What is the endgame?

[ConfusedCow]

Disclaimer: I am sadly super new to the "chionging" scene (she was literally the 2nd WL I'd ever patronised), but I've read a few KC threads la

- Met B via a tele stable, will spare y'all the details but I loved it and RTF 3 times (she speaks pretty good English and Chinese)
- 2nd and 3rd times she initiated having dinner after the deed since there was still time until the next booking (many food options just downstairs) and she paid!
- After the 2nd time she asked for my FB and then we started chitchatting there
- She was leaving SG at the end of last month so I thought I ask her for a final fling on her off day. She agreed and even let me spend the night in her hotel (I only paid for dinner)
- She started working in JB and I kept asking how I could book her but she claimed she didn't know, will find out etc
- Finally she admitted (after I asked her) that she didn't want to see me as a customer anymore, asked to meet on her off days instead (at that point I was still willing to pay to see her but of course I accepted this offer instead)
- So I've gone overnight thrice and she's still as freaky in bed (except now I know her real name and some other private details, incl. about her family and ex-boyfriends) I'm definitely enjoying whatever this is more than when I was "just a customer" (she even tells me about her customers sometimes and how some of them asked her out but she declined)
- So far the only time $$$ threatened to ruin things was when I followed her to the salon and the bill cost a bomb (1888 ringgit wtf... scammy add-ons) and her card didn't work so she asked if I could foot it... I laughed nervously and said I wasn't expecting this and tried to change the subject but then she looked upset so I relented - back at the hotel she paid me back in cash (I wasn't expecting that), she was about 200 ringgit short but whatevs better than nothing

When we met in SG I never expected things to go so far, and now I'm still leaning towards this being some kind of long con (although I've spent far less on "this" than in the bookings last time combined). B's been in the game for 4 years (according to her) whereas I'm a real noob. Another thing is that when she texts it's really inconsistent, most of the week she'll go MIA for the whole day and not say more than "still working", "good night" and "so tired" (fair enough but does it really take that much effort to type more than one line each time), but sometimes she'll be gushing about this and that (mood swings?!).

Then again we've shared moments irl that I think were genuinely intimate so I think I'd still be heartbroken if (or when) it does end.

Anyway today was her last day in M'sia but she said she'd come back "soon". Should I hold my breath? What do you all think she really wants? Do you all have similar stories?

[ByLeft]

Originally Posted by ConfusedCow

Disclaimer: I am sadly super new to the "chionging" scene (she was literally the 2nd WL I'd ever patronised), but I've read a few KC threads la

- Met B via a tele stable, will spare y'all the details but I loved it and RTF 3 times (she speaks pretty good English and Chinese)
- 2nd and 3rd times she initiated having dinner after the deed since there was still time until the next booking (many food options just downstairs) and she paid!
- After the 2nd time she asked for my FB and then we started chitchatting there
- She was leaving SG at the end of last month so I thought I ask her for a final fling on her off day. She agreed and even let me spend the night in her hotel (I only paid for dinner)
- She started working in JB and I kept asking how I could book her but she claimed she didn't know, will find out etc
- Finally she admitted (after I asked her) that she didn't want to see me as a customer anymore, asked to meet on her off days instead (at that point I was still willing to pay to see her but of course I accepted this offer instead)
- So I've gone overnight thrice and she's still as freaky in bed (except now I know her real name and some other private details, incl. about her family and ex-boyfriends) I'm definitely enjoying whatever this is more than when I was "just a customer" (she even tells me about her customers sometimes and how some of them asked her out but she declined)
- So far the only time $$$ threatened to ruin things was when I followed her to the salon and the bill cost a bomb (1888 ringgit wtf... scammy add-ons) and her card didn't work so she asked if I could foot it... I laughed nervously and said I wasn't expecting this and tried to change the subject but then she looked upset so I relented - back at the hotel she paid me back in cash (I wasn't expecting that), she was about 200 ringgit short but whatevs better than nothing

When we met in SG I never expected things to go so far, and now I'm still leaning towards this being some kind of long con (although I've spent far less on "this" than in the bookings last time combined). B's been in the game for 4 years (according to her) whereas I'm a real noob. Another thing is that when she texts it's really inconsistent, most of the week she'll go MIA for the whole day and not say more than "still working", "good night" and "so tired" (fair enough but does it really take that much effort to type more than one line each time), but sometimes she'll be gushing about this and that (mood swings?!).

