3 Simple rules for Whoremongers.

[hermine]

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[dartan]

Originally Posted by Balluz

Both sides ain't wrong & certainly a gray-zone.

Never underestimate a man's desire to be viewed as a hero, a provider & so, especially today where most men, including much of us, are so emasculated & soulless that most are confined to working cubicles, forced to abandon their wild desires to go out & chiong at animals that can kill you for a meal, instead only able to "chiong" at WLs in private rooms, sacrificing their next meal even.

How do you expect many of these guys to not be tempted, even i am, at the thought of being able to "贖身" (Redeem) a WL like in those ancient dramas, is undeniably both emotionally and sexually satisfying.

But at them same time, even if you can, are you sure you can keep her happy in every way, especially as mentioned, after she's been in a high libido mode almost daily. She's obviously gonna be in some way addicted to it and you expect her to turn into a virtue housewife right away without addressing that?

Can you, with your 9-5 job outside of the house, keep her sexually satisfied while you work? Of course one can, but are you willing to invest the time & money in say toys & other forms of sexual interaction during work?

Or at home? Are you still expecting her to serve you as usual like a whore while you do your bare minimum like you are still in that private room? I mean most of us know they are just making us feel good by 'cumming'. Are you willing to learn about her actual spots? Tease & treat her right for hours? Even if you don't get to cum/camed, if you are tired from work?

Then it comes to how are you going to deal with her past? Say she still fantasise about it, how are you going to react? Are you gonna make her suppress it? Or are you confident enough to take charge of her fantasises, engage her with it, even RP it without getting mad she's technically getting hot for another guy?

But then, I also think it is not the best way to advise people to just 'treat them as whores', nothing wrong, that is indeed their job, but you are not addressing the core issues of why some men feel that way in the first place.

And while i agree that many WL have a different view on 'love', can we also not pretend that most 'don't have any love' per se? They definitely do have crushes and likings like anyone else, and you can imagine many getting their heart broken when they try to reach out & find out the one they like is 'only just a client' because the guy ignore their private messages, nothing wrong either.

Like i've said it is such a grayzone that no one advice really sticks, it is a case by case basis and even then, unless we truly know what's going on in both the client's & WL's mind and heart, there's no way we can really help, it is 'up to fate' then for them, and their own decisions. Both side's perspectives are equally valid and complex. And personally, I can only wish for such cases to have happy endings.

(I've been forced to shorten my message so many points are missing )

Interesting topic, and very comprehensive post above!

I take a long time to cum .... One time had a long and satisfying bonk with a FL where we called each other "lao gong" and "lao por" (husband and wife in chinese) as part of dirty talking when super high... At the end of the bonk, she jokingly said, "I cannot be your wife, will be very tiring". She said it in jest, but i do see the truth in it also. If i take 45 mins of foreplay/bonking in different positions, and i do it say every other day, I think "normal" women, esp. us guys bonking same woman (e.g. wife), will need some "help" to sustain our momentum/interest, but wives have their own priorities (unlike a WL where sex is their work during the session).

So lesson learnt - some ladies do this as a job and are happy with it, so let's not try to "save" them from our own perspective... we ourselves are the ones that needs... help..

[nohaven]

managed to turn an ml into a FWB but all fuck and nothing else. my message can just be "tonight free?" or "tonight?" no need to pay for anything lmao best part is if i use mp, i only pay entrance fee. if not bring out hotel. ahahahaha

[dragon9000]

hi bros need some suggestions or comments for my case. Read through this chat but situation different

Mine is a ML, very young. 2 months ago I went there first time and got HJ for free. Heard from bros she don’t give HJ to everyone, selective. We changed contact as well. Did tell her I am student (so no money). End up we went out last week, she bought her things she ownself pay. During lunch she wanted to treat but I paid faster. We eat foodcourt somemore. Only red flag is she said she never give number to other bros but some bros I know got her contact.

Anyway, she said said next one is on her. She is 21 and I’m 24. Not sure if she is genuine or trying to carrot me. Any ideas from the bros here?

Funny thing is she also very transparent. She say she will leave Singapore in either 1 or 2 years to study in her own country when she saves enough, may or may not return.

Dunno carrot or want something serious. Worth to be a “friend” instead? Like real friends, not FWB. Take turns treat or AA.

[ByLeft]

Originally Posted by dragon9000

hi bros need some suggestions or comments for my case. Read through this chat but situation different

Mine is a ML, very young. 2 months ago I went there first time and got HJ for free. Heard from bros she don’t give HJ to everyone, selective. We changed contact as well. Did tell her I am student (so no money). End up we went out last week, she bought her things she ownself pay. During lunch she wanted to treat but I paid faster. We eat foodcourt somemore. Only red flag is she said she never give number to other bros but some bros I know got her contact.

