from F##k Service to Friendship, Possible ?

[yellownelly]

Originally Posted by happytree123

The 5 words very dangerous one, machiam like hallucination love potion.

Thanks bro. At the back of my mind and in in my brain, I know these as I have been lurking and reading quietly. How do you suggest that I extricate myself? the cruel but fast一刀两断 method which is painful or how to change my mindset slowly to "gracefully" exit.

[yellownelly]

Originally Posted by Dignified69

These relationships are inherently extremely challenging and difficult for 2 reasons

1. WE meet one gal in a day and she makes us feel good so have positive feeling
2. She meet 10 boy boy. All fuck her. How good can she feel

She come with the explicit aim of making money ....

When she is 'your gal' and then another bro is going into the room with her, then what it will do to your brain you have to experience to truly know

thanks bro, mind becomes more messed up when I read the glowing FRs from the forum. really messed up my mind. maybe ending this "relationship" earlyis healthier for me.

[Matman36]

Originally Posted by Dignified69

These relationships are inherently extremely challenging and difficult for 2 reasons

1. WE meet one gal in a day and she makes us feel good so have positive feeling
2. She meet 10 boy boy. All fuck her. How good can she feel

She come with the explicit aim of making money ....

When she is 'your gal' and then another bro is going into the room with her, then what it will do to your brain you have to experience to truly know

I think being married makes it somewhat even, as it's a wrong thing from both side in a way. I know what you mean still, been there. I think it helps if she really makes the extra effort to make you feel special and only sees you outside of working hours.

It also helps alot if you have another lady in your mind, but not so easy to find 2 at same time if you're picky. These days I don't have any in GL, taking a break I guess.

[unfit]

Younger days I also can’t differentiate the difference between love and lust

When I fuck my friend I thought I love her

But actually it’s not the case

She likes me only

When I grew older I slowly learned like vs love

Fucking colleague because I like her

Again I am confused cos she likes me to fuck her only

Then started commercial journey

Now this is lust no longer like and love

But still I fall in love with them

Haizzzzz now old already

So no more love and like left lust 100%

[evantoh]

Wakao.
Like, love, lust. Then love, like, lust, then lust, love, like.....

I lost liao.
Hahahaha

[Dignified69]

Good Bye

We had agreed to part
as friends,
We had agreed to part
in happiness.

And so we did.

In the room I joked
Could the ticking clock
Be held back?
But it waits for none.

It marches relentlessly!

The previous day
And the day before
We had met
In pain and in sorrow

Of days coming to an end

So today we met
As we did before
In passion, in ecstasy
In the warm embrace

Of people in love

And for the last time today, at her door
I asked her to step up
One more time
For one final naughty kiss

To say Goodbye

[yellownelly]

Can really feel your pain. Take care bro!

[Nerves82]

Originally Posted by Dignified69

Good Bye

We had agreed to part
as friends,
We had agreed to part
in happiness.

And so we did.

In the room I joked
Could the ticking clock
Be held back?
But it waits for none.

It marches relentlessly!

The previous day
And the day before
We had met
In pain and in sorrow

Of days coming to an end

So today we met
As we did before
In passion, in ecstasy
In the warm embrace

Of people in love

And for the last time today, at her door
I asked her to step up
One more time
For one final naughty kiss

To say Goodbye

I hope you're ok and coping well.
I want to say that I have been through the same with a popular thai WL who I fallen for last year and she is now back in Thailand. It's indeed very painful when it is time to say goodbye. I knew this day would come and despite warnings from this forum , I still fell deeply in love. Our relationship has been a rollercoaster and we are no longer in contact (she blocked me after I did not reply her as I tried to forget her) and I felt a 2nd heartbreak. Till now, I don't know if she truly loved me. I hope yours end better than mine. The pain is bad I know, take care bro!

