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Old 30-09-2026, 01:09 AM
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Thanks for sharing your story bro, it's nice to see more bros coming forward to share their experiences.

In your case, at least she speaks the same language as you so I guess it's a deeper/more meaningful relationship beyond just the physical (although I guess we all share something common here which is that the sex is damn good lol). But I guess that's why you guys could last for a few years? Just curious, were you single or married this whole time?

Btw I guess you must be young at that time, now I think I'm quite happy with 1x per night if it's a really good, long satisfying session, I can pump for an hour or so, and then she would start asking me why I haven't cum yet haha. Somehow I think maybe 20-30 mins is the sweet spot for most girls for a single session? Don't know. I wanted to cum sooner if I could but sometimes just couldn't.

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Was a good read, and relatable. Mine was in China and I go there really frequently, she was mid-twenties (totally my type of looks) having a stable job and doing freelance companionship when I first met her. And it lasted for a few years until last year. This year she just turned 30.

The sex started actually only after a year knowing her, and about 6 months later it we did it raw and never looked back. Best sex of my life, we were doing it like 3-4 times every night when we spent the whole night together and like what bro Penguin said, these are the times you look back and felt that you have lived it. I never CIP her, didn't want to risk it. Ironically on one of our last few fucks, she actually requested I wear a CD and of course I shot inside, but it broke. She was so worried and kept saying like "Don't you know it broke when you were doing it?" like how would I know in the moment. And she rushed to get a morning after pill.

Anyways it went downhill from there, met and did a few times raw and the sex was good but the feeling kinda didn't felt the same anymore... I guess for both parties. A few occasions when I asked her out and she couldn't make time so I assumed she have a life and moved on and didn't meet henceforth. Honestly happy for her so nowadays we only text on special occasions like birthdays or major holidays.

I have regressed in the area of sexual activity quite a lot as I am by nature not a person who have a high sex drive and I do find it a bit hard to move on from her as it is almost impossible to find someone who can give me that kind of quality of sex. Not that I have given up but I have been sparingly trying to venture with different girls but so far not much joy. well.... it is what it is
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Just do a search on YouTube of all the farang getting scammed by Isan girls. You erect cock will quickly turn soft, trust me!

Haha I have watched and read a lot of them for entertainment purposes!
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Re: Thai "holiday gf"? Anyone had something like this before?

Over time, women tend to use the frequency of sex as a validation of how much you love her. Yeah, 20-30mins seems to be the sweet spot for my current girl too. We started out with very very basic english communications only, her most frequent phrase being "Ok darling".

I was quite mischievous so I used that advantage to press for a lot more things that what I think she would have agreed to, haha.

Nowadays, she will always signal that she is ready for sex, by taking a shower and being naked underneath the sheets. This is what I really love about her. The longer the relationship, the more she seems to enjoy sex. This is the reason why, I have lost interest in commercial sex
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Re: Thai "holiday gf"? Anyone had something like this before?

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Thanks for sharing your story bro, it's nice to see more bros coming forward to share their experiences.

In your case, at least she speaks the same language as you so I guess it's a deeper/more meaningful relationship beyond just the physical (although I guess we all share something common here which is that the sex is damn good lol). But I guess that's why you guys could last for a few years? Just curious, were you single or married this whole time?

Btw I guess you must be young at that time, now I think I'm quite happy with 1x per night if it's a really good, long satisfying session, I can pump for an hour or so, and then she would start asking me why I haven't cum yet haha. Somehow I think maybe 20-30 mins is the sweet spot for most girls for a single session? Don't know. I wanted to cum sooner if I could but sometimes just couldn't.
I was about 30+ then, attached in a pretty sexless open relationship and still am. Honestly most of the time when I had 3+ rounds in one night, one of those rounds ended up with me not cumming. But what I like about her is she genuinely enjoys it and never asks me why have I not cummed. 20-30mins is also about the average duration per round for me. Sometimes longer and sometimes shorter but these days most sessions end with me not cumming maybe is because I am the kind who prefer to bonk non-commercial as well and having experienced all the way with this one and couldn’t get over it.
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Haha many times in the past (and occasionally these days) we start to french right after we enter the room, or we could start drinking something on the sofa and then start to make out etc.
But yeah nowadays she seems to prefer to shower first and then she gets naked under the sheets too, then that's when the action starts. She sleeps completely nude too, but I'm not used to it and at least need an underwear haha.
But I do get the feeling that perhaps she doesn't want sex every day when we're together, whereas I have the urge to - cos she would tell me in a joking manner "no boom boom" sometimes (though it always ends the same way after I "seduce" her haha). Maybe I should try to "listen to her wishes" one of the nights, to see how she acts or she would initiate.


