Please be careful - Daylight Robbery [Archive] - Page 3

KatoeyLover69

17-01-2008, 01:55 AM

Report from Malaysiakini dated Wednesday 16 January 2008 :-

Food staples: No more take-aways for foreigners

Malaysia is planning to bar Singaporeans and Thais from taking home staple foods like flour and sugar to avert shortages of the subsidised goods, reports said today.

The move comes after the government was last week forced to flood the market with thousands of tonnes of cooking oil and flour as shortages left supermarket shelves stripped bare and restaurant owners warning they faced disruption.

"So far, we have enforced prohibition to bring cooking oil out of the country but I will suggest (to the cabinet) that other food items be included in the list," Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Minister Shafie Apdal said.

Shafie told the state Bernama news agency that the proposal would be submitted at Wednesday's cabinet meeting.

Singaporeans often make day trips across the causeway linking the island state to Malaysia to fill their petrol tanks and buy groceries which are cheaper here.

Smuggling of supplies of cooking oil, petrol and flour is also rife across Malaysia's porous northern border with Thailand.

Malaysia heavily subsidises 21 food items including sugar, milk, salt, wheat flour and rice.

Shafie said his ministry has checked close to 9,000 businesses nationwide to deter hoarding and smuggling of cooking oil.

He told Bernama the ministry had so far seized nearly 22,400 kilos of cooking oil worth RM58,000 during the operation.

Rising prices are a sensitive issue in Malaysia and the government has taken prompt action over the shortages ahead of general elections expected to be held this year.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

Sylar

17-01-2008, 08:49 AM

I am sorry but I just can't help laughing at the above comment in bold. :D

What has come to light is only the tip of the iceberg.

Sometimes even when the cases are uncovered, nothing much happens.

So, I sometimes believe not knowing is better than knowing.

Because when nothing is done, we just feel frustrated and impotent.

Ignorance is bliss.

U just echoed my opinion of him

RTplayer

17-01-2008, 10:37 AM

Only you decide which thread to stay, only you decide which thread to be moved.

I think this thread should be moved to coffeeshop la.....
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JeffKL

17-01-2008, 04:01 PM

You know something bro? Just look at all his post. In fact hes whinning more than us. Thats why I also dont want to waste my time replying ALL HIS POST. He kept praising sky high on Spore garment. Work and live in Msia but think he know so much about the plight of most middle and poor income singaporeans. I am not surprise his fam or relatives in spore work with the garment or holds key post in RC. All RC members sakar garment. All Yes Yes one. And I also not surprise he and his fam members are filthy rich. They dont mix with the lower class. Talk like as though hes Ministers son. Know so much about spore garment policy. Since he condemned his Msian govt so much, cant see why he cant migrate to spore (since his fam are sporean) and serve the garment. At least we are not hypocrites...looking forward to migrate.

My challenge is can anyone here tell me if a foreign talent replaces the job of a sporean, with equal duties, qualifications, how does the foreign policy benefits him/Spore??

Foreign tourists or with student pass allow to work in Spore in all sectors. In what way does the foreign policy benefits jobless man in the streets? Putting aside stereotype answers like sporean fussy about pay cos those middle/senior managerial post pays well. Any abnormal sporean under such an environment would not whin. Would you Msian bros not whinn under such circumstances???

again, again, xdecep, you never fail to impress us with your choice of selective reading. its no wonder u can continue your racous bleating here and none of ur fellow citizens want to take the bait to add in the conversation. ok, maybe only suchinda. but at least suchinda puts in slightly more effort.

i've said time and time again, just to refresh your failing memory and short-sightedness, then i'm neither Pro singapore or anti malaysia. at least suchinda gets that right from day 1.

again, i have to remind you not to label me in any way you deem fit. just as you deem it not courteous for me to throw profanities at your weak arguements. since you can't find anything to argue, you use your superb imagination and give me titles and families which i don't seem to recall having. although, i won't mind being a "White Horse" in the NS if i ever had the chance.:D

i don't know how less a hypocrite i am compared to you when i've already stated i'm saving $$ to migrate but u seem hell bent to preserve the ricebowls of ur diploma frens. n now u say u want to migrate too? as i said, u shud join WP or SDP or whatever tickles ur fancy.

as i already said, and u seem not to read properly, there's plenty of jobs in sg. unemployment rate is at an all time low! JOBSDB is coming this Fri 18th Jan. i checked the net recently to look for a job for my fren in KL and there are plenty of jobs whereby diploma holders are eligible to enlist. so what's ur problem xdecep? just becos ur fren lost a job to someone else, it's the end of the world? u want to blame the govt for that? man! you are one guy with little ambitions! do you know something called "look for another job?"

who cares about ur frens with diplomas? probably only u! so why don't u do yourself and everyone here a favour, quit ur job, and give ur job to your fren! be a hero! save the day! while you're at it, wear ur red underwear outside too to sure ur sincerity!

as far as ur weak arguements show, you've been the one giving all the stereotype answers and weak rebuttals. i've given you nothing less than a stellar economic report of 2 countries and qualified challenges to any singaporean who can prove me wrong. but sadly, no one did cos the truth hurts, doesn't it? hello brother, wake up ur idea man!

JeffKL

17-01-2008, 04:26 PM

Actually me very lazy but since you got so much to say then i humour you try to rebut you.....:rolleyes:

oh please, dun give me that holier than thou attitude. :rolleyes: especially when ur points don't seem to differentiate much between u and that cartoon hero wannabe. be a man and speak up.

Not everything is transparent in sg.....it only seems so. How much is sg PM's asset? GOD onli knows.....does the malaysian's PM wife holds the purse strings to the malaysian govt investment company? Badawi''s brother if any is he CEO of ex stat board? Badawi's father if still alive is also a senior minster bo? Sg govt is familee business.

gimme a break singaporean, do urself a favour and vote the lees out the next election. if i'm notn wrong hsien loong is MP for ang mo kio right? do urself a favour and vote him out there. if u still voted PAP, then u only got to slap urself and stop complaining about it.

as sylar already mentioned, badawi sister, eldest son, son in law and some other family members all have their hand in the pie. again, if u have not been catching up with malaysian politics, pls go google malaysia today and do some reading before u spout nonsense.

the fact that there is a scandal & this came to light says it all.....at least the judges in malaysia are more vocal......onli in sg the ex AG can become CJ.....no conflict of interests? Of course not! Our govt censor themselves.:rolleyes:

i'm sorry, again u are making things up as usual. pls don't degenerate to the level of that cartoon wannabe. the judges DID NOT speak up! the tape was initially submitted by Anwar, opposition leader. The judges aren't even talking about this issue cos when the shit hits the fan, all of them judges are implicated one way or the other.. get it? haha.. ex-AG can become CJ and u complaining? do u know kuchi rat msia lawyer also can fast track become Court of Appeal Judge? the 2nd highest court in malaysia? if u want to be judge, come malaysia. no need ex-AG, lawyer also can!

Thai king also constitutional la.....but he got moral authority. same for Agong, though he got limited power but at least he spoke up when he sees something wrong. IOur 3 mill prataman is a YES President.

haha. so what if our king spoke up? the appointment of the CJ still went thru! so what if the lawyers were marching in dec? our PM simply don't care, cos king have lost all his powers, unlike thai king. very simply, in case u singaporeans don't read much about malaysia, our PM just go to our king and say" look here king, if u still make noise, u can move out of ur cosy palace and sleep in the streets, cos I am the one who is paying for all ur expenses." kapish singaporean?

What's RM16 million? our PM wife can lose a million everyday SIN DOLLARS for a year & still keep her job 7 get pay rise. donated another few billions of our hard earned money away to buy manchester city football club.

lol, so what are u citizens doing about it? keep quiet as usual like a mouse? anyway, those cases i mentioned are just the tip of the iceberg as dathinman as said correctly. if were to start talking aobut govt losing our money, 3 posts also not enuff space.

Junichi will tell you, just because it did not happen to you doesn't mean it did not happen.....see previous rebut

lol, and i'm still waiting for scandals to happen. so far only NKF.. so boring.

you heard of Tay Cheang Wan?

Nope, but i sure did hear of Teh Cheang Wan. are you sure u're telling me the right name? it was in 81 and 82 when it happened. more than26 years ago! man, gimme a break, ever since there hasn't been anyone else, has it? u can keep silent on this one. i'm "quite" sure u can't dig up any more names.:rolleyes:

You are right.....take note western govt paid much lesser than sg govt. they can do a better job with lesser pay
again, pls qualify ur sweeping statements. facts and stats as xdecep wants it.

better govern? you want t police state? army camp also very well govern you go move in lor......better govern not = to better place to live in......
actually i dun understand what u trying to say here. ur country is police state? Police state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state) pls read carefully before telling us sg is police state.

everyone is whining here la......i am trying my best to make more money so i can get out of this place call singapore

finally, something that makes sense. let's just keep ur arguements to where u intend to migrate. we could compare notes. ur other points are making me laugh.

JeffKL

17-01-2008, 04:51 PM

I have asked myself:

Why do the minority races in Malaysia continue to live and stay in a country that discriminates against them, treats them as second class citizens, is not efficiently run, has a relatively higher crime-rate, provides jobs that do not pay as well, etc.? The list goes on and on and on and on...

Answer: They love being discriminated against? They love their country? Everything and everyone they have is in Malaysia? The fear of starting afresh somewhere else?

IMO, everyone should read "Who Took My Cheese" and try to live somewhere where they are appreciated. Singapore is just a few hours away.

I believe in the same context, u shud ask ur fellow singaporeans (the usual suspects) the same question too. if the GST increase and foreign talent is making u sick in the guts and ur fellow low income fellow have lost their jobs, shudnt they too start thinking of migrating?

answer: they love to pay higher gst and they don't mind foreign talent taking away their jobs?

fact is, we're all in the same quandary. as i mentioned earlier, migrating is not as simple as pack ur biggest bag and take the next plane ticket. u have to consider ur family, ur frens, the familiarity of ur surroudings. then again, when u want to move, u have to consider whether u have the $$ to sustain first 6 months to a year in the event u can't get a job overseas, or u might get retrenched, or higher living costs due to exchange rate between ur home country and place of living. comes back to the same starting point, 3 things any migrant has to have before taking off 1) guts 2) $$ 3) will to survive

pls dun muddle up the difference between "want to migrate" and "ability to migrate" you may want to buy a benz, but the fact is do u have the ability to do so? :p

your above points about loving to be discriminated and etc is somewhat rhetorical when u start asking the same questions to ur fellow singaporeans.

<<<SUCHINDA>>>

17-01-2008, 05:10 PM

JeffKL

17-01-2008, 05:12 PM

Ask him if Mahatir or Abdulah give concessions or special priviledges to their close family or friends, is it ok or not? Can they be forgiven? Lets see what he have to post. :rolleyes:

oh yes, mr singaporean, it is OK for them to do so. u know why, cos if the people u mentioned above are singaporeans, and they continue to give u good economic growth and first class facilities and no chewing gum, who cares?! every govt in this world is doing it! from Bush, to Blair to Howard to Thaksin to Suharto to Marcos.. that's why u become a PM! duh!

is it just me or you're telling everyone how ignorant u are? u think u became a PM to better the living standards of the country and NOT think about enriching ur own pockets? u think u are a Miss Universe contestant? "World Peace?" sheesh, wake up and smell the coffee.

the matter of the fact is, and i've already stated earlier, every govt in this world is corrupt! fullstop! do u not understand the above sentence? just the diff of how much or how less. and i strongly believe that if the govt is somewhat corrupt but STILL lets the citizens have high economic growth, low crime and first class facilities like SG, i seriously doubt there's much complaints there. didn't we already agree there is no perfect govt? sheesh.

the only problem in msia here is the other way round. corruption at its highest, but the economy and standard of living have dropped drastically. can u even fathom the difference? remove that prejudiced stance of urs and read the above post objectively. the same goes for ur new "partner in crime".

and i'm being labelled a Pro singaporean by stating facts. oh yes, i'm looking forward to more retarded posts about the same merry go round "foregn talent" question..

JeffKL

17-01-2008, 05:33 PM

bro JeffKL....you made your point......we can argue until cows come home & maybe i dun know the situation well in malaysia but let me just say i know the situation in singapore well & my point is that the singapore govt is as bad as malaysian govt if not worse. Maybe sinkees are more stupid them pappies can continue to hookwink us every single elections. For the record i am not the 66.6% who voted for them....i din get a chance to vote due to walkover (common occurrance here due to unfair electoral practice).
Maybe it is a case of the grass is greener on the other side but i have lived & worked in malaysia b4 for 2 years previously & another 3 years before that was travelling up often. I always have a more positive impression of malaysia & till now still feel that malaysia is a better place than singapore. :)

Lol, man, RESPECT! I'll buy u a cold beer if u drop by JB anytime.

Unfortunately, i can understand sg govt plays alot of "dirty" tactics when it comes to voting cos most of my frens are in ur situation, never get the chance to vote even though they are 40 years old! but then again, u can hardly blame the rest of 66.6% becos as they say, "if the ride is smooth sailing, no need to rock the boat".

fortunately, sg economy is doing well and majority of the citizens are somewhat living an above average standard of living. want to know how i came to that assumption, look at the crowd during ur sales. i was at sg robinsons last month, only 20% discount storewide?! wtf? and the crowd was like seas of shoppers. come to kl during the chirstmas, we have sales up to 70% but hey, no one's buying anything. :D the economy in msia is getting so bad, we're getting more sales periods than non-sales periods.. want a sale? wait no longer, there's one every other month. and people are still not buying.

its the same wif all govt in the world trying to establish a lasting legacy for themselves while they make hay while the sun is out, or rather when they are in power. but don't be disappointed. sg like u n msian like me are entering the internet age and we can start to think for ourselves and demonstrate our right for democracy. already there are so many internet blogging sites slagging off the sg govt. same goes here in msia. on a side note, it will be interesting to see who will succeed hsien long.

the general sentiment here is that we're all bracing for more price hikes which is a reality as oil has shot to more than USD100/barrel. it is an open secret that the govt is suppressing all price hikes till after the elections which is due this yr. perhaps we shall compare our costs of living and standards of living again once the elections are over. :D

pls pray that my salary will increase in tandem with the price hikes, or i might not be able to buy u that cold beer after the elections. i hear sg F1 ticket prices are USD 200 a pop, any one wants to sponsor a poor JB guy?

