from F##k Service to Friendship, Possible ?

[heroi111]

Originally Posted by electronics

How about WL who regularly post their fine dining experiences, LV bags, gold jewellery, cash on their WeChat Moments? She appears to be enjoying life in GL.

They used their pussy and they strongly believe they earn it from you.
I think mostly got no gratitude for those gifts. Rich bros give willingly.
This is what some wl told me.
Sad truth.
Some bros are lucky, wl buy things for them and paid for meals. If this is not a long term strategy to earn more from you, this is is Evan Toh the 2nd second.
Another 0.01% success case.
Most of us are the 99.99% cases....

[Matman36]

Originally Posted by electronics

How about WL who regularly post their fine dining experiences, LV bags, gold jewellery, cash on their WeChat Moments? She appears to be enjoying life in GL.

Some pleasure doesn't make the whole thing enjoyable I guess.

[Dignified69]

Originally Posted by evantoh

Handsome, i think you must be suffering in your marriage. But nonetheless, i can empathise what you have been through. I can only imagine how challenging it must be to go through this again even it is the 3rd time.

I agree with what you said about finding a partner in the real world. At the end of the day, most of us are looking for more than just physical intimacy. We want companionship, someone who understands us, someone to share life's ups and downs with, and someone who genuinely wants to be with us.

And yes, i like your reminder about treating the gals with kindness and respect. We may not fully understand their circumstances, their struggles, or the choices that brought them here. Everyone has a story, and we shouldn't be so quick to judge. A little empathy can go a long way.

Life doesn't always turn out the way we hope, and sometimes we find ourselves searching for comfort in places we never expected. There's no shame in that. We're all human, and we all have our own battles to fight.

Take care of yourself, handsome. You've been through this before, but you don't always have to be strong or pretend you're coping well. I hope things get better for you, and that one day you'll find the genuine connection and happiness you're looking for. Stay strong.

Good Sir, I am definitely suffering in my marriage. I thank you for your insightful, useful and high EQ sharing above.

In 9/10 areas things are awesome. I have known my wife since we were 19 years young. We dated for 8 years and were committed to each other from the get go. She earns well (corporate high flyer) runs the house well (with full-time helper) and is a good mother. Does not waste money. Reasonably good looking for her age. We have 2 happy children. I am free to run my happy and successful SME business where I get to look at very nice chio bu.

So in 9/10 aspects things are awesome.

However,

in the 1/10 area of sex and intimacy and affection her score is -987898898^(2323232). Please note minus sign

Detailed breakdown

1. Germophobe - this dirty that dirty so cannot
2. Conservative - This not good, that not good so cannot
3. Zero Interest in sex - Once told me she would rather see a movie
4. KKJ is for urination. So dirty. BBBJ what's that
5. This pain that pain everything cannot. Woman on top - cannot. Doggy - cannot. Just wants to lie like starfish once every year or two
6. Sex knowledge minus infinity
7. Sex is for reproduction only
8. All counselling and sex therapy done and dusted


Your boy boy 1 hour piak piak in GL and 20 minutes later he is looking at some chio bu with impure thoughts. Romantic at heart. Boy boy love language - physical touch. Her love language - acts of service

Net result - last time piak piak was in 2010 when offspring was being made.

Solution - find lady friend (non WL) as FWB?

[unfit]

Used to envy my friends and buddies who had good sex lifestyles with their wives

Until one fine day I saw the OC checking in with another guy

Then I understand one thing

High sex drive partner is not easy to maintain

Grass is always greener on the other side

Best option stay single and go GL whenever necessary

[happytree123]

Originally Posted by electronics

How about WL who regularly post their fine dining experiences, LV bags, gold jewellery, cash on their WeChat Moments? She appears to be enjoying life in GL.

actually this one is their free will already, I mean normal people try to post the more positive aspects of their lives on social media. No difference what the WL is doing vs those kampong kids post themselves unboxing or crying whether they see iPhone 18 pro being gifted to them

People on the internet whether is influencers or even that old foul mouth Wang Lei also post themselves flying SQ business class but we don also anyhow criticise them. Influencers earn through selling their persona while wearing clothes, WL earn it though selling their body, that is probably the most obvious difference

Also

if there is one thing I learn from prcs whether through face 2 face or watching their social media, is that they only got one life to enjoy so why not enjoy it to the best

[evantoh]

Originally Posted by heroi111

They used their pussy and they strongly believe they earn it from you.
I think mostly got no gratitude for those gifts. Rich bros give willingly.
This is what some wl told me.
Sad truth.
Some bros are lucky, wl buy things for them and paid for meals. If this is not a long term strategy to earn more from you, this is is Evan Toh the 2nd second.
Another 0.01% success case.
Most of us are the 99.99% cases....

Rich guys usually bao a few months or send the WL back to their home country. After a few months, they get bored and abandon them. This is 1 of the reasons some WL end up returning to this trade. They believed in the so-called monthly sponsorship arrangement, only to kena snook in the end.

