or not....
Free time always playing golf in the day...or HFJ at nite....so honestly, have not visited any shops or did any follow up reads hahahahahaha

But occassionally, still can pop on the Amanda Mcbroom and Sade to hear some SOLID vocals and find real meat to complete the picture hahahahaha:D

[ekemono]

But occassionally, still can pop on the Amanda Mcbroom and Sade to hear some SOLID vocals

Since you are into audiophille and female vocalist, have you tried Mary Black, especially her this song "Columbus"

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Since you are into audiophille and female vocalist, have you tried Mary Black, especially her this song "Columbus"

Oh yes, i have both her albums
If you're into power female vocals, may i recommend the below to you for you to STEAM hahahaha

All time Fav Female Throats hahaha
Babara Streisand
Amanda Mcbroom
Sade
Toni Childs
Julia Fordham
Laura Fygi
Bette Midler
Celine Dion
$$$$$ Brightman
Rickie Lee Jones
Annie Lennox
Tracy Chapman
Sandy Lam林癔连
Valen Hsu许茹芸
Beverley Craven
KD Lang
蔡琴
Mary Black
Shanghai Divas 1&2 (Steam compilation avail at That CD)

Male
Adrea Bocelli
Gosh Groban
Nat King Cole

All time fav instrumentals
Adreas Vollenweider
Chris Spheris
Kitaro

As you can see, female throats make me more shiok thus list long long....that's why me call DO_YOU_BJ hahahahaha

[sammyboyfor]

All time fav instrumentals
Adreas Vollenweider
Chris Spheris
Kitaro

As you can see, female throats make me more shiok thus list long long....that's why me call DO_YOU_BJ hahahahaha

.... and what does all this have to do with sex???:rolleyes:

[Peggie83]

Singapore society is open maybe marrying a whore is acceptable. Personally I am against the idea but then still having people marrying whore as wife.

[ekemono]

Oh yes, i have both her albums
If you're into power female vocals, may i recommend the below to you for you to STEAM hahahaha

The list are long. Among them I prefer Tracy Chapman with her "baby can I hold you" 's brushing of the steel giutar and the rhythmic "Mountains O things".

Whenever i hear these music, I recalled the days when I would dutifully practice the myth of audiophile setup, like putting bricks on top of speaker, pouring sand into the speaker stand column to tighten the sound. But yet I can't hear a damn different. Hahaha.., poor man's solution. :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

.... and what does all this have to do with sex???:rolleyes:

Yeah I know.....
But who started this topic?
Definitely not me!
Pot calling cattle black? Come on.........

[DO_YOU_BJ]

The list are long. Among them I prefer Tracy Chapman with her "baby can I hold you" 's brushing of the steel giutar and the rhythmic "Mountains O things".

Whenever i hear these music, I recalled the days when I would dutifully practice the myth of audiophile setup, like putting bricks on top of speaker, pouring sand into the speaker stand column to tighten the sound. But yet I can't hear a damn different. Hahaha.., poor man's solution. :D

HAHAHA bro i got zapped 3pts for replying that list to ya hahahaha

[kefuso]

tks to all bros here for the advice...just in case everyone thought I am too ashamed to face anyone by not heeding bro dybj and bro colin advice, well I am not being kc again...in fact, I was asked for a certain sum of 5-digit for bs story of hers and I told her ok, I give it to you but I am leaving you...cos I got no more money to pamper you...she called back and says she don't want the money as she can earn herself slowly...she rather foresake the money than me leaving...money can be earned but good guys are hard to meet...

Anyway, this case shld be closed as my heart is really painful now...exchange sms with my wife pertaining to our divorce and when we talk about all the sweet memories that we shared, both break down and cry...guess we still love each other but fated not meant to be together...my devil is actually my love for her, in terms of the loneliness and voidness that I am being deprived all these years...I don't know whether she or her colleagues will read this but I just wanna say "Darling, you will always be someone special to me and you will always have a place in my heart...wish you all the best and I still love you"

[kiko]

Bro Kefuso: I think things can still be settle out between your wife and u right.
if both of u still really love each other , just dont divourced. Is it possible to tell the lawyer , that u wont sign the letter, and u still love your wife. Bro the idea is reconciled with your wife and solved all issues, and although i dont know u, but i really hope u and your wife will still carry on as a couple and dont divourced. Bro, i wish u and your wife all the best and live together as a couple for the rest of your life . God bless!