JeffKL

17-01-2008, 05:50 PM

I have asked my sg frens and they too do tend to agree that malaysia seems to be a better place to live in.

i've analysed their spending habits and found the following:

1) they sub-consiously convert their spending in msia and magically! everything is cheaper by half than back home. woo hoo! i'm a king in malaysia!by the same arguement, my msia frens would agree with me that we find thailand a better place to live in than msia. :p

2) they get to rev their powerful 2 litre cars and be speed demons on our highways. no way hosea u can do that in sg and get away with a "encik, macam mana u nak settle?"

3) they get to litter and eat chewing gum and dun have to look behind their backs in case kenna CWO.

4) everything in msia seems to have a price. everything can be done with a price. from drugs to guns to girls to porn dvds. u name it, we got it. and the plus side is, singaporeans still find it affordable cos all "prices" are half compared to back home. back in the old days when LSB in jb was happening, my sg frens used to come in weekly.

5) more spending power, as prof says, of course means u can swagger around more lah. go to the nightclub also can talk much louder than the other table cos table got 1 bottle magnum mah. and snigger at the low living standards of malaysians (drive heavily mod crap local made cars). seriously, although i have sg frens, i have met alot of sg tourists who seem to like to show off their money. want to see show off singaporeans in jb? look no further, just hang out at Plaza DNP and see all the young chicks flock to their honey pot. but yet, that does not make me generalise that all sg are like these cos i've got really cool sg frens.

i think we're all guilty of the above one way or the other when we go to a country with lower living standard or lower exchange rate. me included. i guess it's human nature.

JeffKL

17-01-2008, 06:15 PM

LOL. u guys even want to start complaining about Ho Ching? at least she's doing a good job, albeit, all biz do tend to lose money once in a while.

Temasek Holdings is an Asia investment company owned by the government of Singapore.With a multinational staff of more than 300 people, it manages a portfolio of over S$160 billion, or more than US$110 billion, focused primarily in Asia.
Source- Temasek Holdings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temasek_Holdings)

Now, let's look at Malaysia's investment arm. Compare apple with apple right?

Khazanah Nasional Berhad is the investment holding arm of the Government of Malaysia entrusted to hold and manage the commercial assets of the government and to undertake strategic investments. Khazanah has stakes in more than 50 companies with assets valued in excess of US$20 billion.
Source -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danaharta

I don't even need to comment further, the writing's on the wall.

Xdecepticon

17-01-2008, 06:39 PM

is it just me or you're telling everyone how ignorant u are?

Sure. you remind me of those smart alac telling everyone you are the only knowledgeable Msian who know spore economy far more than any typical sporean who work and STAY in Spore itself. :rolleyes: Dont see any other msian bros doing that except Mr know all "Msian" alac like you.

and i'm being labelled a Pro singaporean by stating facts. oh yes, i'm looking forward to more retarded posts about the same merry go round "foregn talent" question..

I didnt know question on "foreign talent" issue is a retarded post? Simply cos you are unable to tell me whether it benefits the unemployed and systematically replacing most Sporean jobs with "foreigners" and you regarded my question a retarded post? Your stance is no diff fm some of our ministers standard way of replying except that you not a Minister but talked like one. :rolleyes: That really confirm my suspicions you belong to those filthy rich, holding a managerial post and having links to RC (Resident Committee) who know nuts about most ordinarily singaporean plight as far as bread and butter issue is concerned.

Xdecepticon

17-01-2008, 06:41 PM

I have asked my sg frens and they too do tend to agree that malaysia seems to be a better place to live in.

Need I say more. :rolleyes: That shows how ignorant you are.

sex crusader

17-01-2008, 07:22 PM

jUST PASSING BY.............very 'heat' here.Don't know to go geylang or go LSB in Jb to 'Tao liang".:D

Sylar

17-01-2008, 07:49 PM

Something to share

Negative- Positive by Patrick Teoh
Posted by labisman
Saturday, 12 January 2008

This morning I had a conversation with this acquaintance. He is a successful businessman. A dato, a card carrying member of the MCA but not an active politician. Nice guy.

But what he said got me quite pissed off at first and then it set me thinking about things in my country; how they are, how they should be, how they could have been. Okay this is how it started. As always.

He insisted that I was such a negative person when it comes to things about Malaysia. He suggested that I should change my attitude. Fair words I guess. I can't argue with that surely. So what pissed me off?

Personally I get pissed off when people assume that I am negative about things just for the sake of being negative and that I don't do anything about it. In other words that I don't "walk the talk"
Okay, to counter my negative attitude toward things in Malaysia he invited me to attend an event to meet other 'concerned' Malaysians to talk about how we can make the difference. Okay nothing wrong with that either.

Then he said that he could get some Chinese business person to give talks on how they, even being Chinese, had been able to benefit from government sponsored programmes and get government loans for business and this and that.

He also said that there were educationists who were going to speak to dispel notions I had about the quality of education that my children would receive in Malaysia's education system.

Then he went on about how wonderful things are and that people should not focus on the negatives. Otherwise there will be 'trouble'.

When he told me about the Chinese business person being able to get government loans etc. and that our children and grandchildren can and do get quality education which will equip them for the increasingly competitive future I stopped listening and began thinking to myself.

Here is a typical Malaysian. Chinese (but he could be Malay or Indian or Lain-lain). Fairly successful. Fairly well-off by any standards. Involved with charity work. Giving back to the community. Good man. But in my opinion his thinking is flawed. Why?

He is thinking like an 'orang pendatang'. Sure, Malaysia is a wonderful country. Can make money here. Life is not too tough. There are no calamities. The food is good. Keep my mouth shut. Do some charity work. Life can be good. Very good.

Listen, Dato. We know that already. Nobody is arguing about the fact that Malaysia is a paradise and that is why we are willing to fight to defend it. Against what? Against bad administrators. Bad managers who, if left un-checked will bring our little paradise to ruin.

I believe that every true Malaysian, be he Malay, Chinese, Indian or any of our dozens of ethnic diversity, knows that Malaysia belongs to all Malaysians. And that to truly succeed in becoming a credible and respected player on the global stage we must all work together. Pull together in the same direction.

And now, Dato here it is my negativity stems from the almost laughable way the administration has been handling their duties as elected managers of Malaysia.

They are the ones who tell us to unite as one nation, one people. But they are also the ones who divide with religion, race and culture. Claiming that it needs to be done to protect the 'sensitivities' of one race. And as we have witnessed time and again over the past couple of years this administration has taken on an air of arrogance that is now manifesting itself in its strong-arm, high-handed methods in resolving any issues that it deems irritating. I need not name incidents here for fear of treading on the sensitivities of so-and-so and this-and-that la.

Its recent handling of events like walks, marches, demonstrations shows its total non-understanding of what is happening on the ground, the Rakyat. Or perhaps they do understand and it is their way of showing us that they are the ones who wield the REAL power. Cannon, tear gas, ISA etc.

Come la. Like that Nazri clown said on the Al-Jazeera interview the rule is "if you can call 40,000 I can call 1 million". Remember that boast? But then that's stating the obvious la. Anyway, I digress. Sorry. Or perhaps they are really desperate. They see what's coming and don't know how to deal with it. They are scared shitless. They finally realise that the people, the rakyat DO care and CAN make a difference and ARE prepared to speak out for their rights. Something we haven't done for a long time so perhaps the BN flers have been lulled into a false sense of security and the wake-up call had altogether been too sudden and too unexpected.

Negative? Sure I am. I am negative about how I am being treated in my own country.

I am negative about people who tell me to be positive but send their children to schools and colleges abroad.

I am negative about people who tell me that it is wonderful to live here whatever is happening and then sign a check to pay for their mortgage for that house in Perth, Australia.

I am negative about people who claim that they love Malaysia but also treasure their permanent residence status in another country. Just in case you know.

I am a Malaysian. I will live and I will die here. I have a stake in this country for my children and their children's children. Yeah. So fuck you! I will be as negative as I want to be. This is my country.

The_Unrepentant

17-01-2008, 08:34 PM

the matter of the fact is, and i've already stated earlier, every govt in this world is corrupt! fullstop! .

Totally agree! corrupt or not is not my problem . as long as i got bread on table, the govt is good. don care is white or black cat.:D

The_Unrepentant

17-01-2008, 08:39 PM

I don't even need to comment further, the writing's on the wall.

agree! lose money never mind. but must earn back.

The_Unrepentant

17-01-2008, 08:46 PM

abt the foregin talent crap, it is better they come here than go elsewhere like malaysia as we will suffer even more in the end. one way or another we will face competition.

I believe in meritocracy. don care is malay, chinese indian, prc or bangla. the capable ones should do the job. If not how else are we diff frm the malaysian gov whereby only malays can hold important position?

Xdecepticon

17-01-2008, 09:13 PM

again, again, xdecep, you never fail to impress us with your choice of selective reading. its no wonder u can continue your racous bleating here and none of ur fellow citizens want to take the bait to add in the conversation. ok, maybe only suchinda. but at least suchinda puts in slightly more effort.

I only emphasize on foreign talents issue. There are also many other issues but still manageable. Thats why I did not discuss here. I rather not waste bandwidth to discuss non-important issue like Cat 40 bonk and baby bonus.:rolleyes:

then i'm neither Pro singapore or anti malaysia. at least suchinda gets that right from day 1.

I am saying you post nothing but praising sky high on Spore garment...like as though the latter is flawless.

again, i have to remind you not to label me in any way you deem fit. just as you deem it not courteous for me to throw profanities at your weak arguements.

Well, there were also some postings of yours which I also dont deem fit that you should throw at me too. Ok, my mistake there. Will take note of that in future...which I doubt so.

i don't know how less a hypocrite i am compared to you when i've already stated i'm saving $$ to migrate but u seem hell bent to preserve the ricebowls of ur diploma frens. n now u say u want to migrate too? as i said, u shud join WP or SDP or whatever tickles ur fancy.

Problem with you is that you ALWAY like to jump to conclusion. Just like all of your previous post. I am not just voicing out my diploma frens plight. At the rate this "foreign talent" policy is going, it definitely will affect future generations to come. We are talking about our children future. Have you consider that Mr know all? Now I am asking you how would you feel if you are in my frens position? Sure, your answer would be blah blah blah, go vote for other parties rite? Not all Sporean are like you when come to voting. Big head rules over over hearts. Theres simply no existing political parties that could match our present garment in terms of experience, maturity. As to your decision to vote your opposition parties be it DAP, MIC OR EVEN PAS, I have no comment. I have hopes for Msia and migrating there is always in my card.

as i already said, and u seem not to read properly, there's plenty of jobs in sg. unemployment rate is at an all time low! JOBSDB is coming this Fri 18th Jan. i checked the net recently to look for a job for my fren in KL and there are plenty of jobs whereby diploma holders are eligible to enlist. so what's ur problem xdecep? just becos ur fren lost a job to someone else, it's the end of the world? u want to blame the govt for that? man! you are one guy with little ambitions! do you know something called "look for another job?"

Again. Teaching a croc how to swim or should I say teaching sporean where to look for girls to bonk. Since when did I say unemployment rate is at all time high! If you carry on putting words in my mouth, then theres nothing to discuss again in future. Sheesh.

JOBSDB at Suntec City? Sure. Like I always say (refer to my previous post which I keep saying jobs are abundant in Spore) most of the employers would rather employ foreigners than Sporean with the blessing of the garment of course. Why priorities to the foreigners? You ask my garment which I doubt you dont know the answer. Talk about job placement. In case you are blinded by the big advertisment on job vacancies, do you know (besides govt agencies) most of booth were manned by Head hunters, manpower services? No prize given if you get the answer right as to who the latter would rather pick their candidates.

who cares about ur frens with diplomas? probably only u!

This type of answer I get. Arrogant attitude. Just like some of our Ministers. Lets not waste time discussing.

so why don't u do yourself and everyone here a favour, quit ur job, and give ur job to your fren! be a hero! save the day! while you're at it, wear ur red underwear outside too to sure ur sincerity!

Hm..you are the only Msian guy I have problem with incase you are blind and ignorant. Just refer to all the posting here. I got no problem with any other Msian bros here. I even praised Mr Professor.

One of your Msian guys upped me. What does that shows? Sympathetic or otherwise, points aside cos most of my Msian frens in Msia or working here all understand the plight we are facing. Except you. Thats why I said no use to carry on our discussion .

as far as ur weak arguements show, you've been the one giving all the stereotype answers and weak rebuttals. i've given you nothing less than a stellar economic report of 2 countries and qualified challenges to any singaporean who can prove me wrong. but sadly, no one did cos the truth hurts, doesn't it? hello brother, wake up ur idea man!

Unlike you at least I care for my unfortunate frens who were retrenched, who had hard time looking for job past 7 mths, at least I help my fellow workpermit Msian workers/frens be it skill/unskill jobs. At least I am not selfish. I cheong with msian frens, eat with them and work with them. They are in a better position to know the many sporean plights much better than you.

Ya. Big deal! Posting some economic link and brag here and there! Look, smart alac. Dont keep repeating your achievement here. Anyone can just copy paste. I cant be bothered. This my 3rd time I repeat again. I know nuts about economic data. Like I alway said, why dont you do everyone a favour here by consulting an optician?

Jobs aplenty. So what? As usual, most given to foreign talents. I did not side track and I always stay focus and my issue has always been on foreign talent. YOu are the one who cant provide answers. Already posted here some of real life experience which Sporean are experiencing. But you keep evading the real issue.

Nobody is challenging which countries in terms of economic progress is better. But the truth is, unlike Msia, most professional jobs in spore are given to foreigner including student pass (what have you to say on this? Blah blah blah other countries also practise such what...thats your standard reply I suppose.) Mingle with people fm all walks of life, than you will know whats really happening here. Not in Jb or Kl. Hello "soldier", wake up your idea, "sporean"!

Xdecepticon

17-01-2008, 09:28 PM

abt the foregin talent crap, it is better they come here than go elsewhere like malaysia as we will suffer even more in the end. one way or another we will face competition.

Bro, the foreign talent crap if replace jobs which sporean rejected, if unable to find any suitable sporean canditate, I say BY ALL MEANS THEY ARE WELCOME HERE IN SPORE. But I see most of the jobs taken up by these so-called foreign talent can be easily filled by qualified sporean. Now, I hope you not like our Mr know all, who would not hesitate to say maybe sporean are fussy. Thats why given to foreign talent. Of course if you are a sporean, we all also know why the garment introduce such a policy. You aware now garment also encouraging employer to employ foreigner on student pass too? Tourist on vacation also can look for jobs in spore too. Are you aware, bro? So you tell us especially in this particular area, how does this policy talent policy help those qualified but retrenched and unemployed? Tell me, a sporean, drawing a mthly pay $2000. Hardly can make ends meet rite? No jobs, can we set up a stall in spore? No rite. At least in Msian, jobless Msian could do that, in the open some more.

