from F##k Service to Friendship, Possible ?

[unfit]

Originally Posted by heroi111

Hey bro.
You mean the creampie or the crying?
Both ya lol.
Cheers!

after creaming is perspiring

[heroi111]

Originally Posted by unfit

after creaming is perspiring

Turn Aircon to full blast!

[unfit]

Originally Posted by heroi111

Turn Aircon to full blast!

wait Joe shrinking till cannot be found

[xAlpha]

So many seniors here sharing their stories. Really makes me wonder what I’m going through myself 😂

Recently I met a Thai WL who said she liked me a lot even though we don’t even speak each other’s language. I felt my ego/morale boosted and started to see her more.

How do I know if she really meant what she said? She hasn’t asked for lavish gifts or anything but she also didn’t make herself available for a full day of date; only 2-3 hours in the morning.

So many different endings here. I just don’t know which one would be mine.

[heroi111]

Originally Posted by xAlpha

So many seniors here sharing their stories. Really makes me wonder what I’m going through myself 😂

Recently I met a Thai WL who said she liked me a lot even though we don’t even speak each other’s language. I felt my ego/morale boosted and started to see her more.

How do I know if she really meant what she said? She hasn’t asked for lavish gifts or anything but she also didn’t make herself available for a full day of date; only 2-3 hours in the morning.

So many different endings here. I just don’t know which one would be mine.

We hope for the best for you.
Hope you can be Evan Toh the 2nd who lives happily ever after!
One simple test is if you can creampie, the minimum is she really likes you. Not love yet.
No creampie means likely to be after your cash. This is coming from my personal experiences.
Hope this helps!
Cheers!

[happytree123]

Originally Posted by heroi111

For my last wl, I visited her till her last working day.
Gave her small sum of money and took her out one day before her flight out of Singapore.
Not easy to face this.
It was painful also.
So all bros out there, if can don't start loving wl, the pain later is real. It doesn't go away in one or two days.
Some bros here after two years still cannot forget their wl....
Don't start is the best..
I am also in the midst of adjusting...
I got a new wl tot, it helps you to move on faster....
Hope this helps!

my past and current situation now is...

The Yunnan WL, the one who treat me super nice and I send her off to airport personally. Did flew over and hang out in her rented apartment in Fujian. Super nice but we don't wechat anymore, which I already expected and told her in advance.

Now this current WL, also super nice and can meet up on demand. Welcome me to fly over to find her once she RTC and settle down her stuff. Feel shiok lah, but eventually I know will end up like the Yunnan WL case, distant will kill all interactions eventually. Furthermore, I cannot and have no intention of staying in PRC for the long term.

But these two WL made the same comments which I always remembered well: If they had come to Singapore, we met somewhere while she working as a legit job, maybe the outcome could have be different (not better, but different, that's the keyword)

--

But before this current WL case, just like 1 month ago, I already hooked up with a Henan ML, she is obsessed with me for some reason upon first sight. We went out few times and also to JB before she RTC just after 1 mth OTJ. Apart from molesting me in public, and fk her twice for free. Never asked for me what, just want my company. Keep asking why I dw make it official with her. Now she is coming back to work in SG and gonna 'hunt' me down during nov/dec period

So i got my plate full at this rate, I think I seriously need to find a proper relationship. gonna be 50% on the way to retirement age liao

[heroi111]

Originally Posted by happytree123

my past and current situation now is...

The Yunnan WL, the one who treat me super nice and I send her off to airport personally. Did flew over and hang out in her rented apartment in Fujian. Super nice but we don't wechat anymore, which I already expected and told her in advance.

Now this current WL, also super nice and can meet up on demand. Welcome me to fly over to find her once she RTC and settle down her stuff. Feel shiok lah, but eventually I know will end up like the Yunnan WL case, distant will kill all interactions eventually. Furthermore, I cannot and have no intention of staying in PRC for the long term.

But these two WL made the same comments which I always remembered well: If they had come to Singapore, we met somewhere while she working as a legit job, maybe the outcome could have be different (not better, but different, that's the keyword)

--

But before this current WL case, just like 1 month ago, I already hooked up with a Henan ML, she is obsessed with me for some reason upon first sight. We went out few times and also to JB before she RTC just after 1 mth OTJ. Apart from molesting me in public, and fk her twice for free. Never asked for me what, just want my company. Keep asking why I dw make it official with her. Now she is coming back to work in SG and gonna 'hunt' me down during nov/dec period

So i got my plate full at this rate, I think I seriously need to find a proper relationship. gonna be 50% on the way to retirement age liao

Your point that strike me is distance.
Distance can kill off any remaining love or interest.
You don't intend to stay long term in China?
Your $2m sgd becomes $10m rmb in China for retirement.
Solid life one lol.