[serabutan]

Very interesting thread, so much debates going on. :p

[yongzhen]

Bro Kefuso: I think things can still be settle out between your wife and u right.
if both of u still really love each other , just dont divourced. Is it possible to tell the lawyer , that u wont sign the letter, and u still love your wife. Bro the idea is reconciled with your wife and solved all issues, and although i dont know u, but i really hope u and your wife will still carry on as a couple and dont divourced. Bro, i wish u and your wife all the best and live together as a couple for the rest of your life . God bless!

Agreed 200%!!!!!! Y need to go to that stage if u both still love each other? If both really still love each other, than start to learn to give and take. Or else same problems will come back again even its with another person.

[V-字头]

Agreed 200%!!!!!! Y need to go to that stage if u both still love each other? If both really still love each other, than start to learn to give and take. Or else same problems will come back again even its with another person.

Bro, do cherish the one you love. When I got separated from my wife, I learn to realise that I could not live without her. Sometimes I will still think of her but I guess I must have neglected her with my work. Now our case is still pending a divorce.

If I can go back in time, I wish I would have cherish her more when she is still around and maybe, she will not leave me for another man.

[Peggie83]

Bro, do cherish the one you love. When I got separated from my wife, I learn to realise that I could not live without her. Sometimes I will still think of her but I guess I must have neglected her with my work. Now our case is still pending a divorce.

If I can go back in time, I wish I would have cherish her more when she is still around and maybe, she will not leave me for another man.

Old one don't go New one can't come ;) you can always look for another wife.

[colins]

Old one don't go New one can't come ;) you can always look for another wife.

Wow...that's a universal advice. I guess it really takes time and experience to arrive at this conclusion.

[EtherC]

Bro Kefuso, she's not saying she loves you when she says she'll rather forsake money for you. The logic is like this: You're a dairy farmer who owns 10 cows. One of your high yield dairy cow suddenly stops producing the required quantity of milk because her calf died. Do you sell this good cow or milk the cow at a slower rate and hope she recovers from her foul mood and starts producing high yield?

[colins]

tks to all bros here for the advice...just in case everyone thought I am too ashamed to face anyone by not heeding bro dybj and bro colin advice, well I am not being kc again...in fact, I was asked for a certain sum of 5-digit for bs story of hers and I told her ok, I give it to you but I am leaving you...cos I got no more money to pamper you...she called back and says she don't want the money as she can earn herself slowly...she rather foresake the money than me leaving...money can be earned but good guys are hard to meet...


Why dun you take a step further by asking the rolex back from her, saying you need it for cashflow? This will be for a 'common good' between both of you cos when you get pass this cash crunch, you can continue to feed her fat. Either way, she doesn't need the watch to look nice while you slog for her benefit. All these are good excuses that you can use.

[DTCEPL]

Why dun you take a step further by asking the rolex back from her, saying you need it for cashflow?

A rolex:eek:.......Reminds of her again......In Feb 08 this, during the CNY period, my ex and I were having lunch in a Chinatown Restaurent during the weekday, sort of celebrating the festive mood, I realise she got a new Rolex on her wrist, I knew she will never buy such expensive items to wear......when I asked her who gave it to her....she blah blah blah - brought this 2nd hand from her jie mei.....blah blah blah....panicked and quickly take it out and put it back in her bag....etc. KNN some Taokay must have brought her the watch in exchange for sexual services......:(

Sometimes I really wonder why Man like us always fall so depth into their KC trap and ended up spending so much money, time and energy on such gals whom in-return treat us like a piece of Shit.:confused:

[Cheonging101]

I have no problems giving assistance to the unfortunate. However, I see no reason why people need to be saved from their own stupidity!!!