I believe in meritocracy. don care is malay, chinese indian, prc or bangla. the capable ones should do the job. If not how else are we diff frm the malaysian gov whereby only malays can hold important position?

Agree...only capables one. But frankly, if you the boss, would you employ a sporean and pay him$2k or you rather employ a filipino or PRC by paying him $1.2K, both equally qualified in terms of experience??

Joseph81

18-01-2008, 08:55 AM

Radzi: Papa has no choice but to accept government scheme

PETALING JAYA: The Malaysian Association of Foreign Housemaids Agencies (Papa) has no choice but to accept the government-backed insurance scheme for foreign maids.

Home Minister Datuk Seri Radzi Sheikh Ahmad said the new government-proposed insurance was a “good scheme” and will be worth the money.

He said the scheme was a government policy that must be obeyed by employers.

“Papa has to accept the scheme,” he said.

On Wednesday, Razdi announced the Government’s insurance coverage. The annual RM75 insurance coverage to be administered by a government-linked company will cover accidents, death and healthcare.

Radzi said Papa should wait for the more details of the scheme, to be announced at the end of the month, before making objections.

“Our policy is that if you are here as a legal (foreign) maid, you are insured. We are the party that will control this,” he added.

But Papa said that it would not support the government-backed insurance scheme because it was expensive and monopolistic.

It president Datuk Raja Zulkepley Dahalan said the association would support any insurance scheme that could provide better coverage and have lower premium but not the one proposed by the Government.

“We also oppose any form of monopoly of housemaids’ insurance in Malaysia,” he said.

He said the proposal introduced by Papa was only RM48 a year and RM75 for two years, but the government’s scheme costs RM75 a year.

The Papa-proposed insurance scheme is underwritten by a consortium consisting of Takaful Amanah HSBC Bhd, Takaful Ikhlas Bhd, Allianz General Insurance Company (Malaysia) Bhd and Jerneh Insurance Bhd.

After reading this piece of news, I got so pissed, who said singapore govt is as bad as malaysian govt if not worse?

After the Formena, now this, though I don't know much about Singapore policy, please enlighten me on this

Does Singapore implement policy like this, in Malaysia we do.

- maids to undergo medical checkup thro FORMENA (own by ex PM's daughter)
- Soon the above news mentioned
- Toll concessionaire, to increase the charges after certain years even though the company is making money. If the company is making a loss, government will compensate the company
- Eyes of Malaysia, the company will compensate any losses incurred to the operating company for the ticket sales loss
- additional Medical checkup for transport driver (Deffered for now as too many protest, maybe due to coming election)
- Monopolized the selling of rice (Bernas)

Maybe I missed out a few, anyone care to add?

Joseph81

18-01-2008, 09:15 AM

I only emphasize on foreign talents issue. There are also many other issues but still manageable. Thats why I did not discuss here. I rather not waste bandwidth to discuss non-important issue like Cat 40 bonk and baby bonus.:rolleyes:

I am saying you post nothing but praising sky high on Spore garment...like as though the latter is flawless.

Well, there were also some postings of yours which I also dont deem fit that you should throw at me too. Ok, my mistake there. Will take note of that in future...which I doubt so.

Problem with you is that you ALWAY like to jump to conclusion. Just like all of your previous post. I am not just voicing out my diploma frens plight. At the rate this "foreign talent" policy is going, it definitely will affect future generations to come. We are talking about our children future. Have you consider that Mr know all? Now I am asking you how would you feel if you are in my frens position? Sure, your answer would be blah blah blah, go vote for other parties rite? Not all Sporean are like you when come to voting. Big head rules over over hearts. Theres simply no existing political parties that could match our present garment in terms of experience, maturity. As to your decision to vote your opposition parties be it DAP, MIC OR EVEN PAS, I have no comment. I have hopes for Msia and migrating there is always in my card.

Again. Teaching a croc how to swim or should I say teaching sporean where to look for girls to bonk. Since when did I say unemployment rate is at all time high! If you carry on putting words in my mouth, then theres nothing to discuss again in future. Sheesh.

JOBSDB at Suntec City? Sure. Like I always say (refer to my previous post which I keep saying jobs are abundant in Spore) most of the employers would rather employ foreigners than Sporean with the blessing of the garment of course. Why priorities to the foreigners? You ask my garment which I doubt you dont know the answer. Talk about job placement. In case you are blinded by the big advertisment on job vacancies, do you know (besides govt agencies) most of booth were manned by Head hunters, manpower services? No prize given if you get the answer right as to who the latter would rather pick their candidates.

This type of answer I get. Arrogant attitude. Just like some of our Ministers. Lets not waste time discussing.

Hm..you are the only Msian guy I have problem with incase you are blind and ignorant. Just refer to all the posting here. I got no problem with any other Msian bros here. I even praised Mr Professor.

One of your Msian guys upped me. What does that shows? Sympathetic or otherwise, points aside cos most of my Msian frens in Msia or working here all understand the plight we are facing. Except you. Thats why I said no use to carry on our discussion .

Unlike you at least I care for my unfortunate frens who were retrenched, who had hard time looking for job past 7 mths, at least I help my fellow workpermit Msian workers/frens be it skill/unskill jobs. At least I am not selfish. I cheong with msian frens, eat with them and work with them. They are in a better position to know the many sporean plights much better than you.

Ya. Big deal! Posting some economic link and brag here and there! Look, smart alac. Dont keep repeating your achievement here. Anyone can just copy paste. I cant be bothered. This my 3rd time I repeat again. I know nuts about economic data. Like I alway said, why dont you do everyone a favour here by consulting an optician?

Jobs aplenty. So what? As usual, most given to foreign talents. I did not side track and I always stay focus and my issue has always been on foreign talent. YOu are the one who cant provide answers. Already posted here some of real life experience which Sporean are experiencing. But you keep evading the real issue.

Nobody is challenging which countries in terms of economic progress is better. But the truth is, unlike Msia, most professional jobs in spore are given to foreigner including student pass (what have you to say on this? Blah blah blah other countries also practise such what...thats your standard reply I suppose.) Mingle with people fm all walks of life, than you will know whats really happening here. Not in Jb or Kl. Hello "soldier", wake up your idea, "sporean"!

I think u r a disgrace to Singapore, maybe I was wrong assuming u r a Singaporean Chinese, the way u wrote sounds more like Malaysia Malay who always wishes for money to fall from the sky and guess what, it did on Malaysian sky but only selected few can get a share on that. No wonder u r constantly praising our government, I hope from now on, we can cease this disscussion as we have finally understand from ur point of view.

As far as I know everyone in Singapore need to work hard to make a living while helping the country to grow, alas Singapore has made impressive progress in the region over the years unlike Malaysia. Almost every year when the report card came out for the country from International bodies, ranging from crime rate, human rights, education.....etc, our government will be quick to deny the accuracy of the report, obviously they have their own mean of measurement, which explains why we are lagging behind many countries that was behind us previously.

Last but not least, if Singapore is much worst than Malaysia, I think this thread should change its name to "Please be careful - Daylight Robbery in Singapore"

localhunter

18-01-2008, 09:36 AM

Is this a friendly debate? Or a war? Well, i suggest la that you should drop this debate. After read all your post, i don't see the point of arguing. It doesnt matter who are the best, as long as we live happily and satisfy with what we are and who we are. Singapore or Malaysia, both also great country. The most important is --> we live under ASEAN and we're neighbor and FRIEND !

CHEERS !! :D

Orgasmic

18-01-2008, 09:36 AM

I was driving into JB for business at 6am in the morning this morning - a weekday.

Totally no jam at all towards JB side at 6am and I can tell u that 99% of Singaporean workers in Singapore are probably still sleeping. Even Singapore custom office, a Malay boy was sleeping so peacefully at his seat ( check fuel guage area ) that I dint want to disturb him but drove past him quietly.

At the causeway, thousands of motorists were honking incessantly and blaring headlights, literally jamming up every nook and canny of the Causeway. Lorries, cars, esp motorbikes jammed up the entire causeway towards Singapore.

Towards Malaysia on the same causeway, about 1-2 cars.

Can these 300,000 motorists coming into Singapore to work be WRONG?

It is easy to say that living in Malaysia is better than living in Singapore but if u havent noticed, these are those who actually earn Singapore dollars. Those who earn Ringgit can hardly get by.

I may not like to stay in Singapore but staying in Malaysia is definitely out. I have seen for myself the obvious race discrimination and serious corruption from education to transport. Not that i dont like corruption but it must still keep the country running. Malaysia corruption is too serious and harmful to the economy and social beings.

Indonesian malay robbers caught for robbery, car jacking, rapes, snatch thieves etc by the public-spirited Chinese and Indian... beaten up ... and handed over to the Malay polis today.. The malay polis drive these robbers back to Station only to RELEASE them on the spot and the next week, the same robbers come back to rob and rape.

Many guys dont know that what the media has been reporting on Malaysia is not only true but they have tried to contain the seriousness already. The crime problem is extremely serious that thousands of petrol stations throughout Malaysia has been robbed AT LEAST once a year. Compare that with Singapore. Who dares to rob petrol stations here??? I pump diesel in Singapore at 4am regularly and i dont feel a threat to my security AT ALL.

I pump petrol in Johor anytime, I look around for people waiting to HAMMER me from behind.. I literally look up, left and right through the ordeal or pumping petrol even though it was supposed to be leisurely.

Even if you dont like Singapore ( like me ), let me, a resident of JB and Singapore educate u that JB is definitely not the answer to you if u decide to evict from Singapore.

Joseph81

18-01-2008, 10:22 AM

Bloody Malaysia Government

Mahathir: The truth is, I can do whatever I want, whenever I want « BothSidesOfTheJohorStraits (http://blueheeler.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/mahathir-the-truth-is-i-can-do-whatever-i-want-whenever-i-want/)

localhunter

18-01-2008, 06:30 PM

*Commercial break*

Youth arrested for sodomising friend

By BERNARD SEE

PENANG: A youth was arrested for allegedly sodomising his friend while giving him a massage at an apartment in Sungai Nibong here.

George Town OCPD Asst Comm Azam Abd Hamid said the duo, aged 18 and 20, had gone out for dinner before going to the older youth's apartment at about 10pm on Thursday.

"While in the house, the youth decided to give his friend a naked body massage. He then proceeded to sodomise the latter before allowing him to leave.

"A report was subsequently lodged at a nearby police staion. The suspect was arrested several hours later," he said Friday when met at his office.

ACP Azam said the case has been classified as carnal intercourse against the order of nature under Section 377C of the Penal Code which carries a jail term of up to 20 years.

"We have already sent the victim to the Penang Hospital for a check up."

dathinman

18-01-2008, 06:49 PM

dathinman

18-01-2008, 07:35 PM

<snipped>
Can these 300,000 motorists coming into Singapore to work be WRONG?
<snippe>

How about the hundreds of thousands of qualified Malaysians who can find work elsewhere in the global economy but still choose to stay in Malaysia, can they be wrong? :D

You get my point? Stop using anecdotal data and then extrapolating to make wide sweeping conclusions.

Besides that, you always use JB to compare with Singapore. JB is well known as a cowboy town. There are far nicer and safer places to live in Malaysia. JB isn't representative of how the entire Malaysia is like. Just like Geylang isn't representative of the entire Singapore. :D

You also keep harping that those having a good life in Malaysia are those earning Singapore dollars. Again, this myopic view is focused on JB.
Have you even considered the many middle-class families elsewhere in Malaysia that are having a pretty ok life? They sure as hell don't earn S$ salaries.

The_Unrepentant

18-01-2008, 09:05 PM

Tell me, a sporean, drawing a mthly pay $2000. Hardly can make ends meet rite? No jobs, can we set up a stall in spore? No rite. At least in Msian, jobless Msian could do that, in the open some more.

Agree...only capables one. But frankly, if you the boss, would you employ a sporean and pay him$2k or you rather employ a filipino or PRC by paying him $1.2K, both equally qualified in terms of experience??

of course the cheaper one lol. tat y we must be more enthu to learn new things. make urself more valuable. I see many relatively lazy singaporen around. the capable ones migrate. stopping the foreign talents cannot and will not help singapore in the long run.

Whether singapore or malaysia or any country is better depends on where u stand in the society. there is no one and only answer. Malaysia may suit u more but singapore definitely is better for me at the moment but it may change in the future.

Rise and fall of singapore? don know when we will fall.

ps :yes malaysia take care of its citizen much more than singapore. but r u a malay ?:rolleyes:

The_Unrepentant

18-01-2008, 09:16 PM

Xdecepticon

18-01-2008, 09:32 PM

Whether singapore or malaysia or any country is better depends on where u stand in the society. there is no one and only answer. Malaysia may suit u more but singapore definitely is better for me at the moment but it may change in the future.

You are right only at certain point. Had you been jobless for several mths, junks of letters/emails but still got rejected, I doubt you would say Spore better place now than Msia. Msia only suit me much more if not for those crimes. And yes, their present garment need to be revamped. Both sucks!!(my post 453)

[QUOTE=The_Unrepentant;2531407ps :yes malaysia take care of its citizen much more than singapore. but r u a malay ?:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Actually I am quite tired of answering such stereotype question. But since you a Sporean, just this once i will entertain you such question. I have a combination of Chinese/Malay/Indian friends. I am a peranakan born, thats why I no problem speaking Malay. If you bother to go thru my past postings (Balai or Batam thread), you would realize I advise Bro DNAT not to call the Chinese, CINA. He should address we Chinese as Orang Tiong Hua. "Cina" sounds rather crude to me, imo. So, how now? Do PM Senior Bro DNAT to clarify it. So am I championing the race of Chinese or malay when I say we should be addressed as orang Tiong Hua rather than Cina? Should I show you my IC to prove otherwise.:rolleyes: Anyway this is cyber. Just that I dont want to be a hypocrite. Just wondering why suddently issue of race come about. Thought its about bread and butter issue. :rolleyes:

Xdecepticon

18-01-2008, 10:01 PM

my conclusion:

hor gao kan lah! to both sides. u got money no matter where u r also good. no money be it singapore,malaysia or indonesia u also eat shit. doesn matter u migrate to malaysia or singapore. :mad:

You should include race into into it cos when survival at stake HELL TO RACE! Every man for himself. Ever do business with a PRC boh? You think same colour will seal the deal? Maybe the other race. But definitely not the Chinese. Ever witness how property agents (just one example) backstabbing each other just to close the deal? Hope you dont misconstrue my stmt again and brand me fm mudland. :rolleyes:

The_Unrepentant

18-01-2008, 10:50 PM

You should include race into into it cos when survival at stake HELL TO RACE! Every man for himself. Ever do business with a PRC boh? You think same colour will seal the deal? Maybe the other race. But definitely not the Chinese. Ever witness how property agents (just one example) backstabbing each other just to close the deal? Hope you dont misconstrue my stmt again and brand me fm mudland.

seriously don understand wat the fuck u talking at all!:D someone please translate.