[xAlpha]

Originally Posted by heroi111

We hope for the best for you.
Hope you can be Evan Toh the 2nd who lives happily ever after!
One simple test is if you can creampie, the minimum is she really likes you. Not love yet.
No creampie means likely to be after your cash. This is coming from my personal experiences.
Hope this helps!
Cheers!

Thank you kind sir.

Hahaha, have is have but it’s because it’s near period. Does that count? Are there any other signs I need to watch for?

[happytree123]

Originally Posted by heroi111

Your point that strike me is distance.
Distance can kill off any remaining love or interest.
You don't intend to stay long term in China?
Your $2m sgd becomes $10m rmb in China for retirement.
Solid life one lol.

long term wise, I don really forsee staying there for a lot of reasons. At most you give me Macao or Hong Kong, I can still consider cos of 一国两制

and also my money is mostly generated in Singapore MAJULAH SINGAPURA!

[heroi111]

Originally Posted by xAlpha

Thank you kind sir.

Hahaha, have is have but it’s because it’s near period. Does that count? Are there any other signs I need to watch for?

This show she really likes you since you can creampie.
When she treat you cold and hot, means no love.
When she treat never ever text you, means no love.
I learnt from douyin and Xiao hongshu lol.

Hope other bros can chip in.
When there is no love, we get hurt.
Simple but sad outcome.

[Topper]

Originally Posted by xAlpha

So many seniors here sharing their stories. Really makes me wonder what I’m going through myself 😂
Recently I met a Thai WL who said she liked me a lot even though we don’t even speak each other’s language. I felt my ego/morale boosted and started to see her more.
How do I know if she really meant what she said? She hasn’t asked for lavish gifts or anything but she also didn’t make herself available for a full day of date; only 2-3 hours in the morning.
So many different endings here. I just don’t know which one would be mine.

Based on risk assessment 风险评估 of past Vietbu/Siambu cases, it will always start off well as they are of a lesser status holding high regards for Sinkie men so at first will behave like a totally understanding dream wife, care for your health, well-being, go dutch, not greedy, never ask for lavish gifts, free bonks, help you save money, all lovey dovey etc. til the inevitable pig butchering scheme starts and you end up feeding her whole village. The other scenario is of her ending up in Kallang river

[heroi111]

Originally Posted by happytree123

long term wise, I don really forsee staying there for a lot of reasons. At most you give me Macao or Hong Kong, I can still consider cos of 一国两制

and also my money is mostly generated in Singapore MAJULAH SINGAPURA!

I supposed you are single ya?
Your two prc wl if meet you not in geylang, they are keen to marry you.
But sadly, the meetup is geylang.
They worry that you mind about their body counts etc.
End up, no story moving forward...
If keep as xiaosan, they are more ok.
I can tell you should be rich enough lol.
So, can try the mistress after you get a main wife.

Cheers!

[xAlpha]

Thank you seniors for the knowledge sharing. I will go out with her soon I think and hopefully it won’t be a tragic ending

[evantoh]

Originally Posted by heroi111

This show she really likes you since you can creampie.
When she treat you cold and hot, means no love.
When she treat never ever text you, means no love.
I learnt from douyin and Xiao hongshu lol.

Hope other bros can chip in.
When there is no love, we get hurt.
Simple but sad outcome.

Based on my personal experience, here are some tell-tale signs that she genuinely likes you. Of course, everyone is different, so no need to use mine as benchmark....

1. She will constantly text you. Almost every hour, or whenever both of you are free. Even when she has customers, she will still find time to text you. You can tell that she wants to keep you in her life, even when she is busy.

2. You will be pinned to the top of her WeChat. You can check this yourself. Most likely, other guys will have nicknames with ���� attached, while yours might be a ❤️, Lover, darling, laogong...etc. if you ask her to let you see her wechat, for my case, no resistance. Auto let me see.

3. She will make time for you every night. After work, she will meet you without fail. In my case, she never missed a single night during her stay in singapore. Every night 2hrs with me after work. Even on her off days, she would spend them with me.

4. She will spend money on you without expecting anything in return. For my birthday, I received a five-figure angbao, other occasion, a Samsung trifold phone, a new laptop, branded clothing and many other gifts. I know, I know... many people here will probably say, Canon fairy!

But I'm just sharing what happened to me. Believe it or not, that's my experience.

4. Going out is always her treat, or you go Dutch. She never insists that I pay for everything, and she doesn't want me to give her extra money either.

6. She will tell you to save your money. Instead of asking you to spend money visiting her, she would rather come and meet you herself. She doesn't want you to keep spending just to see her.