Then again we've shared moments irl that I think were genuinely intimate so I think I'd still be heartbroken if (or when) it does end.

Anyway today was her last day in M'sia but she said she'd come back "soon". Should I hold my breath? What do you all think she really wants? Do you all have similar stories?

Best is to just stay as it is, get whatever free stuffs or extra gfe.

She may really likes you, they're humans after all. But don't ever believe that she only go out with you and not others, she can treat others as the cashcow and still give raw of whatever.

Like you said, what's the end game? You want to marry her? Your salary enough to support her anot? She able to find normal work in SG in the future? Your money alone enough to buy house all this?

Also she may still keep in contact with her other customers behind your back and still fuck them for money.

Unless you rich la and really can solve all her money problems. But if you rich and young (you sound young), why not find normal girl to date?

The sex is good with working girls and this is what we go for. If can get free stuffs from them even better but you have to know when to drop her. Play within your means and if you starting to get uncomfortable like when she ask you to pay for the 1k+ rm, i know she pay most of it back but you need to set a threshold on what you can afford to lose when shit goes down.

[ConfusedCow]

Originally Posted by ByLeft

Best is to just stay as it is, get whatever free stuffs or extra gfe.

She may really likes you, they're humans after all. But don't ever believe that she only go out with you and not others, she can treat others as the cashcow and still give raw of whatever.

Like you said, what's the end game? You want to marry her? Your salary enough to support her anot? She able to find normal work in SG in the future? Your money alone enough to buy house all this?

Also she may still keep in contact with her other customers behind your back and still fuck them for money.

Unless you rich la and really can solve all her money problems. But if you rich and young (you sound young), why not find normal girl to date?

The sex is good with working girls and this is what we go for. If can get free stuffs from them even better but you have to know when to drop her. Play within your means and if you starting to get uncomfortable like when she ask you to pay for the 1k+ rm, i know she pay most of it back but you need to set a threshold on what you can afford to lose when shit goes down.

I'm 25 and she's a year younger.... Honestly the first time I tried that tele stuff after lurking for so long I was just bored and curious, but the experience wasn't great because that girl didn't speak a word of English. So I left but a month later I thought I'd give it another shot — lo and behold there was B's profile and she was really my "type" (I've been with a few "normal" girls but nothing about them excited me quite like B did), sexy, witty and *strong*.

Oddly enough she even said "sorry for making you feel uncomfortable" before repaying me (I guess I must have looked uncomfortable because I didn't *say* anything).

I don't know about the long term, haven't had the chance to discuss that with her (not sure if she'd be open) but I was mainly curious about the fact that she didn't want me to be a paying customer anymore (why?). I wouldn't be surprised if she's seeing other people (she tells me about some of her "crazy" repeat customers, including one married man who booked multiple overnights), but she must be good at covering her tracks if so because whenever we're together she'll show me her photos/messages (and is it normal for them to divulge so much personal info, she's even show me pics of her and her parents). Anyway thanks for reading my post. I don't know when I'll see her again but I strangely have no desire to seek out more WLs (is she still one to me since she refuses to let me book? &#129315 for the time being (haven't even feasted my eyes on online XXX material since I met her!).

[ByLeft]

Originally Posted by ConfusedCow

I'm 25 and she's a year younger.... Honestly the first time I tried that tele stuff after lurking for so long I was just bored and curious, but the experience wasn't great because that girl didn't speak a word of English. So I left but a month later I thought I'd give it another shot — lo and behold there was B's profile and she was really my "type" (I've been with a few "normal" girls but nothing about them excited me quite like B did), sexy, witty and *strong*.

Oddly enough she even said "sorry for making you feel uncomfortable" before repaying me (I guess I must have looked uncomfortable because I didn't *say* anything).

I don't know about the long term, haven't had the chance to discuss that with her (not sure if she'd be open) but I was mainly curious about the fact that she didn't want me to be a paying customer anymore (why?). I wouldn't be surprised if she's seeing other people (she tells me about some of her "crazy" repeat customers, including one married man who booked multiple overnights), but she must be good at covering her tracks if so because whenever we're together she'll show me her photos/messages (and is it normal for them to divulge so much personal info, she's even show me pics of her and her parents). Anyway thanks for reading my post. I don't know when I'll see her again but I strangely have no desire to seek out more WLs (is she still one to me since she refuses to let me book? ��) for the time being (haven't even feasted my eyes on online XXX material since I met her!).