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Over time, women tend to use the frequency of sex as a validation of how much you love her. Yeah, 20-30mins seems to be the sweet spot for my current girl too. We started out with very very basic english communications only, her most frequent phrase being "Ok darling".

I was quite mischievous so I used that advantage to press for a lot more things that what I think she would have agreed to, haha.

Nowadays, she will always signal that she is ready for sex, by taking a shower and being naked underneath the sheets. This is what I really love about her. The longer the relationship, the more she seems to enjoy sex. This is the reason why, I have lost interest in commercial sex
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I'm still discovering her I guess. She is super accommodating though. Once in a long while, even if I go soft, she would try her hardest to get me hard again, and I really appreciate that. To be very frank, the sex we had since I was just a customer in the F shop was largely similar to what we are having now, and she was equally accommodating, just that our sex now is more... "loving", with no time pressure and we could take our time to try different positions?

I'm not sure if it's a good problem or a bad problem, but if it's my 2nd night onwards, I can literally go on almost forever without cumming. So I get worried that she might get tired, and I do tell her I'm sorry for not cumming yet, and she always tells me it's ok. Then she would help stimulate me in various ways until I get close, before I pump her really hard and cum into her. I think the longest I went for was like 1.5 hrs until I almost had friction burns man, at some point it loses the fun if it goes on for too long.

Talking about commercial sex, I agree it somehow does not feel as good as having sex with someone that you are very comfortable with, and you can look deeply into their eyes while you pump, and you know they are enjoying every stroke just as you do.

Nowadays, the only thrill I get from commercial sex is when I manage to make the girl enjoy the sex more than she feels that she should, haha, and it's even better if it's a massage girl who does not usually do FJ. It's cheap thrill but seeing the girl moan uncontrollably and getting very wet, really gets me high. But yeah, it's a cheap thrill and nowhere near as satisfying as the romantic kind of sex.

And I realize that these days, those very transactional/mechanical kind of sex really turns me off a lot. The worst ones so far are some of those F shops in Korea, the girls are pretty (heavily zhnged) but very mechanical, minimal GFE and they don't even allow you to touch their hair. It's hard to even stay hard haha.

But yeah I understand where you guys are coming from. For commercial sex, it's sometimes hit or miss (especially once you start to prefer the type of sex with "feeling"), and when you get a bad one, it can be quite a shitty experience.

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I was about 30+ then, attached in a pretty sexless open relationship and still am. Honestly most of the time when I had 3+ rounds in one night, one of those rounds ended up with me not cumming. But what I like about her is she genuinely enjoys it and never asks me why have I not cummed. 20-30mins is also about the average duration per round for me. Sometimes longer and sometimes shorter but these days most sessions end with me not cumming maybe is because I am the kind who prefer to bonk non-commercial as well and having experienced all the way with this one and couldn’t get over it.
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Re: Thai "holiday gf"? Anyone had something like this before?

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Haha many times in the past (and occasionally these days) we start to french right after we enter the room, or we could start drinking something on the sofa and then start to make out etc.
But yeah nowadays she seems to prefer to shower first and then she gets naked under the sheets too, then that's when the action starts. She sleeps completely nude too, but I'm not used to it and at least need an underwear haha.
But I do get the feeling that perhaps she doesn't want sex every day when we're together, whereas I have the urge to - cos she would tell me in a joking manner "no boom boom" sometimes (though it always ends the same way after I "seduce" her haha). Maybe I should try to "listen to her wishes" one of the nights, to see how she acts or she would initiate.
The older I become, the more I actually appreciate this kind of "loving sex". I call this kind of sex "husband service", where she would do virtually anything that pleases me and would be very very receptive to what I want. My girl likes it when I communicate to her how to do a proper HJ, which parts of my cock is especially sensitive and where I want her tongue to be when she gives me BBBJ.

I think this is part and parcel of a couple enjoying sex with each other, and it really bonds two people. On your situation, I can kind of understand - ladies somehow get the idea that their "down there" is naturally dirty so they want to be as clean as possible before sex, especially if you love to go down on her. I have to sometimes initiate sex with her on purpose when she is a bit sweaty, to let her know that I actually like her natural body smell and I do not need her to be sparkling clean before sex. I think deep down she fears that I will be turned off by a smelly CB and not love her anymore, hahaha.

On the frequency of sex - I have a very high sex drive, and I had to learn her preference on when she is most likely to agree to sex. Like most guys I am naturally horny when I wake up, or after alcohol but my girl isn't like that. She hates morning sex, gets sleepy after drinking but she is naturally receptive to sex before bedtime and right after we eat together. She likes to lie in bed right after every meal, and after I've done the dishes and cleaned up all I need to do is come to bed with a clean dick and usually action starts soon after. It took me a while to understand that she usually doesn't want spontaneous sex but if I ask for it beforehand she will do her best to accommodate, and even get ready (and get horny) for it. So that's how I get more than one session of boom-boom nowadays, and I really like it.
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Re: Thai "holiday gf"? Anyone had something like this before?

