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Old 14-02-2009, 08:22 PM
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Need some advises from seniors here

For myself, I chiong less than 5 times..
my last chiong was to meet this FL , working in a massage parlour..

she shows interest in me, do not want to let me leave after the session.
Traded handphone number..

Thereafter, next day, she got her health check record and shows to me, ok
cool enough HIV - non reactive, with TB non reactive as well.

ok she stayed in my home for a mth, i do not allows her to work..
she agreed, and what i want her to do is to study hard for english ..
everyday i went home, i will test her.
she manage to score 60% for spelling test and stuffs i given her..
Thereafter, she has got 1 relative in singapore who is a FL as well.
She married to a singaporean and is quite well being due to the fact she is the boss of around 3 parlours..
This relative of hers, do not allow her to stay in my house due to the fact that we are not married.
She wants us to be married before she allows it.
Ok then, for the 1 mth, we have slight plan of getting married.
But then, i suggested that I should go China with her first to meet him parents up before anything else.
She agreed, and we bought ticket and about to go.

Ok, Next, There is this 1 day where my relative has her child (full month) celebration and we all went including this 'gf' of mine.

Ok, then, you know my mum start telling my other relatives that I am going to china... Thereafter, my all these relatives were like asking this 'gf' of mine.. thinking that she might KC me if she remains my gf and even future wife.

My relatives all disagreed of me going china with her, confiscated my passport and drove my 'gf' out of the house
There are like 10 over relatives coming over my house that day..

Ok, my this 'gf' returns to her relative house and got scolded by her relative.
Her relative mention says : " SEE! told you not to move to his house , not you SEE? got drove out! "

Ok, we were forced to break up by my relatives and we were apart for like 2 days and I decided that I should call her and meet up.

She agrees, and i suggested that can elope?

She agrees, and we rented a room currently..

Now she is back to the trade due to the fact that, my relatives droven her out and I did not oppose to this act.
She blamed me for this and she is now back to the trade.

Now, she trusted me alot .. and I somehow trust her as well.. despite what we have been through..

1 mth i spend roughly 250 paying our rented room, and every time we go out to eat, she will pays and i only needs to pay her 100 every mth for the meals we had..
she also likes to go sing ktv alot and she will pay for it as well.
she likes to order beer which i really do not know how to drink and force myself to swallow it..

Ok, now my question is..
We have been together for 3 mths since we know last november..
We always been together and.. should I still continues?

How to see if she love me? or she is just here for the PR ?. .

Anyway, she holds a student pass now.
For myself, I have low expectation of my wife.
As long she loves me,I will marry her..
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Re: Need some advises from seniors here

Dear Razermouse

Before giving you any advice, I hope you can answer your own question first.

Ok, now my question is..
We have been together for 3 mths since we know last november..
We always been together and.. should I still continues?


Can you discontinue? Only a yes or no will do.
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Re: Need some advises from seniors here

How old r you ? How old is yr GF ?
No offence,seems like more and more S'porean guys r falling in love with PRC gals.
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Re: Need some advises from seniors here

For myself, I chiong less than 5 times..
my last chiong was to meet this FL , working in a massage parlour..
Ok, since you've only cheong for 5 times, to allow all the seniors here to help you better, i would appreciate if you could answer the following questions:
1) How old are you
2) Are you working
3) If so, how long have you been working
4) How much are you drawing
5) Do you own your own property
6) Do you own a car
7) Do you have your own credit cards (Parents sub card no count hor)


she shows interest in me, do not want to let me leave after the session.
Traded handphone number..
Ask yourself a very simple question, if you like a gal after you had dinner with her, no matter how much you have a crush on her or how infatuated wif her, would you let her leave?

Thereafter, next day, she got her health check record and shows to me, ok
cool enough HIV - non reactive, with TB non reactive as well.
HIV and TB does not constitute to STDs

ok she stayed in my home for a mth, i do not allows her to work..
How long did you both know each other before she moved in with you???

she agreed, and what i want her to do is to study hard for english ..
everyday i went home, i will test her.
she manage to score 60% for spelling test and stuffs i given her..
Does she go to school here or full time massage parlour? If so, who's giving her the tuition?????

