Just here to speak my mind. I've had my fair share of local FLs over the past couple of years (independents) who are not advertised here. Just wanna share my thoughts on trends that I've been observing over the years. I source my local FLs somewhere else. I take a glance through Dome L and noticed that it is very much prevalent here as well. I'm talking about forced deposits.
Back when I was sourcing for local FLs in 2017-2019 period (before covid). I managed to find many FLs to do what I want, which is typically BBBJ CIM (in car or outdoor if they're ballsy enough) quickies for decent pricings. (Below 200 a pop) I enjoy the thrill of the hunt and could occasionally get SYTs. This is the golden period of local FLs for me (not from SBF, I must reiterate). This time period, girls were aplenty. No such thing as deposits. Then came some who asked for taxi fares prior to meet. Amount wasn't big, $20-30, I blindly transferred, then got blocked after that. My first encounter with scammers, I was young, dumb and desperate then. It was probably in 2018. I got burnt a few times (2-3 times) with this deposit scam, they sure do get creative. Until I got scarred and swear off deposits.
Covid happened. Nobody could meet. During that period, the amount of local independent FLs dropped off drastically. Lots of the good ones have retired as they usually only appear if they need money. The best ones are those who appear just once, meet you, you have a smashing good time with them and then block you after they get their money. I understand because no girl will do this in the long run, mostly it's just to pay off debts to ease their financial liabilities. Things took a drastic turn and now post-covid, a lot stopped doing actual meet up services. In comes all those 'girls' selling 'nudes and videos'. Many of those who are scammers. (they block you the moment you counter them asking for a voice recording/tele video bubble call to verify if they're real females) In all honesty, i think this is a waste of money as I'm still traditional in a sense that I will only pay money for actual services in real life.
Then as the years went by, from your typical texting to arrange meetups in the most straight forward, no frills manner, it slowly moved towards the direction of 'no deposit, no booking'. From my past negative experiences with scammers, I cannot adhere to this. I get Vietnam flashbacks on my money disappearing and seeing me get blocked by these 'girls'. Why is this even a thing? Oh yes, they claim that guys waste their time or are no shows. I combat this by specifically saying, I drive to you, pick you up, we go to the location, pay you, do the deed and part ways. Does this sound good enough? They still insist on deposits, on top of the already very high asking price. Refusing to budge. (their prices went up drastically over the years too, whoreflation?) Price is subjective as every guy might perceive value differently. Maybe one guy is a high income earner and sees $1k per shot as peanuts to him? I don't actively source for local FLs and when I need to release as I observe the stock of girls between the SBF domes to see who meets my needs and has a balance between services, looks and price. Most of the time D1 does a good job to satisfy my needs.
Right now on to the crux of the issue. Forced deposits. Why is this even a thing? Or are simps ruining the market by giving in to these unnecessary requirements which wasn't a thing just a couple of years back? I also think the idea of 'rejection fees' are one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Have they placed these local FLs on a pedestal, giving into their demands that's why prices are going bonkers and putting strange unnecessary requirements to be a 'norm'? Notice how limited the service list is for local FLs lol. And they are asking a fortune. Some girls from other domes have considerably bigger boobs (most local FLs chests are just too tiny as a boob lover myself, C cup is a joke to me) looks better than them, does way more services, treats like you a king, you go home a happy, satisfied man after the session and pay just a fraction of the price. I mean, let fools part with their hard-earned money, I guess. Are simps the root of the problem allowing all this to happen? To add on, giving in to deposits, puts them a position above you as they already have secured let's say $100 and whenever they feel like being unreasonable, especially with female logic, they can decide to not honor the deal and your deposit is up in smoke. It's a win for them and if you complain, the white knights will come to her defense. You'll always be in the losing situation should she get the deposit money first prior to the session. I think I also need to mention how the new gen of younger FLs are snowflakes in a way that every small thing offends them and their knee jerk reaction is to block you and clear chat in an instant (on telegram). Do you still wanna pay a deposit to these kind of local FLs lol? This is just not right, in my opinion. Just remember, dudes. You are the paymaster. Do the right thing.