The_Unrepentant

18-01-2008, 10:56 PM

Had you been jobless for several mths, junks of letters/emails but still got rejected, I doubt you would say Spore better place now than Msia.

do u understand my english?Malaysia may suit u more but singapore definitely is better for me at the moment but it may change in the future. (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/2531407-post532.html)

Actually I am quite tired of answering such stereotype question. But since you a Sporean, just this once i will entertain you such question. I have a combination of Chinese/Malay/Indian friends. I am a peranakan born, thats why I no problem speaking Malay. If you bother to go thru my past postings (Balai or Batam thread), you would realize I advise Bro DNAT not to call the Chinese, CINA. He should address we Chinese as Orang Tiong Hua. "Cina" sounds rather crude to me, imo. So, how now? Do PM Senior Bro DNAT to clarify it. So am I championing the race of Chinese or malay when I say we should be addressed as orang Tiong Hua rather than Cina? Should I show you my IC to prove otherwise.Anyway this is cyber. Just that I dont want to be a hypocrite. Just wondering why suddently issue of race come about. Thought its about bread and butter issue.

hor gao kan lah. lim peh no interest wat friend u have lah ,u advise which 'senior' lah, ur race mix here or mix there .lim peh ask u a simple question only. y do u talk like prof free?:rolleyes:

KatoeyLover69

19-01-2008, 12:26 AM

Report from The New Straits Times dated Friday 18 January 2007 :-

Women's hostel burned during rampage by 3 men

KUALA LANGAT : 3 men, believed to be Vietnamese, went on a rampage at a hostel housing Vietnamese women workers in Taman Teluk, Teluk Panglima Garang here today, killing a security guard and ransacking the place before torching it.

Kuala Langat CID chief ASP Hussin Zamora said in the 1am incident, one of the suspects (all were armed with knives and machetes) murdered the hostel’s security guard when the latter became aware of their presence.

He said the victim, Taib Kassim, 53, died at the scene as a result of being slashed and stabbed by the suspect.

“After murdering the victim, they proceeded to the dormitories and robbed over 10 workers there.

“However, one of the women managed to call their employer who alerted the police,” he told reporters here.

He said that when the suspects noticed police had surrounded the building, they began to torch the place and that fire and rescue personnel had to be called in from Banting to douse the flames.

Hussin said that despite the ensuing confusion, police managed to apprehend one of the suspects who is in his 20s but the other two managed to get away.

“Four of the workers sustained light injuriies while trying to escape the fire and were sent to the Banting Hospital for treatment,” he said, adding that a manhunt had been launched to track down the fugitives.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

KatoeyLover69

20-01-2008, 02:36 AM

Report from The New Paper dated Saturday 19 January 2008 :-

S'PORE PARLIAMENT TO DISCUSS RISING PRICES

What does the Government plan to do to help needy Singaporeans cope with rising prices ?

That is what 5 MPs, who have filed questions, will want to know when Parliament sits on Monday.

Latest official figures show that inflation hit 4.2% in November 2007, a 25-year high. And prices are set to rise further, pushing inflation to 5% or higher this year (2008).

Dr Muhhamad Faishal (Marine Parade GRC) will ask National development Minister Mah Bow Tan about measures to keep housing afforable for families on a tight budget.

Mr Seah Kian Peng, who is from the same GRC, will appeal to the Community Development, Youth & Sports Minister Vivian Balakrishnan for help for the destitute. Under the Public assistance scheme, they now get a monthly grant of S $ 200

Higher medical costs is a concern of Mr Sam Tan (Tanjung Pagar GRC) and Nominated MP Eunice Olsen. They will ask Health Minister Khaw Boon Wan how the Government can help the low-income cope.

Madam Halimah Yacob will also ask Finance Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam for more measures to help low-income Singaporeans.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

KatoeyLover69

20-01-2008, 02:42 AM

Report from Today newspaper dated Saturday 19 January 2008 :-

No more sweet deals for S'poreans in Johor - Malaysia bans foreigners from buying items like sugar, chicken

PRICES of groceries in Singapore have been going up between 10 and 20 per cent as shopkeepers take advantage of the approaching Chinese New Year festival but shoppers heading to Johor for cheaper deals will be disappointed.
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Shops in Johor are now banned from selling controlled food items such as sugar, flour and chicken to Singaporeans and other foreigners, following a Malaysian Cabinet decision on Wednesday.
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Those found guilty of taking controlled items out of Malaysia could face fines of up to RM100,000 ($43,860).
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The ban was announced by Malaysia's Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Minister Shafie Apdal on the sidelines of a community event in Perlis on Friday.
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Earlier in the week, he had given hint of the change when he was quoted as saying that these subsidies — which help to keep prices down — were meant for the benefit of Malaysians, not Thais or Singaporeans.
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There is no ban on the sale of petrol, even though it is also a controlled item. Most, if not all, Singaporean motorists fill up their tanks when they cross the Causeway as petrol there is roughly half of what it costs in Singapore.
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But there is talk that a RM20 tariff may be imposed on foreign vehicles entering the country.
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A kilogramme of fine sugar costs about RM1.55 (about 68 cents) at a Malaysian supermarket while it costs between $1.15 and $1.25 at FairPrice supermarkets.
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The ban could take effect as soon as next week after an inter-agency committee chaired by Mr Shafie finalises ways to enforce the restriction, an official from the Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs told Today.
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The inter-agency committee is made up of officials from the ministry, marine police, customs officials and other related government agencies, said Haji Iskandar Halim Sulaiman, the ministry's deputy director of the Enforcement Division.
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"There is some time before we can enforce the ban fully, but I would advise Singaporeans not to buy flour, sugar and other controlled items from now on," he said.

But Mr Iskandar admitted that it would be difficult for shops to ask customers to produce identity cards or passports at payment counters.
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He told Today: "Enforcement will be more focused at immigration checkpoints."
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Another ministry official believed that the ban would not affect Singaporeans drastically as they are not allowed to buy controlled items in bulk.
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Singaporeans, he felt, will not be too perturbed by the ban as the items involved are low in cost.
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The ban follows one on palm oil-based cooking oil which was imposed two weeks ago following a scarcity of the item in Malaysia, which shells out annual subsidies on the cooking oil up to the tune of RM635 million.
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The nation has suffered scarcities in recent times — of flour last year and sugar two years ago.
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Some Singaporeans who frequent supermarkets across the Causeway told Today they were not too troubled by news of the ban.
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Said 33-year-old Asrina Manhuri, who frequents Johor up to three times a month: "I can still get these products in Singapore. We go there mainly to pump petrol."
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But 26-year-old Khairul Sufandy said he would have less reason to visit Johor if a ban was imposed on the sale of petrol.
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A 62-year-old Singaporean contractor, who visits Johor once a month to buy $80 worth of groceries, sighed as he said: "Even Sheng Siong supermarket cannot match the prices of groceries in Johor."
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Another Singaporean, 48-year-old Marcus Woo, who heads to Johor about three times a month, said he might forgo such trips once the ban comes into effect.
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"I might as well go to Batam to buy groceries — and spend a few hours of relaxing there," he said.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

Orgasmic

20-01-2008, 11:09 AM

[QUOTE=dathinman;2531310]How about the hundreds of thousands of qualified Malaysians who can find work elsewhere in the global economy but still choose to stay in Malaysia, can they be wrong? :D
maybe u have never stayed there before. I did and so am now.

You go to ministries,.. the problem is so rampant that when they see u, a girl wearing a short skirt ( not really that short cmon! ), they fuck u upside down and ask u to go change and come another day.

last time, worse.. they see chinese, they make u Q up... a 3 minute admin work, they make u wait for 3 hours. I am involved with businessese and even education businesses up north. The government sector is the most terok.

my cilent hand was chopped off once further up (not in jb )and when he went to the hospital, the nurse fuck him upside down when he asked for first to be in Q. this is the kind of attitude in malaysia hospital.

Of course i dont like staying in singapore but i am giving my fair view that i dont like to stay in malaysia too, just that malaysia isnt as good a place to stay. 45% to 26% and 10% in ten years time... look, where have malaysian chinese gone to over the years?? these are the real stats from malaysia.

You get my point? Stop using anecdotal data and then extrapolating to make wide sweeping conclusions.

Besides that, you always use JB to compare with Singapore. JB is well known as a cowboy town. There are far nicer and safer places to live in Malaysia. JB isn't representative of how the entire Malaysia is like. Just like Geylang isn't representative of the entire Singapore. :D

Orgasmic

20-01-2008, 11:16 AM

[QUOTE=KatoeyLover69;2533650]Report from Today newspaper dated Saturday 19 January 2008 :-

No more sweet deals for S'poreans in Johor - Malaysia bans foreigners from buying items like sugar, chicken
NOW if the malaysian government were to impose RM 20 entry fee to enter malaysia, the JAM at the causeway will be gone forever.

Malaysia visitor rate will plunge 50%. Hotel rate will plunge 30%... petrol sales drop almost 20% and in johor maybe drop 40%.. u see those singaporeans pump petrol at the petrol stations in kastam and 2nd link coming back to singapore.. all RM 50 and above ... FULL TANK...

I am quietly praying that the RM 20 will be imposed because to me, I can use causeway rather than 2nd link all the time.. Cost me S$400 for 2nd link toll now with the increase in tolls. A trip to and fro my office in malaysia, i earn S$200-1000... S$8 is definitely worth it without the jams.

Millions of other visitors from Singapore will definitely give Malaysia a miss with the RM 20 imposed.

now on," he said.

But Mr Iskandar admitted that it would be difficult for shops to ask customers

dathinman

20-01-2008, 02:24 PM

maybe u have never stayed there before. I did and so am now.

I am a Malaysian who has spent most of my life in Malaysia except for a couple of years in Singapore.

You go to ministries,.. the problem is so rampant that when they see u, a girl wearing a short skirt ( not really that short cmon! ), they fuck u upside down and ask u to go change and come another day.

Yes, there were a couple of cases like this in the past.

But I would put this down as the excessiveness of small time administrators who adopt such policies on their own. If things get too unbearable, we complain and the Federal government might step in and put things right again.

An example of this is the recent case of one or two coed schools that segregated male and female students to different classes. They were soundly lambasted by parents. The newspapers also reported on this. The Education Ministry stepped in and put things right. Coed classes are being held again.

The way I see it is there are still quite a number of liberal minded Malaysians out there, not just non-Muslims but also Muslims who are putting up a stand.

last time, worse.. they see chinese, they make u Q up... a 3 minute admin work, they make u wait for 3 hours. I am involved with businessese and even education businesses up north. The government sector is the most terok.

I think you suffer from siege mentality.

I am as Chinese as you. I don't face such problems in dealing with government bodies and private sector bodies.

But having said that, I can speak Malay quite reasonably well. I might also be more "local" than you and know my way round a bit better.

my cilent hand was chopped off once further up (not in jb )and when he went to the hospital, the nurse fuck him upside down when he asked for first to be in Q. this is the kind of attitude in malaysia hospital.

Yes, there are many horror stories in the government hospitals. But I also hear many good things. Have you considered that for a mere RM15-RM20 you can get consultation and medication at the government hospitals? You go to Universiti Hospital in KL and you will see that everyday it is packed to the brim. The public health care isn't perfect but it isn't that bad either.

You want better service, go to the private hospitals.

Of course i dont like staying in singapore but i am giving my fair view that i dont like to stay in malaysia too, just that malaysia isnt as good a place to stay. 45% to 26% and 10% in ten years time... look, where have malaysian chinese gone to over the years?? these are the real stats from malaysia.

No way it would be 10% in ten years time unless there is migration in great numbers. You go do the maths.

In any case, why bring up these statistics? You only see this as a numbers game. To me, so what if the number is down to 10%? I have faith in my fellow Malaysians regardless of their race, that life in Malaysia would be pretty ok.

If you don't, you really should get out of this country. :D

Orgasmic

20-01-2008, 04:34 PM

Orgasmic

20-01-2008, 04:36 PM

dathinman

20-01-2008, 05:11 PM

actually, one of my colleague wore a normal skirt to the education department in Johor to fix up some stuff.. Got shouted at because her skirt was too short. It just happened a week ago. ITs really bad working in Malaysia. But if u want to do illegal stuff, its the prefect place to work. I grew up in Malaysia knowing all the tricks to earn money. But when those gang-rapes and robberies, slashing incidents happened so frequently, I had 2nd thoughts..

Who the hell are these civil servants paid RM 800 a month to yell at someone earning RM 15000 a month?

I called them up from Singapore and shouted at them all sorts of vugarities from malay to cina to hokkien. they diam diam.

I may get away from singapore to retire but Malaysia is definitely not the answer, at least for nw until the new government comes into power.

Some civil servants up north are really arrogant and rude.

Even at the custom, I made it a point to say THANK YOU loudly 100% of the time.. about 1% of the time i got greeted back. Those at second links are okay.

So why don't your colleague make a big ruckus? Complain to the newspapers, complain to her MP, complain to the head of department, etc. She shouldn't take things lying down. But she should leave out the part about her salary as it is totally irrelevant.

As for shouting over the phone, why don't you go on down and shout in their face? That's better, more confrontational and shame them in their own office. :D

I also deal with government officers. Sure some of them don't smile and have a long face, but some are ok. In any case, whether they smile or not, it is a small issue. I don't care as long I get what I need done in a reasonable amount of time.

Anyway, all your posts in this thread, where you have continuously and persistently said so many negative things about Malaysia is just your opinion on how things are. I just have a different opinion than you.

This is my country. I am here and I also see things that are wrong. But I just don't see everything as negatively as you do. Neither do I see things along racial lines as you do.

dathinman

20-01-2008, 05:19 PM

If the malaysian government is really COMPETENT and fair, we would not see protests from Hindraff and Bersih. Lucky Anwar is not participating in this election. UMNO has screwed up the country. 11A1 Chinese students cannot get into Medicine course but 11 passes malay can.

What rubbish.

LOL Who said the Malaysian government is competent and fair? Life in itself isn't fair after all.....

Anyway, BN will win again. I am an opposition supporter and it pains me to say that.

But this is a democratic country. The majority elects the party they want into power. As we truly believe in democracy, we have to also submit to the results. A vote for BN is a vote for the continuation of existing policies, rubbish though they may be.

