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Old 05-07-2026, 10:01 PM
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Re: Love or KC

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Try to go further, i don't see why not with both willing parties, you got nothing to lose. Surely if theres love there should be desire from her right? If later on starts to demand more and more money then u know its not real already. You dont really lose anything except knowing the truth and potentially ur heart break. Just don't spend or commit unnecessarily especially when the relationship is not confirmed.
The problem is that if the girl KC power, when her sob story come out... some guys wallets auto open. You tell them don't be stupid they will say I trust her.

Some men brain cannot train one. My friend is like that, kena 3 times by 3 different girl. Every time after kena, he cry, smoke, drink... then swear he don't believe any Viet girl anymore. But 3 months later, after taste new Viet pussy and KC game, same old shit again.
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Old 06-07-2026, 08:26 AM
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The problem is that if the girl KC power, when her sob story come out... some guys wallets auto open. You tell them don't be stupid they will say I trust her.

Some men brain cannot train one. My friend is like that, kena 3 times by 3 different girl. Every time after kena, he cry, smoke, drink... then swear he don't believe any Viet girl anymore. But 3 months later, after taste new Viet pussy and KC game, same old shit again.
Because in this guy's case if hes not lying or leaving out certain info, he stopped visiting and just hang out after work. Everyday abit extreme but yeah. Now its just get to a stage where he can piak regularly can liao. Every1 has desires and if its real no doubt she wants it. If no desire its not liao and i dont even wanna think about RS with no desire, thats just me.

Hotel and food money sure and thats it. Once branded goods come into play you know for a fact its fake. If MLs or any girl truly want u, they will help u save money. If they want u to spend just fk off and ask her look for another guy liao.

But i get you. Many guys have no self control. Quoting hundreds or thousands to try "unlock" is actually common question for basic MLs.
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Old 06-07-2026, 05:35 PM
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Re: Love or KC

Thanks for the feedback guys, this kind of rs problem really sucks, especially if you dont whether its a true feeling or just some expertly disguised KC.

Updates from previous entry:

-i dont buy any thing branded for her. But i have gotten a few food for her during lunch (grab)
-she claims she dont provide fj, even with me she said she wants to wait until marriage.
-she is thinking of retiring, and gg back vietnam. She says she wants to try LDR
-we are planning a trip, i'm expected to take care of the hotel and other expenses. But she takes care of her own plane ticket.

I know viet culture more traditional i.e. expects guys to pay rather than AA like many SG girls.

I feel like i'm being friendzoned by her
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Old 06-07-2026, 10:56 PM
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Re: Love or KC

I can see you don't interact with many girls. Unless that girl is a virgin she is just gaslighting you by saying she wants to wait till marriage! Probably just wants you to pay more to unlock FJ DLC!

You money your choice. I would pay just to fuck her but I won't wife her.
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Old 07-07-2026, 02:42 AM
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Re: Love or KC

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Thanks for the feedback guys, this kind of rs problem really sucks, especially if you dont whether its a true feeling or just some expertly disguised KC.

Updates from previous entry:

-i dont buy any thing branded for her. But i have gotten a few food for her during lunch (grab)
-she claims she dont provide fj, even with me she said she wants to wait until marriage.
-she is thinking of retiring, and gg back vietnam. She says she wants to try LDR
-we are planning a trip, i'm expected to take care of the hotel and other expenses. But she takes care of her own plane ticket.

I know viet culture more traditional i.e. expects guys to pay rather than AA like many SG girls.

I feel like i'm being friendzoned by her
So she want to marry you or she want to friendzone you? Haha quite contradict leh
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Old 07-07-2026, 11:38 AM
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Re: Love or KC

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-i dont buy any thing branded for her. But i have gotten a few food for her during lunch (grab)
-she claims she dont provide fj, even with me she said she wants to wait until marriage.
-she is thinking of retiring, and gg back vietnam. She says she wants to try LDR
-we are planning a trip, i'm expected to take care of the hotel and other expenses. But she takes care of her own plane ticket.
to me i get the vibes that she's married in viet or some thing? thats why the "no fj". probably trying to KC you LDR. after that tell you she never work no money, ask you for some money every here and there, parent sick, cow sick, buffalo sick.

then any money you give used to spend money on potential already existent kid/husband/bf or used to sustain her lifestyle

im sure alot of bros have heard of/seen similar stories
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Old 15-07-2026, 10:43 PM
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Re: Love or KC

牛头不对马嘴.. Try harder la nnkc. Lol
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Old 18-07-2026, 02:01 PM
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Old 21-07-2026, 12:16 PM
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Re: Love or KC

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A throwaway account obviously.

Recently i got hooked on a very young ML from VN. She said she developed feelings for me. She claims she dont do anything more than HJ, roaming only 4G. She said she usually receives above average tips (some even low 4digits) but she ok with me tipping under below average.

I stopped finding her at her shop. Instead she meets me every night where i treat her coffeeshop BCM and BBT, then we hang and talk for several hours. Sometimes she offers to treat me.