Anyway, she said said next one is on her. She is 21 and I’m 24. Not sure if she is genuine or trying to carrot me. Any ideas from the bros here?

Funny thing is she also very transparent. She say she will leave Singapore in either 1 or 2 years to study in her own country when she saves enough, may or may not return.

Dunno carrot or want something serious. Worth to be a “friend” instead? Like real friends, not FWB. Take turns treat or AA.

Bro you're young at 24 and a uni student, why are you playing KC in the ML scene?

You have your whole world ahead of you man, get out and have relationship with real girls.

Even relationship with real girls are hard enough, will also have money problems etc. Dating a working lady many times worst, first of all the distance after she return, just think about how you gonna maintain LDR. Then of course money issue, they're here for the money, you can satisfied her money wise anot? There's many rich uncles playing in the ML scene and the hard truth is money talks, she will choose money over you.

Lastly, you are not the only one but just one of the bros that she's good with. This one is 100000% confirm one, i dated a few ML/FL before and can only say play play is alright but you have to have the heart to drop her when red flags start coming out and believe me, it will.

[dragon9000]

Originally Posted by ByLeft

Bro you're young at 24 and a uni student, why are you playing KC in the ML scene?

You have your whole world ahead of you man, get out and have relationship with real girls.

Even relationship with real girls are hard enough, will also have money problems etc. Dating a working lady many times worst, first of all the distance after she return, just think about how you gonna maintain LDR. Then of course money issue, they're here for the money, you can satisfied her money wise anot? There's many rich uncles playing in the ML scene and the hard truth is money talks, she will choose money over you.

Lastly, you are not the only one but just one of the bros that she's good with. This one is 100000% confirm one, i dated a few ML/FL before and can only say play play is alright but you have to have the heart to drop her when red flags start coming out and believe me, it will.

Thanks brother for the advise. I of course won’t have long term plan also, just thinking whether should be a friend (platonic) now. Haha.

[ByLeft]

Originally Posted by dragon9000

Thanks brother for the advise. I of course won’t have long term plan also, just thinking whether should be a friend (platonic) now. Haha.

Being friends alright for sure but only scared you go deeper as times pass by.

I had friend who kena gongtao by thai girl from siamdiu when in his early 20s like you. The girl know he no money and at first everything lovely dovey, then start to ask for monthly stipend saying need support family and if no money have to fuck other guys all this, the girl eventually got pregnant and kena bao by a rich uncle. Bro you see before a grown man crying like a motherfucker infront of you?

These girls are human also and wouldnt mind a companion as they work here to get out of a rut of entertaining uncles, especially so that both of you quite close in age. But remember to always protect your own wallet and heart. Think about it, it's just the beginning and you starting to overthink, if you get serious you're in for a ride.

All the best!

[dragon9000]

Originally Posted by ByLeft

Being friends alright for sure but only scared you go deeper as times pass by.

I had friend who kena gongtao by thai girl from siamdiu when in his early 20s like you. The girl know he no money and at first everything lovely dovey, then start to ask for monthly stipend saying need support family and if no money have to fuck other guys all this, the girl eventually got pregnant and kena bao by a rich uncle. Bro you see before a grown man crying like a motherfucker infront of you?

These girls are human also and wouldnt mind a companion as they work here to get out of a rut of entertaining uncles, especially so that both of you quite close in age. But remember to always protect your own wallet and heart. Think about it, it's just the beginning and you starting to overthink, if you get serious you're in for a ride.

All the best!

Thanks bro!! Will remember

[dragon9000]

Originally Posted by ByLeft

Bro you're young at 24 and a uni student, why are you playing KC in the ML scene?

You have your whole world ahead of you man, get out and have relationship with real girls.

Even relationship with real girls are hard enough, will also have money problems etc. Dating a working lady many times worst, first of all the distance after she return, just think about how you gonna maintain LDR. Then of course money issue, they're here for the money, you can satisfied her money wise anot? There's many rich uncles playing in the ML scene and the hard truth is money talks, she will choose money over you.

Lastly, you are not the only one but just one of the bros that she's good with. This one is 100000% confirm one, i dated a few ML/FL before and can only say play play is alright but you have to have the heart to drop her when red flags start coming out and believe me, it will.

Bro can share some red flags to look out for? Fast forward, went on another 2 dates with her. Without asking, she auto paynow me half the date expenses. I shock also.

Really dunno genuine or want to carrot.

Only issue or uncomfortable thing is she will show some other customer message to me, which I find it uncomfortable.

Occasionally I drop by her shop, we will go toilet nearby to make out for a good 10-15 minute before she go back. Don’t think will do this with other customer right.