If anyone doesn't like it, do something....more than just contribute one measly vote. For example, join an opposition party, campaign, etc. No use bitching and whining. Or calling others to leave Malaysia for that matter. :D

<<<SUCHINDA>>>

20-01-2008, 05:41 PM

LOL Who said the Malaysian government is competent and fair? Life in itself isn't fair after all.....

Anyway, BN will win again. I am an opposition supporter and it pains me to say that.

But this is a democratic country. The majority elects the party they want into power. As we truly believe in democracy, we have to also submit to the results. A vote for BN is a vote for the continuation of existing policies, rubbish though they may be.

If anyone doesn't like it, do something....more than just contribute one measly vote. For example, join an opposition party, campaign, etc. No use bitching and whining. Or calling others to leave Malaysia for that matter. :DI agree with you whole-heartedly bro.......same goes for Singkapoor......the 66.6% elected Pappy......no matter how unfair the boundaries drawn or tactics are.....the majority elected them.....so those not happy can either pack up & leave, stay & suffer, make a stand or hope. I am not an optimist & i got too much to lose if i go against them.....so in the meantime i am making plans to migrate while making a lots of noise hoping i can make some of my fellow countrymen come to their senses :cool:

Orgasmic

20-01-2008, 06:00 PM

I agree with you whole-heartedly bro.......same goes for Singkapoor......the 66.6% elected Pappy......no matter how unfair the boundaries drawn or tactics are.....the majority elected them.....so those not happy can either pack up & leave, stay & suffer, make a stand or hope. I am not an optimist & i got too much to lose if i go against them.....so in the meantime i am making plans to migrate while making a lots of noise hoping i can make some of my fellow countrymen come to their senses :cool:

At least Singaporean can still migrate to malaysia if we dont like it here. Where can average malaysians migrate to? Only those more educated and affluent have migrated...

dathinman

20-01-2008, 07:12 PM

At least Singaporean can still migrate to malaysia if we dont like it here. Where can average malaysians migrate to? Only those more educated and affluent have migrated...

What? Singaporeans migrate to Malaysia? I thought after all the bad things you have tried to highlight here, that option is just not viable to most Singaporeans. :D

There are the not so rich Malaysians who have "migrated" too. They "jump ship" to Australia, NZ, US, UK, Japan and Taiwan. OK, that's not legal. But there are those joining the global economy legally. Nurses to Middle East, desktop artists to Japan, Taiwan, etc. Who knows? They might settle down there permanently. But to most of them Malaysia is still "home". ;)

dathinman

20-01-2008, 07:15 PM

I agree with you whole-heartedly bro.......same goes for Singkapoor......the 66.6% elected Pappy......no matter how unfair the boundaries drawn or tactics are.....the majority elected them.....so those not happy can either pack up & leave, stay & suffer, make a stand or hope. I am not an optimist & i got too much to lose if i go against them.....so in the meantime i am making plans to migrate while making a lots of noise hoping i can make some of my fellow countrymen come to their senses :cool:

LOL In that aspect, I think Malaysia is a better place. One can be an opposition party leader and still do ok. Singapore....got to be careful. Do something wrong, get sued, lose job, etc.

How about just being an opposition party member? You still have too much to lose?

RTplayer

20-01-2008, 07:45 PM

Only you are allowed to discuss politics in Sex forum, only you can discuss politics in sex forum.

I agree with you whole-heartedly bro.......same goes for Singkapoor......the 66.6% elected Pappy......no matter how unfair the boundaries drawn or tactics are.....the majority elected them.....so those not happy can either pack up & leave, stay & suffer, make a stand or hope. I am not an optimist & i got too much to lose if i go against them.....so in the meantime i am making plans to migrate while making a lots of noise hoping i can make some of my fellow countrymen come to their senses

jedycity

21-01-2008, 09:06 AM

[QUOTE=KatoeyLover69;2533650]Report from Today newspaper dated Saturday 19 January 2008 :-
No more sweet deals for S'poreans in Johor - Malaysia bans foreigners from buying items like sugar, chicken
Yesterday, i heard news at 11pm that Malaysia will allow foreigners Vehicle to pump fuel 1/4 tank only...
Not sure, i heard wrongly or not...:p

jesse_voidable

21-01-2008, 11:48 AM

KatoeyLover69

21-01-2008, 05:09 PM

[QUOTE=Orgasmic;2534140]
Yesterday, i heard news at 11pm that Malaysia will allow foreigners Vehicle to pump fuel 1/4 tank only...
Not sure, i heard wrongly or not...

How to check that the vehicle is 1/4 full ? ....... How to enforce the rulling ? ....... Don't you think the petrol stations' bosses would want to maximise their profits by selling "full tank" of petrol to S'poreans ???

I think you heard WRONGLY !

What I think you heard is that S'porean cars are only allowed to leave S'pore with their tanks 3/4 full and that because of this they can only pump 1/4 tank of petrol in JB/Malaysia

KatoeyLover69

21-01-2008, 05:42 PM

Report from The STAR dated Monday 21 January 2008 :-

Thieves steal RM50,000 from car

MUAR : A businessman lost RM50,000 to two thieves on a motorcycle while waiting for his son to complete a transaction at a bank near Bukit Bakri here.

The man, who earlier withdrawn the cash from the bank, put the money in his Mercedes Benz before going to a nearby coffeeshop to wait for his son.

While he was enjoying the drink, he heard a loud noise from his car and found that someone had broken a side window and stolen the cash.

He said some residents saw a man grabbing the cash and fleeing on a motorcycle with an accomplice.

Muar police chief Asst Comm Mohammad Nasir Ramli said police would investigate the incident and urged residents to be more careful with their money.

“We advise the public to be careful when withdrawing cash from banks, especially now that the Chinese New Year season is approaching.

“If possible, we want those taking out large sums of cash to take friends to escort them,” he said.

ACP Mohammad Nasir urged the public not to leave cash or valuables in cars when they go shopping or run errands in town.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

KatoeyLover69

21-01-2008, 05:50 PM

For those of you who thinks that S'pore is a "Heaven on Earth", please read the following article ..............

Report from The STAR (Malaysia) dated Saturday 19 January 2008 :-

S'pore bracing for the crunch of a world economic recession

INSIGHT DOWN SOUTH
By SIAH CHIANG NEE

The pulse of the Singaporean consumer is weakening, hammered as he is on both sides – a painful stock market fall and the highest inflation in 25 years.

IT'S the sale of the year, so says the salesman shouting over a hailer at a suburban mall: "LCD TV sets for only S$990 (RM2,270) each cash-and-carry, usual price S$1,350 (RM3,100)."

"Promotion only for three days," proclaimed an overhead banner.

Elsewhere, shops were promoting cheaper computers (tabletop for S$999, or RM2,290) as well as branded clothes, cameras, jewellery and other luxury goods to catch the pre-Lunar New Year shoppers.

Even prostitutes, many of them from China, are offering special "discounts" to make as much money as possible from the Lunar New Year crowds in Chinatown, a newspaper reported.

According to Shin Ming Daily, they are charging customers S$50 (RM115) instead of the usual S$70-S$80 (RM160-RM180).

My letterbox is stuffed with more brochures than I can count, screaming offers for products ranging from cosmetics to canned abalone, from post-holiday tours to gym equipment.

This pre-festival sale is nothing unusual. This year, however, as the city gears for a downturn, there is a greater degree of urgency over previous occasions.

The pulse of the Singaporean consumer is getting weaker as he gets sandwiched between two evils – a painful stock market fall and the highest inflation in 25 years.

His biggest concern, however, is the prospect of a world economic recession.

The statistics show what could be the start of a trend regarding Singaporeans' greatest addiction: shopping. In November, the retail index unexpectedly fell by 0.3% after a gain of 3.8% in the previous month.

"Many businessmen see the coming festival as the last chance to sell their products before trouble hits," a stockbroker said.

"After that, a consumer lull is likely to settle in."

Sales of cars and high-end property have begun to fall, not to mention share values. The latest involves taxis.

In a spontaneous reaction to the official fare increases that many drivers opposed, many customers have abandoned taxis for public transport.

Last week, at the Singapore General Hospital, I saw so many empty cabs cruising for passengers that they were contributing to the traffic jam.

A pall of gloom has descended on this city over the big sharp stock market sell-off and the feared global recession.

"I fear for the consequences. Tens of thousands of people, from the super-rich to heartland retirees, have suffered losses," said a remisier who has seen many financial storms in the last 30 years.

The punters include workers, housewives and university students, who had been attracted by last year's market boom.

Some are now facing bankruptcy because of the forced sale of their devalued shares, which were bought on borrowed money.

In an uneasy environment the biggest risks are in luxury goods, which have had a good run in recent years.

"People are already buying less, and fewer are eating in restaurants," the remisier noted.

This pessimism is in contrast to the relative exuberance of a strong economy over the past four years. That momentum was still evident until recent weeks.

It is also contrary to Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew's expression of confidence that Singapore will emerge stronger in the next five years whether or not there is a downturn in the United States and Europe.

Lee said Singapore would be "at a different plateau" by 2012.

"The old Singapore, we are leaving behind," he said.

Many feel that while last year's 7% growth (this year's projection: 5% or less) was great news for the nation, the benefit to the people could have been much less than thought possible.

Already hit by inflation, many are now struggling with stock losses that could take years to resolve.

"My hands are cold and my heart pounds every time I read news from Wall Street and see my stocks plunging by the minute," said an investor who has lost S$150,000 (RM344,000) in just one month.

The main stock index has fallen 20% in just two months.

Slowly, Singaporeans are getting used to living with a global economy and with the realisation that a strong GDP does not immediately mean strong earnings for workers.

Another is that irrespective of sound local fundamentals, the republic can be dragged down by a banking crisis half a world away.

"Asians are paying the price of overspending and over-borrowing by Americans; and with no say on the matter," a Chinese-language teacher lamented.

Apart from the all-embracing government policies, the property and stock markets are factors that most affect Singaporean lives – and both face poor prospects in the coming year. (Malaysians are the second-biggest foreign buyers of property here.)

Economists who have seen all this before say they will recover and move higher, but while it lasts the ripples will be widely felt on people's jobs, incomes and spending.

Last year, property prices shot up by a dramatic 27%, with more than 14,800 new private homes sold – or 1,200 a month.

In December, however, only 305 deals were done.

For the tens of thousands of troubled families, the immediate crisis is managing losses in the stock market.

In a Channel News Asia online survey involving 27 traders:

> Almost half (47%) declared they had lost up to S$50,000 (RM115,000);

> Some 14% admitted to losing S$50,000-S$150,000 (RM115,000-RM344,000); and,

> Three persons said they had lost more than S$1mil (RM2.3mil).

The chat site reflects many of the painful individual – and family – woes, with workers losing an equivalent of several months to a few years of their salary.

One said the recent crash would result in him working for 10 months without pay to clear his debts.

"I don't know how to tell my wife. She may divorce me," he moaned.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

JeffKL

22-01-2008, 01:13 AM

do u understand my english?Malaysia may suit u more but singapore definitely is better for me at the moment but it may change in the future. (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/2531407-post532.html)

hor gao kan lah. lim peh no interest wat friend u have lah ,u advise which 'senior' lah, ur race mix here or mix there .lim peh ask u a simple question only. y do u talk like prof free?:rolleyes:

lol, and i thought i was the only one having problems communicating a point across to that cartoon wannabe kid.:D

actually, i was at JOBSDB wif a fren last sunday. hopefully, some of the unemployed were out there looking actively for jobs (i wish u luck) and not sit behind the computer and lament about the competition for jobs. glad and relieved to see that the sg job market is quite " biased". cos i see alot of <Singaporean and PRs only> signs. unlike what a ignorant naysayer has been preaching here all these while.

i wanted to make sure about some wild allegations cartoon wannabe threw in the previous posts and i even checked to see if i, a foreign talent "on a tourist visa" could apply a job there, the answer was NO! although they asked me to check if the Suntec "toilet" dept was in need of temp staff.

amazing what a person with a few unemployed diploma frens can imagine about the entire sg job market whilst surfing porn on the internet. damn pack of lies and sweeping statements.he shud change jobs and be hollywood screenwriter. they're having a strike now, good time to go in as a foreign talent there.

i'm not too sure how's a foreign talent like me, a smart alac as one nut proclaims, "ever" going to apply for a job when i'm neither Sg or PR :rolleyes: does slotting in SGD 50 bucks under my CV do the trick? or do i have to start bleaching myself? best part is u dun need a PHd for their jobs, min. a dip. and some 2 yrs exp is all that qualifies u. now, that sounds like something a reasonable hardworking average singaporean can handle.. unless, that hypocritical naysayer can prove me wrong again with stats and facts (the way he likes others to do it but never does it), instead of making sweeping statements

so for that specific cartoon wannabe jet transforming retard who has been grumbling about lack of jobs for their fellow countrymen, i think the answer's pretty obvious, no more excuses for not getting a job when there's so many out there. if even getting a job is so tough, i don't think you even want to come on this forum and debate intelligently on economy n govt administration issues.:p

u are unduly worried about the enroachment of foreigners into ur local job mkt. somehow, all your whining seems to remind me of a story of a little chick who keeps crying " the sky is falling!"

come to think of it, if i were a singaporean employer, i would be terribly insulted by cartoon wannabe's rantings. is he implying my "fellow" singaporeans are not capable of a job, given his qualifications and exp and i have to judge a potential candidate based solely on his race or nationality? i'm insulted!

does he have the audacity to presume i still have this colonial mentality after 40 over years of independence? white is better? foreign is better than local? is he the secret chairman of a local KKK branch that no one knows about? he shud be terribly ashamed of himself this cartoon wannabe! somemore calling himself a proud singaporean??! is he even remotely suggesting to everyone here that the foreign talent is a threat to the fine, intelligent, hardworking young singaporean men (and women)... gosh, the ministry of education minister should be fired!!

man.. , singapore is not fried rice paradise!.. i better round up all my overseas frens and tell them singapore is an ang moh paradise. get their jobs and their chicks!

probably the next thing cartoon wannbe is going to tell us all that his girl friend prefers a long, white dick than his short, yellow dick.. and whine about what the govt is NOT doing to stop the foreign talents from snatching away their local girls. sheesh. childish..

foreign talent issues is a global issue. stop bleating about it as if it was exclusively a singaporean issue! remove ur blinkers and look at it wholesomely. if foreign talent was "such" a BIG issue and problem as you have been championing, one of ur relatives could be washing someone's bungalow 6 days a week and hanging out at lucky plaza on sundays by now!!

viewsonic

22-01-2008, 06:43 AM

[QUOTE=JeffKL;2537988]lol, and i thought i was the only one having problems communicating a point across to that cartoon wannabe kid.:D

actually, i was at JOBSDB wif a fren last sunday. hopefully, some of the unemployed were out there looking actively for jobs (i wish u luck) and not sit behind the computer and lament about the competition for jobs. glad and relieved to see that the sg job market is quite " biased". cos i see alot of <Singaporean and PRs only> signs. unlike what a ignorant naysayer has been preaching here all these while.
[QUOTE]

I think you have went to the wrong place to look for job. In the place where i work now. Many of my collegues are malaysia.....