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Was a good read, and relatable. Mine was in China and I go there really frequently, she was mid-twenties (totally my type of looks) having a stable job and doing freelance companionship when I first met her. And it lasted for a few years until last year. This year she just turned 30.

The sex started actually only after a year knowing her, and about 6 months later it we did it raw and never looked back. Best sex of my life, we were doing it like 3-4 times every night when we spent the whole night together and like what bro Penguin said, these are the times you look back and felt that you have lived it. I never CIP her, didn't want to risk it. Ironically on one of our last few fucks, she actually requested I wear a CD and of course I shot inside, but it broke. She was so worried and kept saying like "Don't you know it broke when you were doing it?" like how would I know in the moment. And she rushed to get a morning after pill.

Anyways it went downhill from there, met and did a few times raw and the sex was good but the feeling kinda didn't felt the same anymore... I guess for both parties. A few occasions when I asked her out and she couldn't make time so I assumed she have a life and moved on and didn't meet henceforth. Honestly happy for her so nowadays we only text on special occasions like birthdays or major holidays.

I have regressed in the area of sexual activity quite a lot as I am by nature not a person who have a high sex drive and I do find it a bit hard to move on from her as it is almost impossible to find someone who can give me that kind of quality of sex. Not that I have given up but I have been sparingly trying to venture with different girls but so far not much joy. well.... it is what it is
Great share bro! sometimes when u look back at these crazy memories, you're glad u lived it!

sometimes really YOLO, just wack and have fun ! but RAW CIP is really one of the best feelings ever, esp when you see the girl furiously riding you and ready for your cum inside her
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The older I become, the more I actually appreciate this kind of "loving sex". I call this kind of sex "husband service", where she would do virtually anything that pleases me and would be very very receptive to what I want. My girl likes it when I communicate to her how to do a proper HJ, which parts of my cock is especially sensitive and where I want her tongue to be when she gives me BBBJ.

I think this is part and parcel of a couple enjoying sex with each other, and it really bonds two people. On your situation, I can kind of understand - ladies somehow get the idea that their "down there" is naturally dirty so they want to be as clean as possible before sex, especially if you love to go down on her. I have to sometimes initiate sex with her on purpose when she is a bit sweaty, to let her know that I actually like her natural body smell and I do not need her to be sparkling clean before sex. I think deep down she fears that I will be turned off by a smelly CB and not love her anymore, hahaha.

On the frequency of sex - I have a very high sex drive, and I had to learn her preference on when she is most likely to agree to sex. Like most guys I am naturally horny when I wake up, or after alcohol but my girl isn't like that. She hates morning sex, gets sleepy after drinking but she is naturally receptive to sex before bedtime and right after we eat together. She likes to lie in bed right after every meal, and after I've done the dishes and cleaned up all I need to do is come to bed with a clean dick and usually action starts soon after. It took me a while to understand that she usually doesn't want spontaneous sex but if I ask for it beforehand she will do her best to accommodate, and even get ready (and get horny) for it. So that's how I get more than one session of boom-boom nowadays, and I really like it.
Really glad you have one of those relationship that both are open to each other's needs, and observant to the other party's preferences. As we get older, we get more particular with the things we like in bed and what keeps us turned on. Took me some time to realize I am a lady-pleaser.. the more turned on the lady, the harder I get, so finding a genuine sex partner I'll keep returning to is difficult.
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100% agree bro. This kind of sex feels totally different from commercial sex (even the best ones), when you cum into her, you get that kind of highly satisfying/fulfilling feeling that you just can't get from commercial sex, and you can see that she is also very satisfied (I particularly love it when she hugs me tight when I'm cumming - as if she really wants me to fill her up). And when I have some "difficulty", she knows exactly what buttons to press to get me back into the game.

To be very frank, I had that with my wife in the past but that has unfortunately been lost already. "Husband service" is quite an apt term. I suspect maybe some of us longed for that feeling with our wives that we could no longer get, so we're looking for it with other girls (at least that's the case for me).

And yeah I love to go down on her Y, she has no smell at all and I get super turned on when I feel her quivering as I hit the right spots. In a way I'm like the other bro, I get very hard and excited when I see my girl so turned on and enjoying herself. For my girl, it seems she is ready for sex right after shower too. One thing is that my girl can't really drink, but when she's in my room, we'll hit a few bottles of Spy, or a bottle of soju + beer, and she becomes that much more crazy during sex. Really fun stuff.

It looks like many bros here have similar experiences, please keep it coming!

I suppose quite a number of bros here are also leading double lives. How do you feel about that, and how do you manage it psychologically?