Thereafter, she has got 1 relative in singapore who is a FL as well.
She married to a singaporean and is quite well being due to the fact she is the boss of around 3 parlours..
This relative of hers, do not allow her to stay in my house due to the fact that we are not married.
She wants us to be married before she allows it.
Look at her relative. An ex WL who married probably one of her clients...well, isnt it obvious why she wants your chick to marry you before moving in? To me, it's emotional entrapment...remember, she's a prostitute, what MORLAL VALUES toking she??????????

Ok then, for the 1 mth, we have slight plan of getting married.
But then, i suggested that I should go China with her first to meet him parents up before anything else.
She agreed, and we bought ticket and about to go.
Fair move but how long have you all been together before you embark on this journey? Also, do note, many will fake families, addresses etc when they bring a man home, so you've been warned!

Ok, Next, There is this 1 day where my relative has her child (full month) celebration and we all went including this 'gf' of mine.
Ok, then, you know my mum start telling my other relatives that I am going to china... Thereafter, my all these relatives were like asking this 'gf' of mine.. thinking that she might KC me if she remains my gf and even future wife.
My relatives all disagreed of me going china with her, confiscated my passport and drove my 'gf' out of the house
There are like 10 over relatives coming over my house that day..
Remember, bystanders can see and feel thing better than you...cos they're neutral and thus not affected by love, emotions watsoever unlike you. I'm not saying they're right but hey, ten people can't just come to the same conclusion without something valid right? Before you go about freaking at what they all did, maybe you wanna sit down wif them without your WL and ask them Y and wat led them to such a unanimous conclusion but listen wif your brain, not your heart!

Ok, my this 'gf' returns to her relative house and got scolded by her relative.
Her relative mention says : " SEE! told you not to move to his house , not you SEE? got drove out! "
I know you feel for her but be careful of wat she says. Wat transpired there only she knows.....think about this for a second.
You have a nephew, fell in love with a woman and wants to move in with her. You object bigtime etc etc that idiot still moves into that gals house.
Next something happens and he comes crying back to you.
You as an uncle, will you try to console him, yes fuck him a bit here and there but still console him or kick him out of your house????? This has DEBUNKED her story liao!


Ok, we were forced to break up by my relatives and we were apart for like 2 days and I decided that I should call her and meet up.
She agrees, and i suggested that can elope?
She agrees, and we rented a room currently..
This part understandable....many here knows how you feel being apart wif her

Now she is back to the trade due to the fact that, my relatives droven her out and I did not oppose to this act.
She blamed me for this and she is now back to the trade.
There's always 2 sides to a coin, but since i already DEBUNKED her story above, think whether she blames you or not is not important liao.
For her to blame you, one the otherside of the coin, is to make you sorry for what you did, thus submit to her watever requests......reverse psychology dude....careful careful


Now, she trusted me alot .. and I somehow trust her as well.. despite what we have been through..
Honestly, in here, dun tell us how she feel or think cos you cannot CONFIRM what you're saying about her is true or not or even just an act.
For you to say you trust her, that we sure believe u.

1 mth i spend roughly 250 paying our rented room, and every time we go out to eat, she will pays and i only needs to pay her 100 every mth for the meals we had..
she also likes to go sing ktv alot and she will pay for it as well.
she likes to order beer which i really do not know how to drink and force myself to swallow it..
Sounds like a fairytale dude, your story or situation reveals that you're not a man in control but a controlled man....you're swimming in shark infested water dude!!!!!

Ok, now my question is..
We have been together for 3 mths since we know last november..
We always been together and.. should I still continues?
So short go so many issues liao.
By your story, you're like really investing peanuts and getting the meat.......just enjoy the ride but DO NOT have high expectations on the outcome.


How to see if she love me? or she is just here for the PR ?. .
Time reveals everything, ask yourself a simple question...since you were a kid till now, are you are witty person?
By talking to her, do you think she's simple or more witty than you?
What have your friends advised you to do?