Depends if you want YOLO anot, every relationship need money to maintain. No matter normal girls or working girls but it's gonna be tougher when your spouse is foreigner. You can go read about HDB rules and the restrictions you will face. Of course if you have money for resale or condo then no problem, at the end it will be about money no matter normal girl or working girl. If just be FWB and play play then it's fine, just enjoy but protect your heart also.

If you got into relationship with her, she still have to continue working as FL unless you give her monthly stipends. Depends on her appetite and the amount you can give, that's why she may still meet her regular customer behind you for money.

There's many reasons that she may give you free fuck like maybe trying to hook for bigger things or she does likes you. Like i said it's possible la, many bros got free fucks from working girls for various reasons. I even heard before a PRC FL give free fuck for guys with 6 packs just because she loves it. They service so many old uncles or BBFA, sometimes a similar age or fit guy can help get them out of a rut.

To me its a number game, like maybe we find new girls once a week and over the year there will be a few that can really click well. But for the working girls maybe one or two week they already have more new guys then we have in a year, there will be other guys that she quite like as well or big fish throwing money at her.

She's probably viet or thai right? Your parents open minded anot? Of course wont tell parents she's a FL but it's a stereotype mindset many have. My friend wanted to marry a thai girl from siamdiu, obviously he did not tell his parents that he met her in siamdiu but his parents are old fashion type and doesn't approve, he fell out with his parents due to her. In the end the girl got pregnant and left him for a richer guy.

Oh and by the way, she may not really be 24. It's not uncommon to at least add a few years for D1 thais or D3 viets. And also not uncommon for them to have children back home already.

[qwef123]

Don’t waste time, money and effort. You want to know how she really feels then just say you got money issues and hold back on spending (partially) to look at her reaction. Free sex sounds very good and all with the kinkiness, even if you are not paying for the sex you are paying for other things.

Ask yourself, if you are in a relationship with a girl today, if she knows the bill will be 1888, will she still want to go? The red flag imo is that she may or may not have the money to go but she still went ahead and expected you to pay, it should most likely be the case that she knows the price up front before committing to anything.

[lajilover]

Hi bro,

she maybe 24 yrs old but have been in the FL field maybe since 18 yrs old. she has a lot of experience on playing with men. sex and looks are her main weapon.

Maybe she feels for you really, but there's a high risk.. high probability she is milking your emotions for a " big plan" down the road.
take note of raw and allowed creampies, cos once she wishes to lock u down, the pregnancy scare will come.

take care bro, 25 yrs old is still very young and enjoy more pussies for at least the next 10 years !

[cbkia222]

Originally Posted by ConfusedCow

Disclaimer: I am sadly super new to the "chionging" scene (she was literally the 2nd WL I'd ever patronised), but I've read a few KC threads la

- Met B via a tele stable, will spare y'all the details but I loved it and RTF 3 times (she speaks pretty good English and Chinese)
- 2nd and 3rd times she initiated having dinner after the deed since there was still time until the next booking (many food options just downstairs) and she paid!
- After the 2nd time she asked for my FB and then we started chitchatting there
- She was leaving SG at the end of last month so I thought I ask her for a final fling on her off day. She agreed and even let me spend the night in her hotel (I only paid for dinner)
- She started working in JB and I kept asking how I could book her but she claimed she didn't know, will find out etc
- Finally she admitted (after I asked her) that she didn't want to see me as a customer anymore, asked to meet on her off days instead (at that point I was still willing to pay to see her but of course I accepted this offer instead)
- So I've gone overnight thrice and she's still as freaky in bed (except now I know her real name and some other private details, incl. about her family and ex-boyfriends) I'm definitely enjoying whatever this is more than when I was "just a customer" (she even tells me about her customers sometimes and how some of them asked her out but she declined)
- So far the only time $$$ threatened to ruin things was when I followed her to the salon and the bill cost a bomb (1888 ringgit wtf... scammy add-ons) and her card didn't work so she asked if I could foot it... I laughed nervously and said I wasn't expecting this and tried to change the subject but then she looked upset so I relented - back at the hotel she paid me back in cash (I wasn't expecting that), she was about 200 ringgit short but whatevs better than nothing