Not trying to sound Shakespearean or anything, but "Love ain't got no reason", boss. There are plenty of nice women out there married to total assholes with glaring character defects that could blind an earthworm. When emotions are concerned, logic don't work. For one thing, why do middle-income wage-earners like myself do charity work?

It's taking up way too much time and no monetary incentives to boot! Totally illogical to squander my time not doing anything to increase my net worth but hey, call me stupid. I'm doing it anyway because the emotions fulfilled are way better than what sex, music and/or photography could bring.

It's so freakin obvious that as far as whores are concerned, money counts above all else. That's why they chose whoring as a profession in the first place.

This is quite true, boss. But at least they aren't dealing in arms/drugs/slaves which I think would make such traffickers many rungs lower than sex traffickers on a morality ladder.

Whores have a serious character defect. Think about it. How many females are willing to get fucked by strangers in return for $$$$. The answer : a very small % of the total female population. Anyone who can't see beyond their dastardly scheming minds needs a lobotomy.

Answer to why people go ahead anyway:

All I have is a very simple and straightforward message. Whores are for fucking. They are NOT for marrying. They have a mindset and attitude towards life that precludes their being suitable wife material. People may quote examples of so-and-so marrying a whore and living happily ever after but I can assure you that such instances are few and far between. The vast majority end in disaster for the MAN while the whore goes on to enrich herself further from the gullibility of her next victim.
Boss, every guy who finds himself at the Roulette table would always fantasise about smacking everything he owns on the Green "00" and having it come up. It did happen a few times and these preceding cases are enough to make people try to make it happen again. The odds are impossibly low but there's no stopping these guys if they wanna try.

Actually, even after saying all this, I don't expect you to change your thinking about these bros whom just happen to get emotional on someting commercial, boss. I just hope that, if we have only detrimental remarks to make, we could just keep it to ourselves and not rub salt into the already-festering wounds. No sense kicking someone who is already down unless that gives you some kind of perverse pleasure in seeing others wallow in pain and regret.:(

[genzgenz]

long thread.. abit late to add my two cents worth (from a SB newbie? :) but think i still want to say something..


1. there's never black and white in any issues between two people. things get gray easily... the ability to pull out of even the very very pale gray condition (instead of misbelieving it to be white) is important.

2. one need to see the mode of operand of the girls. its very complex..


I am newbie here but i do have a fair bit of experience in the non paid domain of r/ship. One or two chinese gf as well (and she is getting higher pay than me now so money never been an issue, we are now just close 'thin line drawn' friends).

Still, been to many of the KTVs in Sg with business associates and wld like to add points here and there in an incoherent manner

- Let's not put the blame solely on the girl. She came to singapore for the money. She has her monetary obligation to the agent and whoever else for her stay in singapore. Her timing here is short.

- She has friends and roommates that are of the most extreme thinking (i.e. bang bang money mine and go). Even if she starts thinking in the romantic manner, people will tell her she is stupid and ask her to get as much money as she can.

- Its probably a new experience for her as well, making money in this manner. On one hand she thinks its easy to make money, on the other hand she gets touched by your attempts and get very confused.

- All in, a big mess!


The TS,

- Very emotional and romantic kind of person. As can see from his past relationship.

- Watched too much Pretty Woman.

- The first thing that did wrong, throwing money at the girl.

- Above point is what I have understood after so many weeks at dynasty. If you want the girls to be real, forget about throwing money. These girls are, like what many people have commented, 'real' people with feelings. Being caring is important. But once money comes in, it turn everyone's mood and desire upside down.

- The money spenders in the KTV (i.e. all the 1k/3k/5k flower banners) never really get the girls. Trust me. Those people go there to spend for fun and they can afford to. They target the singers and the glamorous ones but always get played on and pay more and more!

- Once you start using your 5digit sums to pressure the girl, it will turn everything haywire! It confuses her and it entices her too much. So best to keep money out.

- Still a big mess.