Well most of them still hold on their MY citizen as was told that once u give out MY citizen, u no longer can apply for it.....

While some do convert to Sporean due to their children education. While some married a Sporean, have a win win situation.

Why not try some local job agent and on behalf they will look for the job that u want for u?

dathinman

22-01-2008, 10:47 AM

Jobs for Singaporean and PR only could mean they don't want the hassle of applying for Employment Permit for the worker.

If you are good, then nothing to worry about. Some Malaysians who are high-flyer in Malaysia get head hunted. From 5 figure RM salary become 5 figure S$ salary.

Lower range job market also ok. Still many factory workers taking company bus to Singapore to work.

Anyway, Singapore must be doing something right. Since I left a couple of years ago, the population has increased by a lot, from ~ 3.8 million to 4.4 million. One has to wonder how does it absorb an increase of 15% population increase. There must be sufficient jobs created, increase in business activity, housing, etc.

Things are looking good for Singapore IMO. The government takes measure to stimulate the economy. Sure there has been screw ups but I think there has been more successes than screw ups. They also have so much money that they can afford to screw up now and then.

Over here in Malaysia, you know I know lah. :D

Orgasmic

22-01-2008, 01:39 PM

Actually, in malaysia, nothing has changed much over the last 40 years under this government.

At least its good in a way, the prices of many products havent changed much too.

i bemoan the day when malaysia government remove the fuel subsidy and fuel price becomes RM 4 instead of RM 2 now.. then my company petrol fees in Johor will increase from RM 5000 now to RM 10000 while sales remain. sigh.

but once malaysia economy picks up and becomes developed ( if it can that is ), the prices will also go up. Many people think that malaysia prices and government is good because prices are low. The prices may be low but salary much lower. How much can a company in JB pay you? RM 20,000 a month? its still a mere S$7000 but too bad, many dont get RM 20000 a month pay.

Jobs for Singaporean and PR only could mean they don't want the hassle of applying for Employment Permit for the worker.

If you are good, then nothing to worry about. Some Malaysians who are high-flyer in Malaysia get head hunted. From 5 figure RM salary become 5 figure S$ salary.

Lower range job market also ok. Still many factory workers taking company bus to Singapore to work.

Anyway, Singapore must be doing something right. Since I left a couple of years ago, the population has increased by a lot, from ~ 3.8 million to 4.4 million. One has to wonder how does it absorb an increase of 15% population increase. There must be sufficient jobs created, increase in business activity, housing, etc.

Things are looking good for Singapore IMO. The government takes measure to stimulate the economy. Sure there has been screw ups but I think there has been more successes than screw ups. They also have so much money that they can afford to screw up now and then.

Over here in Malaysia, you know I know lah. :D

Xdecepticon

22-01-2008, 02:39 PM

i wanted to make sure about some wild allegations cartoon wannabe threw in the previous posts and i even checked to see if i, a foreign talent "on a tourist visa" could apply a job there, the answer was NO! although they asked me to check if the Suntec "toilet" dept was in need of temp staff.

Well, you can call me names or just like the Un_rependant swearing at me. No problem. Just like when someone cursed at you, what did Buddha have to say? :D

OK. Regarding the "wild allegations" I had made. I suppose all my postings wrote like a professor. Too chim for you to understand huh? We are not just talking about the Job exhibition. Let me ask you this. Do you know how many days Americans/ Australians...just to name a few, were given to stay in Spore? :D

KatoeyLover69

22-01-2008, 05:11 PM

Report from The STAR dated Monday 21 January 2008 :-

Comatose JB robbery victim dies a week later

JOHOR BARU : A moneychanger who went into a coma after he was attacked and robbed a week ago died yesterday.

Johor Baru (South) OCPD Asst Comm Zainuddin Yaacob said the victim, Low Siang Wang, 66, passed away at the Sultanah Aminah Hospital here at 9.35pm.

“The post-mortem listed the cause of death as intra-cranial bleeding.”

A robber punched Low outside the Hong Leong Bank along Jalan Wong Ah Fook on Jan 14.

Low fell, hitting his head on a concrete post. The robber fled with RM2,000.

ACP Zainuddin urged those who had information about the case to contact the police at 07-2212 999.

In another case, a 20-year-old woman was found dead in a hotel room along Jalan Sungai Chat last night.

ACP Zainuddin said the woman was believed to have committed suicide by injecting herself with an unidentified substance.

In an unrelated case, the body of an unidentified man, believed to be in his 40s, was found inside a sewage treatment plant pond in Taman Daya.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

KatoeyLover69

22-01-2008, 05:14 PM

Report from The STAR dated Tuesday 22 January 2008 :-

Woman’s body found underneath bed in JB

JOHOR BARU : A 52-year-old woman was murdered and her body placed underneath a bed in her home in Taman Cempaka.

Pahiama Gobal, who had a head wound, was discovered by her husband at about 6.30pm on Sunday.

Johor Baru (North) OCPD Asst Comm Ruslan Hassan said robbery had been ruled out as nothing was missing from the house.

ACP Ruslan said a 52-year-old man and a 27-year-old woman had been detained to assist in the investigations.

In an unrelated case, two masked men escaped with RM20,000 worth of jewellery from a goldsmith’s shop in Taman Dahlia at 6.15pm on Sunday.

ACP Ruslan said the suspects took five minutes to rob the shop and they escaped with gold necklaces, bracelets and other jewellery.

Anyone with information can contact the police hotline at 07-2212999 or the nearest police station.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

Sylar

22-01-2008, 05:26 PM

Xdecepticon

22-01-2008, 06:06 PM

amazing what a person with a few unemployed diploma frens can imagine about the entire sg job market whilst surfing porn on the internet. damn pack of lies and sweeping statements.he shud change jobs and be hollywood screenwriter. they're having a strike now, good time to go in as a foreign talent there.

Gee. What a disappointment. I always say you are a smart alac. I really meant it ok. Its a complement. But after reading your above posting, what have i to say. Not only you teaching a sporean how to bonk in geylang but you also calling the kettle black. Arent you not surfing porn here too? Did not you broadcast to the whole world CAT40 bely bely expensive for "Msian" jeffkl/jb? :rolleyes:

so for that specific cartoon wannabe jet transforming retard who has been grumbling about lack of jobs for their fellow countrymen, i think the answer's pretty obvious, no more excuses for not getting a job when there's so many out there. if even getting a job is so tough, i don't think you even want to come on this forum and debate intelligently on economy n govt administration issues

Seems like we are going in circles. S$1500 or lets say S$2000 a mth for a Sporean with fam of 4. Hows that? You think its enough? Just a hypotatical figure. In the first place I am not surprise the employer rather take a workpermit/employment pass holder. Smart alac like you should know the reason why. Like you always say "its written in the wall". So tell me. Combine mthly income salary for fam of 4....S$2000/- a mth, kou pu kou?

u are unduly worried about the enroachment of foreigners into ur local job mkt. somehow, all your whining seems to remind me of a story of a little chick who keeps crying " the sky is falling!"

Sure, its not happening in Msia. Thats why you not unduly worried. Work in Spore and ex in Msia, you get few thousand ringgits.

come to think of it, if i were a singaporean employer, i would be terribly insulted by cartoon wannabe's rantings. is he implying my "fellow" singaporeans are not capable of a job, given his qualifications and exp and i have to judge a potential candidate based solely on his race or nationality? i'm insulted!

Hmm...very ignorant and naive stmt you posted there. I am the boss of a company. Who the hell is the garment to tell me who to employ? Garment paying or me paying my staffs salary? :rolleyes:

is he even remotely suggesting to everyone here that the foreign talent is a threat to the fine, intelligent, hardworking young singaporean men (and women)... gosh, the ministry of education minister should be fired!!

Again you and your sweeping stmt. We are not going anywhere. Did I say the foreign talent policy is a total threat to Spore economy? I bely bely tired answering your retarded stmt. If you bother just go thru my past posting.

Hmm..that again shows how "smart alac" you are. Tell me whos the previous Edu Minister? Where did the latter headed back to? :rolleyes:

probably the next thing cartoon wannbe is going to tell us all that his girl friend prefers a long, white dick than his short, yellow dick.

Gosh. Its no more a discussion I suppose. 1st posting fm you, you already "tiu" here and there, next calling me names and now you add more insults. And you told everyone here you gentleman/apologise to me? Like I always say, I wont hurl back abuses or insults you, your fam or g/f.

I guess I will do my exit fm this particular thread. With all the zapping and the insults I got, I suppose all my postings are nonsence to you Msians. Nevertheless as a Sporean who work and stay here, I personally have encountered retrenched/unemployed fellow Sporeans who once reached the age of 35 yrs, its not easy to get another job. Sounds pessimistic but its a reality. S$2000 a mth is peanut in Spore. If he/shes lucky, they may get another job with a lower pay. And why are they in such a predicament? Need i say more "nonsense"?

KatoeyLover69

22-01-2008, 06:37 PM

Report from Today newspaper dated Monday 21 January 2008 :-

Crime rates are low, but ...
... kidnapping hoaxes, phone scams now a top concern: Police

AMID crime rates that are the third lowest in a decade, crimes against the elderly, metal thefts and statutory rape bucked the trend last year.
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But the crime cases that stood out were the spate of kidnapping hoaxes and phone scams — virtually unheard of in 2006, now a top concern for police officials.
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They have stepped up efforts to nab the culprits, and three men aged between 35 and 40 — two Chinese and a Taiwanese national — were arrested between December and this month, said a spokesman as the Police unveiled the latest crime statistics.
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The total number of crime cases fell to 32,545 — 2.2 per cent lesser than in 2006 — but commercial crime cases, such as scams, rose from 3,159 to 3,489.
Some 325 victims lost more than $4 million in cash after being duped into transferring money overseas — ranging from $200 to $350,000 — to claim cash prizes.
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Kidnapping ruses — in which callers fake threats to hurt their victims' family members for ransom money — made four people $80,000 poorer.
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Fraudsters even impersonated law enforcement officers advising victims to remit money in order to close investigations into crimes they never committed. About 50 victims lost $500,000.
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Assistant Commissioner Wong Hong Kuan, Singapore Police Force director of operations, said public education was the best defence in foiling such acts. The police are working with remittance and financial institutions to detect unusual transactions.
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"There have been cases in which the staff have aided the police in detecting such scams, assuring the victims and stopping the money from being remitted overseas," he said.
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Another worrying trend is of females under 14 having consensual sex. There were 57 statutory rape cases last year, up from 38 in 2006. Boyfriends and friends continued to make up the bulk of offenders.
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Meanwhile, crimes committed against senior citizens rose from 170 in 2006 to 241 last year. As for metal thefts, the number rose from 1,087 to 1,291 cases last year.
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Generally, there was good news aplenty: Housebreaking cases were at their lowest in 20 years, while youth arrests dropped from 4,280 in 2006 to 4,135 last year.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

Sylar

23-01-2008, 01:24 PM

Another legalized daylight robbery case from our beloved government

Malaysia Today: Your source of independent news - Bernas, Malaysia's leading rice smuggler (http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/1630/46/)

KatoeyLover69

23-01-2008, 05:48 PM

Report from The STAR dated Tuesday 22 January 2008 :-

Begs for a living in Singapore

> AN amputee who begs for a living in Singapore is able to make a whopping S$4,000 (RM9,000) in a single day, Sin Chew Daily reported

The daily reported that the 38-year-old woman from China, known as Xiao Hui, has been kneeling outside a temple begging for alms for the past month.

A reporter observed that the woman, who had just moved to the island republic from Malaysia, could make $S30 (RM70) in just five minutes.

A hawker, when interviewed, said the woman was ferried to the place in a Mercedes.

When approached by the reporter, Xiao Hui said she lost her legs in a car accident when she was 16.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

JeffKL

23-01-2008, 06:49 PM

Lol... it was rather fun to read the entire post of this cartoon wannabe and see himself embarass himself once again with his nonsensical statements and selective reading. I guess, i need that sort of entertainment every few days when i log onto the SBF.

what can i say? is it true that he has lost the battle and found nothing else constructive to say and took the easy way out? lol..

i hope he stays on. its fun to argue with someone who cannot comprehend subtle sarcasms and always never fail to outdo his previous comical posts with more nonsensical and whimsical statements whilst responding to my sarcastic remarks...:p he reminds me of one fren.. talk never go thru head, go thru ass first..

typical sore loser i must say.. and as someone said before " he blames the whole world for his problems except himself.."

oh viewsonic, i wasn't there looking for a job myself. i was there wif a sg fren, accompanying him actually. he's a diploma holder. but he's not the typical whiny frens that cartoon wannabe has around him.

but i tot what the heck, i had to prove certain wild allegations wrong. i hate to listen to crap statements by others who cannot back up with facts. and i get called a smart alac? working a professional white collar job on tourist visa ? gimme a break retard.. grow up cartoon wannabe. and put ur facts on the table before u start mumbling crap to me again. and for once, you said something right at last in ur last posting .. your postings ARE nonsense to us. thanks for pointing that out to us einstein. pleae re read the last two sentences again before you even start saying crappy stuff again.:rolleyes:

oh and before u even consider writing crap stuff again, i have to provide facts again to u. SG has no poverty! check that out before u start mumbling about 2k salary and 4 mouths to feed. who's to say a person earning 10k or 20 k is enuff? u think its enuff? what is enuf? at the end of the day, it all boils down to personal decisions on how to spend that SGD2000. and i'm quite sure for such people with financial difficulties, the govt has set up special assistance funds to aid them.tats what u told me the last time.

if your salary SGD10k, also not enuff for 4 mouth ler.. want to drive big car, stay bungalow, every day eat expensive restaraunts, wife want branded stuff, kids want to go holidays every school holidays, u want to bonk a girl every 3 days.. so please start thinking like a grown up and stop giving me useless trivial in ur whiny voice"its not enuff for a man to feed family of 4 on 2k salary.."

you cannot save the world la.. as i said, be a man and give ur job to that person who got retrenched. he needs it more than u. donate ur money to those people u PERSONALLY encountered so that they can survive. be more like Buddha cos u think u act like one. do something instead of whining about it. don't be a hypocrite.

