Should i help her????

waiwaiz · #1 22-10-2008, 05:32 PM

Hi all,

Recently i get to know a malaysian gal. Shes in need of money and wanted me to help promote her in this forum. I'm not sure if I should do that.....Its like pushing her into the fire.....A journey of no return.....

Shes presently attached and staying with her boyfriend. But she told me she really need the money.......

I'm not a OKT and has no intention of becoming one. But if i help her, i feel that i'm like one (no pun intended)......

What should i do?........

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tokiedayuji · #2 22-10-2008, 05:40 PM

i think u better ask her outcome why she need money...is for her self,her family or her bf.....

waiwaiz · #3 22-10-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tokiedayuji

i think u better ask her outcome why she need money...is for her self,her family or her bf.....

She told me the reason........its more for her family, not for bf..... Will be meeting her tonite....i'm not sure wat i'm gonna tell her o????

colins · #4 22-10-2008, 08:09 PM

If your reason is simply that you've written, there is no pressure in speaking your mind in front of her. Dun force yourself lo.

waiwaiz · #5 22-10-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by colins

If your reason is simply that you've written, there is no pressure in speaking your mind in front of her. Dun force yourself lo.

Yo bro collins.......being seeing u helping ppl around here. Nice of u to give some advise.......thks

She told me the reason why she need the money. Asking me to loan her is out of the question. Thats why she come up with the idea of free lancing, for short period. But you know, I know, that once your're in this trade, not many can turn back and totally wash hand off this......
Actually i'll let her decided on her own..i'm just giving her advise on the pros and cons......

Theres not much we can do also..........

. I'll update you guys to see how things goes.........

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OldCat · #6 22-10-2008, 09:02 PM

I don't think you are pushing her into fire. 1st of all, you gain nothing by helping her. If you think she is mature enough and have a strong reason to do so.... help her. I beleive people should do ANYTHING to survive, I don't beleive in sit there and hope someone to save you. God save those who save themselves.... If you think this gurl is dirty, then why those so call clean morons give birth to 5 or 6 kids? How do these kids come out?

colins · #7 22-10-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by waiwaiz

She told me the reason why she need the money. Asking me to loan her is out of the question. Thats why she come up with the idea of free lancing, for short period. But you know, I know, that once your're in this trade, not many can turn back and totally wash hand off this......
Actually i'll let her decided on her own..i'm just giving her advise on the pros and cons......

Frankly, the source of the problem is with her, you do not have control over the outcome or the source. This gives you a lose-lose proposition (i.e. help cannot dun help also cannot). Either way, this is why you are troubled now.

You must recognise the fact that her problem shouldn't be unloaded onto your lap. If you accept her problem, you will feel responsible over an outcome that you have no control over. Isn't that silly? It's never your fault in the first place but yet whatever she does will cause sadness and guilt to you. This is one straight road to unhappiness. And in that, once you see issue objectively, you've let yourself down the moment you accepted her problem as your responsibility.

DO_YOU_BJ · #8 22-10-2008, 10:12 PM

Tell her, in life there's no such thing as quick fix.
The faster its fixed, the more residual stuff it'll leave behind thus from 1 prob will grow into many others and once this happens, turning back the clock to before the initial stage is very very difficult near impossible. Not impossible but near impossible.
Ultimately, the choice is hers.
To me, if i were you, i'll go all out to ask her to face the music no matter comes wat may and i'll be there as your friend to support and guide u thru all the way.
But if she decides to really go FL, i wish her all the best and tell her to only look me up after she decides to quit it...someday....somehow....though we all know, near impossible again.
Good luck dude.

Xgenre · #9 22-10-2008, 11:58 PM

By the way, is she the girl in your Avatar? Quite hot leh.

I think there are 2 separate issues here. Firstly, if she needs money for the family, telling her not to be a FL doesn't solve the need for money. How much money does she need? Is there any way else to raise this money? If you wish to help her, think along this line where she doesn't need to be a FL.

2ndly, the fl issue and your internal struggle to discourage her to be a FL. why did she tell you she's open to being a FL? Normally, i feel it takes a lot for a girl to suggest being a FL herself. Unless she has been a FL before. cos most of the time, the idea of being a FL is thrown at her by someone else. Why did she choose to tell you? Did you and her have any sexual stuff going on previously? She is an adult, if she decides to be a FL, it's very hard for you to stop her. These days, girls know what they want. Even if it's to be a FL.

Let me know how much she needs and by when. I'll try to think of how she can raise this money. Is she working? If so, as what and how much does she earn? Let's see if she qualify for a legal loan from Ezycash or something... Got any insurance policy to surrender and get cash or not?