Then there are those who are not so rich but use up their savings to buy hours and hours of a WL time, hoping to give her a better life. They declare their love through messages, buy gifts, give money, pay her medical bills, and do all sorts of things for her.

And yes, these guys are in a dilemma too. While it may be cheaper to spend money seeing her in Singapore than to sponsor her to return home, some of them want to continue the relationship even after she has returned to her home country.

My advice is if you are spending money like there is no tomorrow, hoping that your affection will eventually be reciprocated, please think carefully.

Some may argue, the WL never asked me to buy her anything. I did it willingly because I wanted to show my appreciation and affection. Fair enough, your money, your taiji, It is your money, and you have every right to spend it as you wish. But be honest with yourself. Are you genuinely giving without expecting anything in return, or are you secretly hoping that your generosity will eventually turn into love?

If a WL genuinely likes you and sees that you are spending beyond your means, wouldn't you expect her to tell you to stop wasting money, perhaps even after the first gift? If she continues accepting your gifts, money and other forms of support while acting surprised and touched by your gestures, does that necessarily mean she loves you? Don't confuse their thanks with affection, or gratitude with love.

If you find yourself spending more and more, sacrificing your savings and becoming emotionally attached while hoping that one day she will reciprocate your feelings, perhaps it is time to bite the bullet and walk away.

Because what you believe is love may simply be one-sided wishful thinking.
Of course, every case is different. Some relationships may be genuine, while others may not be. There is no foolproof way to tell from the outside who is sincere and who is not.

Ultimately, nobody can make that decision for you. But one thing is certain, don't sacrifice your financial security and emotional well-being just to hold on to someone when you are not even sure whether the feelings are mutual.

Love should not require you to keep spending money to prove your worth. Just my 2c

[heroi111]

Originally Posted by evantoh

Rich guys usually bao a few months or send the WL back to their home country. After a few months, they get bored and abandon them. This is 1 of the reasons some WL end up returning to this trade. They believed in the so-called monthly sponsorship arrangement, only to kena snook in the end.

Then there are those who are not so rich but use up their savings to buy hours and hours of a WL time, hoping to give her a better life. They declare their love through messages, buy gifts, give money, pay her medical bills, and do all sorts of things for her.

And yes, these guys are in a dilemma too. While it may be cheaper to spend money seeing her in Singapore than to sponsor her to return home, some of them want to continue the relationship even after she has returned to her home country.

My advice is if you are spending money like there is no tomorrow, hoping that your affection will eventually be reciprocated, please think carefully.

Some may argue, the WL never asked me to buy her anything. I did it willingly because I wanted to show my appreciation and affection. Fair enough, your money, your taiji, It is your money, and you have every right to spend it as you wish. But be honest with yourself. Are you genuinely giving without expecting anything in return, or are you secretly hoping that your generosity will eventually turn into love?

If a WL genuinely likes you and sees that you are spending beyond your means, wouldn't you expect her to tell you to stop wasting money, perhaps even after the first gift? If she continues accepting your gifts, money and other forms of support while acting surprised and touched by your gestures, does that necessarily mean she loves you? Don't confuse their thanks with affection, or gratitude with love.

If you find yourself spending more and more, sacrificing your savings and becoming emotionally attached while hoping that one day she will reciprocate your feelings, perhaps it is time to bite the bullet and walk away.

Because what you believe is love may simply be one-sided wishful thinking.
Of course, every case is different. Some relationships may be genuine, while others may not be. There is no foolproof way to tell from the outside who is sincere and who is not.

Ultimately, nobody can make that decision for you. But one thing is certain, don't sacrifice your financial security and emotional well-being just to hold on to someone when you are not even sure whether the feelings are mutual.

Love should not require you to keep spending money to prove your worth. Just my 2c

Very well said.
I have learnt the hard way too.
When any wl never ever use the love word on you, don't spend on her.
Waste of money..
Even when there is love, Evan is right.
They will not be keen to always use your money.
Once they ask for gold, LV and iphone 18PM...
Time to walk away before it is too late...
My last wl was $30k cash gone...
This might be low for rich bros.
For average person, this is some cash.
I have downgraded from MBA to BYD for example...
Now wl will see me as poor man, not chop me anymore, I hope lol.

[evantoh]

Originally Posted by electronics

How about WL who regularly post their fine dining experiences, LV bags, gold jewellery, cash on their WeChat Moments? She appears to be enjoying life in GL.

They also like normal people mah! You buy a car, get a Rolex or receive a present, you also might post it on IG or FB to show your friends, right?

Just because we know they are in this trade, suddenly we think they are showing off? Hahaha!

Actually, go and look at all the influencers on TikTok. When you see them dressing up, showing off branded goods, travelling, and living the good life, would you immediately think they are in this trade? Maybe yes, maybe no. Some might even command a much higher rate than we imagine! Hahaha! 😂

So, the question is, why can't they post on social media?

They have friends back in their home countries too mah. Naturally, they want to show their friends that they are doing well, enjoying life and able to afford things they might not have been able to afford before.

