Some random thoughts about STD/HIV

Smeagol · #1 10-04-2005, 03:54 PM

There have been quite a number of STD/HIV discussions both in the forum as well in the press. I'm thinking about what are really the risks out there in the meat market.....

Well these are just some of my random thoughts, purely rationalizing from my head. No solid research done and please do not consider my hypothesis as solid facts

OK... so what's out there in the market?

GL/Petain/KS legal sex workers
Yes we know they have to do regular check ups and Dr Balaji said for the last 2 years, GL has been HIV free. However Dr Balaji did not mention about other STDs. Well bros who have tried these legal workers will know that their service are way better than the average HC, GL illegals, FL or KTV hostess. Most do BBBJ without Condom... not to mention the ass rimming, frenching, toe sucking stunts. Of course majority insist on condoms for fj but bear in mind many other STD (herpes, Syphilis, Hep-B) can be contracted from BBBJ, AR and frenching hor. Moreover these girls are heavily used. Just try to do a mental calculation. They could be fucking 30~100 different guys a month. Imagine the number of cheongster they bedded over the years. I cannot help it but be really amazed that most of these girls still are HIV/STD free.... bearing in mind the chances of a girls contracting HIV/STD is higher than a guy in the event of unprotected sex. Which may also mean as long as your dick is well wrapped by a good quality condom, chances of getting STD/HIV is really really really low, also considering that we definitely fuck less frequent than these legal sex workers. Well I hardly go GL because it's so easy to get spotted by people.

HC/TN illegals
Ok... this group of workers may not require the regular health checks. Well since they are into the sex industry, I believe they can be as heavily used as the GL legals, meaning they also bedded 30~100 different guys a month. On average, most of these girls insist on bj and fj with condom. Ass rim is rather uncommon. Comparing them to GL legals... their chances of getting HIV and STD should be lower right?? What do you think? Well I tried to avoid HC as well because if kennak raided with pants down.... also sibei jialat.

GL illegals
Now this group is usually from overseas. Several categories, PRCs, Thais, Indians and the recently more common Ang Mohs. I've only tried the PRCs, so cannot really comment about the rest. On average, the PRCs service is about HC standard. Most insist on BJ, FJ with condom. AR is rare. Since they dun work round the year in Singapore, I would think that they are less heavily used relative to the GL legals. Does that mean they will also be relative safer than the GL legals. Maybe yes, may no. One thing we do not know is what they do in their home countries. Maybe they fucked even more different men back home... maybe even more daring services. Well we all heard some rumors are disease ridden illegal GL workers.... so are they a safer bet?? I don't really know for sure. Anyway... I don't used them anymore.

FL illegals
Now these come under several sub-categories

Local FL (Cheaper ones)
This group is probably not as frequently used and most of them provide crappy services. However, we seem to hear the most STD/HIV rumors from this group. Why leh?? Maybe there are really some very uneducated FLs out there who just don't give shit, always offering raw jobs. These are the really dangerous ones. Anyway... I don't used them anymore.

Local FL (Expensive ones)
This group is rather unheard of. They have special agents and cater to rather exclusive clientele. For an hour of fun, no less than 500 bucks. Most are educated girls with normal jobs but just doing occasional FL for that extra $$$. Considering their objectives and prices, I would think that they are not overly used. BJ, FJ with condom is a must. Logically speaking, they are lower HIV/STD risk.... but confim risk to my wallet/bank account

Foreign FL (Thai, PRC, Kor, Japs, Myanmar, Russian etc)
I would consider this group similar to GL illegals and the cheaper local illegals. Some provide very daring services too though not as heavily used. But gawd knows what they do in their home countries. I kinda avoid the Thais, PRCs, Myanmar’s and Ang Mohs. Occasionally I still do the Japs and Koreans.... simply because these girls have their own life back in their country.... they are here to make quick bucks and not interested in dying young. Moreover, HIV incidence in Jap/Kor is relatively lower than Thai, PRC, Russian

KTV
Again several categories
PRC.... cheaper KTVs unlike Dy, TAM, Lido palace etc may be more desperate and heavily used. I would think that they are somewhat similar to GL PRC illegals in terms if HIV/STD risk.

Local .... The Chinese hardly offer to fuck anyway. If there are any you guys know... pls let me know hor. As for the Malay... my gawd I think they are risky. So many I know offer to fuck raw in the kTV room. I think they are risky.... I would avoid at all cost.