[ByLeft]

Originally Posted by dragon9000

Bro can share some red flags to look out for? Fast forward, went on another 2 dates with her. Without asking, she auto paynow me half the date expenses. I shock also.

Really dunno genuine or want to carrot.

Only issue or uncomfortable thing is she will show some other customer message to me, which I find it uncomfortable.

Occasionally I drop by her shop, we will go toilet nearby to make out for a good 10-15 minute before she go back. Don’t think will do this with other customer right.

I dont think she wants to carrot you for now since she know you no money as you still a student.

It could be genuine as mentioned before that she's looking for a companion or some fun outside of her job. Maybe you will become FWB with her if carry on, why not? Hahah but it seems you really falling for her.

But as many other bros said, once the big fish comes you will be ignored cause she will have her commitments she need to pay off back in her hometown. She need money thats why in this line and if you cant provide then others will, she may still keep you around for some fun though.

But bro really, you need to think if you got the strong heart to have relationship with them. Looking at the texts of other customer is part of it cause there's nothing much else going on in their life right now.

If you feel uncomfortable then it will be tough for you. The bro in the other thread said it the best, just enjoy the moment and not think too much.

In the past when i dated MLs, i will auto ask about their customers to let her vent out about their work, just like sometimes we need an outlet to vent out about our jobs also.

[dragon9000]

Originally Posted by ByLeft

I dont think she wants to carrot you for now since she know you no money as you still a student.

It could be genuine as mentioned before that she's looking for a companion or some fun outside of her job. Maybe you will become FWB with her if carry on, why not? Hahah but it seems you really falling for her.

But as many other bros said, once the big fish comes you will be ignored cause she will have her commitments she need to pay off back in her hometown. She need money thats why in this line and if you cant provide then others will, she may still keep you around for some fun though.

But bro really, you need to think if you got the strong heart to have relationship with them. Looking at the texts of other customer is part of it cause there's nothing much else going on in their life right now.

If you feel uncomfortable then it will be tough for you. The bro in the other thread said it the best, just enjoy the moment and not think too much.

In the past when i dated MLs, i will auto ask about their customers to let her vent out about their work, just like sometimes we need an outlet to vent out about our jobs also.

Can bro hahaha. A lot of bros give many good and experienced advise.

But she quite lucky. She said she got no financial commitment or burden. Everytime I ask her save money, she say, for what? Cause her family not around already, so she just keep for herself. In the future she want to study that’s all haha.

Next time I’ll find out why she in this trade.

[ByLeft]

Originally Posted by dragon9000

Can bro hahaha. A lot of bros give many good and experienced advise.

But she quite lucky. She said she got no financial commitment or burden. Everytime I ask her save money, she say, for what? Cause her family not around already, so she just keep for herself. In the future she want to study that’s all haha.

Next time I’ll find out why she in this trade.

I think she's a vietbu right bro?

Can she speak decent eng or mandarin? Or are you willing to learn viet?

I think one thing you have to consider is whether you and her really click anot, most of the time it's only lust.

Best is to be fwb with her, that way you keep your choices open also. Remember another bro mention about mindset, once you start to be possessive and want to be the "only one" then you will really overthink a lot.

[dragon9000]

Originally Posted by ByLeft

I think she's a vietbu right bro?

Can she speak decent eng or mandarin? Or are you willing to learn viet?

I think one thing you have to consider is whether you and her really click anot, most of the time it's only lust.

Best is to be fwb with her, that way you keep your choices open also. Remember another bro mention about mindset, once you start to be possessive and want to be the "only one" then you will really overthink a lot.

I will make a bad FWB hahaa. I PE, below 1 minute. She cannot speak Chinese. English very bad also. Not Viet.

[ByLeft]

Originally Posted by dragon9000

I will make a bad FWB hahaa. I PE, below 1 minute. She cannot speak Chinese. English very bad also. Not Viet.

Maybe you just not much experience yet and it could improve overtime. If not then can try kegels or edging when you pcc, it may help to improve.

Oh then eventually one of you have to step up ba, either she improve her english or you learn her language. It will make it easier if you really serious about it.

[LauAdi]

Originally Posted by dragon9000

I will make a bad FWB hahaa. I PE, below 1 minute. She cannot speak Chinese. English very bad also. Not Viet.

Got follow up?
Uncle give you advice.
Even the ML I click most with I also keep a distance.
She showed me all her real info and family, her fiance.
When I don’t have money, she even sponsored everything even entrance fee. After going home to take wedding pics with her fiance, she come back to ask me to raw and cip her.
But you know why she can do and did that?
Cos she was lonely…and she was earning enough from other bros.
This kind of dream will end (mine returned home already), yours will too.

Transaction is transaction, you’re only 25 this year, don’t waste your KC on her.