Of course, we cannot think their message is, Look, I'm working in Geylang, and these are some of the perks. Come and work in this trade too! Hahahaha

But at the end of the day, posting nice things on social media doesn't automatically mean someone is showing off, nor does it tell us the whole story behind how they got them.

Sometimes, we are the ones who see things differently simply because we know what line of work they are in.

Hahahaha

[evantoh]

Originally Posted by heroi111

Very well said.
I have learnt the hard way too.
When any wl never ever use the love word on you, don't spend on her.
Waste of money..
Even when there is love, Evan is right.
They will not be keen to always use your money.
Once they ask for gold, LV and iphone 18PM...
Time to walk away before it is too late...
My last wl was $30k cash gone...
This might be low for rich bros.
For average person, this is some cash.
I have downgraded from MBA to BYD for example...
Now wl will see me as poor man, not chop me anymore, I hope lol.

Want me to share how 1 poor hero spent more than 300k in few mths on sessions, gifts, allowance and cried when she rtc early and even asked to visit her monthly and wanna send her allowance, only to have his contact block + delete. The moment she reached changi airport.

Hahaha.

[heroi111]

Originally Posted by evantoh

Want me to share how 1 poor hero spent more than 300k in few mths on sessions, gifts, allowance and cried when she rtc early and even asked to visit her monthly and wanna send her allowance, only to have his contact block + delete. The moment she reached changi airport.

Hahaha.

Your case is very extreme la.
Your prc wl loves you deep deep.
Then hurt the poor bro gone with $300k cash...
If she don't have Evan Toh,
This bro might still be supporting her in China.
Possible ya?
You destroyed his dream lol.

[evantoh]

Originally Posted by heroi111

Your case is very extreme la.
Your prc wl loves you deep deep.
Then hurt the poor bro gone with $300k cash...
If she don't have Evan Toh,
This bro might still be supporting her in China.
Possible ya?
You destroyed his dream lol.

I dont wanna comment. Skali the handsome bro who is nursing the pain see this. Ouch.

[happytree123]

Originally Posted by evantoh

Rich guys usually bao a few months or send the WL back to their home country. After a few months, they get bored and abandon them. This is 1 of the reasons some WL end up returning to this trade. They believed in the so-called monthly sponsorship arrangement, only to kena snook in the end.

speaking for this bao, have anyone manage to hear any latest updates from this story: There was some guy who bailed out a wl by offering 600K SGD and buy a condo for her (not sure is under her name or the guy name) in China.

However, they never sign marriage papers in the end despite being part of the deal offered (or at least this was the last news update)

[chrix]

财发狠心人，情困心软者，无爱可破情局

This is the secret to successful people.
You can say this is rubbish or even nonsense advice. I respect your view.

If you cannot understand the above, i also don't know how to explain in English. Google translate does not explain it well.

[heroi111]

Originally Posted by evantoh

I dont wanna comment. Skali the handsome bro who is nursing the pain see this. Ouch.

Talking about handsome bro...
My last prc wl who left Singapore told me before she likes the bro who have visited her like 10 times non stop while she was at 20XX..
She went out with him with her friend to sing KTV once before ..
If you are the handsome bro and here in this chat, congratulations.
You are the one in her heart.
You look poor to her but you got her heart...
If you see this, you should be the one flying to China now.
Not other bros..
Cheers!

[happytree123]

Originally Posted by heroi111

No more contact on WeChat?
Few visits and did she confirm any relationship with you in the car?

This is more like she needed someone at that time and your face is what she likes to see too.

Another Chuando look alike ya, for your looks.
Plus with car, it helps alot.
COE super high price also no choice lol.

So i tried asking her out again which she agreed to. This time round went to eat fast food which she pay for herself again cos she knows I'm stingy as fuck hahaha. Next time need to go places which can scan WeChat Pay or use cash only. She see me keep the empty water bottle from her house, ask me whether I want go collect from her house, got a lot I can collect for the 10c refund

It was a quick one cos she knew I wanted to bring her go ECP to have some quiet time together.

Really cannot take the 乡巴佬 out of her from the way she smoke in public coupled with the oversized tee which make her look like those Vietbu KTV ladies during their off duty hours.

She seems very happy to be at the beach though, go walk on the sand and do some poses when I took photo for her. Again, hear her talk shit again.

Actually she once thought of trying to psycho her clients to splurge or try baoed her (cos her colleagues some got God of Fortunes already, got one is 4 hrs sessions straight just to smoke), but she just cannot force herself to 低声下气 and act 'cute' since she is a Ah Lian by nature. Also, she is wary of her colleagues who might to try to sabo her by tipping off the relevant parties involved.

As time goes by, her hand start to get more dirty, start to touch my dick and let me grab her boobs while we sitting at the bench. After that she sat on me to DFK before I realised got other people in next bench but she dgaf. Overall time quite short cos got curfew timing by boss. If not for curfew, she dm go hang out until morning and go back work straightaway.

Moving forward, she say actually if I really wanna hang out, just wechat her so long she is not dead tired. No need to go book her. I shall see things how it goes moving forward. She kept laughing at me for being cautious of her at times bo bian this kind of thing