The TS has to think for himself. What's real and what's not.
Get money out of the talk. If it still works, fine. If not, just bail out.
The shellspan of these woman are short short 2 months in Sg. One go, more will come. Market getting bad in China and even lawyers are in Sg earning a living!

My friends that frequent KTV (have a regular room beside the girl gathering place booked for him almost permanently) have strict mood of operations. Can have girlfriends but never let money come in to play. The normal overnight or 1 shot money are standard but not any other money for 'winning' the woman's heart.

Learn to cut loss.

There are definitely more woman that fit her mold as the TS opens his eyes and see going ahead.

[jojogigi]

Boss, every guy who finds himself at the Roulette table would always fantasise about smacking everything he owns on the Green "00" and having it come up. It did happen a few times and these preceding cases are enough to make people try to make it happen again. The odds are impossibly low but there's no stopping these guys if they wanna try.


i have to correct you on this. No sensible guy would throw everything they own on the Green 00. I have not seen one yet as a roulette player myself. They will throw everything they have on Red/Black.
this is my proof
YouTube - Betting your whole life on one roulette spin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGCdBsOIKYA)

[colins]

A rolex:eek:.......Reminds of her again......In Feb 08 this, during the CNY period, my ex and I were having lunch in a Chinatown Restaurent during the weekday, sort of celebrating the festive mood, I realise she got a new Rolex on her wrist, I knew she will never buy such expensive items to wear......when I asked her who gave it to her....she blah blah blah - brought this 2nd hand from her jie mei.....blah blah blah....panicked and quickly take it out and put it back in her bag....etc. KNN some Taokay must have brought her the watch in exchange for sexual services......:(


Sorry to have reminded you on your bad memories. When I say rolex, I meant it figuratively. The real meaning is 'an expensive gift'. Its a slang I use to represent gifts from caitaos cos in many cases where I've seen, like yours as well, the girls really wanted the five matchsticks cos it is worth a lot of face in China.

[DTCEPL]

Sorry to have reminded you on your bad memories. When I say rolex, I meant it figuratively. The real meaning is 'an expensive gift'. Its a slang I use to represent gifts from caitaos cos in many cases where I've seen, like yours as well, the girls really wanted the five matchsticks cos it is worth a lot of face in China.

No prob Bro Colins.

Wow, didnt know that the five matchsticks worth alot of face in China...if so, I should borrow one from my frend before my trip to PRC to work, go there action abit, wait come back with only four sticks left, whahahahaha:D

FYI - My most expensive watch is a Casio:rolleyes:

[warbird]

"Originally Posted by sammyboyfor
PRC girls suck! Most of them have freakin brillo pads between their legs and the most grotesque armpit growth the world has ever know.

They also have awful bad breath caused by a combination of smoking and poor dental hygiene. I guess dental floss hasn't made it's appearance in most of China yet!"

How did I miss this most interesting n intellectually stimulating thread?:o

Kudos to Uncle Sammy n many esteemed senior bros here for the invigorating n colourful debates on a wide variety of topics. I hv gained useful insights...

IMHO, ALL of u are right in ur own way. It's neither good nor bad, but thinking makes it so. Furthermore, the way I see it, an action is either wise or unwise, depending on each bro's perspective.

However, I would like to comment on the image posted by Big Boss:

BTW, I hv a fetish for bushy pubic hair!:eek: Pls dun zap me as I can't control my urge. I always make sure it's washed very thoroughly w/ soap n water, haha. Therefore, I'm turned off not by her "Brillo pads," but by the ugly STRIAE in the upper thighs n around the hip areas which strongly suggest that either the woman is quite old, or she has had childbirth(s) or has had signficant wt loss, or probably all the above. Yes, I agree w/ Big Boss that she is most disgusting, but for very different reasons!!

