Love or KC

[LuisitoAngel]

Originally Posted by LauAdi

That’s a good ending, congrats to her
Some former angpais told me gross is 5 digit but net is 4 digit
And they rejected some rich (and old) bros offering to bao them
Rather go back home rent apartment eat porridge haha
Next thing go on holiday and asking should come back to work or not
Wish them luck

funny thing: Anyone know of KTV mommy stories? i have a regular KTV mommy, single mom.. but very fun and helpful. replies fast when i have last minute guest! funny thing was, i once showed her a vietbu on tiktok, said i like this kind, she took down the user ID and said she will try to get her down to sg to work! now that's commitment!
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[AngelFirst]

Originally Posted by Sian1234567

They are here to make money…if not they won’t be here. There’s a reason why many rtc and come back again on the same trade as the money is too good by selling themselves. Even if you are rich enough can you bury her past that she has multiple clients texting them, or even chatting with them…never give up what you have now for a moment of lust

Damn right bro. Fast easy cash is addictive

[LauAdi]

Originally Posted by LuisitoAngel

funny thing: Anyone know of KTV mommy stories? i have a regular KTV mommy, super funny, turns out to be single mom, but she works dam hard.

another one, also single mom, but she hotter than the ktv girls under her.. and the GFE that mommy has, honestly i was gong taoed by her for at least a few months and went back KTV just to see the mommy. guess the smart girls know where their strength lies in.

Just like ginza mama-san
Know the need, know your appeal, focus
But ginza mama-san got business networks too added benefit

[Penguin23]

Originally Posted by HBK1234

Thanks for the feedback guys, this kind of rs problem really sucks, especially if you dont whether its a true feeling or just some expertly disguised KC.

Updates from previous entry:

-i dont buy any thing branded for her. But i have gotten a few food for her during lunch (grab)
-she claims she dont provide fj, even with me she said she wants to wait until marriage.
-she is thinking of retiring, and gg back vietnam. She says she wants to try LDR
-we are planning a trip, i'm expected to take care of the hotel and other expenses. But she takes care of her own plane ticket.

I know viet culture more traditional i.e. expects guys to pay rather than AA like many SG girls.

I feel like i'm being friendzoned by her

TS hasn't posted in a while, and I'm a bit late to this thread but I hope this old chiongster's words will be somewhat useful.

I was in your situation before, met a 19yo KTV girl and today, 8 years later we are still together. The current relationship status is LDR, but she makes it a point that we meet once per month at least. Earlier this month she stayed here in a hotel for 6 nights, usually I fly over to her apartment in Saigon for 3-4 nights.

We have had our own share of ups and downs as a couple, we started off in a purely transactional relationship - back then the ST/LT rate was 300/500. Eventually this became an SD/SB arrangement and now 8 years later I am pretty certain it is pretty much a gf/bf arrangement. You know it by the kind of sex she gives you, "customer sex" is nice, sometimes mind-blowing but ultimately devoid of emotion. Sex with emotions is heartwarming, you know sometimes she is super tired but just wants you happy, so she makes you cum hard inside her and smiles when you finish and kisses you all over. That kind of sex, money cannot buy.

I supported my gf through Covid as she worked the KTV scene, she eventually got sick of nightlife and transitioned back to a normal life. I agreed a modest budget for her VN apartment rental, her Grab expenses and a small sum for her shopping needs, while she pursues pretty much a "normal" life as an office girl.

Most of her peers have either gotten pregnant/married and moved away, some have transitioned to Mummy/Pimp roles and a couple went to the dark side and started helping their partners deal drugs/K-pods/illegal gambling. The myriad examples of where a nightlife girl can end up is truly mind-boggling, I just count myself lucky to have chosen a girl who is ultimately a "good girl" inside and most importantly, has learnt to trust me with her future.

So my point of commenting is that - if you don't try you never know.

Working girls are all ultimately human, with real emotional needs. Not all are out to cheat, but all are out for a helping hand. You can be the right person, but come into her life at the wrong time. Whether you choose to stick through it all, or play the field in the meantime and chalk up your body count, all up to you.

I have been played by quite a few MLs/FLs/KTV girls before, bought too many handbags, too many iPhones and a couple of modest houses but in the end I count myself lucky to end up with one who is genuine.

As an aside, her long time bestie is a KTV mummy still active in Singapore, whom I speak to near every day. I help her with some aspects of daily life, that a foreigner single mum is usually not good at (e.g translating in simple terms, what the recent NDR goodies mean for her). The KTV mummy is earning good money, doesn't need to sell sex to make a living and is now purely in "KTV management" - scheduling her asst mummy and girls through the couple of KTVs that she manages and earning good money just from bottle comms. Years ago, this KTV mummy was the one who intro me to my gf, we remain good friends till today.

There one thing that is an absolute pre-requisite. You must maintain or increase your earning power through time. Do not overspend, they will not forgive you or "understand" for it. Learn to say NO - they respect a man who can draw boundaries, and above all - if you choose to play the long game, like I did, time will ultimately be on our side.

[Jasoncobain]

this is a great share. i know 2 ktv mommies who are single moms too. one of them was sharing her difficulty about teaching her kid P3 maths and i taught her how to use chatgpt to help with this ( all this while in the room)

there was another ktv mommy, super sweet and the first mommy whom i felt was hotter than her own girls. also single mom.

anyway, on your side bro, WL/FLs are humans too, you are right. this ' journey' is something a man needs to experience himself and handle his emotions, whether to get gongtao or to stay in control and enjoy the journey.

i had my heart ripped apart too many times by fls. now i just keep it professional. free sex is always the most expensive.

[LuisitoAngel]

Originally Posted by LauAdi

Just like ginza mama-san
Know the need, know your appeal, focus
But ginza mama-san got business networks too added benefit

They are literally biz development experts!