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Old 19-06-2009, 09:02 PM
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Re: Time to handbrake?

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Handbrake, E brake plus get on your ejaculation seat! (And before I get flamed, yes I am aware that the correct term for it is ejection seat )

If you look through all the other posts by the other KCed bros, there is a pattern that is almost identical for all cases.

1. The guy will feel that the WL is very special. "She is different from all the rest I've met before." is the usual refrain.

2. The two love birds will go on dates, dinners, drinks, movies, shopping, etc. The guy will invariably pay for the dates, as gentlemen should, and thinking hey, I only spend like less than SGD200 for the dates, its what I would normally spend even if I go out with a normal SG girl. Oh, and she is so nice she doesn't mind eating out at the food court or coffee shop with me. Therefore she is different and she cares about my financial well being.

3. Most of the bros who get KCed will think that I am just a normal salaried worker with average income. Not Robert material as I have no money to give to her. What the hack, my bank account only got less than SGD10,000 in all. She is not after me for my money because I don't have much to give.

4. You two have sex. Lots of it. FOC. Damn, she loves me that is why she is not taking my money after sex!

5. For some folks, they even have it raw. Oh my god, she allows me to do it raw!!! she must really love me to bits!!!

6. Messaging each other and calling each other numerous times in a day. Usually with phrases like “宝贝, 我想你” ‘宝贝,你在干嘛?” “情爱的,你吃饭了吗?别饿坏了,我会心痛的。”. Or phrases to that effect (in the respective languages).

7. You start brushing up on your Mandarin/Thai/Vietnamese and will start thinking about migrating to China/Thailand/Vietnam.


This is the scenario that is being repeated time and time again. Different players, different actors/actresses but same scene.

If a poll is conducted, I am sure that statistically the guy invariably ends up being hurt and most end up spending a not insignificant sum of money in the end. Having such a poll is not possible because for most, after being hurt they simply disappear, wallowing in their own distress.

So before the irrational exuberance hits you, better exit the market and stay in cash. To most of us, the money spent is not a real issue but the emotional distress of such relationships. Fairy tale ending for such relationships? Hmmmm.... I personally doubt it is possible.

So in the meantime, before you get hit by the irrational exuberance, just enjoy the time you have together, get out before its too late and leave the happy times you shared etched in your memory.
you got this so perfectly correct. While happy ending is possible, maybe one in a million but I think for most of us, it's realistically stupid to do so when we do have the opportunity to find better stuffs as it goes along.
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Old 19-06-2009, 09:06 PM
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Re: Time to handbrake?

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Bro Seoseo

This one is a more skilful player, sensing that if she starts asking for money / gifts first you will kick her out fast. So she is now worming her way to your heart to bypass your logic and make her way to your bank account. Her TIME BOMB has been planted since you started to have feelings already.

No she is not naïve, that is her initial investment and that 2 weeks of income is what she can afford to lose.

Her motive is very clear it is MONEY, if not why is she working at a KTV in the first place or why is she even here in Singapore? She came here with an objective and it is MONEY. If she only desires a simple life, she would have stayed at China with her family and get married there and have her simple life there. She is SCHEMING this whole shit out to trap you. She doesn’t deserve you to be nice to her when her motives are to hurt you. (Some of these women have a deep hatred for men)

My take on this matter is: Handbrake and get out NOW before it gets too hard for you. Just go MIA now.

I hope your case will be a success story (you manage to get rid of her), remember to come back and tell us the outcome.
I have a *grin* interesting plan for get out. I feel like telling her I like to watch her being bonked by my brother, if you like me, can fulfil my fantasy please?

Wondering what's the response haha.


On another hand, it's rather mean, given as I said, I feel she is quite a nice person though that may not be the truth which I cannot be bothered to find out anyway since it's good bye time.
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Old 19-06-2009, 09:14 PM
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hey bro,
i do understand tat there r lots of FL or KTV gals who KC ppl but there are also genuine gals out there.
use both ur brain n ur heart in this matter. if you r single n feel tat this gal is someone worth ur effort n time, go for it. but it is a choice u have to make. whether things work out of not, face it like a man. good luck!
I do share that sentiment there are genuine gals out there. It come across to me she is nice, but fact is also she is here for money, passport, either way a better life and maybe a better love.