Pls allow me to make one other point. Being a middle-aged ethnic Chinese, I find young n pretty Chinese gals (PRCs, Locals, Malaysians, Taiwanese...) irresistable, especially those who are 18-25, over 165 w/ natural B/C nei nei, a slim proportionate figure n a shapely, fleshy bun. Bad breath? It's repulsive! And, unfortunately, perhaps 30% of PRCS who come to SGP suffer from it. How did u know that, Boss? I always advise them to brush their teeth, use dental floss n tongue cleaner n gargle w/ Listerine TWICE daily. Quit smoking! Also see a qualified dentist every 6 months.:cool:

I know Big Boss detest PRCs, it's his poison. I respect that becos one man's meat is another...they just happen to be my meat. Wat to do?;)

Thx n hv a good day!

[Cheonging101]

i have to correct you on this. No sensible guy would throw everything they own on the Green 00. I have not seen one yet as a roulette player myself. They will throw everything they have on Red/Black.
this is my proof
YouTube - Betting your whole life on one roulette spin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGCdBsOIKYA)

Bro, I personally wouldn't dump all I have on 00, just like I won't get emotionally attached to a commercial fuck. I was talking about "fantasy". Guys who do these are basically detached from reality. But then, dreams sometimes do come true.:D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

just like I won't get emotionally attached to a commercial fuck. I was talking about "fantasy". Guys who do these are basically detached from reality. But then, dreams sometimes do come true.:D

Bro, what you say is basic knowledge to everyone the 1st day they walked into the realms of comm sex!
Fantasy???
No, i dun agree, it's very very real and are they really really detached from reality? U think?
I can appreciate your posting, but from someone who has been & still is in that situation, thanks to my number 4, it aint no dream...it's as real as it gets.
By your post, you've never been there, that's y i can understand where you're coming from.
Everyone who has never been there, will say things exactly like you, thus can be called stereotyped liao
But everyone who has been there, go read this section, which i know you have, will say otherwise and never phrase things the way you do.
Cheerios dude;)

[Cheonging101]

Bro, what you say is basic knowledge to everyone the 1st day they walked into the realms of comm sex!
Fantasy???
No, i dun agree, it's very very real and are they really really detached from reality? U think?
I can appreciate your posting, but from someone who has been & still is in that situation, thanks to my number 4, it aint no dream...it's as real as it gets.
By your post, you've never been there, that's y i can understand where you're coming from.
Everyone who has never been there, will say things exactly like you, thus can be called stereotyped liao
But everyone who has been there, go read this section, which i know you have, will say otherwise and never phrase things the way you do.
Cheerios dude;)

Thanks for the appreciation, bro. But, contrary to what you said, I was there. I grew a lot from there. Basically, I learnt to never have anything more than a plationic friendship on an emotional level with these working ladies. It's beneficial to us and them. I think you also stereotyped me already, bro.:p What I'm experiencing is the "back-to-basics" Zen-type of growth, not the "hone-my-skills" Tao-type of growth.:D

For some, it may escalate because they do not have this mentality and ended up for worse. But there is a very small percentage of bros who did end up happily ever after. That is why, I did say that dreams can come true. I don't know how many of us dream of marrying a lady who sells (or has sold) her body though...

[EtherC]

It's a slippery slope, once you believe in true love being possible with a WL there is the very high tendency that you'll start to believe love can overcome all odds and then the feeling of the relationship with the WL as true love overwhelms you. You feel there is a purpose to your life, that is to struggle against all odds and have a happy ending with the WL. Like what Bro Cheonging said its a fantasy. Overcoming the odds. Its pretty laughable because most people tend to give up as they can't beat themselves. End of the day the extremely strong Male Ego will be the most formidable enemy we face. So in a analogy it would be climbing out of a pit of quicksand totally exhausted and having to best a gladiator in armor.

Bro DYB case can be explained in the way that he is an alpha male. Females are drawn to powerful men. True love with the wife and all his mistresses? I don't know, only he and his ladies will know for sure. Genghis Khan bedded women in every country he raided and I have mentioned the amount of progeny he has. Its astounding because hes an astounding man of power. How many Genghis Khans are there? Do you think the hundreds/thousand women are all in love?