[Dignified69]

Originally Posted by Nerves82

I hope you're ok and coping well.
I want to say that I have been through the same with a popular thai WL who I fallen for last year and she is now back in Thailand. It's indeed very painful when it is time to say goodbye. I knew this day would come and despite warnings from this forum , I still fell deeply in love. Our relationship has been a rollercoaster and we are no longer in contact (she blocked me after I did not reply her as I tried to forget her) and I felt a 2nd heartbreak. Till now, I don't know if she truly loved me. I hope yours end better than mine. The pain is bad I know, take care bro!

~~~~~~~~~

For me this now the third time. First was when Yinzhi suddenly cut card in 2024. It was purely a one sided thing but the heart break was very much there.

Then last year, again suddenly my PRC Sweetie, just the next day after we had gone out for the third time, announces that she is going back. Oh boy did this mess with my mind for a month. Plus there was a lot of confusion arising out of some confusions and I was in a daze (even without this haze)

And now this. You expect the gal will be here for 1 year if not 2. Then in month 4 of your relationship she goes back. It is natural and to be expected that the gal may want to cut off all contact with SG because this is a very painful part of their life. P

Mine will not end any better. The only 'sliver of hope' is my offer to visit her in her home country once every few months and pay her something for her company there. Very recently she shared her tick tock and I can see maybe a husband or boyfriend in the picture and this also messes with my mind.

I want to try and abstain from GL (save truck loads of money) focus on my health and business and try to do the overseas visit and 2-3 days of happiness with her thingy. Realistically speaking this would at the earliest mean visiting her in Feb or March 27.

All this could be pipe dream if I find myself blocked etc after coming Wednesday/THursday when she returns

[Dignified69]

Honest answer is Not Ok and Not Coping Well.

On my browser I have saved this website as Asian Mens Mental Health Forum. Am very grateful to the camaraderie and sharing by all the esteemed members of this august forum

But then this is the third time for me so I have some experience now. So actually coping better than the 1st and 2nd time. But still very challenging.

To all the esteemed members of this forum who can. Find yourself a partner outside of this forum, in the regular world. Here the chance of success is microscopically low. Don't be materialistic, find joy in the simple things and you will have beautiful life. Pray to the heavens that you have regular and interesting sex in this arrangement.

Also - to all the members who use derogatory terms for the gals.

Think and reflect deeper. I am sure some of you have been hurt in the past.

In the real world the fates have been unkind. Here you have someone who is providing you with a beautiful sexual experience.

Imagine yourself in their shoes, even as a guy

You take the blu pill which allows you to have errection. You meet 6 customers in a day. 6 different type of people and you have to piak piak them.

The state of your mind will be jelly after some time.

May kindness and graciousness follow you in all the days of your life

[Matman36]

Originally Posted by Dignified69

~~~~~~~~~

For me this now the third time. First was when Yinzhi suddenly cut card in 2024. It was purely a one sided thing but the heart break was very much there.

Then last year, again suddenly my PRC Sweetie, just the next day after we had gone out for the third time, announces that she is going back. Oh boy did this mess with my mind for a month. Plus there was a lot of confusion arising out of some confusions and I was in a daze (even without this haze)

And now this. You expect the gal will be here for 1 year if not 2. Then in month 4 of your relationship she goes back. It is natural and to be expected that the gal may want to cut off all contact with SG because this is a very painful part of their life. P

Mine will not end any better. The only 'sliver of hope' is my offer to visit her in her home country once every few months and pay her something for her company there. Very recently she shared her tick tock and I can see maybe a husband or boyfriend in the picture and this also messes with my mind.

I want to try and abstain from GL (save truck loads of money) focus on my health and business and try to do the overseas visit and 2-3 days of happiness with her thingy. Realistically speaking this would at the earliest mean visiting her in Feb or March 27.

All this could be pipe dream if I find myself blocked etc after coming Wednesday/THursday when she returns

It is often a painful part of their life yes. One was telling me recently she just want to forget about it. It's admirable how much they can endure to reach their financial goals.