Which neither money nor passport nor love are any "commodity" I am ready to offer. (Better sex, anytime)

It also come to the point that, I must say its weird that even such a thought come across my mind, that is if I think she is a good girl(regardless whether where she work or her reason for being here), spending any more time is just screwing up her life, cause money I no want give, love I not interested, only sex.

Ahh so all the better.

Going MIA, usually not a problem for me. Easiest of all.

Just that this one, I just thought of telling her, parting now is for the good for her (and for me as well obviously, but I am not going say that right?
Of course how it turns out may be interesting or "dangerous".

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Old 19-06-2009, 10:03 PM
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Re: Time to handbrake?

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Been wondering about this since last week.

I sorta feel that she is pretty genuine and its quite a nice girl although of course she could be just that oscar actress. For me it is more of wondering, which route should I go to call it quit? It's either she is scheming this whole shit out, or she's genuine right? Now, being a nice person or at least I think she deserves me to be nice, thus this starts me pondering.
Doesn't matter. By breaking this off, you're already being nice - both to yourself and to her.

She can't afford KC and neither can you. So... do the math yourself!
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Re: Time to handbrake?

Bro, now u should emergency brake Liao.Now she will say I lve u, miss u, after u got the poison. She will say I lve u and yr money. Miss u and your money! Bro, wise up. This is sg. No money no honey. Dun end up just like a good friend of mine. Lost money , time and efforts. Go find a good gal. She dun have to tell u she lve u. Her action speaks louder than words. Take care bro.
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Old 19-06-2009, 10:19 PM
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Re: Time to handbrake?

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I do share that sentiment there are genuine gals out there. It come across to me she is nice, but fact is also she is here for money, passport, either way a better life and maybe a better love.

Which neither money nor passport nor love are any "commodity" I am ready to offer. (Better sex, anytime)

It also come to the point that, I must say its weird that even such a thought come across my mind, that is if I think she is a good girl(regardless whether where she work or her reason for being here), spending any more time is just screwing up her life, cause money I no want give, love I not interested, only sex.
Ahh so all the better.

Going MIA, usually not a problem for me. Easiest of all.

Just that this one, I just thought of telling her, parting now is for the good for her (and for me as well obviously, but I am not going say that right?
Of course how it turns out may be interesting or "dangerous".

Dear TS,

After reading ur first post, my first idea is to ask u go ahead, dun need to handbrake. Why? Because u have already stated 2 big YET there. So chances are u know what and how good they can be... yes oscar winner we talking abt. So i thought it is safe enough for u to continue with her if u dun mind the sticky part, but only for the fun sake and not money, passport...

Good thing u also know yourself well, that deeper feelings may develop if it carries on and from the last post a good heart too. (which is a weakness that she can exploit) So Happy Go Missing.
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Give u some familiar sms..

PRC - 你现在也都不想我了,每个星期就一次都不愿意来。 也不管我了。
Me - don't bother to reply le...tired..
bro. I like to continue the sms, yesterday she sent again after 3 hrs no reply
from me... <This is a Singer..working in Sin currently>
The joint expects her to book 2 tables, 1 including “Show" and and another
1 during the week.
Since getting to know her, been helping 2 times, 1 week one time..
then suddently this month got so many Singers calling Quit and company
expect her to book 7 shows - she do not have much customers, so
expecting me to help...
The message last night.. go like these:

PRC - 以后你别跟我说你疼我。
Me - 如果你这样想,我没话可说了,我很失望。I CONTINUE..
如果做朋友是要用钱来衡量,那我会让你失望,因为我不够分量。
PRC -我们是成年人啦。这些话是不必说的。我当然要面包也要爱情噢。
那好就不必多话了。
Me - no reply from here....

The morale of the story - they are always never enough, now I learnt
my lesson well. My damage was small, per week less than 250.

All singers dun have the KC one.. they just 1 you to pour as much as possible
to their bank account so that they can bring home the monies to build their
love nest, or house or other......
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Which neither money nor passport nor love are any "commodity" I am ready to offer. (Better sex, anytime)

It also come to the point that, I must say its weird that even such a thought come across my mind, that is if I think she is a good girl(regardless whether where she work or her reason for being here), spending any more time is just screwing up her life, cause money I no want give, love I not interested, only sex.

hmm.. bro.. its seems that you already have your answer.
from this comment, i would rather u disappearing from this gal's life then to continue seeing her. in case she is really giving her all for the supposed relationship. u guys wouldnt wanna be kced and vice versa. ktv gals of fls also have feelings.. in TV shows also can see ma.. maybe initially she thought she wanna kc u but she ended up really falling for u? if u only want sex n obviously she's making her stand clear, i think its time to stop things from getting ugly.
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Re: Time to handbrake?