Sustained love and heat of the passion/lust are 2 different things altogether. I think not many of us can claim we know how to love or what love is unless we have been married 30 or 50 years and still holding the hand of our wife as we take a walk in the park or when you fall very ill and the wife still cares for you until the day you die and falls into depression as you leave this world behind. There are many reasons why people stay together: responsibility,character compatibility, financial stability, reliance etc.True love? Good for you if you manage to find it. Falling head over heels may be good but if you fall and crack your head on the pavement its kinda stupid.

[slider_72]

Falling head over heels may be good but if you fall and crack your head on the pavement its kinda stupid.

Hahaha. I like that statement.

[warbird]

It's a slippery slope, once you believe in true love being possible with a WL...

Bro DYB case can be explained in the way that he is an alpha male. Females are drawn to powerful men. True love with the wife and all his mistresses?Genghis Khan bedded women in every country he raided and I have mentioned the amount of progeny he has...Do you think the hundreds/thousand women are all in love?

Sustained love and heat of the passion/lust are 2 different things altogether. I think not many of us can claim we know how to love or what love is unless we have been married 30 or 50 years and still holding the hand of our wife as we take a walk in the park or when you fall very ill and the wife still cares for you until the day you die and falls into depression as you leave this world behind. There are many reasons why people stay together: responsibility,character compatibility, financial stability, reliance etc.True love?

Good post, bro EtherC.

I hv been musing about the mysterious n elusive emotion called 'true love" for a while...

Is there true love? I know there is "true love" for a parent, a child, a sibling, for one's country...

How about "true romantic love" between a woman n a man? Of course it exists at a particular moment in time, but often doesn't last forever.

Unfortunately, we all change n circumstances change which make this intense, romantic "true love" usually short-lived. There are rare exceptions n we won't know until a couple has lived under one roof for 60-70 yrs, until one party passes on. Can this "true love" withstand the vicissitudes of life? My answer is still yes, but it's very rare.

It's much tougher than u think. Let's say at age 22 u fall for a very pretty 20y.o. gal, marry her, hv a few kids, etc. Life is indeed great!

Time to fast forward...now she is 50, fat, ugly, sick, maybe even crippled n disfigured, bed-ridden, incontinent of urine/feces, etc. Would u still love her as intensely?

Let's also suppose u hv worked very hard n hv been very successful financially n ar now worth hundreds of millions. You're also a very healthy n virile 52 yo male. You see all those very pretty SYTs around u. Are u going to PCC for the rest of ur life or would u keep a few of those gals as ur mistresses? Be honest w/ ur self. Would u consider urself a heartless husband if u take good care of ur spouse, but at the same time, consort w/ other women?

Somtimes, it won't take 30 yrs. What if in only a couple of yrs, ur dream gal has a bad accident n her face is burnt beyond recognition? Oh yes, she is also crippled n can't even hv sex for the rest of her life. Yeah, u are only 24. Would u still love her as intensely for the rest of her life? And never, ever consort w/ any other women?

Wealthy n/or powerful men can get all the attractive women. IMHO n using my own definitions, Alpha Males belong to a different category. They also get gals becos they hv supreme self-confidence, sense of humour n intimate knowledge of female psychology n they r well-groomed n connect well w/ everyone. Additionally, they possess good emotional discipline. They r generally successful in life but need not be very wealthy or powerful.

How could thousands of women be truly in love w/ Genghis Khan? Most of them probably met him only once. In love? Perhaps w/ his power n wealth. If he became a POW, let's see how many women would be willing to die for him.

Bro DYB is wealthy n an Alpha Male. But does all his 4 "wives" truly love him? Perhaps at this point in time.

The fact that a gal is willing to hv a child w/ a man doesn't mean she is in love w/ him. Several PRCs r willing to bear my child for a fat fee.:D It's strictly business.

In the late 50's n early 60's, a business tycoon in SGP was rumoured to hv over 100 mistresses n over 100 kids. An elderly fren who knew him thinks the actual numbers were a bit less. It's a fact that he needed small buses to take them to various schools! And almost all of his kept women were non-WLS, which included a pair of educated sisters. Amazingly guy.:cool:
Just my 2 cents.