Thank you for listening to my TED Talk.
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Agree with you bro.. whether in Local FL or or them in the dating market even, many are no longer worth the buck. Too many stupid restrictions and requirements set. Once I see them start demanding deposits, I skip them. Same for rejection fees, just don’t bother with booking them anymore.
That's what I've been talking about ever since I noticed deposits/rejection fees only for local FLs.
Their time is not deemed as more valuable than our own time spent travelling down to meet them in person.
My approach towards FL and ML is always the same, pay in person only after meeting and making sure I'm okay with the person, though it'll be mostly 10% to 20% difference due to PS/filters lol.
Agree with you bro.. whether in Local FL or or them in the dating market even, many are no longer worth the buck. Too many stupid restrictions and requirements set. Once I see them start demanding deposits, I skip them. Same for rejection fees, just don’t bother with booking them anymore.
I view this as a form of entitlement for only local FLs. IMO I think they are getting bigheaded because they think the SG passport or former occupation they have can give them the right to charge sky high prices. Can they serve us like kings in comparison to FLs from other domes (who charge a mere fraction of their asking price) given their extremely limited list of services? I think 99% of them don't even do CIM. Some no BBBJ even. lol golden mouth princess syndrome.
That's what I've been talking about ever since I noticed deposits/rejection fees only for local FLs.
Their time is not deemed as more valuable than our own time spent travelling down to meet them in person.
My approach towards FL and ML is always the same, pay in person only after meeting and making sure I'm okay with the person, though it'll be mostly 10% to 20% difference due to PS/filters lol.
That's why I insist on picking them up. I go to them. They stay fucking put. If they still reject and insist on deposits then I really see this as greed on their end to secure some form of payment from us first before even anything is done. And the deposits are not cheap either. If like basic transport costs, it won't be as bad but $100? lmao they think we are walking ATM beta cuck simps? How in the world will I 'cheat' if I can update them I'm on my way with live location services. That's why I see this as a scummy move on their end. Not to mention how it is associated with scams as well (they started this deposit before meet thing way before and will block you after agreeing to a session once they secure the money). Only their time is money and ours isn't?
I find there's no point blaming the supply when its the demand creating the market.
For each that walks away from deposit, there may be at least 3 willing to go along with it.
The supply can rightly say there are always some who never turns up, but a deposit of $50-$100 or more to counter that seems very one sided when the demand has not seen the fl in rl yet.
Furthermore with cons increasing, a loss of $50-$100++ is not really the point, but the disappointment when you are ready for a new experience and good time only for it to all go bust.
I think Dome 1 should also have missed appointments, but don't see them asking for deposits.
Regardless, the demand has to wise up and walk away, or the supply will just keep asking for deposits.
Well written bro. Totally agree with all your points. The self entitlement in our local FLs are just atrocious. Upped you before le, so can't up you again.
Well written bro. Totally agree with all your points. The self entitlement in our local FLs are just atrocious. Upped you before le, so can't up you again.
In an ideal world without simps, us sensible men will close our wallets to them and they will have to succumb to our requests/demands instead after they realize they can't make any money. I wish this is reality.
Just here to speak my mind. I've had my fair share of local FLs over the past couple of years (independents) who are not advertised here. Just wanna share my thoughts on trends that I've been observing over the years. I source my local FLs somewhere else. I take a glance through Dome L and noticed that it is very much prevalent here as well. I'm talking about forced deposits.
Back when I was sourcing for local FLs in 2017-2019 period (before covid). I managed to find many FLs to do what I want, which is typically BBBJ CIM (in car or outdoor if they're ballsy enough) quickies for decent pricings. (Below 200 a pop) I enjoy the thrill of the hunt and could occasionally get SYTs. This is the golden period of local FLs for me (not from SBF, I must reiterate). This time period, girls were aplenty. No such thing as deposits. Then came some who asked for taxi fares prior to meet. Amount wasn't big, $20-30, I blindly transferred, then got blocked after that. My first encounter with scammers, I was young, dumb and desperate then. It was probably in 2018. I got burnt a few times (2-3 times) with this deposit scam, they sure do get creative. Until I got scarred and swear off deposits.