All these suggestions and advices shld be compiled into a booklet and given out free to all guys when they withdraw CPF.
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Re: Time to handbrake?

u shldnt MIA la...at least telll her u ending it...due to grandmother reasons la...

IF she really fall for u...she will feel very sad.....IF she is out to get some money from u...too bad for her la..

Cannot got head no tail leh....guy come out and play must have abit of standard la...KC or not is another matter...and free lunch or not is also another matter...

Good Luck dude...
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All these suggestions and advices shld be compiled into a booklet and given out free to all guys when they withdraw CPF.
haha...to those uncle whom withdraw CPF liao...if they got family one..then maybe they shld recall their marriage oath ages back...

If no family one...seriously...they spend their CPF monies on them...also bo bian...for a moment of song loh...at least he single and his family will not be wreck by his stupid actions...
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u shldnt MIA la...at least telll her u ending it...due to grandmother reasons la...

IF she really fall for u...she will feel very sad.....IF she is out to get some money from u...too bad for her la..

Cannot got head no tail leh....guy come out and play must have abit of standard la...KC or not is another matter...and free lunch or not is also another matter...

Good Luck dude...
I got no power to up you, I would if I could.(i think, pun not intended)
I do agree and respect your perspective
That's what got me thinking as part of the reason that I started this thread.
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you got this so perfectly correct. While happy ending is possible, maybe one in a million but I think for most of us, it's realistically stupid to do so when we do have the opportunity to find better stuffs as it goes along.
Hahaha, correct because apart from reading about the other bros' experiences, I went through most of them myself. Hate to use this phrase but "been there, done that".

Bro, I see that you are now fantasizing about various "plans" to test her reaction, thinking about whether to go MIA, etc, etc. I think this relationship is really bothering you a lot at this point in time.

I only have three words for you; let it go.

In your current state of mind, it is normally difficult to analyse matters logically. Let me try to help by going through a series of questions.

Assuming she did not love you at all, why should you get so worked up and emotional over this so-called relationship? What is it that you are after? You want to possess her and make her yours exclusively? If that is the case, are you really in love with her or merely want to own her? For most people, a strong degree of pride is involved. Pride in the sense that you do not like to lose.

Assuming she really was in love with you. The next question is then what? Are you going to marry her and live together happily ever after? Are you going to migrate to China or is she prepared to uproot from her immediate social circle and move over to Singapore? Even if she wants to move over to Singapore, getting citizenship or permanent residence status is not so easy even if you are married.

While I am not a Buddhist, I understand that one of the teachings is to recognise that all things are impermanent. The greater the desire to possess something, the greater your misery. Only if you are able to let it go, would you be able to reduce your misery. I would be grateful if the Buddhists amongst us could correct me if I am wrong on the above.

Just enjoy the memories of what you had and let it go bro. Makes life easier and happier for all concerned.

And I also agree with ShittyAss that you shouldn't just simply MIA. Must have some pride mah. I think you can even tell her that since there is no possibility of a happy ending between the two of you, you feel that it would be better to stop seeing each other. Even if you have to cut off ties, my personal view is that it can and should be done gracefully. Calm, logical, dignified.
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Re: Time to handbrake?

Me not an expert, but this is part of the 4 noble truths

""The greater the desire to possess something, the greater your misery.""

The origin of suffering

you are able to let it go, would you be able to reduce your misery.

The cessation of suffering
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Re: Time to handbrake?

Slider bro:
i'm pretty much thinking the same way you look at this whole thing.

I already have the answer to let go but all you bros here do gives very interesting insight into this whole thing.

In fact, my idea of this thread was more of how to let go. Didn't want to hurt her, that's of course me assuming she is being real. Then again, this kind of how, you can never ever really know. Stopping now, I think is the best for her and for myself, indeed.

I believe as a man, in life you must learn to let go, anything whenever necessary. Be it job, woman or money.

做男人,要拿的起,也放的下。

Gonna tell her properly over one decent dinner this week and that's it. Hopefully, she can return back to her "normal" life.
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