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The older I become, the more I actually appreciate this kind of "loving sex". I call this kind of sex "husband service", where she would do virtually anything that pleases me and would be very very receptive to what I want. My girl likes it when I communicate to her how to do a proper HJ, which parts of my cock is especially sensitive and where I want her tongue to be when she gives me BBBJ.

I think this is part and parcel of a couple enjoying sex with each other, and it really bonds two people. On your situation, I can kind of understand - ladies somehow get the idea that their "down there" is naturally dirty so they want to be as clean as possible before sex, especially if you love to go down on her. I have to sometimes initiate sex with her on purpose when she is a bit sweaty, to let her know that I actually like her natural body smell and I do not need her to be sparkling clean before sex. I think deep down she fears that I will be turned off by a smelly CB and not love her anymore, hahaha.

On the frequency of sex - I have a very high sex drive, and I had to learn her preference on when she is most likely to agree to sex. Like most guys I am naturally horny when I wake up, or after alcohol but my girl isn't like that. She hates morning sex, gets sleepy after drinking but she is naturally receptive to sex before bedtime and right after we eat together. She likes to lie in bed right after every meal, and after I've done the dishes and cleaned up all I need to do is come to bed with a clean dick and usually action starts soon after. It took me a while to understand that she usually doesn't want spontaneous sex but if I ask for it beforehand she will do her best to accommodate, and even get ready (and get horny) for it. So that's how I get more than one session of boom-boom nowadays, and I really like it.
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I suppose quite a number of bros here are also leading double lives. How do you feel about that, and how do you manage it psychologically?
I never felt comfortable, when I was leading a double life. I could probably face the consequences with the wife, but it is my greatest fear that my daughter will end up hating me, if I was ever caught fooling around. Thankfully, I was never caught.

I am lucky, that as a divorcee I no longer needed to live a double life. My daughter knows who my gf is, but I have repeatedly told her that she will never have a stepmother and I will never bring my gf into my family life. Children should know only one set of parents - these modern talk about blended family is, in my opinion, asking for unnecessary trouble.

My kids will be independent in a few years and when that happens and they no longer need me around, I will spend more time with my gf and hopefully we will get married one day.
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Re: Thai "holiday gf"? Anyone had something like this before?

Wow I didn’t know there are ppl having such similar lifestyle as me. I also travel frequently for work. At least once a month. But tried to avoid meeting the same girl too often. As I am married with kid also. I don’t want situation to disrupt my life in Singapore.
But I totally understand the dilemma, seems like there are a lot of Singaporean men leading a double life and not really happy in their SG marriage. Sometimes I do think it might be better if my wife make a fuss of our life and divorce me instead.
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I agree with you - blended family sounds like a recipe for trouble and invites a lot more questions. Sounds like you have it all planned out. Unfortunately my kid is still a long, long way from being independent.


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I never felt comfortable, when I was leading a double life. I could probably face the consequences with the wife, but it is my greatest fear that my daughter will end up hating me, if I was ever caught fooling around. Thankfully, I was never caught.

I am lucky, that as a divorcee I no longer needed to live a double life. My daughter knows who my gf is, but I have repeatedly told her that she will never have a stepmother and I will never bring my gf into my family life. Children should know only one set of parents - these modern talk about blended family is, in my opinion, asking for unnecessary trouble.

My kids will be independent in a few years and when that happens and they no longer need me around, I will spend more time with my gf and hopefully we will get married one day.
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Yeah I suspect a lot are leading double lives.
Whether it's because of an unhappy marriage, or seeking thrills, or not getting the type of sex that we need from our wives.
I suppose there are some things that we will need to take to our graves.

You sound like you have more than a regular girl or regular country? I don't know but just 1 or 2 girls is already plenty hehe. What's your story with them, if you don't mind sharing?


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Wow I didn’t know there are ppl having such similar lifestyle as me. I also travel frequently for work. At least once a month. But tried to avoid meeting the same girl too often. As I am married with kid also. I don’t want situation to disrupt my life in Singapore.
But I totally understand the dilemma, seems like there are a lot of Singaporean men leading a double life and not really happy in their SG marriage. Sometimes I do think it might be better if my wife make a fuss of our life and divorce me instead.
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Re: Thai "holiday gf"? Anyone had something like this before?

sometimes can kena gongtao but still not aware so must be careful
those got kid alr but still close to you.. eventually will ask for $ to help this and that.. then slowly borrow for family problem etc.. long term strategy one lah
they all got their network of girls friends to teach them guide them slowly what to do.. if you want proper holiday gf just find those no kid but work office job then got basic eng speaking but still reply message. just be mentally prepared that she has lots of bf and fuck buddies.. this kind if you not in thailand to commit, very hard to maintain.. so must be mentally prep
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