Covid happened. Nobody could meet. During that period, the amount of local independent FLs dropped off drastically. Lots of the good ones have retired as they usually only appear if they need money. The best ones are those who appear just once, meet you, you have a smashing good time with them and then block you after they get their money. I understand because no girl will do this in the long run, mostly it's just to pay off debts to ease their financial liabilities. Things took a drastic turn and now post-covid, a lot stopped doing actual meet up services. In comes all those 'girls' selling 'nudes and videos'. Many of those who are scammers. (they block you the moment you counter them asking for a voice recording/tele video bubble call to verify if they're real females) In all honesty, i think this is a waste of money as I'm still traditional in a sense that I will only pay money for actual services in real life.
Then as the years went by, from your typical texting to arrange meetups in the most straight forward, no frills manner, it slowly moved towards the direction of 'no deposit, no booking'. From my past negative experiences with scammers, I cannot adhere to this. I get Vietnam flashbacks on my money disappearing and seeing me get blocked by these 'girls'. Why is this even a thing? Oh yes, they claim that guys waste their time or are no shows. I combat this by specifically saying, I drive to you, pick you up, we go to the location, pay you, do the deed and part ways. Does this sound good enough? They still insist on deposits, on top of the already very high asking price. Refusing to budge. (their prices went up drastically over the years too, whoreflation?) Price is subjective as every guy might perceive value differently. Maybe one guy is a high income earner and sees $1k per shot as peanuts to him? I don't actively source for local FLs and when I need to release as I observe the stock of girls between the SBF domes to see who meets my needs and has a balance between services, looks and price. Most of the time D1 does a good job to satisfy my needs.
Right now on to the crux of the issue. Forced deposits. Why is this even a thing? Or are simps ruining the market by giving in to these unnecessary requirements which wasn't a thing just a couple of years back? I also think the idea of 'rejection fees' are one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Have they placed these local FLs on a pedestal, giving into their demands that's why prices are going bonkers and putting strange unnecessary requirements to be a 'norm'? Notice how limited the service list is for local FLs lol. And they are asking a fortune. Some girls from other domes have considerably bigger boobs (most local FLs chests are just too tiny as a boob lover myself, C cup is a joke to me) looks better than them, does way more services, treats like you a king, you go home a happy, satisfied man after the session and pay just a fraction of the price. I mean, let fools part with their hard-earned money, I guess. Are simps the root of the problem allowing all this to happen? To add on, giving in to deposits, puts them a position above you as they already have secured let's say $100 and whenever they feel like being unreasonable, especially with female logic, they can decide to not honor the deal and your deposit is up in smoke. It's a win for them and if you complain, the white knights will come to her defense. You'll always be in the losing situation should she get the deposit money first prior to the session. I think I also need to mention how the new gen of younger FLs are snowflakes in a way that every small thing offends them and their knee jerk reaction is to block you and clear chat in an instant (on telegram). Do you still wanna pay a deposit to these kind of local FLs lol? This is just not right, in my opinion. Just remember, dudes. You are the paymaster. Do the right thing.
Thank you for listening to my TED Talk.
In short yes. Singaporean men are mostly cuckold simps especially when it comes to local FLs.
Meanwhile as for the local FLs, I guess most of them have the typical Singaporean mentality i.e. want high pay but don't want to put in the work and have crazy demands because they think they hold Singaporean passport which automatically puts them above other whores. One particular FL even have the cheek to insult her clients online. Yet still there are people patronising them. What can i say other than Singaporean men are just fucking dumb with too much money.
Same for the deposit thingy. Look i get there might be idiots that book and do a no show without informing, but agents asking for deposits? Like wtf?! That is a business risk an agent has to take otherwise why the fuck are you even pimping? Yet idiots still pay!