Anyway, she holds a student pass now.
This is not important dude

For myself, I have low expectation of my wife.
As long she loves me,I will marry her..
Be careful of what you wish for!!!!!!!!!!!!
She can say she loves you all the time, get married, you cant afford to give her the minimum expectations she wants, she continues being fucked by many men and no matter how toolan you get, she say i love you enuff liao meh??????????
Please be realistic....
You dont get married cos of love, you get married cos you and your partner have decided to settle down already and want to start a family together.........
By many of your words, you seem very young but i'll wait for your reply to all of the above before i continue.
Waiting for you!
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Re: Need some advises from seniors here

3 months is definitely too short to know a person well-more so if the other party is from another country.

Many people marry their local partners after years of courtship and yet the marriage falls apart.

The price of a failed marriage/divorce for a guy in Singapore is very very high.
Read the Women's Charter .You may remain loyal but there is nothing to stop her from walking out of the marríage once she gets her PR .

I think its better to wait for at least one to two years and see whether the relationship can stand the test of time. Of course there is always the fear of losing the "only or special one " .Believe me, I have yet to meet a guy who after a few years of marriage will not meet another more special or charming one.
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just be careful bro. k ? =D
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Re: Need some advises from seniors here

Ya TS from your posting it seems that you are still quite young . If you really want to be with her have to consider alot of factors also, Eg. will your parents accept her in the family? how much do you know about her family? Can she suporrt herself or you have to support her? Are you able to support the both of you?

You know her for 1 month and you have slight plan of getting married . You sure you thinking with your big head and not your small one?
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Bro DO_YOU_BJ, u should set up a love doc clinic here.
1 time see u $5/30min can liao.
I help u setup, profit sharing.
U 8, I 2 can liao.
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Re: Need some advises from seniors here

Dear TS,

You should listen to bro Do UBJ. He knows what h is talking about. The big question is how old you are and also how well do you know the lady They may not want your money, but your passport is also worth something. And some more if you give them that, they can start to bring the whole clan ove here. I do realize that you may feel very stressed and agitated at the situation, however you need to take a step back. You were her client for how many times? How long did you know her before asking her to move in? And how long did it take for her to consider? In a "normal" boy girl relationship, you will probably go through the stage of pak tor, den she will sleep over, then after a few months, maybe will move in, if it all goes smoothly. No matter whether she is WL or Fl and you have sex on the first time, no that does not mean you do not need the period to get to know her better. So please take a step back, think about what you want and how much you want to put into this before doing anything else.

I wish you luck and happiness but no matter what, you must also, she must also respect your respective family's wishes hor. Because before you were together, your family was there, and if anything goes wrong, they will also still be there.
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Re: Need some advises from seniors here

[QUOTE=DO_YOU_BJ;3479408]For myself, I chiong less than 5 times..
my last chiong was to meet this FL , working in a massage parlour..
Ok, since you've only cheong for 5 times, to allow all the seniors here to help you better, i would appreciate if you could answer the following questions:
1) How old are you
2) Are you working
3) If so, how long have you been working
4) How much are you drawing
5) Do you own your own property
6) Do you own a car
7) Do you have your own credit cards (Parents sub card no count hor)


1) I just reach 25, she is 25 as well
2) I am working
3) I been working for 3 years
4) I am drawing 2.5k per mth
5) property belongs to my parents' name (my parents are 67 and 70 of age) I am the only child
6) I owns a bike
7) Nope! no CC ..
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Re: Need some advises from seniors here

Ask yourself a very simple question, if you like a gal after you had dinner with her, no matter how much you have a crush on her or how infatuated wif her, would you let her leave?

If that girl is normal, of coz i will allows her to leave, if not she will be pissed with me especially singaporean type of girl

How long did you both know each other before she moved in with you???