FL Lover · #10 23-10-2008, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by waiwaiz

Hi all,

Recently i get to know a malaysian gal. Shes in need of money and wanted me to help promote her in this forum. I'm not sure if I should do that.....Its like pushing her into the fire.....A journey of no return.....

Shes presently attached and staying with her boyfriend. But she told me she really need the money.......

I'm not a OKT and has no intention of becoming one. But if i help her, i feel that i'm like one (no pun intended)......

What should i do?........

.

Bro, check with her if she had really mentally decided to do FLs... Let her know the pros and cons of being a FL.... then let her decide...

If she decided to go for FL.. then good loh.. U can get FIRST BLOOD and remb hor... to do A FR on SBF....

kefuso · #11 23-10-2008, 06:45 PM

TS, if she really needs money for her family, what would happen in the future if they learnt that she contributed financially by working as FL??? Would it resulted in a bigger problem for her and her family??? A lot of conservative parents, especially the father would disown her, citing that she brings disgrace to her family...some would even say that they would rather die because of whatever problem than to let their daughter I'm this flesh trading business...Im the end, she might lose out even more due to her love for her family...on the other hand, did she spare a thought for her bf? These are some issues she really need to consider before she decided to jump into the wagon of working in the oldest trade in history...

waiwaiz · #12 23-10-2008, 07:18 PM

Bro colins

This gives you a lose-lose proposition (i.e. help cannot dun help also cannot). Either way, this is why you are troubled now.

Is true. I'm in a no win situation. Is just like a friend who wana rob the bank......instead of talking him out of it. I actually help him in getting guns.........

bro DO_YOU_BJ

The faster its fixed, the more residual stuff it'll leave behind thus from 1 prob will grow into many others and once this happens, turning back the clock to before the initial stage is very very difficult near impossible. Not impossible but near impossible.

I told her about the situation. But i guess at this stage...shes only thinking of how to get the money, not thinking too far. ( From what i see when i talk to her).

Bro Xgenre

By the way, is she the girl in your Avatar?

No la. Not her la.........haha

Don't think she can get any loan due to her low income.

Normally, i feel it takes a lot for a girl to suggest being a FL herself. Unless she has been a FL before. cos most of the time, the idea of being a FL is thrown at her by someone else. Why did she choose to tell you? Did you and her have any sexual stuff going on previously? She is an adult, if she decides to be a FL, it's very hard for you to stop her.

What you say ,I did ask her.....why FL? She told me a few of her friends in Malaysia works in KTV as hostress. I figure that shes bought up in this kind of complicated enviroment. She probably see only the glamorous side of hostress or FL. Doesn't even know the dark side of things. Her mindset is like......no money....work this kind of job lor....make enough then stop lor.....Very simple minded thinking...

bro FL Lover

Bro, check with her if she had really mentally decided to do FLs.

I'm not sure if shes mentally prepare for things as she never in this trade before.

If she decided to go for FL.. then good loh.. U can get FIRST BLOOD and remb hor... to do A FR on SBF....

haha.......I'm no saint also.....If she will to really decided to FL..........probably her 1st 2/2 will be mine....haha

DO_YOU_BJ · #13 23-10-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by waiwaiz

What you say ,I did ask her.....why FL? She told me a few of her friends in Malaysia works in KTV as hostress. I figure that shes bought up in this kind of complicated enviroment. She probably see only the glamorous side of hostress or FL. Doesn't even know the dark side of things. Her mindset is like......no money....work this kind of job lor....make enough then stop lor.....Very simple minded thinking...

That's your cue!
Birds of a feather flock together.
I think i have come to my conclusion and judgment.

waiwaiz · #14 23-10-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kefuso

TS, if she really needs money for her family, what would happen in the future if they learnt that she contributed financially by working as FL??? Would it resulted in a bigger problem for her and her family??? A lot of conservative parents, especially the father would disown her, citing that she brings disgrace to her family...some would even say that they would rather die because of whatever problem than to let their daughter I'm this flesh trading business...Im the end, she might lose out even more due to her love for her family...on the other hand, did she spare a thought for her bf? These are some issues she really need to consider before she decided to jump into the wagon of working in the oldest trade in history...

What u say its true.........Thats why i'm at a loss whether to help her or not. Will i get myself into trouble? I did have a long talk with her yest........She listen, then she just ask me...."If not where to get money? You lend me ar?" But her only worry is that her bf find out coz they are staying together. ......STRESSSSSSSSSS..........

waiwaiz · #15 23-10-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

That's your cue!
Birds of a feather flock together.
I think i have come to my conclusion and judgment.

So bro.........what your conclusion and judgment on this?

I think no matter what i say, she already know and have thought about it.......Shes all set to FL.Only things is she just need someone to give a push start...........