7. She is willing to take a whole day off just to be with you. If I asked her out for the whole day, she would make arrangements to spend that time with me. She did that for me twice.

8. Video calls become part of your daily routine. Every night, we would video call until we fell asleep, sometimes past 3am.
The first thing she did when she woke up was to video call me again. Even when she was showering, she would keep the video call on until she started work.

When she was in Singapore, we never missed a single day of video calling. Yup, every single day!

9. She will take care of you in ways you don't expect. Sometimes, she would secretly stuff money into my car's glove compartment or leave money in my wardrobe at home whenever she sensed that I needed it.

She would cook for me, buy medicine for me and even take time off to look after me when I was sick.

These were things she did on her own initiative. I didn't have to ask.

10. The biggest tell-tale sign? She doesn't want you to keep spending money on her.
This is the part I want to highlight. When she genuinely cares about you, she doesn't always see you as a customer or someone who must spend money to get her attention.
She wants to spend time with you, looks after you, worries about your finances and gives to you without constantly expecting something in return.
If you want to meet her, she would rather meet you for FOC than have you spend money just to see her.

Of course, don't judge everything based on money or gifts alone. Different people express affection differently, and some may be naturally generous.

But when you see a consistent pattern of effort, time, care and genuine concern for your well-being, that's when you should start paying attention.

At the end of the day, anyone can say I like you, I love you. The real question is, is she just saying or, she also put it in action?

For me, these were the things she did. I'm simply sharing my own experience.

[heroi111]

Originally Posted by evantoh

Based on my personal experience, here are some tell-tale signs that she genuinely likes you. Of course, everyone is different, so no need to use mine as benchmark....

1. She will constantly text you. Almost every hour, or whenever both of you are free. Even when she has customers, she will still find time to text you. You can tell that she wants to keep you in her life, even when she is busy.

2. You will be pinned to the top of her WeChat. You can check this yourself. Most likely, other guys will have nicknames with ���� attached, while yours might be a ❤️, Lover, darling, laogong...etc. if you ask her to let you see her wechat, for my case, no resistance. Auto let me see.

3. She will make time for you every night. After work, she will meet you without fail. In my case, she never missed a single night during her stay in singapore. Every night 2hrs with me after work. Even on her off days, she would spend them with me.

4. She will spend money on you without expecting anything in return. For my birthday, I received a five-figure angbao, other occasion, a Samsung trifold phone, a new laptop, branded clothing and many other gifts. I know, I know... many people here will probably say, Canon fairy!

But I'm just sharing what happened to me. Believe it or not, that's my experience.

4. Going out is always her treat, or you go Dutch. She never insists that I pay for everything, and she doesn't want me to give her extra money either.

6. She will tell you to save your money. Instead of asking you to spend money visiting her, she would rather come and meet you herself. She doesn't want you to keep spending just to see her.

7. She is willing to take a whole day off just to be with you. If I asked her out for the whole day, she would make arrangements to spend that time with me. She did that for me twice.

8. Video calls become part of your daily routine. Every night, we would video call until we fell asleep, sometimes past 3am.
The first thing she did when she woke up was to video call me again. Even when she was showering, she would keep the video call on until she started work.

When she was in Singapore, we never missed a single day of video calling. Yup, every single day!

9. She will take care of you in ways you don't expect. Sometimes, she would secretly stuff money into my car's glove compartment or leave money in my wardrobe at home whenever she sensed that I needed it.

She would cook for me, buy medicine for me and even take time off to look after me when I was sick.

These were things she did on her own initiative. I didn't have to ask.

10. The biggest tell-tale sign? She doesn't want you to keep spending money on her.
This is the part I want to highlight. When she genuinely cares about you, she doesn't always see you as a customer or someone who must spend money to get her attention.
She wants to spend time with you, looks after you, worries about your finances and gives to you without constantly expecting something in return.
If you want to meet her, she would rather meet you for FOC than have you spend money just to see her.

Of course, don't judge everything based on money or gifts alone. Different people express affection differently, and some may be naturally generous.

But when you see a consistent pattern of effort, time, care and genuine concern for your well-being, that's when you should start paying attention.

At the end of the day, anyone can say I like you, I love you. The real question is, is she just saying or, she also put it in action?

For me, these were the things she did. I'm simply sharing my own experience.

From my experiences, my last prc wl texted me every hour and got time between customers , she also WeChat me non stop when she was in Singapore. End up also telling me she got no love for me.
She only love my money....
So WeChat non stop can also be due to cash reason....
This is not a good gauge for my case.
Spending on you is hard.
I never encounter before. Even when my new wl told me she loves me, I never see her wallet moves when I bring her out on code red lol.