Thx for reading.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

But does all his 4 "wives" truly love him? Perhaps at this point in time.

Bro WarBird, well said.....
I've had these tots that you mentioned years ago when i 1st started out.....
Here's my take and RELIGIOUS PRACTICE on this issue.

1) I do not support them financially, thus i will open their doors to their own financial independence....thus ensuring NO FINANCIAL RELIANCE on me
I put this as number 1 cos i also believe many factors in life are money driven.

2) As mentioned, only number 1 is allowed to bear me kids, thus the rest are cursed not to have any...so if their female biological clock gets the calling, they will have 2 options
Namely, to see if this GOLDEN rule can be changed
or
Go find someone to marry LEGALLY this time and bear their much wanted egg.....condition...call me God Father......which again will be beneficial to their kids well being

3) With the independence they've obtained, financially and status, they can walk away anytime they wanna.....they've got personal investment brokers handling their portfolios and trust me, they can just walk out anytime they feel like it and just buy a seven digit condo or landed property and men, oh i've seen many, trying to get not only between their legs...but a piece of their cake...hahahahahaha

So for me bro, that's Y i always say, i am me, they're my wives......i have no reliance on them wat so ever.......without either of them, i'm still a flirt, without any of them, my neighbour's wife still always in danger hehehehe thus application of 是你的，就是你的。不是你的，不要抢！will apply.

I've always reminded myself, if one can give so many years of their youth to you & wanna retire into a quiet and peaceful place wherever it may be, i'll of cos feel sad, but they've earned that rite.......
Honest to god, i do see that day coming but i dun wanna guess who will be that one.......I am mentally prepared for it........but then again, how bad can it get? I've got number 4 who's beyond all logic, thus no one else can be as bad as her, so i think whatever comes what may, cant be worse.........

Thanks for those words...good wakeup call...but all necessary preparations have been done almost the day they walked into the family door.

[warbird]

Bro WarBird, well said.....
I've had these tots that you mentioned years ago when i 1st started out.....
Here's my take and RELIGIOUS PRACTICE on this issue.

1) I do not support them financially, thus i will open their doors to their own financial independence....

2) As mentioned, only number 1 is allowed to bear me kids, thus the rest are cursed not to have any...
3) With the independence they've obtained, financially and status, they can walk away anytime they wanna...

So for me bro, that's Y i always say, i am me, they're my wives......i have no reliance on them wat so ever.......without either of them, i'm still a flirt..

I've always reminded myself, if one can give so many years of their youth to you & wanna retire into a quiet and peaceful place wherever it may be, i'll of cos feel sad, but they've earned that rite...

...I am mentally prepared for it........but then again, how bad can it get? I've got number 4 who's beyond all logic, thus no one else can be as bad as her, so i think whatever comes what may, cant be worse...

Thanks for those words...good wakeup call...but all necessary preparations have been done almost the day they walked into the family door.

Hi bro, ur marital situaton is quite unique. You lucky man!

The answer to my question "but do (not does, sorry for the typo) all his 4 'wives' truly love him? " is a resounding YES, at least for now, IMHO.

But why dun u want more kids? U can afford them n SGP urgently needs them, haha.:cool:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro WarBird, you answers below:

Hi bro, ur marital situaton is quite unique. You lucky man!
Kumxia Kumxia but i had my tsunamis and tornadoes before i reached this point, so it aint like you just say & they all just kow tow....

The answer to my question "but do (not does, sorry for the typo) all his 4 'wives' truly love him? " is a resounding YES, at least for now, IMHO.
Well, 1st wife 14yrs, 2nd wife 11yrs, 3rd wife 3.5yrs, 4th wife, nabei come n go...that's Y pain in the ass hahahahaha. Remember my way of tot, always expect the worst, cos if it happens, it's expected....if it doesnt, then it'll always be a bonus!!! That's Y i dun live on 希望 and thus quite hard to get hurt emotionally.
These women, if you only knew them, are also not your typical gals, they also belong to, if there's an alpha female category, they belong there....so...guess this will explain tons already

But why dun u want more kids? U can afford them n SGP urgently needs them, haha.
To me, like i said many a times, it's due to respecting my 1st wife.....in this way, she'll also feel she will also have an edge over the rest..and that's her god given rite......also, if the others have kids, i wouldnt want a kid to grow up & take revenge on me for being a FUCKER who kept 3 women........also, think of the stigma they'll have to live wif whilst growing up, totally not fair for them shud they be born.