SG is a democratic economy kiddo. u want ur fellow poor, hard luck, diploma holding singaporeans to have the same salary and job and every right the other richer singaporeans or foreign talents are having?? u better tell LKY to change SG to Communism.

KatoeyLover69

24-01-2008, 04:57 PM

Despite all these, do u believe that our Police force has a high crime solve rate, which conform with interpol standard, I strongly believe the government have their own invented calculation

Report from The STAR dated Wednesday 23 January 2008 :-

'Don't just blame cops for rise in crime'

THE police should not be blamed the rise in crime and failing to solve high-profile cases, Makkal Osai reported.

Deputy Internal Security Minister Datuk Fu Ah Kiow was quoted as saying that the police should be commended for their untiring efforts in setting up special squads to solve certain cases.

He said last year police managed to solve up to 50% of criminal cases, way past the 20% target set by Interpol.

Fu said the police had never closed investigations into any high-profile case, adding that to solve cases, they needed clues and public cooperation.

He said crime prevention must not be left solely to the police as everyone must chip in to help.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

KatoeyLover69

24-01-2008, 06:57 PM

Report from Today newspaper (Singapore) dated Wednesday 23 January 2008 :-

Blame it on transport costs - 6.4% year-on-year rise was the chief contributor to overall inflation of 4.4%

IN November 2007, it was the rising cost of food. Last month, it was the spike in transport fares. Each month now seems to bring its own reason why the inflation rate is reaching highs last witnessed some two decades ago.
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Singapore's consumer price index (CPI) — a measure of the average change in the prices of a basket of goods and services — rose 4.4 per cent last month from a year earlier, with transport contributing the most.
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Transport costs, which made up 22 per cent of the index, increased 6.4 per cent in December year-on-year, its highest in 15 years. Higher cab fares, car prices and dearer petrol contributed to the jump, said the Department of Statistics yesterday.
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"A large part of the move upwards is on account of higher global oil prices, which has led in recent months to hikes in bus and taxi fares," said HSBC economist Robert Prior-Wandesforde.
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ComfortDelGro, which runs the largest taxi fleet here with more than 17,000 cabs, jacked up fares by as much as 49 per cent on Dec 17, with other taxi firms following suit.
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Bus fares had also increased in recent months, while the Government raised road tariffs for motorists.
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The other main items responsible for the surge were food, which rose 5.5 per cent last month, and healthcare, the costs of which went up by 6.3 per cent.
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For the full year, the CPI gained 2.1 per cent after rising 1 per cent in 2006. The Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS) expects the index to increase between 3.5 and 4.5 per cent this year.
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Rising inflation first made headlines when the October CPI figure surged unexpectedly to 3.6 per cent against a median forecast of 2.8 per cent. It hit 4.2 per cent a month later for a 25-year high.
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While the numbers are in line with economists' expectations — merely 0.1 per cent above the 4.3-per-cent consensus forecast — most expect inflation to continue its upward trend this month. With higher valuations for HDB flats kicking in this year, some expect inflation to breach 6 per cent.
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"We'll continue to see the impact of higher food prices as we go into the Chinese New Year, and possible food supply disruptions due to the weather, though there may be less pressure from fuel prices if the current moderation in crude oil prices continues," said CIMB-GK regional economist Song Seng Wun.
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Despite the ongoing concerns, economists think it unlikely that the Government will further target the exchange rate to curb imported inflation after its surprise move to let the Singapore dollar appreciate faster in October.
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Against the backdrop of a possible United States recession and intensified growth risks, Citigroup economist Kit Wei Zheng expects the "MAS to maintain its policy stance of a 'slightly steeper' appreciation bias" for the Singapore dollar.
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Agreeing, DBS economist Irvin Seah said: "Given that external demand is already so weak, you wouldn't want to further aggravate the situation."
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Instead, the Government is likely to alleviate inflationary pressures through concessions and rebates, said Mr Song.
6.4% year-on-year rise was the chief contributor to overall inflation of 4.4%
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

Orgasmic

24-01-2008, 07:45 PM

One can never starve to death in Singapore. In Malaysia maybe. In Singapore, its just a matter of whether u want to be hardworking or not. Employers will know what i am talking about. Many assholes complain here and there saying no money no job but they smoke and drink and go Geylang every day. What the hell.

KatoeyLover69

25-01-2008, 04:35 PM

One can never starve to death in Singapore. In Malaysia maybe.

How to starve to death in S'pore ???? :confused:

Even a begger can earn S $ 4,000 ( RM 9,000 ) in ONE DAY in S'pore ( see my posting # 569 above )

KatoeyLover69

25-01-2008, 04:40 PM

Report from The New Straits Times (Malaysia) dated Wednesday 23 January 2008 :-

VICE STAYS IN SINGAPORE

SINGAPORE : The country's Police arrested more than 5,000 foreign prostitutes last year (2007) but it is unrealistic to expect vice to be eliminated, the Home Affairs Minister has told Parliament.

Wong Kan Seng was responding to a question from an MP about efforts to curb "rampant gambling and prostitution" in the red-light Geylang district.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

KatoeyLover69

25-01-2008, 04:46 PM

Report from The STAR dated Friday 25 January 2008 :-

We've failed if crime rate rises, says Musa

KUALA LUMPUR : The police force would be deemed to have failed if the crime rate continued to rise and the drug menace left unchecked, Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan said.

He said the public gauged police efficiency and ability based on the current situation and happenings in the country.

"The public has high hopes of police providing them with the best service and this includes ensuring their right to live in peace and harmony.

"In their eyes, we will be deemed to have failed, as policing job here is focused on two elements – crime and drug abuse," he said, adding that the current crime situation in the country was under control.

Musa said the Government had declared drug abuse as the country's number one enemy and as such, wanted his officers and men to declare an all-out war against drug abuse and trafficking.

He urged his officers and personnel to change their mindset and work attitude, and to take heed the nation's call for a better police force.

He also said policemen must always be one step ahead of criminals in all aspects and must learn to be proactive rather then reactive.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

KatoeyLover69

25-01-2008, 04:49 PM

Report from The STAR dated Friday 25 January 2008 :-

KL crime rate drops

KUALA LUMPUR : Crime in the city dropped by 6.7% or 2,245 cases in 2007 compared to the previous year as the result of closer cooperation between the police and the public, said outgoing city police chief Deputy Comm Datuk Zul Hasnan Najib Baharudin.

He said the crime-solving rate of 35% was higher than that set by Interpol, which is 20%.

"Among our successes was the confiscation of firearms and live bullets, besides the seizure of 44,381gm of heroin, 70,830gm of ganja, 3,674gm of amphetamines, 19,236gm of ketamine, 8,139 Ecstasy pills, 37,046 Eramin 5 pills, 8,159 pills of psychotropic drugs and 55 litres of codeine by the Narcotics Crime Investigation Department.

"We also arrested 450 drug traffickers while 2,888 people were detained for possession of drugs and 3,456 more detained under the Dangerous Drug Act," he said after handing over the baton of command to new city police chief Deputy Comm Datuk Muhd Sabtu Osman at the Kuala Lumpur Police Headquarters.

Zul Hasnan has been promoted to the rank of Commissioner and is now the director of the narcotics department in Bukit Aman.

He also said that a total of RM5mil in cash and assets belonging to drug suspects were confiscated under the Forfeiture of Property Act in the past two years.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

KatoeyLover69

25-01-2008, 04:51 PM

Report from The STAR dated Monday 14 January 2008 :-

Singaporeans are not good neighbours

SINGAPORE : Up to 20% of flat occupants in Singapore have NEVER spoken to their neighbours, according to a poll by The Sunday Times (Singapore).

Even more disturbing was the revelation that 53% would "do nothing" even if they believed something was amiss, such as not seeing their neighbours for along period of time.

The newspaper's poll of 200 households was triggered by the discovery of the badly decomposed bodies of 82-year-old Wong Tong Seng and his daughter in their flat last wee. Ngai Hong Chee, the 80-year-old wife, was in the flat as well and alive. Neighbours had not seen the family for 7 weeks. Police were finally called because of the smell from the flat.

Most of those queried feared being labelled a "busybody".

Sociologists said Singapore is not the only country experiencing the trend of neighbours becoming increasingly isolated.

"In a dense city, you get people in your face all the time, so you learn to value the privacy of your home", sociologist Paulin Straughan was quoted as saying.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

KatoeyLover69

28-01-2008, 07:26 AM

Report from Today newspaper (S'pore) dated Sunday 27 January 2008 :-

Inflation is biggest fear of 2008: Dr Tony Tan

Fret not about the possibility of an economic slump right now, but about inflation and whether a recession will rear its ugly head in the second half of the year.
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This is the economic prognosis by Dr Tony Tan, deputy chairman and executive director of the Government of Singapore Investment Corp (GIC).
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"My own worry with regard to the present economic situation is not what happens in the first six months of this year, but what happens in the second six months," he told reporters last Saturday.
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He explained that if a slump kicked in now and measures by the American government provide relief, then that would basically be "a normal adjustment" after some four good years in the financial markets.
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Interest rates have hovered near rock bottom levels for years now, making it cheap to borrow money and contributing partly to the surge in the prices of assets such as housing, and "all of these excesses have to be worked out", he said.
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But if the second half continues suffering a downturn, then Dr Tan said he would start getting worried..

"If that's the case, then we are in a different situation and we may face difficult times, not for a few months but for one or two years," he said. CIMB-GK economist Song Seng Wun said the impact on Singapore would depend on how the United States slowdown affects the Organisation of Economic Cooperation Development (OECD) countries.
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He said that if as a group, the growth of OECD countries start to halve or contract, then Asia will "feel the chill of that draft".
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He said signs to look out for in the second half include consumers' travel and spending patterns. For now, "confidence remains intact in this neck of the woods".
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Last week, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said that the gross domestic product (GDP) would expand by 4.5 to 6.0 per cent this year.
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All said and done, inflation is still a bigger concern for Dr Tan.
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Calling it "my overall worry for 2008", he said that if prices continued climbing, especially for those of oil and food prices, there would be "serious effects" on the United States economy and the rest of the world.
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If left unchecked, experts say inflation will erode disposal incomes of the lower and even middle class, exacerbating the disparity between the haves and the have nots, and posing political headaches for Governments. These can spill over and create instability thus undermining economic growth, the experts added. .

Already, the Government is trying to relieve the pain of inflation through measures such as allowing the Singapore dollar to strengthen.
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But with crude oil prices hovering between US$80 and US$100 per barrel, the general inflation outlook is rather gloomy, said Dr Tan, citing how the price of gold has recently clocked new highs.
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"That's always a good indication of how analysts and market participants view how likely inflation will come back because gold is a classic hedge against inflation," Dr Tan said.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

Bronco

14-02-2008, 08:17 PM

Going shopping in JB? You can't take these out

Hazlin Hassan, Malaysia Correspondent
Thu, Feb 07, 2008
The Straits Times

PUTRAJAYA - MALAYSIA has banned 10 essential items from being taken out of the country by anyone without an export permit, in a bid to ensure adequate domestic supply following recent shortages.

Offenders can be fined RM100,000 (S$44,000) or jailed for three months or both for a first time offence, under the ban announced by Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Minister Shafie Apdal yesterday.

The 10 items are sugar, wheat flour, cooking oil, petrol, diesel, liquefied petroleum gas, chicken, and fertiliser, as well as mild steel roundbars and cement and clinkers, which are used in the construction industry.

Datuk Shafie's announcement comes as Malaysia prepares for national elections in which the spiralling cost of basic food items will be a major issue.

On KL's ban list
Sugar
Wheat flour
Cooking oil
Petrol
Diesel
Liquefied petroleum gas
Chicken
Fertiliser
Mild steel roundbars
Cement and clinkers

The new rules apply to Malaysians and foreigners alike, although Singaporeans in the habit of topping up their tanks across the Causeway will be unaffected, as the petrol ban applies only to fuel carried in containers.

Hoarding caused a recent shortage of cooking oil, the price of which is controlled by the government.

At the same time, smuggling of supplies of cooking oil, petrol and flour across Malaysia's porous northern border with Thailand is rife.

Malaysians enjoy subsidies on water, electricity, fuel and food, particularly rice and sugar, which cost the government an estimated RM35 billion - a quarter of its revenue - in 2006.

Simply subsidising cooking oil, which disappeared from shelves briefly last month during the shortage, costs RM635 million a year.

And Datuk Shafie told a news conference yesterday: 'We have taken this measure in order to prevent disruption to supply in the market.

'Smuggling can cause a lot of problems. We are not supposed to subsidise outsiders too, subsidies are meant to be enjoyed by Malaysians.'

The glaring disparity between Malaysian prices and those of its neighbours has led to massive personal export of goods, he said, adding that border officials had said that the items on the list were those most commonly taken out of the country.

Under the ban, which is effective immediately, repeat offenders can be fined RM250,000 or jailed for five years or both.

Meanwhile, while welcoming the ban, Federation of Malaysian Consumers Associations president Marimuthu Nadesan has suggested that a better way to avoid shortages of essential goods might be to stop subsidising them altogether.

'Visitors from our neighbouring countries are buying our subsidised sugar, flour, petrol and rice, and this is what causes nationwide shortages,' he said.

'For example, sugar prices have not moved for over 12 years. There was a shortage (in 2006) because prices in the global market went up but prices here did not move.

'Subsidies for many items in Malaysia are more than 50 per cent. People have to learn to live without subsidies.'

KatoeyLover69

21-02-2008, 12:48 AM

Report from The STAR dated Wednesday 20 February 2008 :-

Businessman going for a jog shot outside his house

KUALA LUMPUR : A businessman was shot in front of his house in Cheras just as he was about to go jogging yesterday.

The man, whose identity is being withheld by police, had just stepped out his front gate of his Kampung Cheras Baru house at 8.20am when a gunman approached him, fired a shot and then fled on foot.

"Family members said a man in his 30s called out the businessman's name before he shot him in his left thigh," Cheras police chief Asst Comm Ahmad Amir Mohd Hashim said.

"They rushed out of the house and found the businessman on the ground, crying out in pain. They also saw a man running away from the scene."

He said the 58-year-old businessman was taken to Hospital Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia and that he was in stable condition.