When we met in SG I never expected things to go so far, and now I'm still leaning towards this being some kind of long con (although I've spent far less on "this" than in the bookings last time combined). B's been in the game for 4 years (according to her) whereas I'm a real noob. Another thing is that when she texts it's really inconsistent, most of the week she'll go MIA for the whole day and not say more than "still working", "good night" and "so tired" (fair enough but does it really take that much effort to type more than one line each time), but sometimes she'll be gushing about this and that (mood swings?!).

Then again we've shared moments irl that I think were genuinely intimate so I think I'd still be heartbroken if (or when) it does end.

Anyway today was her last day in M'sia but she said she'd come back "soon". Should I hold my breath? What do you all think she really wants? Do you all have similar stories?

you sound sad, chin up .. you're young . u just need another pussy to fill the gap . go into one of the domes, find a nice replacement girl to have fun with and repeat the process. all the best!

[demonhunter]

Shes a whore . The only End Game is END this Game .

Imagine your Buddies might have up her before .....maybe your father also came inside her before . ... . WTF are you even thinking ??

A whore is for fucking only , similar to a public toilet . Pee , shit and off you go.

Next person will enter the cubicle. and on and on .

A girlfriend / wife is exclusive .... Just like a car . Buy brand new or used with lowest mileage and ownership.

[gerber88]

Originally Posted by demonhunter

Shes a whore . The only End Game is END this Game .

Imagine your Buddies might have up her before .....maybe your father also came inside her before . ... . WTF are you even thinking ??

A whore is for fucking only , similar to a public toilet . Pee , shit and off you go.

Next person will enter the cubicle. and on and on .

A girlfriend / wife is exclusive .... Just like a car . Buy brand new or used with lowest mileage and ownership.

Dam brutal but its the truth!!

[stanleyxinu]

Sorry to sound crude. You need to have an upper hand in all these encounters. Fuck and forget. Search. Fuck and forget. Repeat until you retire from this scene. You can’t do it? Close your eyes and imagine the number of guys who have fucked them, scrutinize every part of her body, do unimaginable things to her. These ladies are for fucking. 99% are heartless. Money means everything to them when they are here.

[stanleyxinu]

You nailed it. Can’t be more explicit.

Originally Posted by demonhunter

Shes a whore . The only End Game is END this Game .

Imagine your Buddies might have up her before .....maybe your father also came inside her before . ... . WTF are you even thinking ??

A whore is for fucking only , similar to a public toilet . Pee , shit and off you go.

Next person will enter the cubicle. and on and on .

A girlfriend / wife is exclusive .... Just like a car . Buy brand new or used with lowest mileage and ownership.

[javier001]

Originally Posted by stanleyxinu

Sorry to sound crude. You need to have an upper hand in all these encounters. Fuck and forget. Search. Fuck and forget. Repeat until you retire from this scene. You can’t do it? Close your eyes and imagine the number of guys who have fucked them, scrutinize every part of her body, do unimaginable things to her. These ladies are for fucking. 99% are heartless. Money means everything to them when they are here.

F&F: Fuck and Forget, wise words to live by when dealing with WLs..

[stanleyxinu]

Yes. Learnt from the forum boss this mantra. Lived longer. Hurt lesser.

Originally Posted by javier001

F&F: Fuck and Forget, wise words to live by when dealing with WLs..

[Josepere]

Originally Posted by stanleyxinu

Sorry to sound crude. You need to have an upper hand in all these encounters. Fuck and forget. Search. Fuck and forget. Repeat until you retire from this scene. You can’t do it? Close your eyes and imagine the number of guys who have fucked them, scrutinize every part of her body, do unimaginable things to her. These ladies are for fucking. 99% are heartless. Money means everything to them when they are here.

Wise words from a wise bro!!!

there will always be a " next girl". so dont worry!

[stanleyxinu]

Thanks to forum boss’ sharings.

Originally Posted by Josepere

Wise words from a wise bro!!!

there will always be a " next girl". so dont worry!