Better don't visit her if you need to pay again for her company though.

[evantoh]

Originally Posted by Dignified69

Honest answer is Not Ok and Not Coping Well.

On my browser I have saved this website as Asian Mens Mental Health Forum. Am very grateful to the camaraderie and sharing by all the esteemed members of this august forum

But then this is the third time for me so I have some experience now. So actually coping better than the 1st and 2nd time. But still very challenging.

To all the esteemed members of this forum who can. Find yourself a partner outside of this forum, in the regular world. Here the chance of success is microscopically low. Don't be materialistic, find joy in the simple things and you will have beautiful life. Pray to the heavens that you have regular and interesting sex in this arrangement.

Also - to all the members who use derogatory terms for the gals.

Think and reflect deeper. I am sure some of you have been hurt in the past.

In the real world the fates have been unkind. Here you have someone who is providing you with a beautiful sexual experience.

Imagine yourself in their shoes, even as a guy

You take the blu pill which allows you to have errection. You meet 6 customers in a day. 6 different type of people and you have to piak piak them.

The state of your mind will be jelly after some time.

May kindness and graciousness follow you in all the days of your life

Handsome, i think you must be suffering in your marriage. But nonetheless, i can empathise what you have been through. I can only imagine how challenging it must be to go through this again even it is the 3rd time.

I agree with what you said about finding a partner in the real world. At the end of the day, most of us are looking for more than just physical intimacy. We want companionship, someone who understands us, someone to share life's ups and downs with, and someone who genuinely wants to be with us.

And yes, i like your reminder about treating the gals with kindness and respect. We may not fully understand their circumstances, their struggles, or the choices that brought them here. Everyone has a story, and we shouldn't be so quick to judge. A little empathy can go a long way.

Life doesn't always turn out the way we hope, and sometimes we find ourselves searching for comfort in places we never expected. There's no shame in that. We're all human, and we all have our own battles to fight.

Take care of yourself, handsome. You've been through this before, but you don't always have to be strong or pretend you're coping well. I hope things get better for you, and that one day you'll find the genuine connection and happiness you're looking for. Stay strong.

[evantoh]

Originally Posted by Matman36

It is often a painful part of their life yes. One was telling me recently she just want to forget about it. It's admirable how much they can endure to reach their financial goals.

Better don't visit her if you need to pay again for her company though.

It is definitely painful, but like what most wl said, it will be worst if they are penniless. They have mastered the craft and skill to block and cut off this emotion when they are providing the service. And yes, they will feel enjoyment with the ones they like, but rarely.

Unless you are their backup, sponsor or something else, they will wanna erase this completely when they return.

Of course, there are some who will continue in this trade, for whatever reason, no 1 knows. Because they enjoy? Not really. But again....no 1 knows.

[electronics]

Originally Posted by Matman36

It is often a painful part of their life yes. One was telling me recently she just want to forget about it. It's admirable how much they can endure to reach their financial goals.

How about WL who regularly post their fine dining experiences, LV bags, gold jewellery, cash on their WeChat Moments? She appears to be enjoying life in GL.

[Matman36]

Originally Posted by evantoh

It is definitely painful, but like what most wl said, it will be worst if they are penniless. They have mastered the craft and skill to block and cut off this emotion when they are providing the service. And yes, they will feel enjoyment with the ones they like, but rarely.

Unless you are their backup, sponsor or something else, they will wanna erase this completely when they return.

Of course, there are some who will continue in this trade, for whatever reason, no 1 knows. Because they enjoy? Not really. But again....no 1 knows.

Yeah some continues, probably same reason, need more money or can't go back to local low wages yet. At least it might be less stressful than Geylang high customer flow.

I kept contact with most ex regulars that I dated and have some open invites to visit them. One hope I can give her baby soon when she has her house ready. Another one cut contact after a few months, new boyfriend it seems and I didn't visit her. All Thai or Viet village girls, maybe it's another thing with PRCs.