[virginboy]

Bro WarBird, you answers below:


But why dun u want more kids? U can afford them n SGP urgently needs them, haha.
To me, like i said many a times, it's due to respecting my 1st wife.....in this way, she'll also feel she will also have an edge over the rest..and that's her god given rite......also, if the others have kids, i wouldnt want a kid to grow up & take revenge on me for being a FUCKER who kept 3 women........also, think of the stigma they'll have to live wif whilst growing up, totally not fair for them shud they be born.

You must be bloody rich to feed 4 women at the same time ...4 LV bags, 4 rolex watches, 4 SK2, 4 spa memberships ..whew!

[DTCEPL]

You must be bloody rich to feed 4 women at the same time ...4 LV bags, 4 rolex watches, 4 SK2, 4 spa memberships ..whew!


He is richer then you can imagine:D:D:D....I can only afford 1/4 of a wife......whahahaha

[DO_YOU_BJ]

You must be bloody rich to feed 4 women at the same time ...4 LV bags, 4 rolex watches, 4 SK2, 4 spa memberships ..whew!

Sorry my friend, i dun feed them.
They're all professionals carry high profile high paying jobs drawing 5 figure salaries......i dun believe in free riders.
As for the branded stuff u mentioned, sorry, we dun practice a BRANDED lifestyle..brand conscious people are usually empty shells!
Confidence in an individual can outshine the most branded bloke on the block;)
Hell even if they did, they could bloody well afford them with their pay package:D

[warbird]

Sorry my friend, i dun feed them.
They're all professionals carry high profile high paying jobs drawing 5 figure salaries......i dun believe in free riders.
As for the branded stuff u mentioned, sorry, we dun practice a BRANDED lifestyle..brand conscious people are usually empty shells!
Confidence in an individual can outshine the most branded bloke on the block;)
Hell even if they did, they could bloody well afford them with their pay package:D

Bro DBJ,

I believe u hv enough KC experience equal to many life times', haha.:D Therefore I like to ask the following questions n hope u could share ur personal opinion.

1) Do u think a man can truly love (romantically, sexually n emotionally) more than one woman at a time? Equally or unequally?

2) As a corollary, do u think a woman can also truly love more than one man at once? Or is a woman so different physically n emotionally that this is not possible. Or could the reason be purely cultural?

Thx n hv a great day!

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro DBJ,

I believe u hv enough KC experience equal to many life times', haha.:D
No bro, me newbie and still learning in this dept

1) Do u think a man can truly love (romantically, sexually n emotionally) more than one woman at a time? Equally or unequally?
Yes, definately can, remember, becos of your genitalia, we're the giver, thus we always have the ability to give, thus collect if you know what i mean. Thus, women being receivers, will undoubtedly be disadvantaged by this all the time.
We can never treat them as equal...we can appear to be externally, but internally, for me, i have my fav of them all.

2) As a corollary, do u think a woman can also truly love more than one man at once? Or is a woman so different physically n emotionally that this is not possible. Or could the reason be purely cultural?
As above, it's definitely not cultural. Its more biologically biased.
And I do not personally believe they are able to actually truly love more than 1 at anytime.......cos when it comes to games of the heart, women tend to be more of an emotional being than us guys, thus also their greatest weakness.

[warbird]

Bro DYB,

We r all learning...but if u r a newbie, then me n most bros here r newborns, haha.

Your answers r candid n completely accurate, IMHO. You are, if u dun mind, a lady-killer, very dangerous to women.:D Pls dun take offense as I use the term as a compliment. I hv the time n a little money, but not enough emotional control to emulate u. I'm too soft-hearted, unfortunately.

Cheers!