On her day off, she went out with me. I took care of the meals, most ex is $60. We took bus and train (i paid) she doesnt seem to mind. When we went to a hotel, she doesnt want to FJ or BJ, but she willing to HJ me and let me grind her and kiss her. No tip was even requested. When she saw a handbag about $30, she paid for herself. She is looks a little upset so i reimbursed her the when we left the shop.

Idk if she is seriously falling for me or its just another KC trap.

she is laying a very dangerous KC Trap for you. she sensed that you are venerable and basically stringing you along and making you go thru a roller coaster of emotions. if you want to really test her, fuck her without paying and make her pay for the hotel. if not, just say no money. if she can tahan this over a long period of time, then maybe she really love you. but if she cannot sustain, at least u did not get used by her and your ego is not hurt
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Old 23-07-2026, 12:46 AM
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Re: Love or KC

Just go with the flow , maybe she is truly in to you. ML are human too.
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Old 25-07-2026, 06:06 PM
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Re: Love or KC

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A throwaway account obviously.

Recently i got hooked on a very young ML from VN. She said she developed feelings for me. She claims she dont do anything more than HJ, roaming only 4G. She said she usually receives above average tips (some even low 4digits) but she ok with me tipping under below average.

I stopped finding her at her shop. Instead she meets me every night where i treat her coffeeshop BCM and BBT, then we hang and talk for several hours. Sometimes she offers to treat me.

On her day off, she went out with me. I took care of the meals, most ex is $60. We took bus and train (i paid) she doesnt seem to mind. When we went to a hotel, she doesnt want to FJ or BJ, but she willing to HJ me and let me grind her and kiss her. No tip was even requested. When she saw a handbag about $30, she paid for herself. She is looks a little upset so i reimbursed her the when we left the shop.

Idk if she is seriously falling for me or its just another KC trap.
Looks like another pig butchering strategy used by Vietcongs as I've mentioned before. Once you are not careful, you will be siphoned dry to feed her whole village without you realizing WTF has happened LOL.

Regardless of whether the ML claims to 'I do HJ only ok, no FJ/BJ, very clean one' is just a different variation of the same kind, because in the ML line, there is no such as thing as 'I only do HJ only', once the price is right, everything also goes, including raw/CIP and even anal, those who encounter before will know - first few times act virgin say don't do this or that, then slowly later suddenly heard she starts to open up already bo bian else tan bo jiak LOL.

As mentioned before, regardless of ML/FL/WLs, once they get into the Cheekon line and after being farked by their first customer, analogically their DNA will start to mutate and transform into a different Species like this...

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Re: Love or KC

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Looks like another pig butchering strategy used by Vietcongs as I've mentioned before. Once you are not careful, you will be siphoned dry to feed her whole village without you realizing WTF has happened LOL.

Regardless of whether the ML claims to 'I do HJ only ok, no FJ/BJ, very clean one' is just a different variation of the same kind, because in the ML line, there is no such as thing as 'I only do HJ only', once the price is right, everything also goes, including raw/CIP and even anal, those who encounter before will know - first few times act virgin say don't do this or that, then slowly later suddenly heard she starts to open up already bo bian else tan bo jiak LOL.

As mentioned before, regardless of ML/FL/WLs, once they get into the Cheekon line and after being farked by their first customer, analogically their DNA will start to mutate and transform into a different Species like this...

LOL bro topper with his golden words again! Here's another for you https://sbfonline.site/showthread.php?t=1129256

I fully agree that once they in this line, their DNA will change cause they really seen too much. There's a PRC ML who told me that she doesn't believe in true love anymore and every relationship are transactional and even if she really like someone, it will just be for a season aka 都只是新鲜感.

She said that guys in china can drop 100k+ RMB on cars but not willing to drop the same amount on dowry so she prefer singaporean as we're more gentle and gullible. She said she only want either rich guy or if the guy really handsome cause she believe every guy will call chicken behind their girl and are 渣男. So why not find a rich one so she can bluff the money so that she won't be left with nothing at the end like if she were to be with a china guy. Or at least if the guy is handsome, she see already shiok and happy also even if it's not forever she would have enjoyed it.
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LOL bro topper with his golden words again! Here's another for you https://sbfonline.site/showthread.php?t=1129256
That one ah 没救了, he is so green to cheonging sure kernah eaten alive for breakfast, so nothing much to advise LOL.
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Re: Love or KC

I don’t agree with bros thar tell u to test the ml feelings by being as asshole. Even normal girls will run far away from u if u start behaving like a stingy petty man, let alone a ml.

But the fact that she doesn’t have sex with u is a red flag. That means she doesn’t desire and want u enough. This kind wont end well.

But she seems to spend an inordinate amount of time with u freely. That’s a good sign. Free time for ml is precious for them. If u truly enjoy being with her, just treasure the present time and don’t have any expectations of any future with her.

I know a ml quite well and have witnessed how she plays with her clients and exes. Most of these ml just sees guys as assets or investment that they want to extract something from, be it money, favours or companionship. They manage us like we mange our stock investments
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Re: Love or KC

Hi Bro, play can, don't go beyond the point of no return. Not that every girls put the KC traps but we never know who does put and who doesn't.

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