In short yes. Singaporean men are mostly cuckold simps especially when it comes to local FLs.
Meanwhile as for the local FLs, I guess most of them have the typical Singaporean mentality i.e. want high pay but don't want to put in the work and have crazy demands because they think they hold Singaporean passport which automatically puts them above other whores. One particular FL even have the cheek to insult her clients online. Yet still there are people patronising them. What can i say other than Singaporean men are just fucking dumb with too much money.
Same for the deposit thingy. Look i get there might be idiots that book and do a no show without informing, but agents asking for deposits? Like wtf?! That is a business risk an agent has to take otherwise why the fuck are you even pimping? Yet idiots still pay!
Exactly. Just passport you hold SG passport and can speak English, they think they automatically belong in to the 'premium' bracket. But no tits, no skills, no looks, restrictions everywhere, no this, no that yet want to command a premium sum when they have nothing to offer. I remember I had beef with one fucking rude local FL from another platform and then I saw her also being advertised here. Really attitude problem and her thread had only glazing reviews of her, lmao who believes all this fake shit. Even on the other platform, when people write negative reviews on her, she'll go ballistic and start attacking people online. Bitch is mental. Level of entitlement is beyond my comprehension.
I view this as a form of entitlement for only local FLs. IMO I think they are getting bigheaded because they think the SG passport or former occupation they have can give them the right to charge sky high prices. Can they serve us like kings in comparison to FLs from other domes (who charge a mere fraction of their asking price) given their extremely limited list of services? I think 99% of them don't even do CIM. Some no BBBJ even. lol golden mouth princess syndrome.
It's already been known for centuries that local FL is not worth the price they are putting on themselves. Yet there are many white knights/simps and their clones defending them.
Any FL that asks for deposit is a scammer, period. And any FL that worth their salt knows they won't get aeroplane from their customers because they know if customers book them confirm want to see them. Unless there are stupid idiots who likes to prank the FLs but this is highly unlikely in Singapore.
It's already been known for centuries that local FL is not worth the price they are putting on themselves. Yet there are many white knights/simps and their clones defending them.
Any FL that asks for deposit is a scammer, period. And any FL that worth their salt knows they won't get aeroplane from their customers because they know if customers book them confirm want to see them. Unless there are stupid idiots who likes to prank the FLs but this is highly unlikely in Singapore.
I mean there are assholes out there who are no shows and wanna waste time, but let's be honest, how low is that percentage? There are SO MANY ways to counter the need for deposits. Local FLs are so entitled that they just dont wanna admit that they're greedy and hard up for that deposit to secure money before even doing anything.
I agreed 100%. all these deposit rejection fee nonsense gotta stop. Those fking filthy rich players go snd fuck yrself instead of spoiling and pampered these golden sissy
Get this more value for money. HAHAHA.
2 times per week = 8 times per month
$3500/8=$437.50 per fuck session.
Unfortunately, it's only b cup and there is no anal. HAHAHA.
I dont like these monthly arrangements because the girl can be a POS and give excuses to not have sex because she already has been paid in a lump sum. It's too much of a risk unless your name is Robert and have too much money to waste.
My experience with local FLs over the years have been extremely mixed. A lot of last minute cancellations with the lamest excuses ever. Like this still want to take the high risk of paying a monthly lump sum ah? B cup = no boobs to me.
Just here to speak my mind. I've had my fair share of local FLs over the past couple of years (independents) who are not advertised here. Just wanna share my thoughts on trends that I've been observing over the years. I source my local FLs somewhere else. I take a glance through Dome L and noticed that it is very much prevalent here as well. I'm talking about forced deposits.
Back when I was sourcing for local FLs in 2017-2019 period (before covid). I managed to find many FLs to do what I want, which is typically BBBJ CIM (in car or outdoor if they're ballsy enough) quickies for decent pricings. (Below 200 a pop) I enjoy the thrill of the hunt and could occasionally get SYTs. This is the golden period of local FLs for me (not from SBF, I must reiterate). This time period, girls were aplenty. No such thing as deposits. Then came some who asked for taxi fares prior to meet. Amount wasn't big, $20-30, I blindly transferred, then got blocked after that. My first encounter with scammers, I was young, dumb and desperate then. It was probably in 2018. I got burnt a few times (2-3 times) with this deposit scam, they sure do get creative. Until I got scarred and swear off deposits.