First day i went that parlour and i bring her go drink and I bring her back home.. First day my mum saw her and start to scold her big time (coz it is like 12 midnight) resulted her crying.. and i'm there consoling..
She left workplace half an hour earlier than normal cus she wanna go drink initially, and I bike her to my neighbour place



Does she go to school here or full time massage parlour? If so, who's giving her the tuition?????

Yes, she needs to go to school and have at least 80% of attendance rate..
I am the only one teaching her.. Now, she left my house, her result isnt that good as she returns to work


Look at her relative. An ex WL who married probably one of her clients...well, isnt it obvious why she wants your chick to marry you before moving in? To me, it's emotional entrapment...remember, she's a prostitute, what MORLAL VALUES toking she??????????

This I am not very sure, she only told me, she is not allowed to move in to live with a male with offically marrying him.

Fair move but how long have you all been together before you embark on this journey? Also, do note, many will fake families, addresses etc when they bring a man home, so you've been warned!

I have already spoken to her big sister, big sister in law, father, mother, 2 younger sister and one of her younger sister-in-law.. And also we QQ and I saw how her sisters look like already


I know you feel for her but be careful of wat she says. Wat transpired there only she knows.....think about this for a second.
You have a nephew, fell in love with a woman and wants to move in with her. You object bigtime etc etc that idiot still moves into that gals house.
Next something happens and he comes crying back to you.
You as an uncle, will you try to console him, yes fuck him a bit here and there but still console him or kick him out of your house????? This has DEBUNKED her story liao!

If I have such a nephew. I will scold him big time and I will warn him not to go to her again. If he doesnt listen, I will kick him out


Time reveals everything, ask yourself a simple question...since you were a kid till now, are you are witty person?
By talking to her, do you think she's simple or more witty than you?
What have your friends advised you to do?

She is even more witty than me. I am just a very childish in mind kind of person


She trusts me with $$ now, asking me to deposit $$ for her..
And also! We go remit $$ to china at China town every week. She needs to send back 20k SGD and she has already done it .

I have again went KTV partyworld with her yesterday, spent around 200 on dinner and KTV. She pays it all.
My wallet is empty! my bank account left SGD 3!!
The rest are in my MSA and OUB account which I cannot withdraw without a need..

Ok, My $$ breakdown is .

my monthly drawn pay is 2k (after cpf deduction)
I will save 1.1k up to MSA
900 to spend..

300 bucks I give parent
250 give our rental
350 I use it for myself

thats about it..

Hope seniors can give some valuable advice.
Appreciate it..
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Her nephews want her to leave me cus she thinks that I might not be clean.

Wants me to go do a medical checkup cus I know my 'gf' from that sort of place, so of cuz i do went others as well ..

I told her that, I do not go this sort of place often.. but they just wont believe
I have told my this gf to go with me to checkup, and she is fine with it as well.
for the past 2 days she come home at 8pm - suppose to stop work at 10pm ..
she rented the whole shop by herself, due to the fact that it belongs to her cousin that went to china for 2 mths already
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I am actually quite fearful to stay with her..
Scare of myself containminated with diseases and such..

She and me bascially always have protected intercourse..
Just 1 thing that I am afraid of is BBBJ..

For oral intercourse I only 'attack' her boobies... and did fingering on her..

And we always bathe together ..

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As such, she seems to be nice lady..
make sandwich for me before I goes to work.. Buy mango and oranges for me to help my eyes as she knows I need to face the monitor alot..
Help me tidy my bottom of my jeans with the shoe as I always anyhow..
Help me make my hair nice nice before we go out..
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Re: Need some advises from seniors here

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but no matter what, you must also, she must also respect your respective family's wishes hor. Because before you were together, your family was there, and if anything goes wrong, they will also still be there.
Well spoken bro.

To add, I also read that she was back into the trade?
As far as i know, if a working gal truely value and wants to be with you, she will not go back into the trade. She knew the act is not making the guy felt better and may sour the relationship but she does it anyway. This can only shows a tell-tale sign: The relationship is not the first priority.

Certainly being a FL was for the money. So it also tells us about the TS. He isn't financially ready and also, she is not ready to be poor again.
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