M'sian ..... some do offer sex for $$$ Think they would be even safer than GL legals or even HC illegals

Viets..... I would think they come under the same risk categories as the cheap KTVs PRCs

Anyway.... these are just some of my boh liao random thoughts...... feel free to comment and flame lah :P

sammyboyfor · #2 11-04-2005, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Smeagol

Anyway.... these are just some of my boh liao random thoughts...... feel free to comment and flame lah :P

Rather than generalise according to race, language or religion, I would propose that the best way to access risk is at an individual level.

Regardless of where the whore is from, if she is willing to perform risky acts with you, you can bet your sweet life that she has done the same with other customers.

If she insists on protection for everything including oral sex, she's one smart cookie who knows the risks involved and what needs to be done to minimise them.

#3 11-04-2005, 08:41 AM

With all the press stories about it the Goverment is probably planning a crackdown in some area or another and is getting the justification stories out in advance.

KKHHLOVE · #4 11-04-2005, 01:57 PM

Quite a detailed analysis although, like you say, unsubstantiated.

But would a normal person go thru such a analysis before he goes to GL/KS/KTV/HC? No. When you go to such places, you are ruled not by your heart, definitely not by your brain but by your prick. I think there is no such thing as a high risk group or a low risk group. If you are down in your luck, you'll get farked by one gal with STD in the low risk group. On the other hand, if you are damn lucky, even if you always go to the high risk group, you may escape with no problem.

Maybe in the end, pakchiucheng is the safest.

ang076 · #5 11-04-2005, 09:10 PM

Since you mentioned Dr Balaji, What he is concerned about is that anal sex lead to HIV/AIDS. ( Homosexual act always involved anal.)

Condom is not designed for anal sex..

nickwch · #6 11-04-2005, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Smeagol

Anyway.... these are just some of my boh liao random thoughts...... feel free to comment and flame lah :P

Hi all...I have learnt something after kana herpes. Forget abt. assessing risk. Once kana..0.00001 % also becomes 100%...juz my two cents worth of experience..

Smeagol · #7 12-04-2005, 02:38 AM

I also once kennak some bacterial infection after BBBJ. My dick was like on fire. Luckily it's curable. Therefore i resolve not to do the followings ever again

Raw penetration (never really done that before except twice condom pii chiak)

BBBJ

Ass rimming

Cunnilingus (however you spell that lah)

Frenching

Signz...... without the above.... commercial sex no fun liao... might as well don't bonk.....

sadfa · #8 12-04-2005, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Smeagol

Raw penetration (never really done that before except twice condom pii chiak)

BBBJ

Ass rimming

Cunnilingus (however you spell that lah)

Frenching

raw n bbbj sure kenna std, but ass rim n cunninlingus n frenching kenna std? frenching can meh?

KKHHLOVE · #9 12-04-2005, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sadfa

raw n bbbj sure kenna std, but ass rim n cunninlingus n frenching kenna std? frenching can meh?

All the std viruses and bateria survive in semen, cunt juice, blood, saliva and all types of bodily secretions. So, any of the above is going to give you std if the other party performing it has std !

Smeagol · #10 13-04-2005, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sadfa

raw n bbbj sure kenna std, but ass rim n cunninlingus n frenching kenna std? frenching can meh?

raw and bbbj may kennak lah!!!... where got sure kennak. If sure kennak all the Geylang legals will finish liao

frenching may give you oral herpes, hep-B
ass rim and cunniligus (still cannot spell) lah which involve exhange of bodily fluids may also let you kennak syphillis, hep-b

2 cents

sadfa · #11 13-04-2005, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Smeagol

frenching may give you oral herpes, hep-B
ass rim and cunniligus (still cannot spell) lah which involve exhange of bodily fluids may also let you kennak syphillis, hep-b

2 cents

std virus can survive in saliva, but not hiv virus right?

sammyboyfor · #12 13-04-2005, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sadfa

std virus can survive in saliva, but not hiv virus right?

HIV is an STD.

tittyhawk · #13 13-04-2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

HIV is an STD.

Bottomline, engage in protected sex with strangers will minimize your risk but certain activities such as bbbj, bj w/o cd, AR, pussy licking and even frenching will land u a STD of some sort.