Covid happened. Nobody could meet. During that period, the amount of local independent FLs dropped off drastically. Lots of the good ones have retired as they usually only appear if they need money. The best ones are those who appear just once, meet you, you have a smashing good time with them and then block you after they get their money. I understand because no girl will do this in the long run, mostly it's just to pay off debts to ease their financial liabilities. Things took a drastic turn and now post-covid, a lot stopped doing actual meet up services. In comes all those 'girls' selling 'nudes and videos'. Many of those who are scammers. (they block you the moment you counter them asking for a voice recording/tele video bubble call to verify if they're real females) In all honesty, i think this is a waste of money as I'm still traditional in a sense that I will only pay money for actual services in real life.
Then as the years went by, from your typical texting to arrange meetups in the most straight forward, no frills manner, it slowly moved towards the direction of 'no deposit, no booking'. From my past negative experiences with scammers, I cannot adhere to this. I get Vietnam flashbacks on my money disappearing and seeing me get blocked by these 'girls'. Why is this even a thing? Oh yes, they claim that guys waste their time or are no shows. I combat this by specifically saying, I drive to you, pick you up, we go to the location, pay you, do the deed and part ways. Does this sound good enough? They still insist on deposits, on top of the already very high asking price. Refusing to budge. (their prices went up drastically over the years too, whoreflation?) Price is subjective as every guy might perceive value differently. Maybe one guy is a high income earner and sees $1k per shot as peanuts to him? I don't actively source for local FLs and when I need to release as I observe the stock of girls between the SBF domes to see who meets my needs and has a balance between services, looks and price. Most of the time D1 does a good job to satisfy my needs.
Right now on to the crux of the issue. Forced deposits. Why is this even a thing? Or are simps ruining the market by giving in to these unnecessary requirements which wasn't a thing just a couple of years back? I also think the idea of 'rejection fees' are one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Have they placed these local FLs on a pedestal, giving into their demands that's why prices are going bonkers and putting strange unnecessary requirements to be a 'norm'? Notice how limited the service list is for local FLs lol. And they are asking a fortune. Some girls from other domes have considerably bigger boobs (most local FLs chests are just too tiny as a boob lover myself, C cup is a joke to me) looks better than them, does way more services, treats like you a king, you go home a happy, satisfied man after the session and pay just a fraction of the price. I mean, let fools part with their hard-earned money, I guess. Are simps the root of the problem allowing all this to happen? To add on, giving in to deposits, puts them a position above you as they already have secured let's say $100 and whenever they feel like being unreasonable, especially with female logic, they can decide to not honor the deal and your deposit is up in smoke. It's a win for them and if you complain, the white knights will come to her defense. You'll always be in the losing situation should she get the deposit money first prior to the session. I think I also need to mention how the new gen of younger FLs are snowflakes in a way that every small thing offends them and their knee jerk reaction is to block you and clear chat in an instant (on telegram). Do you still wanna pay a deposit to these kind of local FLs lol? This is just not right, in my opinion. Just remember, dudes. You are the paymaster. Do the right thing.
Thank you for listening to my TED Talk.
Well written.
I get your point.
But...i would submit that nearly all of those asking depo etc are BOT freelance at all...the REAL ones are not so doing...and are not on the sites in question which are indeed the lucrative hunting grounds of scammers scalping the gullible.
The real fl...inclding some with sensible pricing are, for examp, on suga, other SM sites.
Early Dec i got a 24yo office gal off such a hookup site..did her at hotel in bencolleen for 350...inlcuded patg her back her taxi.
100% genuine..
I saw her ic and her work place badge.
02-01-2026, 02:06 AM
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