"We are investigating all possible angles, including business rivalry, as the motive," ACP Ahmad Amir said.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

<<<SUCHINDA>>>

09-03-2008, 12:18 AM

New Winds of change are blowing thru Malaysia........hope good things will follow. Good for our neighbours would be good for us too! malaysia boleh! :)

qw2op

09-03-2008, 12:52 AM

New Winds of change are blowing thru Malaysia........hope good things will follow. Good for our neighbours would be good for us too! malaysia boleh! :)

hope dat ze public remain calm ... n ze winners r nt 2 over-enthusiastic in their celebrations ...

Sylar

09-03-2008, 12:36 PM

Johor deserves to be in this sorry state, highest crime rates in the country, yet its people still voted for BN , well u asked for it

birdie8819

11-03-2008, 07:32 PM

Well I just received this email from a friend -

Dunno how true is this true story...

PLASTIC GORENG PISANG WILL MAKE YOU SICK

This is a true story.

Mum said my uncle saw it in Tunjang (Kedah) and the pasar malam in Titi Chai Kangar (Perlis) where goreng pisang was sold on afternoons.

The hawker added a plastic drinking straw into a wok of hot oil and let it melt completely before he started to fry some bananas in the bubbling oil.

This is why some fried bananas and ubi are so crispy... For hours...!!

My uncle asked the hawker about this, but the hawker did not answer him. When my uncle told my mum about this, they realised this is how the hawkers ensure that fried food stays crispy for their customers. My mum said that in Thailand, they do the same thing to keep fried ikan bilis and fried onions crispy, even if left in the open for hours!!

Another time, I was with my family in Cameron Highlands. It was 3:00 PM and we were hanging around the market area, where there were several hawker stalls.

At one of them, there was a big wok of boiling oil with an empty plastic bottle floating in it and slowly melting. At first I thought it had fallen into the oil accidentally, but then I saw a little girl, about 7-years old, holding a pair of chopsticks and stirring the bottle around in the hot oil.

I realised, Oh my God... These people were using melted plastic to fry food, so that the fried snacks would not turn soft when it cooled down later.

Please forward to all your friends... DO NOT EAT CRISPY FRIED SNACKS from the hawkers!! Even if you don't see them melting the plastic in oil, they might have added the plastic a few hours before. After all, they keep the black oil for next day's frying as well, to save cost on cooking oil.

trousers

11-03-2008, 08:39 PM

Well I just received this email from a friend -

Dunno how true is this true story...

PLASTIC GORENG PISANG WILL MAKE YOU SICK

This is a true story.

Mum said my uncle saw it in Tunjang (Kedah) and the pasar malam in Titi Chai Kangar (Perlis) where goreng pisang was sold on afternoons.

The hawker added a plastic drinking straw into a wok of hot oil and let it melt completely before he started to fry some bananas in the bubbling oil.

This is why some fried bananas and ubi are so crispy... For hours...!!

Another time, I was with my family in Cameron Highlands. It was 3:00 PM and we were hanging around the market area, where there were several hawker stalls.

At one of them, there was a big wok of boiling oil with an empty plastic bottle floating in it and slowly melting. At first I thought it had fallen into the oil accidentally, but then I saw a little girl, about 7-years old, holding a pair of chopsticks and stirring the bottle around in the hot oil.

I realised, Oh my God... These people were using melted plastic to fry food, so that the fried snacks would not turn soft when it cooled down later.

This story was going around in Penang a few years back but not with fried bananas.

You know the fried onions they put on top of your fried rice, noodles etc?
Apparently at the fried onion factory - someone also saw plastic being put into the onion mixture.

The producers argued back that - ''Onion so cheap, plastic expensive. Add together my fried onion become expensive la. How to put together?"

Seeing that there are so many witnesses there may be some truth in the plastic fried banana, onion conspiracy. :eek:

<<<SUCHINDA>>>

13-03-2008, 11:09 AM

Yes, I agree with you.

Most of the Johoreans are not that good in the brain department, I guess:D

At least in malaysia its onli the johorians......in SInkeeland its 66.6% :o

RTplayer

13-03-2008, 03:39 PM

Only you know the stats, only you can know.

At least in malaysia its onli the johorians......in SInkeeland its 66.6%

havana

13-03-2008, 10:21 PM

At least in malaysia its onli the johorians......in SInkeeland its 66.6% :o

Yah! the 66.6% includes u:mad:....#@%^$^%&*&^*&(

<<<SUCHINDA>>>

14-03-2008, 02:08 AM

Yah! the 66.6% includes u:mad:....#@%^$^%&*&^*&(

Actually you are quite right.....i am opposition supporter but too bad my side walkover so i guess they include me in the 66.6%.....unfair GRC system :mad:

KatoeyLover69

14-03-2008, 07:58 PM

Report from The STAR dated Friday 14 March 2008 :-

Cops nab suspected JB gang recruiters who waylaid students

JOHOR BARU : Five friends returning after a movie on Sunday were waylaid and asked to join a gang.

However, the 17-year-old students refused and had their mobile phones taken from them.

Two men had approached the teenagers and forced them into a coffeeshop at about 4pm.

One of the victims said they followed the men into the shop as the duo had threatened to beat them up if they did not do as told.

“We were given an hour-long briefing about the importance of joining secret societies,” the victim said, adding that at the end of the session, the men took their mobiles phones and left.

Yesterday, police arrested two people whom they believe were involved in this incident as well as several other similar cases since December.

Parent Goh Pei Ling, 31, said her 13-year-old son was approached by two men outside his school at 6.30am two months ago.

“My son told me that one of them took off with his mobile phone after borrowing it to make a call,” she said, adding that one of the suspects was armed with a knife.

Goh said she made a police report and later sought the assistance of Johor MCA Public Complaints and Services Bureau deputy chief Rodney Soon.

“I have been receiving complaints from the people since last December and all of them point to the same two suspects,” Soon told a press conference yesterday.

Johor Baru (South) OCPD Asst Comm Zainuddin Yaakob urged the public to be cautious when buying second-hand phones.

He also urged those with information to contact the police hotline at 07-2212999.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

TD0620G

14-03-2008, 09:38 PM

Well I just received this email from a friend -

Dunno how true is this true story...

PLASTIC GORENG PISANG WILL MAKE YOU SICK

I don't think it's possible. Nowadays everybody so gullible, so I can also make up a story saying condom also can be reused to fry bananas la!? Next time go to buy fried banana can ask the seller, can u tambah with featherlight ah? :rolleyes:

jesse_voidable

15-03-2008, 02:46 AM

I don't know about fried bananas. But, I've met hawker stall owners who mixed tau huay with plastic and marbles to enhance the flavor :D

birdie8819

15-03-2008, 03:04 PM

I don't think it's possible. Nowadays everybody so gullible, so I can also make up a story saying condom also can be reused to fry bananas la!? Next time go to buy fried banana can ask the seller, can u tambah with featherlight ah?

It's true lah bro please see the news - Hawkers seen mixing melted plastic with goreng pisang (http://wineanddine.asiaone.com/Wine%252CDine%2B%2526%2BUnwind/News/Food%2B%2526%2BWine/Story/A1Story20080313-54189.html)

I don't know about fried bananas. But, I've met hawker stall owners who mixed tau huay with plastic and marbles to enhance the flavor :D

:eek: is that true ????

KatoeyLover69

15-03-2008, 04:27 PM

I don't think it's possible. Nowadays everybody so gullible, so I can also make up a story saying condom also can be reused to fry bananas la!? Next time go to buy fried banana can ask the seller, can u tambah with featherlight ah?

I heard that in China they collect all the 'used' condoms, melt down the rubber and use it to make ladies' head bands :mad:

CuntMan

15-03-2008, 06:49 PM

Reusing the condoms as hair bands have been on going for years, they just merely roll up the cut condoms and it will become like rubber bands, then insert coloured strings and u will get colourpull hair bands. :D

China is really famous for reusing and forging things, lately it's a kind of mince meat they mix up with a kind of ingredients to make steaks apparently expensive japanese or new zealand steaks.

Lucky prc boobies i seen are real ones, seldom encounter fake ones, most of them tell me they were chubby earlier thus havin C and D boobies, and manage to slim down coz they work at factories, and even worst, fields. Pretty ones will be picked or forced to work as FL and then we get our supply of PRC. :D Of course most of them come over willingly to earn our hard earned $$$$$$ but seeing it as a win win situation nobody is complaining rite ? :cool:

KatoeyLover69

04-04-2008, 09:31 PM

Report from The New Paper (S'pore) dated Thursday 3 April 2008 :-

PRC Woman raped by Malaysian Policeman - Holiday horror in KL for women from China

THE three women from China were in Kuala Lumpur for a holiday, but their vacation became a nightmare.

On Tuesday night, one of the women fell to her death while another was allegedly raped by two policemen.

The three women from Hunan province arrived in Malaysia three days ago, reported the New Straits Times.

They stayed at a budget hotel in Jalan Pudu.

That night, two of them went for supper, while the third stayed in the hotel room.

However, at about midnight, the latter fell to her death from the fifth floor of the hotel.

When the other two women returned to the hotel at about 3am, a number of policemen were in the lobby.

The women were unaware that the victim was their friend, so they waited outside the hotel for the police to complete their investigations.

Then, a police patrol car stopped near one of the women. She was allegedly bundled into the car before it drove off.

Alarmed, her friend sought help from a Malaysian friend who had a car.

They tailed the patrol car, but it managed to evade them.

The 42-year-old woman who was abducted claimed that she was taken to a secluded area by the two policemen.

She said she was molested by one of them. The other policeman allegedly ordered her to strip and raped her in the back seat of the patrol car.

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The policemen then allegedly took her handphone and money before sending her back to the hotel at about 4am.

She related her ordeal to her friend and lodged a police report at about 2pm yesterday.

She was later sent to a hospital for a medical examination.

Following police investigations, a constable in his 20s and a lance corporal in his 40s were arrested.

Both suspects are said to be married.

City CID chief Ku Chin Wah confirmed the incident but declined to elaborate as investigations were ongoing.

But city chief police officer Muhamad Sabtu Osman told The Star: 'We are investigating the rape allegation. So far, there is no evidence yet to suggest that she was raped.

'However, we did recover several items which we believe belong to the alleged victim.'

Police are also investigating the other woman's death fall.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

KatoeyLover69

05-04-2008, 11:50 AM

Report from The New Straits Times dated Saturday 5 April 2008 :-

RM120,000 lost to two robbers in JB

JOHOR BARU: A moneychanger lost RM120,000 that he had just withdrawn from a bank in Jalan Wong Ah Fook here to two robbers armed with parang yesterday morning.

Johor Baru (south) police chief Assistant Commissioner Zainuddin Yaacob urged witnesses to contact the Johor police hotline at 07-2212999 or the nearest police station.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

KatoeyLover69

08-04-2008, 04:06 PM

Report from The STAR dated Tuesday 8 April 2008 :-

Johor holds anti-crime operations

JOHOR BARU : Johor police have declared war on illegal racing, gaming machines, drug abuse and other unlawful activities.

“We will go all out to catch the offenders and clean up the state,” Johor police chief Deputy Comm Datuk Mohd Mokhtar Mohd Shariff said at a press conference at the state police contingent here yesterday.

In line with this, a series of police operations against drug-related activities last month led to seizures of an assortment of drugs following the arrest of 362 suspected traffickers.

DCP Mohd Mokhtar said 54 of the suspects were charged for trafficking under Section 39B of the Dangerous Drug Act, which carries the mandatory death penalty on conviction.

Police also picked up 1,994 drug addicts from the streets.

DCP Mohd Mokhtar also said that 1,982 gaming machines were seized and 132 people arrested in 311 operations last month.

DCP Mohd Mokhtar said operations to wipe out such activities in the state would be carried out until Johor was clean of illegal elements.

Meanwhile, police believe they may have cracked many robbery cases, including cargo thefts, with the arrests of three men and seizure of a pistol and 10 rounds of ammunition in Segamat. DCP Mohd Mokhtar said that a patrol car stopped a lorry at 3.15am on Sunday and discovered the pistol and ammunition on the driver.

“All three suspects have criminal records,” he said.

“Initial investigations showed that the suspects had been planning a robbery,” he said.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

KatoeyLover69

08-04-2008, 04:19 PM

Report from The STAR dated Tuesday 8 April 2008 :-

JB gang using women to entice victims smashed

JOHOR BARU : Police here have smashed a robbery gang that uses young women to entice male targets.

The women would talk victims into following them into a back lane of shops where male accomplices would be waiting.

The robbers would then hold their victims at knifepoint and relieve them of their valuables.

Johor CID chief Senior Asst Comm II Amer Awal said the gang’s modus-operandi was uncovered following a report on April 1 where a man reported that he followed a woman to a back lane of some shops in Skudai where three men robbed him of his wallet containing an ATM card and some cash.

“Acting on the report, we arrested a man and two women three days later,” said SAC Amer.

He said follow-up investigations led them to detain another man and the recovery of 31 cell phones of various brands from a telecommunication outlet here.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

KouChiu

08-04-2008, 08:31 PM

Saturday April 5, 2008
We don’t support judge’s khalwat proposal, says Ikim

KUALA LUMPUR: Syariah Court of Appeal Judge Datuk Mohd Asri Abdullah’s statement on the proposal to make non-Muslims found committing khalwat with Muslims liable is not the view of the Institute of Islamic Understanding Malaysia (Ikim), its director-general Dr Syed Ali Tawfik Al-Attas said.

Responding to Mohd Asri’s statement that this was one of the proposals made at a seminar organised by Ikim and the Syariah Judiciary Department Malaysia, Dr Syed Ali said Ikim would never support such a call, as it was impossible to apply Syariah laws to non-Muslims.

Saying that it was erroneous, he said it should not be construed as a stand shared by Ikim.

He said he should have been asked for his opinion by the media as he was the only spokesman of Ikim.

Dr Syed Ali said there was no such proposal nor was the word khalwat used at the seminar but only open discussions by the participants.

He said the judge could have been giving his personal opinion.

“Because of the statement, our close friendship and important association with non-Muslim groups are now in jeopardy,” he said.

The newspaper article, he said, had resulted in Ikim being labelled “crazy Muslims” and fanatical by some people on the Internet. The purpose of the seminar, he said, was because the Syariah court, just like the civil ones, was having a crisis.

He said it was to highlight the judicial crisis, identify and resolve the problems, adding that the statement by Mohd Asri showed there was clearly a judicial crisis.

Dr Syed Ali said khalwat meant that the couple caught committing it should “have no space between them or were joined together” therefore proving khalwat was almost impossible.

“Therefore, this issue of khalwat is not important. What is more important is, we now have judges who are more literal than wise; looking at the letter of the law rather than using their own judgment.

“The purpose of the Ikim seminar is precisely that: to find out where the faults are,” he said.